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Mirror Lake's BB 05-07-2013 12:03 PM

E-ZPass
 
We would like to sign up for E-ZPass and wanted to find out if there are any problems with charges when trailering a boat (PA to NH, NH to PA). Also wondering that since we have PA tags on the car and NH tags on the boat trailer whether this will cause any problems. Thanks

HellRaZoR004 05-07-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirror Lake's BB (Post 203542)
We would like to sign up for E-ZPass and wanted to find out if there are any problems with charges when trailering a boat (PA to NH, NH to PA). Also wondering that since we have PA tags on the car and NH tags on the boat trailer whether this will cause any problems. Thanks

I don't think the state tags matter as long as they are current. The E-ZPass system works the same way with a trailer. They have sensors that can tell when you have a trailer. It just get's deducted from what you have in the account.

BroadHopper 05-07-2013 12:20 PM

Axles
 
What amazes me is that the ezpass sensor can determine the number of axles on the trailer! Big brother watching!?!?!?!?

patman 05-07-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 203545)
What amazes me is that the ezpass sensor can determine the number of axles on the trailer! Big brother watching!?!?!?!?

Soon ezpass will have sensors to check for an enlarged prostate.





;)

Water Camper 05-07-2013 12:51 PM

EZ Pass
 
I have used EZ Pass with a trailer and never had an issue.

Only issue I have ever had was using a borrowed car and not registering it with EZ Pass.

Hope that helps,
Bill

nhboat61 05-07-2013 12:53 PM

I trailer between CT and NH and it just counts the axles, and yes two different state plates...sshhh (ny ezpass)

I have never had a problem. The plates on the trailers are not listed on the EZ pass, just the pulling vehicle. My Jeep has a FD plate on the front and when pulling the trailer blocks the rear plate... so it doesn't mater.

The EZ pass signal sent via the box is all the ID they need... the plates are only used when a signal is not picked up.

We have 3 cars and a few weeks ago we took the car with out the box and went thru every toll not realizing we didn't have the ezpass with us. I received my statement and had the plate listed on the statement and not the box-paid the normal tolls.

Redwing 05-07-2013 01:15 PM

I live in Connecticut and purchased my EZ Pass in New Hampshire...never a problem....

JasonG 05-07-2013 01:44 PM

Years ago when I lived in MA, my family had a place in NH. We were told if we registered our boat trailer in NH we could not tow it out of the state of NH. The basis of this was because we were MA residents and registering something out of our resident state.

Granted this was almost 20 years ago, but something to double with with your PA/NH trip

Mirror Lake's BB 05-07-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nhboat61 (Post 203552)
I trailer between CT and NH and it just counts the axles, and yes two different state plates...sshhh

I have never had a problem. The plates on the trailers are not listed on the EZ pass, just the pulling vehicle. My Jeep had a FD plate on the front and when pulling the trailer blocks the rear plate... so it does'nt mater.

The EZ pass signal sent via the box is all the ID... the plates are only used when a signal is not picked up.

We have 3 cars and a few weeks ago we took the car with out the box and went thru every toll not realizing we didnt have the ezpass with us. I received my statement and had the plate listed on the statement and not the box-paid the normal fee. .

We have been told by EZPass that you should also provide the trailer plates. Maybe to cover examples like the one you mentioned without the box. In case they have to photo your vehicle and only have the trailer plate, they can reference via that plate.

LIforrelaxin 05-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonG (Post 203555)
Years ago when I lived in MA, my family had a place in NH. We were told if we registered our boat trailer in NH we could not tow it out of the state of NH. The basis of this was because we were MA residents and registering something out of our resident state.

Granted this was almost 20 years ago, but something to double with with your PA/NH trip

I to was going to bring this up... I can tell you that this is still the case. I register my boat trailers in NH because they never come to Ma. And I had to sign a wavier saying that I would not take the trailers out of the state.

There used to be a 15 day grace period, so that you could accidently go out of NH.... but that is now gone... NH had to many issue, with people illegally registering things to get out of state income tax in surrounding states.

jrc 05-07-2013 02:15 PM

If you go through the ezpass lane and the transponder reads correctly, and the account is funded, you get a green light and it doesn't matter about plates.

But if you go through the expass lane and you get a red light, they look at the plate picture, then check to see if you have valid ezpass account tied to that plate. If you do then every thing is cool. Otherwise they send a $25 ticket to the owner of the plate.

SIKSUKR 05-07-2013 03:06 PM

Your EZ pass is good at any of the 18 EZ Pass states from North Carolina to Illinois to Maine.doesn't matter who is from what state.

BroadHopper 05-07-2013 03:20 PM

North Carolina?
 
I didn't know NC was an EZPASS state? They have no tolls.

secondcurve 05-07-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirror Lake's BB (Post 203542)
We would like to sign up for E-ZPass and wanted to find out if there are any problems with charges when trailering a boat (PA to NH, NH to PA). Also wondering that since we have PA tags on the car and NH tags on the boat trailer whether this will cause any problems. Thanks

How have you survived without E-Z Pass for so long. I have been an account holder since 1999!

wifi 05-07-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrc (Post 203560)
.... Otherwise they send a $25 ticket to the owner of the plate.

Hypothetically, if I were to loan my car to my son, and he paid a toll taker, but the EZ system malfunctioned and recorded my son as not paying. Would I, as the plate owner, then be charged a ticket (and have a record) without the due process of a NH court ?

Just curious.

tis 05-07-2013 05:46 PM

I just recently got a ticket for going through the Ted Williams tunnel and not paying a toll. My car has never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. My car has never even been to Boston. I have an initial plate and they are saying it is my plate. I appealed it and requested a picture of the car because it was not my car. I can't wait to see the picture. The ticket was $53.00. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Rusty 05-07-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 203573)
I just recently got a ticket for going through the Ted Williams tunnel and not paying a toll. My car has never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. My car has never even been to Boston. I have an initial plate and they are saying it is my plate. I appealed it and requested a picture of the car because it was not my car. I can't wait to see the picture. The ticket was $53.00. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Would it have been possible for some else in your family to use your car and you didn't know about it.

Maybe someone used your car to go to Logan International Airport.

brk-lnt 05-07-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 203573)
I just recently got a ticket for going through the Ted Williams tunnel and not paying a toll. My car has never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. My car has never even been to Boston. I have an initial plate and they are saying it is my plate. I appealed it and requested a picture of the car because it was not my car. I can't wait to see the picture. The ticket was $53.00. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Interesting. I think I've only ever gotten toll tickets from NH, but it always included a picture of my car/plate.

wifi 05-07-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 203573)
I just recently got a ticket for going through the Ted Williams tunnel and not paying a toll. My car has never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. My car has never even been to Boston. I have an initial plate and they are saying it is my plate. I appealed it and requested a picture of the car because it was not my car. I can't wait to see the picture. The ticket was $53.00. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Will they send you a picture of the car they allege was you? What happened to you are innocent until proven guilty? Are "they" a court of law or some black box, blameless, entity ? I need to register the cars to my cats :)

tis 05-07-2013 06:06 PM

Yes, you can request a photograph and I did. I don't know how else I can prove it wasn't my car. I have no idea who "they" are. I just dug the ticket out and on the top it says massDOT and the check is payable to MassDOT. It seems if you request a hearing you send that request to Tarrytown, NY. BTW, the toll was 3.50 according to the ticket. There must be someone in NH who goes to Boston a lot who has a plate like mine because maybe 30 years ago I got a Boston parking ticket and I had not been there. That was dropped.

We also had a friend from NH who had an initial plate and he drove through Boston and was stopped and taken to jail that night for RAPE! It seems his car was similiar to one they were looking for. He had an alibi -lucky for him! That was many years ago too. Guess Mass. doesn't like NH initial plates.

So I don't think there is any such thing as innocent until proven guilty.

Mirror Lake's BB 05-07-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by secondcurve (Post 203569)
How have you survived without E-Z Pass for so long. I have been an account holder since 1999!

Well, I still change my own oil, clean my own house, brew my own coffee, mow my own lawn, so old fashion is fine for me sometimes.

Actually, we googled a few years back "ezpass with trailer" and it seemed like there always were issues with trailers. For example, today we called EZPass PA and they mentioned that out of state trailer plates is not an issue. That differs with what has been posted in this thread. So it still doesn't seem so cut and dry and sometimes it just isn't worth it. They also mentioned that the toll charge with trailer is calculated by weight and not by axles. So for two trips to NH a year, it isn't really that big of a deal but may be time to change my stripes.

rick35 05-07-2013 09:18 PM

I've been going though the Hookset tolls pulling a trailer for years and have only once set off the alarm - this past Saturday. I heard the alarm and looked back in my side mirror to see the light flashing. I figured they'd check the image and charge my account manually.

It will be interesting to see how well the system works when Open Road Tolling starts which I think is this month. I noticed the lanes were wider when we through on Saturday. It looks like they just moved the existing booths farther apart.

TiltonBB 05-08-2013 04:33 AM

Resident or not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonG (Post 203555)
Years ago when I lived in MA, my family had a place in NH. We were told if we registered our boat trailer in NH we could not tow it out of the state of NH. The basis of this was because we were MA residents and registering something out of our resident state.

Granted this was almost 20 years ago, but something to double with with your PA/NH trip

A non-resident may register a car or trailer in NH but the vehicle registered cannot be out of state overnight. The registration issued will say "non resident" on it. I would be surprised if any police officer from another state knows about that NH law. And, if they do know, an officer from another state can't write you a ticket for violating a NH law.

The NH Department of Motor Vehicles assumes residency based on what state your driver's license is from. So even if your primary residence, the town you vote in and file your income taxes from is in New Hampshire you can only get a non resident registration if your driver's license is from another state. I know this because I drove a company vehicle in Florida while working there this past winter. The Florida company required that I get a Florida driver's license. While in Florida I bought a new car to drive back to NH but my town refused to register it because without a NH driver's license they could only issue me a non resident registration and they wouldn't do that because they concluded (correctly) that to get back from Florida the car would be out of town overnight.

The way the laws are written they leave you no way to be right. In order to obtain a Florida driver's license I had to claim to be a Florida resident even though I am only there less than 1/2 the year. OOps!

HomeWood 05-08-2013 05:51 AM

When I signed up for EZ Pass several years ago, I read that it was fine to tow a trailer now and then. If you towed a trailer all the time, they wanted to know type and plate #. Well, I don't tow a trailer all the time when I do through EZ Pass, thus I did not provide any trailer information.

dpg 05-08-2013 05:52 AM

When I was down in the Orlando area in April they seemed to handle tolls better than around here. People paying cash exited off to the side of the highway to stop and pay. If you had a transponder on your vehicle you never really even realize you've gone through the toll you just keep tooling along at your current speed with no toll islands or anything in the road. Isn't that the way it should work not getting slowed down at all?

Winnisquamguy 05-08-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg (Post 203591)
When I was down in the Orlando area in April they seemed to handle tolls better than around here. People paying cash exited off to the side of the highway to stop and pay. If you had a transponder on your vehicle you never really even realize you've gone through the toll you just keep tooling along at your current speed with no toll islands or anything in the road. Isn't that the way it should work not getting slowed down at all?

They already have open road tolling on 95 in Hampton and 93 in Hooksett is due to open in June.Have not heard anything about Rt3 in Bedford yet. I know they are trying to take the tolls out on the ramps in Merrimack.

chipj29 05-08-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wifi (Post 203570)
Hypothetically, if I were to loan my car to my son, and he paid a toll taker, but the EZ system malfunctioned and recorded my son as not paying. Would I, as the plate owner, then be charged a ticket (and have a record) without the due process of a NH court ?

Just curious.

As with any ticket, you have the right to either admit guilt by paying the fine, or go to court.

Pineedles 05-08-2013 08:10 AM

Monthly charge?
 
Does anyone pay a monthly statement charge for their E-Z Pass? I got mine in NJ nearly 20 years ago and they charge $2.00 per month for an electronic email of my account. I've heard some states don't charge for anything but the toll.

jrc 05-08-2013 08:28 AM

WIFI, you do not get a criminal ticket but an administrative fine. And it comes form the EZPASS company, not from the state. You can dispute it. I don't know what to do if you don't like the results of that process.

I've never had this happen but a family member routinely has to deal with this for a small business with several vehicles.

HellRaZoR004 05-08-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles (Post 203610)
Does anyone pay a monthly statement charge for their E-Z Pass? I got mine in NJ nearly 20 years ago and they charge $2.00 per month for an electronic email of my account. I've heard some states don't charge for anything but the toll.

I do not pay a fee in NH. Every so often they charge me like $30 to replenish the funds.

EllyPoinster 05-08-2013 09:50 AM

Possible Duplicate Number?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 203573)
I just recently got a ticket for going through the Ted Williams tunnel and not paying a toll. My car has never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. My car has never even been to Boston. I have an initial plate and they are saying it is my plate. I appealed it and requested a picture of the car because it was not my car. I can't wait to see the picture. The ticket was $53.00. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

There are duplicate plates in NH, just not on the same plate type. When I wanted to get a plate with my initials on it, it was available on a veteran's plate but not on a standard one.

PaugusBayFireFighter 05-08-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004 (Post 203612)
I do not pay a fee in NH. Every so often they charge me like $30 to replenish the funds.

Same here. I have one transponder registered to two vehicles. My wife's car is registered in NH and mine in Mass. There has never been an issue with residency stuff. If I drive through the tolls without my transponder there is no fine or violation, they just snap a picture and link my license plate to my account and deduct the toll fee.
EZPASS deducts money from my bank account when the balance is low.

nhboat61 05-08-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004 (Post 203612)
I do not pay a fee in NH. Every so often they charge me like $30 to replenish the funds.


I have an NY EZ pass, since I use my credit card for automatic replenishment and receive my statement via email, I am not charged any fees or security.

If you pay via check or cash, or have a statement mailed to you, there are fees and a security deposit on the device.

tis 05-08-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by EllyPoinster (Post 203619)
There are duplicate plates in NH, just not on the same plate type. When I wanted to get a plate with my initials on it, it was available on a veteran's plate but not on a standard one.

Really? I did not know that! Thanks for letting me know.

boat_guy64 05-08-2013 12:27 PM

Check your statements
 
I've had 2 ezpasses for about 10 years and I recently added a third when we added a third car. I'll admit that I never check my statement but I did notice quite a few of those $30 charges on my credit card. Since my wife lives at the lake in the summer and it is just me commuting on the weekends, it takes quite a while to accumulate $30 in charges. So, I finally checked my statement and realized that my third car was going down 93, over to 95 up onto the Maine turnpike about 3 times per week.

It seems that ezpass marked down the wrong id number when they sent me my pass. I was being charged for their charges and they for mine. After a few phone calls, they determined the mistake, gave me a $140 credit and I presume charged the other person.

So, check your statements.

BTW, getting back to the original question, I trailer my snowmobiles through tolls quite often and have never had an issue.

SIKSUKR 05-08-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 203565)
I didn't know NC was an EZPASS state? They have no tolls.

They certainly have tolls.
http://www.ncdot.gov/turnpike/tolls/
Heres' the list.
https://www.ezpassnh.com/en/about/facilities.shtml

tis 05-08-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by boat_guy64 (Post 203641)
I've had 2 ezpasses for about 10 years and I recently added a third when we added a third car. I'll admit that I never check my statement but I did notice quite a few of those $30 charges on my credit card. Since my wife lives at the lake in the summer and it is just me commuting on the weekends, it takes quite a while to accumulate $30 in charges. So, I finally checked my statement and realized that my third car was going down 93, over to 95 up onto the Maine turnpike about 3 times per week.

It seems that ezpass marked down the wrong id number when they sent me my pass. I was being charged for their charges and they for mine. After a few phone calls, they determined the mistake, gave me a $140 credit and I presume charged the other person.

So, check your statements.



BTW, getting back to the original question, I trailer my snowmobiles through tolls quite often and have never had an issue.


That is exactly why I have never had and expect to never have EZpass. We don't travel through the tolls every day and the times we do, I would rather pay as we go and not have to fight incorrect charges. I bet most people don't bother to check them and I bet a lot of people are being charged incorrectly.

Happy Gourmand 05-08-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 203656)
That is exactly why I have never had and expect to never have EZpass. We don't travel through the tolls every day and the times we do, I would rather pay as we go and not have to fight incorrect charges. I bet most people don't bother to check them and I bet a lot of people are being charged incorrectly.

It's like every other billing statement you get, you gotta check it.
It sure is nice to be able to cruise right through the tollbooth without stopping. It's especially nice on a Friday night when the lines at the cash booth are 20 or 30 cars deep, sometimes deeper.

HomeWood 05-08-2013 04:25 PM

I hit every toll from MD to NH and back when I come up (no tolls in NC &VA on I95). I love EZ Pass and I especially love it when there are a million cars at some of these tolls. Leaving NJ going south can be awful and there is a 55mph EZ Pass lane I can fly right through.

Slickcraft 05-08-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 203656)
That is exactly why I have never had and expect to never have EZpass. We don't travel through the tolls every day and the times we do, I would rather pay as we go and not have to fight incorrect charges. I bet most people don't bother to check them and I bet a lot of people are being charged incorrectly.

We get an email notice every month with a link to the month's charges. Never had an error, and yes I do click on the link each month. We get a 30% discount on all NH tolls so the $8.90 transponder cost will be recovered and then after that it is pure discount and no waiting and fumbling for the coins. But please feel free to stop and wait in line.:D


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