So you throw mud by making a baseless accusation. Then when you are called on it you respond with "LOL". I suppose LOL is the online version of an apology. It's easier to say the entire thing was a joke than to say "I made a mistake".

There never were multiple screen names in the past. There is no evidence, that I am aware of, of multiple screen names now. And none of this has ANY connection with Bear Island.

Still LOL. There was evidence of multiple screen names from the same IP, and just because you BI are not aware of the continuing problem of multiple screen names does not mean that it doesn't still exist.

Lets just agree to disagree and move back to the topic at hand and ponder if going 45 makes less noise and wakes or a nice rumble for longer and bigger wakes.

Now you are trying misdirection.

There is nothing wrong, or against forum rules, with using multiple screen names on the same IP, it happens all the time. Obviously it happened in the past, and will happen in the future.

The "problem" would be multiple screen names being used by one person.

Past views.
 

Good way to CYA. I wasn't talking about your view on this controversy. I was talking about your fews in the past about speed limits and GFBL boats. Now it looks like you change your mind about the GFBL boats.

I think you realize they are beautiful boats! It's the boneheads that we must go after to make this lake safe! :cheers:

I have not changed my mind about GFBL boats. I always liked them. It's a shame that many responsible operators have been inconvenienced. I always pushed for a reasonable compromise like unlimited on the Broads or a higher limit.

Everyone should just be thankful that families can now boat safely, you can hear crickets chirping at all hours of the day, and no longer will the land be attacked by violent waves. Erosion has been eradicated.

Seriously.. Is it now safe for the kids to canoe by Bear Island? Is the NWZ finally a place of peaceful, slow-moving boats? How about that arshol that went zipping by your place BI, is he gone? I hardly see any boats this summer, only rain and wind.

Things are certainly quieter. However I credit economy and weather. Limits may be a distant third.

The zip guy went by late last Friday.

Maybe the can put down water spikes for the Zip Guy :D

He certainly is persistent.

Man oh man things are definitely quieter! WOW! I am in agreement that the weather #1 Economy #2 have had a profound impact on this season. I have to say though I really feel for the small business owners. How have you been faring?

Doing very well thank you, business is only down 6% from last year. How about you?

Among Some Things, Things Are Normal...
 

Nope. I'll confirm that BI has consistently stated his previous statement.

And, on Winnipesaukee, there's only about 300 of 'em, right? :rolleye2:

Not quite:

Photos 1 and 2, below)

I haven't witnessed anything like this wake since one snapped my BIL's 23-foot monohull sailboat's ½" nylon dock line; fortunately, a visitor had his camera handy and photographed "The Incoming Wake". (And the soaked aftermath :().

We never saw the boat! :eek:

Photo 3, below)

As to erosion, a forum member (thank you) sent me this third shot before the structure collapses altogether through erosion.

Well the how have you been faring was a general all call to all the small business owners out there. However, I am glad to hear you have not been impacted as terribly as one might suspect in this economy. As for me, teaching is a pretty safe career financially speaking. No big bonuses or raises but when the economy tanks it's usually the new teachers (under 3 years) that take the hit. The tenured teachers usually hang on to their jobs.

Just the opposite
 

In the private sector, profit-motive dictate that Sr Management and those that have been on board for years take the fall. They transfer the responisibility to those who make less money.

Bottom line. There is less money to spend. Business suffers. Tax base suffers. The public sector actually lay off more than they should because they have to budget the money for the higher paid employees.

OK now,this lovefest has to stop. :laugh: It appears both sides don't seem to have an exposed nerve as was present last year. Hello there. How are you? Very good sir. Thank you for asking. My pleasure. :D

Webmaster will be please.....
 

That the opposing sides have made amend and that we all agree on one common enemy. Caption Bonehead. :cheers:

Good to see them
 

2 weeks ago I saw an orange Fountain about a mile off Rattlesnake doing about 80.

All I could think of is a T-shirt from the late 70s.

I found the picture

I am not saying this is the Last Act.

Sorry, I had to cencor it a bit.

Doesn't look much like a GFBL wake APS, nor a sailboat :rolleye2:

I know full well wakes and erosion have not been eradicated, just a funny. Large cruiser, plowing boats.

:laugh::laugh:
Yeah nothin really left to argue about. It's all a moot point now so we can resort to the small talk. Unless B.I. wants to go and tell me that the weather has been great this summer... then the gloves come off!!

Could not agree more, being that the one thing in common is a love of boating (the others well....). Being divided is the first step to allowing people to disrupt the things you love to do.

Being a hunter we have a split currently between free range hunting and high fence compound hunting. Either way if we allow ourselves to divide on the issue the anti-hunting crowd gets a strong hold on their position to disrupt hunting in general.

Lets focus on the things we have in common and remember "gooooze fraaaaba"

erosion
 

This erosion was more likely caused by the Airport redevelopment construction on Wolfeboro Neck a few years ago. This started happening three years ago and at least four houses have needed to rebuild there waterfront.
The EPA is fully involved and permitting has taken a while for permission to rebuild the waterfront and save the home. Never mind how much it is costing the home owners.

And here it is ...
 

FWIW ....

Just got on plane as it headed past Sandy Pt.

She will be back this weekend and the rest of the season, just needed some AC work and finishes.

That is one gorgeous boat!!!!!! Would like to see her in person running the lake.... I have been sent dock side for the rest of the season :( .. engine problems....

Having a full rebuild and perhaps even a new paint job!!!!!

See you out there next year. :D

Oh No :eek: One of the many reasons I haven't been involved in that hobby, too rich for my cheapskate blood. One of the few boats I saw that would allow for a sane single-engine setup was the Baja 278 Performance. All I wanted was a decent sized cabin, and a dependable engine/drive combo. No blowers, no Mercury racing engines, no $20k refreshes :eek: About the only livable one I've seen was a Formula I couldn't afford, and a Chap 275 with a big block I didn't act fast enough on. If I can do 40 to 50mph in big waves and not break a rib, I'm pretty much entertained :D

One thing many newcomers might not realize. My history on Winni dates back to circa 1963 or 1964. There was a reason that many boaters started buying the bigger Cigs and Scarabs and Formulas. Cruiser wakes.

Yup... took me totally off guard.. Blew most everything on the boat then ran into this.. Looks like a total rebuild and thank heavens I have awesome friends that can do it for a lot less then if I brought it to a shop and said "fix it"... Only downside is I have to bring her to Virginia to have it done...... However another nice side is it will get stored down there and their weather is much less harsh then ours. So the temp won't drop as low. If you winterize correctly it shouldn't be a problem but I still like the idea of a much less minimum temp over the winter.

You make a good point on the cruiser wakes.. Another item most people do not realize, just because they don't have the experience, is these performance boats handle waves, wakes, chop etc very differently then the normal runabouts you see on the lake. My boat (which is catagorized as a very small GFB) can cruise very comfortably at 50 - 55mph and it feels like you are going 30. Do to its very deep V it cuts wakes as if they werent there. Many other boats would be totally out of control where in my situation you can put a coke on the dash and it wouldn't even move...

White 53
 

I have seen that boat the last two weekends once at braun bay and last weekend pulling into the NASWA. What kind of boat is it? Looks like a Ferrari on water lol

Hard to guess by the photo.. My initial thought based on the cockpit lines is a Outerlimits. It doesn't have the rear side scoops that would lead me to believe it to be a Nortech. Again hard to determine. Two things for certain: Staggered Engines for one and two: that is one Bad A$$ boat!

its a 51 outerlimits prob has twin 1075s.... only have bits and pieces about the boat.

Its an Outerlimits GTX

new 52 Sl outerlimits

52 Outer Limits GTX.... and its got a few more horses than that! ;)

Woodsy

Best time to buy a used Deep V
 

I picked up an '88 F-223 LS with 454 Magnum on EBay last year for $4000. Lately I have seen boats on Craigslist from marinas that are 'giving' away boats for the price of the storage fees owed. If you want your dream boat I would start looking at thes two sites.

Check out this site. It will make it a bit easier searching for your boat.

http://www.jaxed.com/

I've actually thought about some of the older boats as deals, but I lack any real mechanical knowledge to deal with broken :rolleye2:

Plus, as anyone that currently owns a fairly new boat knows, it's almost impossible to get rid of what you have.

BTW, what the heck is that site you linked?

Actually it is an Outerlimits 52 SV MONO hull, with programable Chief 605 blocks and Merc. VI drives.

It looks to me as a GTX 51

Correct linx to the boat search engine:
http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cgi?cat=cpboat

Sorry.

I have an excellent mechanic that will survey the boat for me. I have a clause in the bill of sale, that the sale is subject to a successful survey before final payment. Which is negotiated.

Yes it is almost impossible, yet I had the old boat on Craigslist sold within 7 days to a guy on the Cape. The boat was a classic 'Liberator'.

No Stumps—no trees...
 

I don't understand how "unpaving" the airport's runway could have affected those homes. There was more runoff when the paved runway was in place—a huge "impermeable surface". However, one noisy homeowner with a noisy sportscar insisted that the dirt road that runs directly behind those homes got a "pave-over". :rolleye1:

(An impermeable surface right there). :rolleye2:

Erosion works both ways. Runoff moves soil downhill towards the lake, then wakes from oversized boats chew away at the lowest layers of shoreline soil. Uphill soil fills that void through rain.

Also, note the two large-diameter PVC pipes draining runoff that's accumulated under the house to the edges of the lot. (And that there are no stumps or trees in front of the house).

BTW I: That concrete base repair in the lakefront photo is also subject to eventually falling into the lake—an example?

Parking was built behind a cottage in a nearby small lot. (That lot was made into a "micro-lot" by the spec-builder: the two homes share a well and a leachfield: worse yet, the "micro-lot" has a huge driveway easement leading to our latest spec-built McMansion).

Shortly after construction, that relatively tiny new space has caused two large trees to die—increasing erosion around that space—and the tiny new parking area is sliding towards the lake.

As you can see in the below photograph, the blocks are no longer aligned after just two years. I haven't looked at it this year. :look:

BTW II:
A week later, the "unseen boat" returned leaving a similar wake: It was an "Express Cruiser".

Wow!!!. I was impressed with all the performance boats out on the lake this Memorial day weekend!!! Lots of nice sounding twin V-8's that bring the lake alive with excitement . Beautiful boats with beautiful sounds. I am glad the tradition continues.

I was thinking the same thing. Spent a couple hours Sunday docked in Meredith and there were over 20 Performance Boats there, coming and going etc.

Saw quite a few in Paugus Bay as well, but that is no big surprise.

I do love the rumble of a V8. I have video of my Performance Boat at idle so I can listen to it in the winter when I have the boat blues...:D

During the week
 

I am fortunate to do my 'performance boating' during the week. When there is little boneheads activities. A number of us are planning on spending a weekend or two up at Sebago and or Mooshead Lake in Maine. Not so crowded.