Dental Insurance ?
I have recently lost my dental insurance from my employer, as I am now retired ! My current Medicare supplemental insurance only provides basic dental services, and I need coverage beyond cleanings and xrays.
Can any Forum members suggest some recommendations for 'dental only' insurance. Thanks! |
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The two carriers that I (my company) have had is Delta and Ameritas. I lean slightly towards Ameritas as being slightly better.
I agree with Joey, that unless you are getting it at a reduced rate through your employer or similar or you have severe dental issues, your probably better off paying out of pocket. Dan |
I went to this website.... dentalplans.com as my company does not offer dental insurance.
For $125/yr I basically purchased the rate Cigna pays the dentist. For example, instead of a private pay root canal @ $1200, the cost was $800. They offer a few different plans. Woodsy |
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Dental Insurance ?
Until my early teen years I thought everyone’s parents took their teeth out and placed them in a glass of water before bed. Mother, father, grandmother....
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With the exception of my confusion, this would seem quite decent |
Agree with those who feel it is usually just not worth it. My wife has had a plan with work and after for many years. Even with clearly covered items, such as x2 cleaning a year, it is a pain to get them to pay. Another time, simple tooth filling, they wanted a photo...an X-ray showing the cavity and the dentists notes were not enough.
I guess there are better plans... but my feeling about insurance is if you can pay for it and/or take the loss you are better off in most cases. |
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“Get 100% coverage for preventive dental care such as exams, cleanings and x-rays. $50 Annual Deductible $1,000 Annual Maximum” So if you have a dental procedure that cost $1000.00 and assuming most plans pay around 50% of that cost so $500.00 would be deducted from the annual maximum payable benefit. Preventive care, (cleaning / X-Rays) are covered 100%. Dan |
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All kidding aside, but "implants" are now the way to go (or so I have heard). I have no idea what costs are involved with this, or even if it's an option which is even covered by any dental insurance. Additionally, I have been told that TUFTS DENTAL SCHOOL in Boston will do Dental work for a fraction of the going rate. Keep in mind that these are Dental students working under supervision of Licensed Dentists, so I guess it can be a good deal. . |
Retirement Benefits
When I retired, my company has extended Cobra Plan of all benefits. Because the plans are part of the group, there are reduced rates, however I go to Melcher & Prescott and AARP to shop around. Dental plans are all over the map as far as coverage go. Looking at best value for coverage I find AARP Dental is my best bet.
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Implants are not covered under dental plans. Cost per tooth around 4K.
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Delta Dental
I have Delta Dental. I pay a monthly premium and it covers all preventative care and xrays. For root canals or crowns it covers some of the costs. As mentioned above it depends on which plan you choose. The plan also offers an option for a maximum benefit of $1,000 or $1500.00 annually. Meaning they will not pay more than their maximum coverage. Even my dentist told me that at retirement is is best to self insure, in other words do not pay for coverage. It comes down to a personal choice.
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I have met life. It does cover crowns etc but unless you have something like that it doesnt cover the premium
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I went through this in Mass just a few years ago. Due to almost unbelievable price discrimination, Delta Dental is an absolute must. Missing from the comments against dental insurance is that Delta caps the amount that your dentist can charge BEFORE the issue of coverage amount comes up.
Ask your dentist how much he charges for a cleaning, filing, whatever, to a noninsured patient. Then ask how much Delta allows him to charge a covered patient. It's not 10 or 20% less, it's enough to make your head explode. (Sadly, this is another example of how the struggling often pay more than the well off in our society.) This issue is even highlighted on the Delta website, where you can buy a plan that has zero coverage, but allows you to take advantage of their price caps. It's extortion |
I saved enough to pay for the card +$$$ on my first visit. Paying out $125 per year is not much to get the discounted price the insurance companies pay out.
Way cheaper than self-insuring! Woodsy |
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What about the network? |
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I also highly recommend a Harvard Pilgrim Medicare Advantage plan called Stride Value Rx. It covers most medical procedures, dental and vision benefits, and other perks that add up to make the $40 a month premium worth it. (I mean in addition to Medicare Part A, which is free, and Medicare Part B, which costs $144/month.) The covered dental services for 2020 are: oral exams, cleanings, x-rays, peridontal exam, peridontal cleaning. There is a $35 copay per visit, no deductible, maximum $500 benefit per year. That doesn't cover fillings, etc., which brings me back to my suggestion above: negotiate with your dentist. I once investigated Delta Dental and decided that the benefits were too low to justify the yearly premium. My health insurance agent once told me that a viable option is to put the money you would have paid for insurance into a separate account and use it only when you need it. Just think of the hundreds of thousands of dollars you pay over the course of your lifetime for home, car, and health insurance. I've never filed a single home insurance claim. I've been paid about $4000 in car claims over several decades of buying insurance. Insurance companies make a profit because there is a very good chance that you will pay far more for insurance than you will ever collect on claims. |
So if I retire and have no coverage, I an pay Delya $125 and get big discounys. I get it so far. But I didn't understand all the details of the network questin. Do I have to go to a dentist in their network ?
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The last company I worked for didn’t buy dental coverage for employees. Instead you brought your invoice to the office and the company reimbursed you based on the coverages provided by a good dental plan. The reason: premiums paid by the employer (never mind the employee share) far exceeded the annual amount that was reimbursed or paid out. Think about it, cleaning & check up are about 125, xrays are about 150. Monthly premiums are about 125. You get a cleaning twice a year and xrays once. Who wins there?
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The Harvard Pilgrim Advantage plans do provide coverage as stated but these are structured as HMOs which can be cost saving but before we get away from the dental discussion, this is a way different kettle of fish from regular Medicare.
Just a caution. |
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Your last sentence is exactly the point.
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Here is a good website that explains the difference between Medicare supplement & advantage plan.
https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/med...pplement-plans We ended up going with a BCBS Medicare Advantage Plan that provides medical, dental, vision, prescription coverage & reimburses for up to 100 per year for health club expenses. The premium is $33/mph above the usual Medicare part B premium. Our plan requires that we select providers from a specific list of Drs however, for an additional $90/math premium we could go to anyone we want. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Phone numbers: (207) 370-0143 or (866) 976-9038 Don't be put off by the fact that he's in Maine. In my experience he was very knowledgeable about insurance and healthcare in New Hampshire and Massachusetts. His website says, "I am an independent insurance agent contracted with all the top Medicare health insurance plan companies available in New Hampshire and Maine." That means he has contacts at those companies and can call them directly to straighten out problems for you. He was very generous with his time and in the end I was confident that I had made the best choice. You can read testimonials about him at https://my.setmore.com/bookingpage/3...e031ce/reviews I agree with all of them. ***Coincidentally, Todd has an excellent article on dental plans at his website: https://www.mainemedicareoptions.com/dental/ |
Competent Medicare Advisors
I found Melcher and Prescott in Laconia pretty competent in explaining Medicare options to me. Make suggestions and go forward from there.
You will also find Servicelink is also helpful, not just Medicare, anything in elderly and disability cases. Even Medicaid. Both services are free! I opt for Plan N over advantage as I travel a lot, skiing out West, vacationing in the Caribbean, business trips all over N. America etc. Advantage plans won't cover me outside this area. |
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