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ishoot308 10-19-2023 07:39 AM

Terrible Tragedy
 
This is just awful news...So sad for his family and friends...

Did this happen at the Swallow Boat House Ramp??

https://www.wmur.com/article/vehicle...e-nh/45578495#

Dan

steve-on-mark 10-19-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 388717)
This is just awful news...So sad for his family and friends...

Did this happen at the Swallow Boat House Ramp??

https://www.wmur.com/article/vehicle...e-nh/45578495#

Dan

looking at a map of the area, the only boat ramp I see is the one right next to the boat house.

Susie Cougar 10-19-2023 08:41 AM

This is why anyone who lives near water should have a safety hammer in their car so that they can break the window or cut the seatbelt if they are trapped underwater. Such a tragedy.

Major 10-19-2023 09:05 AM

Good tip. Also, keep it up front - don't store it in the trunk!

C-Bass 10-19-2023 09:05 AM

I occasionally watch Adventures with a Purpose, they are on youtube, they use there skills to try and bring closure people who have missing love ones thought to have been lost in their cars underwater.
I bought this from them, its inexpensive and I drive by 20mi bay often and thought more so during the winter it would quiet easy to slide off the road onto the ice and down through it.

https://adventureswithpurpose.com/pr...indow-breakers

whalebackpoint'r 10-19-2023 09:33 AM

window breaker video
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQR4936l2d8

Stocking stuffers

LIforrelaxin 10-19-2023 09:55 AM

Wow, this is horrible news.....
It will be interesting to see if anymore comes out about this, I wonder if something like a mini stroke, or mild heart attack, was the root cause of the situation...

WinnisquamZ 10-19-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin (Post 388723)
Wow, this is horrible news.....

It will be interesting to see if anymore comes out about this, I wonder if something like a mini stroke, or mild heart attack, was the root cause of the situation...

Agree. Something doesn’t add up here


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FlyingScot 10-19-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 388724)
Agree. Something doesn’t add up here


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Agreed--the Globe reported that SUV was 85 feet from ramp. That seems impossible in multiple ways

WinnisquamZ 10-19-2023 01:08 PM

Also noted he was a reserve firefighter in Carlisle Ma. You would think with that background he knew how to get out if he could


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ishoot308 10-19-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 388726)
Also noted he was a reserve firefighter in Carlisle Ma. You would think with that background he knew how to get out if he could


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I believe the reserve firefighter was his neighbor who tried to help him by administering CPR...

Dan

WinnisquamZ 10-19-2023 03:01 PM

You are correct. That is what I get for listening to the wife tell me what happened


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MeredithMan 10-19-2023 03:28 PM

Several years ago, the Dad of one of my brother's friends did the exact same thing. He was older than this man, (in his mid to late 80's), and went to Saturday evening Mass. It was in the winter, so it was dark when he left the church and he became confused and disoriented on his drive home and drove down a boat ramp into the cold ocean water and did not survive. Very sad.

ITD 10-19-2023 03:50 PM

I suspect he became incapacitated before he went in. May he rest in peace.

ApS 10-20-2023 02:24 AM

Live, But Dramatic, Study...
 
1) WPLG-TV did a live study of a driver's escape from a car that had plunged into a canal. The EMT present said to roll down the windows, allow the water to fill the car, then exit by door or window.

The "victim" (news-anchor Dwight Lauderdale) followed directions, but couldn't escape the sunken car! :eek: He'd forgotten to unbuckle his seat belt and was hanging outside the window. :eek2: Recovering his senses, he pulled himself back inside, unbuckled, and swam to the surface.

2) Driving down to my [Florida] street, there's the correct right turn, but 50-feet sooner, is a boat ramp. Especially at night, it's an easy mistake to signal one's intention to turn down the boat ramp!

3) That a vehicle can roll downslope under water shouldn't be surprising.

TiltonBB 10-20-2023 05:57 AM

Sad story. A little more detail and a picture in the Laconia Sun:

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...07b719c53.html

LIforrelaxin 10-20-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 388730)
You are correct. That is what I get for listening to the wife tell me what happened


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We will all stay silent and if cornered not admit to your wife that this remark was made!!!!!!

Susie Cougar 10-20-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ApS (Post 388739)
1) WPLG-TV did a live study of a driver's escape from a car that had plunged into a canal. The EMT present said to roll down the windows, allow the water to fill the car, then exit by door or window.

Now that everyone’s cars have automatic windows, this is a serious problem. We used to be able to roll our windows down, not anymore.

WinnisquamZ 10-20-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin (Post 388747)
We will all stay silent and if cornered not admit to your wife that this remark was made!!!!!!

Thanks


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tis 10-20-2023 10:39 AM

Supposedly the headrests are made so you can pull them out and smash the window if you need to. But, who would think of using them or even be able to get to them with a seatbelt on????

ApS 10-23-2023 06:47 PM

Folklore Rebuffed...
 
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Originally Posted by Susie Cougar (Post 388749)
Now that everyone’s cars have automatic windows, this is a serious problem. We used to be able to roll our windows down, not anymore.

According to ABC-News experts, one's electric windows will readily operate even while totally submerged; otherwise, one would instead wait until the vehicle's interior fills completely to open the door(s).

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=...n%20the%20door

John Mercier 10-23-2023 07:47 PM

If you drive in... the vehicle generally traps air and has a short float period were you can remove your seatbelt and lower the window. Of course, if you weren't wearing a seatbelt, you may be unconscious.

If you went to OHRV/Snowmobile training, and your teacher was any good, they would be able to tell you that in the winter time... you have to open your eyes, follow the bubbles upward, and be aware to head for the brightest spot to avoid being trapped beneath the ice.

That works during the day... during the night, say a last prayer.

Even with the daylight, the shock of water temperature, and the drag of your clothing means that you may have only one small shot of ever pulling yourself back out onto the ice... and have to have the will of a bear to get your drained carcass to warms before hypothermia sets in.

The Real BigGuy 10-24-2023 07:16 AM

There is lots of video of vehicles being pulled from the water with their wiper running and their lights on. I would assume that electric windows would work but, somehow, I know I don’t want to have to test that theory


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