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OCDACTIVE 10-28-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 110313)
When I bought my boat in VA, The previous owner painted the boat with automotive paint. (He was a body repairman) The paint is very fragile. It was cracking, chipping and peeling everywhere! Last year, I had the boat stripped to it's gel coat and repainted with IMRON. Much more durable and expensive! After two summers, it survived very well.
Just thought I let you know my experience about paint.
You can use a gel coat but it is wicked expensive!

I have heard those stories as well and know to be VERY very careful who does it...

Same reason you never let an auto mechanic work on your boat!

elchase 10-28-2009 06:54 PM

A whole family was killed in this one;
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/...y_say_goodbye/

DEJ 10-28-2009 07:01 PM

I agree OCD. Lot of money one can spend and get ripped off if not careful.

fatlazyless 10-28-2009 07:04 PM

Post #115 is all about a California lake, night time collision between a motorboat going 50-60-mph, driven by a local county deputy sheriff sergeant, off-duty, and a sailboat resulting in the death of a women who was the chief investigator for the California Dental Board.

...her dying words....."oh please....getting three defective root canals all at once, would have been less painfull than death by a four-bladed stainless propeller, even without the novacain"......(sorry-couldn't resist....my bad)


...and don't-ya-know....who gets indicted?......not the sergeant......but the sailboat tiller-man for supposed operat'n with no navigation lights.....a claim disputed by several witnesses.....read all about it in #115........verrrrry interesting....

Pineedles 10-28-2009 07:11 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the education Props to you!

OCDACTIVE 10-28-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles (Post 110321)
Hey guys, thanks for the education Props to you!

sorry if we got a little off topic but the thread was originally in the boating thread when originally made then it went off subject and it was locked down when SL's weren't being discussed. It was reopened here.

Some trolling may try to take it off track but you have to see past that...

I have learned SO much from forums on different boating aspects it is amazing.

PS: the ignore button really makes it a much more pleasant experience here.

DEJ 10-28-2009 07:17 PM

I love the ignore function this site offers.

OCDACTIVE 10-28-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DEJ (Post 110317)
I agree OCD. Lot of money one can spend and get ripped off if not careful.

in all seriousness it may not be even be intentional... Many times they build the engine correctly to Auto standards. But they are completely opposite especially from a compression stand point.

Keep in mind a car or truck runs at 2000 - 3000 normally where boats are 3000 to 5000 depending.. Alot more torque and hardship on the engine.

It needs to be compensated for.

BroadHopper 10-28-2009 07:28 PM

Boat vs. Auto
 
A boat is running under constant load. Much like a car running on a hill. So durability and torque is an issue. Most blocks are truck blocks and valve timing is more for torque. I can go on and on.

chipj29 10-29-2009 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110260)
Seems I'm the only one staying on topic today...this is the Anti Speed Limit thread, no? Let's move the engine/prop talk over to the Boating threads and leave this thread to discussion of the dangers of high speed boating.

This high speed collision had four deaths. The driver was going so fast at night that he didn't even see the anchored barge he smashed into. Wouldn't it have been a coincidence if that barge had been named "Eagle Island" or "Diamond Island"? I bet he coudl have stopped in time if he was only going 25;
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008...e/2008_17.aspx

Actually, the topic of this thread is "new boat...see you out there". And that is what is being discussed.
Nice try, but thanks for playing.

And to think you don't consider yourself to be a troll.

elchase 10-29-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chipj29 (Post 110352)
Actually, the topic of this thread is "new boat...see you out there". And that is what is being discussed.

But the title of the section is "Speed Limits". There is a "Boating" section to talk about new boats. This section is to talk about speed limits and things related. The reason this thread was started in this section is obvious...and therein lies the trolling.

Here's one in which a guy plowed into a pylon at 70MPH;
http://www.theleader.com.au/news/loc...4.aspx?src=rss

ouch.

jmen24 10-29-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110356)
But the title of the section is "Speed Limits". There is a "Boating" section to talk about new boats. This section is to talk about speed limits and things related. The reason this thread was started in this section is obvious...and therein lies the trolling.

But if your memory was as good as you think it is, then you would remember that this thread was started in the Boating section. It was moved to the Speed Limit Sub-forum after it got off track, and understandably so, if this was my boat I would be talking about how fast I would like to go with it as well.

elchase 10-29-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jmen24 (Post 110361)
But if your memory was as good as you think it is, then you would remember that this thread was started in the Boating section. It was moved to the Speed Limit Sub-forum after it got off track, and understandably so, if this was my boat I would be talking about how fast I would like to go with it as well.

It is in the Speed Limit section now. You guys turned it into a speed limit bashing thread so it got moved. Go back and start a new thread about props and new boats in the Boating section and stay on topic and it won't get moved and I won't take part.

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jmen24 (Post 110361)
But if your memory was as good as you think it is, then you would remember that this thread was started in the Boating section. It was moved to the Speed Limit Sub-forum after it got off track, and understandably so, if this was my boat I would be talking about how fast I would like to go with it as well.


Thanks Jmen24... I appreciate it but it is best not even to bother. Most everything he writes now is blocked by most of us so we don't even know or care what he is saying. You may want to do the same.

Thanks for the support. I really am excited about the boat. Saved for 4 years and worked very very hard to get the one I wanted. It was a shame it only lasted 12 hours last season but it gave me a good excuse to save for upgrades and gas for next season.

I am hoping to set up a meeting some weekend so that all of us can meet face to face and maybe do some runs up and down the lake. I am always up for giving rides if you are interested.

Take care!

jmen24 10-29-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110362)
It is in the Speed Limit section now. You guys turned it into a speed limit bashing thread so it got moved. Go back and start a new thread about props and new boats in the Boating section and stay on topic and it won't get moved and I won't take part.

Let the guy talk about his boat, that was the original intent of this thread. You started a thread on sailing and based on the number of people ignoring you, you would be able to talk to yourself till you are blue in the face about something you enjoy without anyone bothering you.

If OCD wants to discuss props for his boat in the thread he started about his boat than let him. We are not in high school anymore, it is time to grow up.

I am taking my own advice, the button has been pushed!

Ryan 10-29-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110273)
Two killed in this high-speed crash;
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...ision-in-Maine

It amazes me how many of these there have been once one looks for them. There are literally dozens of high-speed fatal boating accidents every year. They must be one of those stories that has become so common that the news barely mentions them in passing now. I could probably post another one every five minutes for the next three months if I wanted to stay logged on that long. Given the number of them, it's amazing that we didn't have on eon Winnipesaukee in over a year...oh ya...we had a speed limit.

How did the speed limit not work here?????

And how did the Maine Legislature shoot down the proposed speed limit after the Long Lake conviction?

elchase 10-29-2009 08:50 AM

Here's one where a formula "traveling at a high rate of speed" crashed and killed two people;

http://www.newstimes.com/brookfield/ci_9929801

Ryan 10-29-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110368)
Here's one where a formula "traveling at a high rate of speed" crashed and killed two people;

http://www.newstimes.com/brookfield/ci_9929801

Hmmmmm....didn't I just post that above. Doesn't help your cause.

A lake with a Speed Limit, and there was a boat crash with a fatality? :eek:

Let me guess, a speed limit doesn't stop ALL high speed crashes???? Maybe he was drinking....

sunset on the dock 10-29-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 110369)
Hmmmmm....didn't I just post that above. Doesn't help your cause.

A lake with a Speed Limit, and there was a boat crash with a fatality? :eek:

Let me guess, a speed limit doesn't stop ALL high speed crashes???? Maybe he was drinking....

Don't know about you but I don't want all highway speed limits repealed just because a drunk may not obey them. BTW, cops often pick up the DUI's because they're being too careful to obey the speed limit and going significantly below the speed limit.

elchase 10-29-2009 09:19 AM

So a drunk boater going too fast crashes and kills two people and this somehow makes the argument that boats should be able to go as fast as they want? Should CT's BUI law be repealed too, since he didn't obey that? At least now they can throw the book at him. Had there been no BUI or SL laws, maybe he would have walked. But maybe that is what some of you guys are really concerned about....getting off after you've killed someone.

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 09:52 AM

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Having second thoughts of putting in the flat compass in the dash. They don't make a size that will match and will have to put a fitting or housing in the open hole for it to fit.

I already have a depth gauge. so if you guys have a second any thoughts as to what other gauge would work here? I think I have everything covered but am definately up for suggestions.

Threw the last picture in as a fond memory. :D

Ryan 10-29-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110371)
So a drunk boater going too fast crashes and kills two people and this somehow makes the argument that boats should be able to go as fast as they want? Should CT's BUI law be repealed too, since he didn't obey that? At least now they can throw the book at him. Had there been no BUI or SL laws, maybe he would have walked. But maybe that is what some of you guys are really concerned about....getting off after you've killed someone.

Sorry, you cannot have it both ways.

hazelnut 10-29-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elchase (Post 110368)
Here's one where a formula "traveling at a high rate of speed" crashed and killed two people;

http://www.newstimes.com/brookfield/ci_9929801

2008 - Connecticut

elchase 10-29-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 110381)
Sorry, you cannot have it both ways.

It is you that cannot have it both ways. I only want it one way. I want it just like last summer from now on.

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Originally Posted by hazelnut (Post 110387)
2008 - Connecticut

So what? 9-11 was in NY, does that mean it is not of interest to Granite Staters? Are the people in NH constructed differently?

One dead in this one;
http://www.live5news.com/Global/story.asp?S=11280141

DEJ 10-29-2009 10:48 AM

Hnut, use the ignore function, it works great. :)

elchase 10-29-2009 10:49 AM

Here's another fatality in NJ;
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...ounts_key.html

DoTheMath 10-29-2009 10:52 AM

Ignore?
 
Hmmm... I like that idea, show me the way people, show me the way! ;)

DoTheMath 10-29-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 110314)
I have heard those stories as well and know to be VERY very careful who does it...

Same reason you never let an auto mechanic work on your boat!

OCD - You should have Pat do it for you, it's 1/2 way there now, so might as well tow it the rest of the way down and get it done right. You know he'll treat you right on the price and do an amazing job! Just keep it classy and "resellable" cuz you know you'll be buying a 33' in a few years and you don't want to have the same (potential) issue that SL had - although I personally loved his paint job!

As for the water pressure gauge, where is the sender located? I used to install them up by the t-stat housing, or down low in the block and run a full mechanical gauge - so water line all the way from sender to the dash, don't do a mechanical / electric, not as accurate or reliable.

For the empty hole, do you have a clock? How about oil temp? Or drive lube temp? There are a bunch of valuable gauges you can install - the more info the better!

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DoTheMath (Post 110395)
Hmmm... I like that idea, show me the way people, show me the way! ;)

No problem. I have been getting this same request thru my PM's so I might as well tell everyone:

Go to: User CP - at the top of your screen
Left side Go to: Edit Ignore list
Enter: el.... oops I mean the person you want to ignore.

You will no longer get notified of the posts and they do not appear (Great function)

only thing you see is if it is copied from another user.

Happy Un-trolling.

elchase 10-29-2009 11:03 AM

Another one in FL takes the life of another 17 yr old girl. The boat entered the harbor "at a high rate of speed," officials said;
http://www.allbusiness.com/safety-ac...3127527-1.html

We should go back to letting cowboys like this decide how fast they want to boat, eh? Then we can start having deadly accidents like these again. (he said facetiously)

BroadHopper 10-29-2009 11:03 AM

Ignore Function
 
Go into the person's profile and click on the ignore function. You won't be able to see his posts but you will be able to see his quotes in those replies of people who are not in the ignore list.

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoTheMath (Post 110397)
OCD - You should have Pat do it for you, it's 1/2 way there now, so might as well tow it the rest of the way down and get it done right. You know he'll treat you right on the price and do an amazing job! Just keep it classy and "resellable" cuz you know you'll be buying a 33' in a few years and you don't want to have the same (potential) issue that SL had - although I personally loved his paint job!

As for the water pressure gauge, where is the sender located? I used to install them up by the t-stat housing, or down low in the block and run a full mechanical gauge - so water line all the way from sender to the dash, don't do a mechanical / electric, not as accurate or reliable.

For the empty hole, do you have a clock? How about oil temp? Or drive lube temp? There are a bunch of valuable gauges you can install - the more info the better!

I think I may just end up putting the OCD on the sides with the AT Oval / logo on the back.. It is easy enough for someone to paint over.. but honestly this is my "step up" boat. I originally was going for the 25 and someone said I would want the 28 years to come. So I waited and did my inital step up..

My wife would kill me if I ever wanted to go bigger. Plus on the logistical side I don't have the huge $$$$ to do that..... (opposed to some peoples thoughts we are not all 200K trust fund babies).. So I am at my limit especially with a young son and who knows when the second will come.

As far at the gauges and senders................ You and I are gonna have to hang out! Great ideas.. boat is in VA so I don't know where the sender is coming from. I will ask the guy rebuilding to take a look before I start replacing expensive gauges.

elchase 10-29-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 110398)
You will no longer get notified of the posts and they do not appear (Great function)

But it's not the eight of you that I am posting this stuff for anyway. I just want the rest of the readership to understand how widespread this carnage is and how lucky we are to have ended it (fingers crossed) in NH. You eight are never going to appreciate the danger in what you do, but I'm showing everyone else what is going on all around us. And it's very hard for me to accept that OCD is not peeking anyway. Maybe even he will be converted once he sees how massive this problem is that already took the life of my dear friend.

I was going to keep posting these accident reports every few minutes; one after the next. There are enough to do this for months, but I've just been put on a five posts per day limit, so I'll only be able to post five times a day now. At that rate, I'll be able to post pretty much for ever, because there are probably more that five fatal high speed accidents every day. Don't know why anyone who boats would not want to know how common this problem is and how dangerous high-speed boating is.

DoTheMath 10-29-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 110400)
Go into the person's profile and click on the ignore function. You won't be able to see his posts but you will be able to see his quotes in those replies of people who are not in the ignore list.


Thank you! :cool:

Seeker 10-29-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DEJ (Post 110324)
I love the ignore function this site offers.

Man, I didn't know it existed. Thank you very much.

BroadHopper 10-29-2009 11:11 AM

Gallons per hour.
 
How about a Flowmeter? With gas prices going up, it is important that you know your GPH at any rpm.

http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/ser...sid=14&catid=2

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeker (Post 110405)
Man, I didn't know it existed. Thank you very much.


I know. Someone PM'd me the info a little while ago.. It just wasn't worth dealing with anymore.. It has made the forums enjoyable again. Don't get me wrong I like a spirted argument and enjoy discussing topics, even when they get heated. There are just those who have motives to get the threads shut down and pretty much will say anything to move their agenda along. So again that function helps weed that unpleasant aspect out.

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 110408)
How about a Flowmeter? With gas prices going up, it is important that you know your GPH at any rpm.

http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/ser...sid=14&catid=2

OH GOD NO!! I don't even want to calculate that.... thanks though.

I actually heard a salesman say to a first time person purchasing a boat when they asked what MPG do you get? He responded: If you ask that question you shouldn't be buying a boat. Wow was he right.. LOL

Seeker 10-29-2009 11:25 AM

New TIDF guage
 
OCD, I think they make a TIDF (Troll Identification and Direction Finder gauge) that will fit right in a 2 1/8 in hole. :rolleye2:

OCDACTIVE 10-29-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeker (Post 110416)
OCD, I think they make a TIDF (Troll Identification and Direction Finder gauge) that will fit right in a 2 1/8 in hole. :rolleye2:


LMAO!!!! I literally just choked on goldfish.. Thanks I needed that...

However you should patent that idea quickly.. I think there would be huge market for those. You could put your advertisement at the top of the page.:D


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