Performance Boats- Alive and Well!!!
 

It was good to see and hear all the performance boats that returned to the lake this year. There have been healthy sounding speed boats on the lake since the 20's. Thank goodness, the tradition continues!!

Very Nice Indeed
 

They were all doing under the 45 mph speed limit too! :laugh:

HAHAHAHAHA yeah sure they only went 45!!!

Most were, RG...
 

And in the 20's, a dozen residences. :rolleye1:

I was out... Nothing is keeping me from enjoy my new toy to the Fullest!!!

There were many times this past weekend when i was doing 45mph and I got passed like i was standing still buy some go fast boats. I wonder how many speeding tickets were given out last weekend??

according to the union leader. I think Skip posted the link. Zero were given. So much for the anticipated landslide crack down.

I heard, saw and passed many performance boats out and about this past weekend, and they were doing a fine job of enjoying their craft in a safe and responsible manner!

As PM said - just like days-of-old, with all the Lakers that used to cruise the big pond, it made me smile to see that our modern day decendants have carried on the tradition!

Nothing like the Memorial Day kick off weekend! And a big thanks to all our troops - past and present - for doing what you do! :cool:

...heard a horn blast....looked up....and saw one of the old MP boats w/ blue lights...stop a 17' Boston Whaler on Fri or Sat and do a papers inspect...probably stopped for the 150' rule...too close to the MP boat...so do violations like that go on your car driving record too?

from reading the law and other threads my impression is "yes" but I have not heard confirmation from anyone.

I believe the answer is no. A speeding violation would, providing the appropriate states notify each other. They are supposed to, but alot of times this does not happen.

And people had an average life span of age 62.. :D

Sunday, while docked at Alton public docks, a MP gave me a nice reminder of the new law. Its color printed on heavy paper and lists the new limits and how to determine if it is night.

My wife laughed and told him my boat could not exceed the new day limit. He said, he could never be sure. I did pass this guy on the way to Alton at 30 mph and 500 feet.

Au Contraire
 

I believe HB 847 also enacted that any violation goes on your motor vehicle record.

From http://votesmart.org/issue_keyvote_d...4&can_id=43015

This bill establishes speed limitations for vessels traveling on Lake Winnipesaukee. This bill also requires that violations of the general rules for vessels operating on water become a part of the motor vehicle driving record of the person convicted. These provisions are repealed on January 1, 2011.

Note that the above does not single out speed limit violations. And why shouldn't it. If speeding is soooo dangerous it deserves extra punishment then why should violation of the Safe Passage Law (aka the 150' rule) deserve any less ?

A PDF file on HB 847 http://votesmart.org/billtext/17024.pdf
and Chapter 270-D:2 General Rules for Vessels Operating on Water http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...-D/270-D-2.htm

Same here im not going to let this stop me from enjoying the wide open brods. It felt good to get out there and see no boats in sight and double the limit lol.... Im sure if your not stupid about the places you open her up you will never get a ticket.

Agreed.. I almost doubled it as well.... :eek::D

Loving the new boat.. It is amazing to feel how much power is left even when cruising at 60 mph

So if I get a ticket for a 150' violation, that is going on my driving record? How will that be recorded as a driving violation? I mean, what will it be recorded as?
Being that the 150' law is very subjective, you can bet that if it goes on my driving record I will be fighting it in court. Please bring your calibrated tape measure that you used to measure the distance, officer! :D

some one told me that the mp are getting radar guns that do speed and also distance.some type of laser.can any one confirm this.

Ahoy...ahoy....paging XO Lieutenant Commander Skip.....we need a definitive answer to this compound & complex motor boat & automobile driving violation administration application question backed up with a complete legal history of how this wacky law got here! :D

I can call it wacky, now that it's been passed into law. Like, who cares? Me-thinks basically, that a Republican state legislature would quickly let it die in January 2011 just to show everyone who's in charge, again. After being the legislative 'big dog' for 150 years, it probably no fun being the little doggie.........woof!

Hey, for all I know, the Boston Whaler could have been stopped for having the wrong color sticker?

If the insurance lobby was involved in any way, shape or form, wow. Make no mistake, I'm just providing information for a discussion, and I'm not promoting anything here.

Their lobby initially tried to get the BAC level to .04, then they tried .05. They settled on an agreed .08. I believe that this started some ten years ago, and a phase in period through 2007 was initiated. The enticement? Lose federal highway funds if you don't adopt the BAC level.

There's been no real statistical evidence showing that the law itself has done anything. In states where enforcement and getting the word out is strong, the results have been positive. Not because of the adopted BAC level itself, but the fear of arrest. Many, many years of evidence clearly show that most fatal accidents involving alcohol on the highways involve BAC levels far exceeding the .08 level. Once you take the offenders with levels above 2.0 out of the equation, the numbers drop pretty dramatically. At 1.5 and above, a vast majority drop off the charts.

It's hard to determine a ten year history that shows .08 did anything. Many states didn't adopt that level until 2006/2007, which is the timeframe they had to comply with the federal mandate, and then they could recover their lost 2% funding for each year it was held back. The real kicker is in the statistics themselves. Most data was complied with several major assumptions. Most states concluded for years that if a single car accident occurred between 7 PM and 5AM on a Friday or Saturday, it was alcohol-related. Other such statistics can be misleading as well.

For instance, assume two cars are heading into an intersection with traffic lights. Car A is going 36 mph in a 35 mph zone, and has the green light. Further assume that car B, is traveling 32 mph and has a red light. Car B runs the red light, T Boning car A. In many jurisdictions, this is a speed-related accident.

Let's say you've worked 65 hours this week and you're tired. you had a couple of beers with dinner and are heading home. You have no idea that your BAC level is .085. You are going 43 mph in a 40 mph zone on a straight, 2-lane road. A deer jumps out in front of you, you swerve to avoid the deer, you lose control of the car, hit a tree, and die as a result. This accident is recorded as alcohol-related, speed-related (probably). People reading about your demise in the paper are outraged about stupid drunks on the road, and are glad nobody else was killed by your actions.

One of the key issues in any widespread legislation is followup, and complete data. In looking at much of today's data, no reasonable conclusion can be made.

It was nice to see everyone out. Nothing like the Lake!

I know I will miss rides in the boat we sold our friend it was a 36 nor-tech cat that had twin 850s hit 135mhp with the under water exhaust. the acceleration was insane. And you could have a conversation at 100. Nor-tech is def changing things with the new quiet exhaust systems.

If I had to guess it will be considered a moving violation, and treated the same as if you hit the yellow line while traveling or rolling through a stop sign. Seems so rediculous to me and as you say, please bring the tape measure with you. Or you could as them in the court room to tell you the distance from front to back of the room, if they cannot do that off the cuff and at least be within 3-5 feet than that might prove to the judge that you should not be there.

I may get in trouble for this but it is a serious thought..... Due to the repetitiveness of the laws in effect, come 2011 if everything stays on the books shouldn't they remove the 150ft rule?

I boat up and down the east coast and surprisingly once on the ocean or major rivers there are no 150 ft law or limits. It is what is deemed safe and prudent. So running next to each other at 70 mph only 50 feet apart is very common and very safe because of the type of boat. (enough said on that)

So maybe they would consider taking that away.. Just a thought

I highly doubt you will ever see that happen.

I agree. But just trying to make sense of everything. Cut back on the repetition

Much the same way men have tried to convince themselves that six inches really is a foot, many boaters think that 50' really is about 150'

I'd hate to think what telling them the rule is now 50' would do. :eek:

a couple of cents here
 

So here is the things as I read through this stream..... We have complaints of the speed law and complaints of the 150' law all while claiming to be safe boaters....

Now here is the things a safe boater obays the law weather they agree with it or not.

hence by reasoning if you flaunt and ignore a law you take your self out of the class of safe boaters....

All that being said, I fully trust that OCD even when speeding is a safe boater, and livefreeordie probably is too...but here is the thing don't go around saying your a safe boater and you follow the rules, and then follow up by saying you can go 60 and still have power....

A safe boater follows the rules even if they don't believe they are in the best interest of all.

I personally don't believe the overall speed limit is the way to go.... but you know what its law right now, if you want to change start working for the change by first obaying it, so that the politicians can see that speed limit or not it doesn't really change things.

If someone knows how to make this cruddy cold weather go back to last Thursday's 92, sunny & humid I'll pay to fill the tank on their performance boat :eek: ....... yuk!

Speaking Of Rides
 

Speaking of rides how about that ride from you owe me from last year?
I can do a photo shoot for you sometime this season.If my boat keeps running.

PM me your number and when I get an other chance to take the big boat out I will call to see if your around.....

Ya, the good'OL days since gone.... Talk about a "Jump Out Of The Water
Adrenaline Rush", here's a boat that I got to ride on, a triple 900 hp'rd 9.5' beamed, stage hulled 46' Cougar. After the firing of all three engines while negotiating out into open water, doo put your Hanns Devise on and pray!

With the 45mph limit, doubt we will ever see them here.

WOW Gorgeous boat!!!! Would love to see a pic of the engines!

I love the old cougar boats..... does that one still sit on the channel like it has for what seems to be all my life. mot once have I seen it in action

Ocdactive, you are obviously a fast boat enthusiast, you should check out this link below if you have not yet

http://www.screamandfly.com/

I sold a boat there a few yrs back, people are always asking for and posting pictures of their rigs:coolsm:

If you are thinking of safely going over 45, watch out for the MP. They have been hiding in unusual places around m'boro bay today, sitting still for longer periods than normal. Probably looking to make the news for writing that first speeding ticket.

First of all, boating tickets were never tied to your driving record untill the supporters of HB 847 pushed for it. And, it is attached to speeding only, as far as I see it, because they saw to it. Secondly, a ticket for breaking the 150 foot rule is not going to show up on your insurance. And, even if it did, you would be foolish not to arbitrate it. Bottom line; obey the laws and go faster than 45 only when safe, prudent and not in plain view of the MP. Everything in moderation and you will be ok.

Winnipesaukee History—Maybe
 

That first ticket may already be part of Winnipesaukee history.

At 8:40 this morning, a NHMP inboard, traveling at :o :emb: :blush: flank :emb: :o :blush: speed, tailed a 21' white Donzi for a good mile. The two eventually stopped and drifted out of my sight, but the Donzi did end up being cornered in a cove by Pine Harbor Condos. ("Tuftonboro Bay" is a dead-end).

"The discussion" with the three aboard lasted at least 15 minutes.

(The NHMP inboards usually around here display numbers MP-7 and MP-11, and appear to have the NHMP's most-seasoned officers aboard).

Later, the Donzi left the area at about 1/3 his accustomed rapidity. (About equivalent to NHMP's :blush: flank :emb: velocity). Since then, it's been a relatively busy Saturday, with bright sun all day and variable winds from 0 to 15, but everybody seems to be behaving themselves—at least since 8:40 AM. :D

I gotta say, that's one really fast Donzi! (100-MPH? Danged impressive for a little boat). Maybe Woodsy has heard if history was made today. :confused:

(Or, to put it another way, will this ticket appear on eBay?) :laugh:

No ticket
 

That was my boat you are referring to, no ticket was given, sorry to disappoint you.

You must have been going pretty fast yourself to see all this..............