Wolfeboro Bay No Wake Zone
One of the agenda items for the Wolfeboro Board of Selectmen meeting scheduled for September 7, 2016 is the discussion of a no wake zone in Wolfeboro Bay.
I don't know the specific location of the NWZ under consideration. |
Wolfeboro Bay No Wake Zone
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Edit: apparently I can't read when I'm tired and cranky. Wolfeboro, not Meredith. Thanks for posting this!! |
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The thread you referenced is for a NWZ in Meredith Bay. I mentioned WOLFEBORO Bay. |
Alter The Trend...Double Fees 24+...
Wolfeboro's got a problem? :confused:
Solution 1 has already been posted: here. "Inadequate piling docks" need to be raised one foot. :cool: ___________ Solution 2 has been posted previously: here. As you age—and your boat's giving you aches from hitting wakes, buy a bigger boat... :yawn: ___________ Waitaminnit! :idea: Isn't buying a bigger boat contributing to a vicious cycle—producing bigger wakes—which cause these dreaded NWZs? :confused: . __________________ Sailing—Good for you and good for the world...drop fees to encourage sail power... |
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Once again here we go.... 1. Sure to some degree larger boats do produce large wakes but that is a rather dubious statement. So let's not be Clintonish about this and claim ignorance instead there is a DIRECT correlation between HOW a boat is operated and how much wake it puts out. Didn't we just have a discussion about "wake board" boats creating huge ones... well gee no kidding they are designed to be altered (bring onboard extra weight) combined with driving at just the right speed to create the perfect surfing wave. It has NOTHING to do with the size of the boat in that case and EVERTHING about how the boat is driven. I can easily kick up a 4 foot roller with my 19 foot bow rider so I guess my boat is to big too huh? Sorry we all don't want to canoe from Wolfeboro to Meredith! 2. So along your line of thinking however I propose if your idea was ever instituted we should by 20 fold increase the registration on the Mt Washington after all that sucker is HUGE and I mean that think leaves a tsuami behind it according to your logic. But lets not stop there, lets be sure to whack the mail boats surely the US Mail service can afford it (oh wait that's tax payer funded so of course they can - APS please be the first to stand in line to pay for your "fair share" of that one), and the YMCA boats, surely they can just jack up the already steep cost of attending summer camps. To hell with the parents of the kids that attend, many who can barely afford it and BTW many are inner city kids who without those camps would never have a chance to experience it. And finally the MP fleet and US BOAT tow boat they all need to get hammered too. Finally thanks for thinking of the small business guys like all the construction barges that are on the lake, I'm sure that won't hurt their bottom line either. 3. Then what to do with all this windfall of money? As is typical stick it in the general fund and spend it on something like studying the mating habits of butterflies. I love the liberal concept of fees like this... pat each other on the back for "doing something" but in reality it's a shake down for cash and the problem, well it's never solved. Please any more brilliant ideas? BTW APS looking at the pics of your dock, shame on you that is an awful lot of decking over the water, for somebody so concerned about the lake you certainly could do your part and rip that out and put in something that would meet today's standards. Don't forget to pay all those permitting fees too ;) So the ultimate solution then is use eminent domain to seize every piece of waterfront property close all boat ramps, put a big glass bubble over the entire lake and let everyone enjoy it from a distance and call it a federal wilderness area. |
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First, my guess is the Wolfeboro selectmen want to have a discussion on having an extended wake zone similar to what Meredith did a few years ago. Whether something like that is a good idea or not will likely be the subject of extensive debate. Personally, I don't think an extended NWZ will be as effective in Wolfeboro as it has been in Meredith. Wolfeboro bay is much wider and more exposed and in my opinion the NWZ would have to be out at the mouth of the bay to have the same calming effect at the docks. Don't think that most of us want to idle for 10-15 minutes in to the docks.
Second, way to rise to the bait of a well known / well worn agenda fellas. Time to stop feeding it guys, it's the same things time after time, year after year after year. We've all heard it many, many times, ignore the noise and excessive emoticons and maybe it will stop. Finally: APS / Madrasas or whatever you're going by these days, honestly we get that you like sailboats and wake free boats. I like sailing and kayaking too but it's not 1965 anymore and on weekends there are a lot more people enjoying the lake than there were 30/40/50 years ago. I'm pretty sure you get to enjoy the lake during the week, most of us don't. Take advantage of that gift and please learn to live and let live on the weekends. If you can't, perhaps it's time to consider relocating to a smaller lake that doesn't allow powerboats. Sorry but I've been reading versions of this same rant for at least the last 10 years, please understand that it turns even the most patient members off after a while. |
http://www.newhampshirelakesandmount...committee.html
Looks like a number of issues came up. A can of worms if you will. |
So It's Not the Wind, After All...
While it's not Wolfeboro Bay, adjacent Winter Harbor has recently sprung a number of boat lifts and breakwaters.
Those new breakwaters and boat lifts are located on Winter Harbor's least windy shoreline! :confused: Truly a vicious cycle...:eek2: . |
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For those interested, the minutes from the initial meeting of the 2016 Adhoc Committee on Town Docks in Wolfeboro can be found here: http://www.wolfeboronh.us/sites/wolf...es_9-14-16.pdf
With regard to the possibility of an extended no-wake zone in Wolfeboro bay, the meeting minutes include the following: "A lengthy discussion followed concerning the letter sent to the Board of Selectmen by resident John Ratcliffe, who proposed an extended “No Wake” zone in Wolfeboro Bay. Dave Owen noted that he had tried to follow up with the NH Marine Patrol to see about getting more “No Wake” zone buoys to mark the existing, statutory no wake zone, but that the Captain of the Marine Patrol was on vacation. It was agreed to continue discussion about this issue in the future. It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee will be on Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 9 AM. The meeting adjourned at 10:15 AM." |
Sounds like some folks over at WCYC are one of the major drivers of this.
Here's a quote from some of the coverage- "One afternoon recently I watched one wave large enough to throw my 34' boat and neighboring cruiser into the docks at [the Corinthian Yacht Club], hard enough to damage my own boat, which had two whips and a weighed offshore line run to a mooring block." From http://www.newhampshirelakesandmount...committee.html The condos adjacent to town and the WCYC seem like the only docks that would benefit from this. I've never noticed waves hitting Dive Winnipesaukee or Brewster. |
Could someone please explain why conditions on Lake Wentworth and Crescent Lake are germane to the issue of an extended no wake zone in Wolfeboro Bay. Obviously, I'm missing something.
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That in and of it self should shed some light on Mr. Radcliffes true opinions.... This summer I ventured into Wolfeboro bay for the first time in several years... yes it is rough, when it is busy... but no worse then other area's of the lake... If these NWZ are continue to be allowed to pass... before we know it its going to be NWZ from the wiers out to Eagle Island. I really don't like what I am seeing going on in regards to legislation on the lake...... Especially because none if it seems to really help... it just leads to new complaints.... |
Today I watched 2 A-holes race at 45 (or more) MPH to the NWZ in Wolfeboro, Passing 3 others cruising in. Came off plane right at the buoy. Regulations are usually caused by the few That are far more Important in there own minds. Where doomed, We will continue to be treated like children because we act like children.
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So no one is allowed to pass anyone anymore either? Were laws broken? You must exchange words with people in parking lots who park in the spot you had your eyes on too huh |
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I joined this forum to learn about the area and to learn tips and tricks about Winnipesaukee as well, yet all I've seen in the three or four years I've been a member is that you're really not allowed to do anything at all for fear of somebody like you will complain about it Keep bantering if you want to I'll be out on the lake enjoying myself today |
Soooo sorry to see you go....
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Maybe you can start your own site..."I blindly defend a$$holes on Winnipesaukee" There are a handfull of current forum members that would certainly follow you there. Think about it, you would be making yourselves AND all the rest of us much happier! |
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Is it possible to stick to the topic?
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Boo hoo whine whine whine is all I read.
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It looks like KAWISIWI likes to stir the pot.... rather than have a conversation. NB
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This thread should be closed for comment imo. |
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If the discourse offends you too much you can avoid reading the posts. |
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OK I'll bite. An extended NWZ will do nothing to alleviate the most recent incident comment being slapped about.
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"In Before Milfoil"...
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• I think the "jury is still out" on "Wake-boats" and "Wake-surfing". While they do exhibit a big "apparent" wake, that wake seems to self-cancel before hitting shore. :confused: • A renter next door had a unique way of approaching the dock with his Malibu-type ski boat. He makes a complete circle before attempting to dock, and that somehow "erases" the effects of difficult docking—for him. (Not recommending "circling" here—just an observation). :look: • I see the recent surge to pontoon boats as a positive effect for keeping existing tree-lines standing and Winnipesaukee's shoreline on shore. Shoreline residents are finding that mooring whips, boat lifts and new breakwaters are becoming absolute necessities. (Even where Mother Nature had never been a factor). • As for sailboats: most people haven't experienced the effect of motoring out of a harbor, raising the sails, and suddenly finding that shutting off the engine changes the whole experience of boating itself. :) • The slow demise of Winnipesaukee's summer camps isn't helping to "spread the word" to a quieter, responsible, and relaxing boating experience. Quote:
I've been on Lake Winnipesaukee so long, I remember "The Village Dining Room", Camp Wyanoke, dialing "6" for my doctor—and when there was no Duck Itch or Milfoil. (And a neighbor's 19' inboard as a powerful "clinker-built" boat). But perhaps you're right: when I visit places I've formerly called home, most have steadily gone downhill. Clear-cuts, shuttered shops, traffic jams, crooked politicians, "ridge development", pawn shops and highway billboards proclaiming "Had an accident?" have become commonplace. :( It's just that The Lakes Region has experienced the slowest decline of any place I've lived—and that keeps me here. :cool: . |
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