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Mr. V 05-22-2012 07:27 PM

The suit was brought by the owners of the property who are understandably worried about why it is taking so long for the Fire Marshall to finish the investigation.

Their key concern is for their own hides, not tearing the building down.

Be patient, I see a "happy ending..."

Sunset View 05-22-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Gourmand (Post 182098)
Why stop the blame at the Governor? I think it's Obama's fault!
I'm with Heaven on this, like it or not, agree or disagree, the owners, regardless of their community standing and personal behavior, are entitled to their due process.
We'd all like to make this go away, but until the court decides, we all have to abide by and respect the process.
Like somebody said, It is what it is.

Good point...it is Obama's fault!:)

meredith weekender 05-23-2012 08:41 AM

I think a bailout might be in order here. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

nhyitbos 05-23-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meredith weekender (Post 182432)
I think a bailout might be in order here. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

haha...for us or the Baldi's....? What a mess...

NoBozo 05-23-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunset View (Post 182403)
Good point...it is Obama's fault!:)

YES..... BUT HE ..inherited it from BUSH. :D NB

no-engine 05-25-2012 12:51 PM

Bike week fast approaching, lets see how the traffic at the now partial roundabout goes? I think the plan was live as is till more work after Labor Day.

I keep going by and see no work on saloon. or no partial collapse of the unstable structure. Let's see how many vendors set up there and within grounds of the drive-in, and at the almost inactive water slide & mini golf?

Sunset View 05-26-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBozo (Post 182440)
YES..... BUT HE ..inherited it from BUSH. :D NB

Riiiiiiiiiiiight................and I bet you look like Brad Pitt!

Back to topic: Knock down the dump that is/was the Wide Open Saloon!!! Come on people, it's summer and our area is looking worse and worse each week.........does anyone care about home values, tourists, and quality of community? Take a ride to Lake George, this type of eyesore would never be allowed to happen there and if it had, you can bet your bottom dollar no one would be talking about Bush or OBama; they wold be expediting the process to uphold the image that is Lake George. We need to do the same for our wonderful and beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee! Enough with the drive-in, enough with the waterslide (that also is looking pathetic) and enough with the Wide Open Saloon........the entry to Lake Winnipesaukee is being denigrated by 2/3s of these three estsblishments.......avoid the drive in and the waterslide at all costs! Obviously, the owners care little about our community or their businesses!

Go MITT!

no-engine 05-26-2012 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunset View;

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Back to topic[/U]: Knock down the dump that is/was the Wide Open Saloon!!! Come on people, it's summer and our area is looking worse and worse each week.........does anyone care about home values, tourists, and quality of community? Take a ride to Lake George, this type of eyesore would never be allowed to happen there and if it had, you can bet your bottom dollar no one would be talking about Bush or OBama; they wold be expediting the process to uphold the image that is Lake George. We need to do the same for our wonderful and beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee! Enough with the drive-in, enough with the waterslide (that also is looking pathetic) and enough with the Wide Open Saloon........the entry to Lake Winnipesaukee is being denigrated by 2/3s of these three estsblishments.......avoid the drive in and the waterslide at all costs! Obviously, the owners care little about our community or their businesses!

FOR SURE sunset! Great message.

Why not gather all the area firefighters and volunteer fire men/women and create a planned drill. What a training! Pre-planned within & the immediate neighbors, but not necessarily released to the media in advance.

Make it mid-week, very soon, after all the Holiday visitors are gone.
The Busby office trailer and most equipment is gone! A sure sign they are gone till September.

Sunset View 06-06-2012 06:50 AM

Can there be no connection to the dump that is the WB water slide and the run down Drive In? Is there no creativity ? Is there no concern whatsoever about the terrible reputation the Weirs is being cast with? How long will it be before those tourists with dollars to put back into the community will opt for different locations?....can't the town's selectmen and elected officals force the dead beat owners to spruce up both of those establishments while the general public and all the of the out of state tourists wait for the 5 year anniversary of the WOS's fire and tear down?

I ask you, where else would such aggregous shenanigans be allowed? Elected officals, you should all be ashamed of yourselves; I hope you all enjoy "The Dictator" at the drive in Friday night, may it rain like there's no tomorrow!

TIER THE WOS DOWN!

no-engine 06-06-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunset View (Post 183413)
Can there be no connection to the dump that is the WB water slide and the run down Drive In? Is there no creativity ? Is there no concern whatsoever about the terrible reputation the Weirs is being cast with? How long will it be before those tourists with dollars to put back into the community will opt for different locations?....can't the town's selectmen and elected officials force the dead beat owners to spruce up both of those establishments while the general public and all the of the out of state tourists wait for the 5 year anniversary of the WOS's fire and tear down?

I ask you, where else would such aggregous shenanigans be allowed? Elected officals, you should all be ashamed of yourselves; I hope you all enjoy "The Dictator" at the drive in Friday night, may it rain like there's no tomorrow!

TIER THE WOS DOWN!


VERY GOOD, Thanks for expressing opinion..... All three properties are family related as you must know! NOW, look at the revenue stream (cash likely) from bike related vender tents, including the bike week association at uphill parking of slide! Many in position for TWO weeks or more!

WHY NOT A LETTER TO EDITOR IN LOCAL PAPERS?

I would, but I work at a business in a neighboring community, and vote there. However, I do drive by very frequently.

LongBay 07-02-2012 09:40 PM

My next prediction...Part II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay (Post 178763)
My next prediction on this debacle is The Wall at Fenway Park will come down before the Wide Open. So let's see what's still standing by end of day July 1st, 2012.

Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

Belmont Resident 07-03-2012 04:08 AM

My god.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay (Post 185462)
Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

Like a bunch of old ladies constantly gossiping about the neighbor. :cool:
Yes it’s ugly but how dead can a dead horse get before you stop beating it to a pulp. :laugh:
No amount of commenting on this forum is going to have an impact when those who own the property don’t care what others think about them or what they choose to do. :rolleye2:

Sunset View 07-03-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay (Post 185462)
Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

LB, One can only pray you're right.......amazing, it's July 3rd and we are hoping for snow to mask the dump that is the WOS! I'm with you LB....here's wishing for the mother of all blizzards in Novemebr and/or December...finally we'll be able to look forward to the sumer of 2013 without the WOS! Come on SNOW!!! Perhaps we should get in touch with Gunstock and borrow a snow gun for a few days............hmmmm.........it might just work.

Have a great, safe and enjoyable 4th everyone; and on this day, please remember our brave troops with enormous pride as they risk their lives everyday to provide you and me with freedom. Go USA!

AB_Monterey 07-03-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongBay (Post 185462)
Well here we are it's July 2nd. The Wall did came down at Fenway Park last night but not after a plane crashed into it first. It took the work of the stage crew who spent the day building it to knock it down in less than one minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHyJ...eature=related

With that said, it's time for my next prediction regarding the fate of the Wide Open. We are going to get above average snowfall this winter. All that snow will be appreciated by the skiers, snowmobilers and nearby property owners as they watch the snow pile up and finally see the Wide Open walls come tumbling down from all that snow piling up in the Saloon.

LB, I'm guessing you were there too? Amazing show.

LongBay 07-08-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AB_Monterey (Post 185481)
LB, I'm guessing you were there too? Amazing show.

Unfortunately I did not get to the show at Fenway but I did see it at Madison Square Garden.

nhyitbos 08-09-2012 09:17 AM

Offer made, offer rejected
 
WOS was offered by a large contractor to tear it down sans the abatement. They turned it down. LB replied, "F the Weirs, F Laconia". Nice.

They will tear it down when THEY are ready. Its a reflection of them, hence the comments on this blog.

Lesson: When you are always trying to get even; you'll never get ahead!

Personally, I feel for their plight due to the Ponzi scheme...insurance fights, state not willing to release the report, slow court system. Then their personal home burns. Coach Holtz said that "Life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react." The whole situation is unfortunate. :rolleye2:

Resident 2B 08-09-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhyitbos (Post 188697)
WOS was offered by a large contractor to tear it down sans the abatement. They turned it down. LB replied, "F the Weirs, F Laconia". Nice.

They will tear it down when THEY are ready. Its a reflection of them, hence the comments on this blog.

Lesson: When you are always trying to get even; you'll never get ahead!

Personally, I feel for their plight due to the Ponzi scheme...insurance fights, state not willing to release the report, slow court system. Then their personal home burns. Coach Holtz said that "Life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react." The whole situation is unfortunate. :rolleye2:

Just so everyone knows, the LB quoted here is not LongBay.

R2B

nhyitbos 08-09-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resident 2B (Post 188736)
Just so everyone knows, the LB quoted here is not LongBay.

R2B

haha....right! correction LBdi...that works!

Mr. V 08-09-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhyitbos (Post 188697)
The whole situation is unfortunate. :rolleye2:

Yeah, you reap what you sow.

Janet 09-07-2012 08:29 AM

The Citizen has a headline today that says the Wide Open Saloon will be torn down next week. Can't read the article as I don't have a subscription. Will check out the Laconia Daily Sun to see if they have the info.

AC2717 09-07-2012 08:58 AM

i hope so, wonder if this is the case, how long it will stay a pile of rubble, or vancant lot with a fence around it with weeds growing all over the place, but
my guess:
it will be torn down, and a leveled lot will show up to be only used for bike week vendors - if this is the case, yay:(:rolleye1::mad:

no-engine 09-07-2012 09:51 AM

I also see Citizen headline in the vending machines. Nothing in Sun.

Also, I commute that way often. The highway signs of construction are back up. Busby crews are out marking the pavements. No Busby equipment is behind Saloon, as before; they must have another site for their staging.
We shall see, as I may commute that way later today after 5:00.

Move on Baldi family members! Thurston's and other neighbors must be happy!

Sunset View 09-07-2012 12:24 PM

Beautify
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no-engine (Post 190530)
I also see Citizen headline in the vending machines. Nothing in Sun.

Also, I commute that way often. The highway signs of construction are back up. Busby crews are out marking the pavements. No Busby equipment is behind Saloon, as before; they must have another site for their staging.
We shall see, as I may commute that way later today after 5:00.

Move on Baldi family members! Thurston's and other neighbors must be happy!

No-Engine is right; good for Don and Jeff Thurston, the Lobster Pound and all the businesses that do care about civic responsibility at the Weirs......they and so many others didn't deserve this type of nonsense for so long. Good for the Weirs, our beautiful lake and the entrance to Winnipesuakee....I sincerely hope we can all take a step forward and beautify the jewel that is the Weirs. As for the Baldis, I hope they take their tired, disgraceful act to a place where people will embrace their ignorance. Here's hoping they land many miles away from NH.......Good riddance to all the Baldis!

no-engine 09-07-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunset View (Post 190547)
As for the Baldis, I hope they take their tired, disgraceful act to a place where people will embrace their ignorance. Here's hoping they land many miles away from NH.......Good riddance to all the Baldis!

Great! We like that!
However, is it known that land ownership will change with demolition? I have not read so. Nor have we read that others in family have changed their interest (ownership) in the Weirs Water Slide or the Drive-In.
They also own the Colonial Theatre in downtown Laconia.
Let's not head beyond this first grand step of site clean-up, for which we all seem very appreciative.

Good sized back hoe has started tearing at the back side, observed as I went by between 5 & 6pm. No name on back hoe. Busby water tanker truck was parked on side of entry to drive in, outside the fencing.

evergreenenvious 09-07-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AC2717 (Post 190522)
i hope so, wonder if this is the case, how long it will stay a pile of rubble, or vancant lot with a fence around it with weeds growing all over the place, but
my guess:
it will be torn down, and a leveled lot will show up to be only used for bike week vendors - if this is the case, yay:(:rolleye1::mad:

Its being taken down. You can all stop with the complaining and attacking of the baldis. How long it will stay whatever..... shouldn't matter to you, it doesn't matter what they do or what they go through you all are still going to find some reason to talk about them, some fault in them.

no-engine 09-08-2012 07:23 AM

Chan 9 News: said "all parties have come to agreement" to tear it down!

Winnisquamguy 09-08-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by no-engine (Post 190602)
Chan 9 News: said "all parties have come to agreement" to tear it down!

The owners are also paying for it to be taken down and should be completed by the middle of next week.

Winnisquamguy 09-08-2012 08:37 AM

Article from LDS
 
Wide Open Saloon can be rebuilt on same footprint within 1 year

LACONIA — Work to demolish the remains of the Wide Open Saloon at the Weirs, which was severely damaged by fire in the early morning hours of September 17, 2010, finally began yesterday. Anthony McConnachie Farm and Construction Company of Hampstead is undertaking the work for Brandi Baldi, the principal of 38 Endicott Street North, LLC, the owner of the property.
According to the demolition permit issued to Baldi, the work is scheduled to be completed Wednesday, September 12. City Manager Scott myers said that if the building is not razed on time, in keeping with an order issued by the 4th Circuit Court-Laconia Division last year the city could demolish the building and bill the owners for the cost of the work. However, he doubted it would be necessary to invoke the court order.
After the fire, the charred remains of the building stood for nearly two years, its demolition stalled by several strands of litigation. Baldi appealed a court order, sought by the city to demolish it, pursued a claim against Lloyds of London, her insurance carrier, and sued the New Hampshire State Fire Marshall for withholding information about the fire. At the same time, the firm that installed the alarm and sprinkler systems sued Baldi for failing to pay for the work.
As early as May of last year other business owners at the Weirs urged the City Council to take steps to hasten the demolition of the building, which they described as an eyesore casting a pall over the resort community that placed its hotels, cottages, restaurants and attractions at a disadvantage.
Myers said that the city settled with Baldi, noting that both parties agreed not to seek attorney's fees and court costs from the other. The New Hampshire Supreme Court rejected Baldi's claim against the fire marshal while the outcome of the remaining suits is unclear.
Planning Director Shanna Saunders said yesterday that once the demolition is complete, the owners of the property will have one year to make a good faith effort, which could amount to filing a site plan or pulling a building permit, to rebuild on the same footprint, without being bound by changes in the zoning ordinance enacted since the original building was constructed.
Baldi could not be reached to comment about future plans for the property.

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/index...4-saloon-razed
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Sunbeam lodge 09-09-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crowsnest (Post 153214)
Does anyone know if they did anything with the burt saloon or have any plans for it. I hope they rebuild or knock it down before tourist season starts this year !

It looks like it has been demolished

meredith weekender 09-09-2012 09:41 AM

Went by this morning and it is a pile of rubble. Thanks to the Baldi family for stepping up to the p,ate and taking this down. Wishing them luck with future plans for the property. A casino sounds good to me.

SIKSUKR 09-10-2012 07:36 AM

I would call it more like being dragged to the plate kicking and screamimg.Hardly worth a thank you.

corollaman 09-12-2012 01:13 AM

Good Riddance!
 
It's about time! So glad that dump is finally gone! They should just sell the land, or use it for Bike Week space. The Weirs could definitely use more parking too.

LongBay 09-12-2012 07:46 PM

Be careful for what you wish for...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corollaman (Post 190815)
...The Weirs could definitely use more parking too.

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
-joni mitchell

Altonbayicefishingfool 09-12-2012 07:52 PM

They should have just let the fire dept. use it as training and burn it to the pavement.. Would have been a lot easier.. Been driving by that dump twice a day for a year and a half.. What an eye sore! Place your bets now on what will be there next summer, I'm guessing prime vendor space @ bike week and parking the rest of the summer..

Shore Driver 09-13-2012 08:39 AM

I always enjoyed sitting on that patio at night. It's a unique spot to watch the world go by at the Weirs. Hoping they rebuild it - the Weirs needs something there besides parking.

AC2717 09-13-2012 09:24 AM

another great strolling area would be best, a u or l shapped building with Restaurants and boutiques would be awesome with some parking in the middle. That way you could keep the honkeytonk of the weirs and also give a little meredith type flavor. LIke a outdoor bistro, and at night a dueling piano bar and grill and then some shops

This would be awesome and a way to increase business in laconia and the weirs without a total redesign

how cool to get off the boat walk down the board walk and the beach across the street to something like that

fatlazyless 09-13-2012 11:43 AM

Methinks it will probably just become a vacant commercial lot with a sign FOR SALE similar to the one across the road there......former home to Karl's Fine Food restaurant which burnt down maybe eight years ago. The new Malfunction Junction will have a very nice new roundabout with a decorative garden in the center that's tended by volunteer gardeners, and these two vacant commercial lots on either side of it .......nice! ....that location is very seasonal for most businesses .... but not all?

evergreenenvious 09-15-2012 10:15 AM

Sad all that that family has been throw in the last few years, But they are Strong Good People and I am Positive they will keep moving forward and I hope they can rebuild something in the future

Mr. V 09-17-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evergreenenvious (Post 190988)
Sad all that that family has been throw in the last few years, But they are Strong Good People and I am Positive they will keep moving forward and I hope they can rebuild something in the future

OK, I give up.

What family are you talking about?

evergreenenvious 09-18-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. V (Post 191038)
OK, I give up.

What family are you talking about?

Funny ................


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