Propane prices this winter
Curious what people are paying for bulk propane purchases this winter. We use about 850 gallons over the 5 heating months. I did not sign up for prepay this year but wondered how the proliferation of heat devices at restaurants might drive up demand for propane this winter.
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Just paid $2 per gallon for 160. No program call when needed
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$1.30/gal. Amerigas
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$1.19 Rymes but buying through a business group and they include our homes at the same rate.
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Those posting prices should also post usage since propane pricing is always priced by tiers, often even within buying groups.
It's something I've never quite understood. Seems to be the only heating fuel where you can be penalized for conserving. |
I'm surprised at this pricing as I paid $2.359, they own the tanks and remotely monitor usage.
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You better get on them early. My son just had a nightmare of a time getting them to fill his tanks. I guess they are really backed up.
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My $2 per is based on one fill a year. Currently only a gas parlor stove use. Hopefully hot water in the future
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Geeze um. I’m getting screwed. I just got 261.3 gallons at $3.44 a gallon.....
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Guessing you may want to rethink your supplier
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Couple questions.
How much Propane per year are you using? Im'usimg under 500 gallons so they say I pay a higher price. If I got up to like 900 gallons the price would be much less. Are you paying any delivery fees? Im not. Any other costs added to your bill? My consumption up until now was based on my house used maybe a few weekends a month in the winter and thermo left at 50 degrees during week. I also have a pellet stove that I ran on weekends when here so the gas heat doesnt come on with that running. I moved here now so trying to sort this all out. The pellet stove heats the house now. Maybe it costs me more than its worth LOL. I have 4 tons of pellets and Based on consumption so far Ill use them all. |
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Which is why we get the lower rate $1.44 is a pretty good price |
Beware Amerigas!
This season there’s been a real problem with Amerigas. Eight days ago, I spoke with them re our meter at 20%, so the best she could do was a delivery between 5-10 days, so my husband called Thursday, was told we were scheduled for yesterday.....and guess what? NO DELIVERY yesterday. He called again this morning, and was told Monday! Talk about nervous? I am a wreck, because they clearly cannot be trusted. Fortunately, we can use the electric heat if we must, but do we really need another frozen pipe disaster? As they say...BUYER BEWARE!
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We paid $131.82 on 11/13 for 56.6 gallons plus $6.35 Hazard Impact. Total: $138.17. Rymes.
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Last propane delivery- 4/25/20 -47.7gal, @ $3.539/gal. = $168.81 -$6.35 Hazzard impact fee -Total $175.16 I've paid over $4.00/gal. in the past- nothing you can do. They never (ok, seldom) miss with automatic delivery of both oil and propane, and the service people have been friendly and never (ok, again, seldom) have to come back. Thumbs up! |
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Rymes HAS "broken the sequence" for me, in the past. This has been true even before they bought Fuller out. This is why, even when people were throwing stones at Fuller, I stayed. Again- Two thumbs up! |
Yes thankful we have it. But I need somebody to fill it even if it’s not on the regular schedule which Rymes wouldn’t do. You must be special.
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Happy ending
Amerigas showed up at 8:30, and 385 gallons later, such relief! I am no mathematician, but my figuring says we were at 8% before the fill up.....too dicey!
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Another option could be a "tandem" tank to double your capacity..... |
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What they could have added, but perhaps considered "too much information," is that there must be adequate vapor space above the liquid level for disengaging of liquid splatter from the top of the boiling surface when the heating system or generator is drawing fuel for use. Propane absorbs heat from the ambient air, through the tank wall, to vaporize liquid for flow through the piping. This boiling must occur, even when the outside temperature is 20 below, to provide at least a few psi of pressure to move propane vapor to the appliance. [OK, perhaps the above is TMI!]. |
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Sorry if i offended you, but no need to be "smart" or snarky. After-all maybe I AM special- or you're just not. :( |
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We just had a generator installed as well. Only lost power once so far for an hour and a half. Of course, it comes on once per week to test itself. |
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Happened to our company in NY as well- Superior bought out a great family business that we used for our oil and propane and things went downhill from there. I hope that will not be the case with Rymes. |
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Because I've started working from home, my heating cost will rise. I called Rymes, yesterday, to make sure they adjust their automatic delivery to me. I think we all know they use things like degree days and past delivery records to forecast for automatic delivery- Expectedly, I won't get left short. |
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That reminds me - when we were getting quotes for the standby generator one guy said we should get an additional tank. We currently have 2 / 100 gallon tanks for our heat. We didn’t do it but I guess that’s an option if there are any issues in the future. |
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The supplier should have tables that will give vaporization rate required for a given generator size and rate sustainable at some minimum air temperature for a given tank size. That sets tank size needed. |
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We ended up with a 10k- hooked up to our 2/ 100 gallon tanks- again that also fuel our heat. At our other home - which was 2600 square feet- we had a 16k with 2/ 100 gallon tanks, but we heated the house with oil, not propane. One thing we did in our former home is if we had a long power outage, we shut the generator off over night to save on propane. |
filled today $1.82/gallon
Just got 250 gallons today at $1.82/gallon. Not part of a buying coop but have threaten to join one if Eastern did not come down on their price. While not the lowest price around, I don't want to go through hassle of yanking their buried tank out of the ground and buying one so I can shop around. Typically use about 1200 gallons over the course of a year (heating, dryer, stove and hot water).
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If you change they don't yank it out of the ground. The new company buys it. I asked. |
If it's above ground they swap it out and you have to get credit for remaining gas from the old tank.
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Curious, how deep are the propane tanks buried?
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Now I don’t feel so bad!! :):) Dan |
I also use Rymes. But each year I join Our Town Energy Alliace and pay the $30.00 fee. When OTEA sends out their schedule of propane prices in the Spring, I contact Rymes and ask them to match the OTEA price which for this year was $1.70 for 1,400gallons. That price was for 1,201 to 2,000 gallons. I have a 500 gallon under ground tank and switching to Rymes several years ago was a FITA, due to my prior supplier. Rymes has always matched with no issues. We shall see if their acquisition impacts that next year.
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We swapped to Rymes for service as much as price. The service crews that changed over all of our accounts was excellent. They discovered several leaks in the piping that had gone undetected.
Have not needed them in an emergency but so far so good |
So to join one of these groups best to do in early spring like March and get in on next years buy?
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Yes. I use Our Town Energy Alliance to get the prices and then use those prices to negotiate with my supplier.
https://ourtownenergyalliance.com/ |
Just paid $2.07/gal, after 10-day-payment discount, from Eastern with Our Town Energy membership. Usage in the 401-700 gal tier.
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Rymes delivery yesterday. 91.7 gallons at $2.83 per gallon.
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