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Standbyme 07-16-2019 04:55 PM

Stuck in Back Bay
 
Well still unable to fit under Back Bay bridge in Wolfeboro to access open water. 20’ Key West DC didn’t have a problem last year but this year she hasn’t powered up yet :( I know sucks to be me. I’ll keep hoping but next year moving on. My question is where can I find a reasonable $ boat slip near Wolfeboro without taking a second mortgage. Roberts Cove? Melvin Village? Thanks

Hillcountry 07-16-2019 05:21 PM

You might want to try Parker Marina in Alton. On their CL ads they say they have slips available. I know they have a bridge situation too...not sure what the height limits are though. I have been on a slip waiting list for 3 years and counting but I don’t want to travel farther than the Laconia area from where I live.

fatlazyless 07-16-2019 05:28 PM

Maybe lower the boat in the water. Just like removing air from the tires on a big truck that's a wee bit too tall to pass underneath a highway bridge; maybe removing the bilge drain plug and lowering the boat by six-12" could do it?

WJT2 07-16-2019 06:44 PM

remove windshield and forward rails.

MIKE RGR 07-16-2019 08:27 PM

Stuck also
 
It looked like we might be able to get under BBB by the weekend and then they
lowered the outflow to 245.

Still hovering at 504.27,,,,about 2 inches too high for me

ApS 07-17-2019 01:37 AM

Free Beer?
 
Load the boat to full capacity.

You'll need a crowd.

Maybe free ice cream or free beer will provide incentive?

Descant 07-17-2019 09:37 AM

Add weight?
 
Put three inches of water in the bilge and pump it out when you're under the bridge.

ThePlut 07-17-2019 09:56 AM

Ballast system
 
When I used to keep my boat at Parker Marine, which also has a low bridge issue, my dealer offered the idea of a ballast system, like the wake boats use, to help weigh down the boat to lower it in the water. It would then be pumped out. Because the water fills a container, and has it's own pump, it's safer than just flooding your bilge and just hope the bilge pump works.

It's a thought, and such a system may pay for itself after a couple years of slip rentals. Given the sheer volume of people I see looking for slips these days, I have a feeling prices are only going up for awhile...

camp guy 07-17-2019 10:38 AM

Stuck in Back Bay
 
Forget about a ballast system, stop worrying about the outflow, ignore the 504.??, just do the simple solution - excavate a deeper channel.

burgerunh 07-17-2019 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camp guy (Post 315509)
Forget about a ballast system, stop worrying about the outflow, ignore the 504.??, just do the simple solution - excavate a deeper channel.


Excavating a deeper channel is not going to change the static level of the water in the lake or the clearance under the bridge. It will just make a deeper channel.

fatlazyless 07-17-2019 11:52 AM

Here's another, faster way to get all the water out of the bilge without using the bilge pump. Remove the drain plug, get moving forward, up on plane, and all the bilge water will quickly exit out the open drain in the stern.

The forward movement of the boat creates a reverse reaction on the water in the bilge so it drains out fast.

You could remove the drain plug in Back Bay, exit under the low bridge, and power forward to empty the bilge ..... and re-install drain plug.

ishoot308 07-17-2019 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camp guy (Post 315509)
Forget about a ballast system, stop worrying about the outflow, ignore the 504.??, just do the simple solution - excavate a deeper channel.

Hmmm...interesting math your using there. :eek::eek:

Descant 07-17-2019 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerunh (Post 315515)
Excavating a deeper channel is not going to change the static level of the water in the lake or the clearance under the bridge. It will just make a deeper channel.

Well, Camp Guy, you threw out the hook and caught two so far. ROTF-LMAO.

ApS 07-17-2019 12:43 PM

Lowering Won't Work...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerunh (Post 315515)
Excavating a deeper channel is not going to change the static level of the water in the lake or the clearance under the bridge. It will just make a deeper channel.

Wolfeboro's Back Bay is part of a river.

Excavating (dredging) a deeper channel would speed up the flow, thereby lowering the river; however, this lowering wouldn't be sufficient to solve the clearance issue being discussed. IMHO.

Woodsy 07-17-2019 01:58 PM

Your best long term solution might be to buy a a different boat.... the price of slips is an ever increasing cost....

Woodsy

brk-lnt 07-17-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerunh (Post 315515)
Excavating a deeper channel is not going to change the static level of the water in the lake or the clearance under the bridge. It will just make a deeper channel.

Well technically that would depend on how deep you dig the channel.
Trench down far enough, and you'll lower the collective water level.
Don't have time to do all the math, but I think if you dug a channel 20' wide, by 1000' long and 900' deep, you'd have somewhere around the equivalent of 1 months outflow.

(of course, the dam is what really regulates the water level, so that excavation would have to happen relatively quickly, and then the lake would fill back up).

Maybe a very high powered turbine that sucks the water out of the back bay and pushes it into the rest of the lake?

Or, we could go the other direction on solving this problem and maybe build a trebuchet that launches the boats up and over the bridge?

Y2K 07-17-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 315531)
Well technically that would depend on how deep you dig the channel.
Trench down far enough, and you'll lower the collective water level.
Don't have time to do all the math, but I think if you dug a channel 20' wide, by 1000' long and 900' deep, you'd have somewhere around the equivalent of 1 months outflow.

(of course, the dam is what really regulates the water level, so that excavation would have to happen relatively quickly, and then the lake would fill back up).

Maybe a very high powered turbine that sucks the water out of the back bay and pushes it into the rest of the lake?

Or, we could go the other direction on solving this problem and maybe build a trebuchet that launches the boats up and over the bridge?

I think we are missing the obvious answer here. Rebuild the bridge and road higher!

However, would pay much money to see the boat launching trebuchet. Maybe the money from that can pay for the trench and/or new bridge.... :cool:

ApS 07-18-2019 05:07 AM

"We Need A Smaller Boat"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy (Post 315529)
Your best long term solution might be to buy a a different boat.... the price of slips is an ever increasing cost....
Woodsy

Finally, I can agree with Woodsy. :rolleye2:

Forget catapulting. A short-term "solution" would be to rent a trailer and bypass the bridge.

Give up tubing, stay slipped in Back Bay—change the direction of your boating experience altogether—for the price of a Ford F-150:

https://m.outdoorrevival.com/wp-cont...23-800x600.jpg

More "Affordable" Submarines: https://m.outdoorrevival.com/instant...submarine.html

fatlazyless 07-18-2019 07:00 AM

Don't places like Brussels, Amsterdam, and Paris have some very old bridges crossing their canals that are arched high enough so a boat can pass underneath.

Seems like Wolfeboro maybe could have designed better by having an arch type of a bridge as opposed to a low, flat bridge that's level with the road. Something like that beautiful old Weirs Beach bridge that crosses up and over the railroad tracks to get to Simpson Ave.

tis 07-18-2019 07:09 AM

Can't you just see a high bridge in Wolfeboro? It would look ridiculous in the middle of town but dangerous for traffic and pedestrians.

Phantom 07-18-2019 07:26 AM

It amazes me here in the Forum that we never seem to answer the question asked by the OP ………… instead we reply with silly antidotes about filling his boat with water to lower it, trenching the channel, building a new bridge, etc etc


No one (other than Hillcountry) offered an answer to Standbyme's question ……… He NEVER asked how to get out of Back Bay …… he no doubt has a trailer and has already solved the short term problem


Quote:

Originally Posted by Standbyme (Post 315462)
My question is where can I find a reasonable $ boat slip near Wolfeboro without taking a second mortgage. Roberts Cove? Melvin Village? Thanks


8gv 07-18-2019 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 315569)
Finally, I can agree with Woodsy. :rolleye2:

Forget catapulting. A short-term "solution" would be to rent a trailer and bypass the bridge.

Give up tubing, stay slipped in Back Bay—change the direction of your boating experience altogether—for the price of a Ford F-150:

https://m.outdoorrevival.com/wp-cont...23-800x600.jpg

It is yellow therefore we could all live in it as well.

Wifi-1 07-18-2019 09:54 AM

Great camo for Braun Bay :)

The Real BigGuy 07-19-2019 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Standbyme (Post 315462)
Well still unable to fit under Back Bay bridge in Wolfeboro to access open water. 20’ Key West DC didn’t have a problem last year but this year she hasn’t powered up yet :( I know sucks to be me. I’ll keep hoping but next year moving on. My question is where can I find a reasonable $ boat slip near Wolfeboro without taking a second mortgage. Roberts Cove? Melvin Village? Thanks

Are you looking to rent or buy? If buy, I think you will find all are expensive. I think the last Pier 19 slip sold for something in the area of 70 - 80k. It is supply & demand. Lots of new boaters but no new slips. Same with rental slips but, if you are in the right place at the right time you can get lucky. I have seen rack storage at places like Harilla for sale. They are cheap comparatively but not inexpensive.


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joey2665 07-19-2019 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 315642)
Are you looking to rent or buy? If buy, I think you will find all are expensive. I think the last Pier 19 slip sold for something in the area of 70 - 80k. It is supply & demand. Lots of new boaters but no new slips. Same with rental slips but, if you are in the right place at the right time you can get lucky. I have seen rack storage at places like Harilla for sale. They are cheap comparatively but not inexpensive.


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Absolutely correct. In 2006-2007 slips in South Down were going for over 100k then the recession hit and they dropped below 70k and rental also dipped. Now prices have been driven back up. It’s all about the economy.


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GTO 07-19-2019 09:48 PM

You're right...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 315576)
It amazes me here in the Forum that we never seem to answer the question asked by the OP ………… instead we reply with silly antidotes about filling his boat with water to lower it, trenching the channel, building a new bridge, etc etc


No one (other than Hillcountry) offered an answer to Standbyme's question ……… He NEVER asked how to get out of Back Bay …… he no doubt has a trailer and has already solved the short term problem

Those were some pretty ridiculous solutions if indeed they were stuck in back bay. If that was the case, a simple draw bridge would be a simple solution. That way I could get my boat into back bay.

JEEPONLY 07-19-2019 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8gv (Post 315585)
It is yellow therefore we could all live in it as well.

Just ask The Beatles!

ITD 07-20-2019 07:21 AM

Excavating the channel would lower the lake, but you would have to do a lot of excavation. When I jump in the water, the lake level rises, when I get out, it lowers. Just an infinitesimal amount, but it happens.

Woodguy53 07-21-2019 11:40 AM

Stuck in back bay
 
Stayed at a cottage in ROBERTS cove a couple weeks ago. Looked like they had a few open slips.
My boat is in a slip at Parker’s - bridge can be tight at times. Last week some of the pontoons were ‘really close’ to the top.

Merrymeeting 07-22-2019 06:46 AM

Why not just put it on a trailer and drop it in/out from the public ramps in Wolfeboro until the water level drops? Surprised the marina owners haven't offered to do this already.

barefootbay 07-22-2019 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 315575)
Can't you just see a high bridge in Wolfeboro? It would look ridiculous in the middle of town but dangerous for traffic and pedestrians.

How about a drawbridge ! Lol

chris410 07-24-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy (Post 315529)
Your best long term solution might be to buy a a different boat.... the price of slips is an ever increasing cost....

Woodsy

Sounds like the most logical answer... To me one of the best perks of owning water front is having your own dock that you can launch your boat from.

Taz 07-26-2019 02:25 PM

bridge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Standbyme (Post 315462)
Well still unable to fit under Back Bay bridge in Wolfeboro to access open water. 20’ Key West DC didn’t have a problem last year but this year she hasn’t powered up yet :( I know sucks to be me. I’ll keep hoping but next year moving on. My question is where can I find a reasonable $ boat slip near Wolfeboro without taking a second mortgage. Roberts Cove? Melvin Village? Thanks

have you tried going up to the bridge to see how much room there is? I had a slip there in 1998 at the Wolftrap during the lake wide no wake due to heavy rains and flooding. I bet it was higher then as we did not have a lakewide no wake this year and I was able to get my 20' bowrider under bridge by my wife pushing against the underside of the bridge and this pushed the boat down enough to get under.

Taz 07-26-2019 03:00 PM

bridge
 
just looked at a 20' Key West DC on line, don't know if you have the center console version or the bowrider version but either way it does not appear the windshield is any higher than my bow rider was when back there in 98 and the water was higher that year. if you have a bimini frame like I saw in the photos, that would need to be removed.

Taz 07-26-2019 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 315576)
It amazes me here in the Forum that we never seem to answer the question asked by the OP ………… instead we reply with silly antidotes about filling his boat with water to lower it, trenching the channel, building a new bridge, etc etc


No one (other than Hillcountry) offered an answer to Standbyme's question ……… He NEVER asked how to get out of Back Bay …… he no doubt has a trailer and has already solved the short term problem

because there is no answer to his question. There are no reasonably priced slips for sale or rent. And there are are waiting lists everywhere.

TheTimeTraveler 07-26-2019 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz (Post 316133)
have you tried going up to the bridge to see how much room there is? I had a slip there in 1998 at the Wolftrap during the lake wide no wake due to heavy rains and flooding. I bet it was higher then as we did not have a lakewide no wake this year and I was able to get my 20' bowrider under bridge by my wife pushing against the underside of the bridge and this pushed the boat down enough to get under.

I hope she didn't get too much bubble gum on her hands (bubble gum dangling from the underside of the bridge)!


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