Just to be fair, here's the Formula retail price(s) for a 2011 270BR:

http://www.formulaboats.com/bowrider...spx?id=1304227

Notice all the different options available. IMO, feeble attempts to campare boat prices without even acknowleging engine and accessory options is foolhearted.

Feeble.....is that a word the wiggles use?
 

Yankee, in your expert opinion, would you agree that a boat with "zero" appointments (which is not the case) offered at $89k is a good start compared to the retail base price for a 270BR with a 350mag at $119k?

Feeble......give me a break.

When was the last time you saw any dealer asking full retail for a boat? I can't say that I ever have...

Lakeport Landing
 

Just a tip. Watch the Lakeport Landing Marina website and street signage. There is a huge announcement coming in the next few weeks that changes everything!! After reading this thread it should silence you doubters. Cheers!!

Love it...
 

Gotta love these...really...my favorite posts on Winni.com.
Here we have a first time poster...TELLING US NOTHING!
He has a secret (isn't that special) but...he won't disclose it. So his post tells us??????????????? NOTHING.
He logged in, made a member ID, to say he has info, but won't disclose it.
Just don't get it.....

new hotel
 

Hope they sold the business .
I think Donald Trump bought it and he will build a trump tower with docks thats why he is in NH again.

Really?
 

I am going to right down and get in line...don't want to be last in line when the news breaks. :D

If you have news...fine. Teasers are amateurish...you are just going to get backlash.

Jetskier:cool:

My guess is they landed a new line, maybe Fountain/Donzi/Baja.

Or maybe someone like Cruisers Yachts or Tiara, both could compete with the Formula cruiser line.

I hope it's not some boutique performance vendor.

Or they could go totally the other way with Silverton, a Carver competitor, not represented on the lake.

Or maybe Bentley Boy chose to drive a different car today...:D

I think a website update may be in order...

"We are proud to be the exclusive Formula boat dealer in the Lake Region of New Hampshire."

Really?

What could be so earth shattering?
 

- Maybe Lake-port Landing will build a nice restaurant on the water where Burger King is?
- Or perhaps they bought Surf Coaster and will reopen this summer?
- Maybe they are leveraging all their assets tied up in real estate and floor models to sponsor a revitalization of the Weirs Beach area?

This would be a big surprise. News that they are carrying a new line of boats, in an economy where people can't afford to gas them up, does nothing for me.

I could careless if they close the marina.

Its prob good that they lost formula as i believe formula sells factory direct (last hope before going belly up, and hanging your dealer network out to dry). Maybe they will pick up a pontoon line, or another sport boat line. Either way maybe tough with Irwin Marina right next door selling Sea Ray and Those new Berkshire pontoon boats. Best of luck to whatever they do as they are great people over at LL.

http://www.lakeportlanding.com/default.asp

Took me all day ;)

No wake my friend, the slow are more blessed, I have been told! :)

T__________________

lake port owns the train bridge. They paid to have it put in years a go so the could sell the bigger PC boats. What if they only open and close it for there costmers? As far as the rail road is consurend they would just asum have it down all the time.

POST #1: Welcome aboard New Guy: OMG......................What is THIS about ..? :look: NB

Who else wants to go to that 3 acres of the lake?

The bridge
 

JAY336: Have you lost it or are you yet another on this thread that speculates on what they think they know??

Fact: LLM does not own the train bridge. After getting the necessary permits from the state, LLM paid for the engineering, equipment, etc. to make the existing fixed track into an opening bridge.

Fact: The railroad, rightly so, controls the opening and closing of that bridge according to its own needs. During the boating months the bridge is always open until the railroad closes it occasionally for various reasons. LLM maintains at its own expense the bridge's equipment and operating systems.

Thank you Bentley Boy for clearing this up. The statement that LLM owned the bridge seemed to be a little bit far fetched. Most people know that the state controls the right of ways for RR and NO individual can own or control parts of the RR for their own personal gain. The gain is for the public interest.

LLM and it's bridge (???)
 

Admittedly I am new to this forum but I have vacationed on the waters of Winnipesaukee for many years and am quite familiar with many of the local marina's operations and their operators. After reading this thread for the first time I could not believe how much misinformation and conjecture there has been regarding the Formula boat line, PBM and LLM. Frankly some of the posts here are incredible in their inaccuracy and certainly not fair especially to both Formula and LLM. Ms. Blizzard was not the problem she has been made out to be. The economy is the real villian as it has been throughout the entire marine, RV, etc. recreational industries. Realize that very few marinas on Winni maintain the dealer status they had five years ago with manufacturers.

Now the Lakeport railroad bridge is being used as a tool against LLM. Let the record show it took LLM years to get permits from the state to do a project that cost LLM hundreds of thousands of dollars. That project opened up an area of the lake that had been previously inaccessible to some larger boats. Certainly PBM benefited without any expense to them.

...was PBM even in biz when the RR thing came to pass..?...and what IS the implication you're making..?..PBM will now be held hostage by LLM..?...spit it out men...lol...or obfuscate...I don't care..it's all bologna here...:laugh:

Pbm
 

There was another marina previously in the current PBM location. In fact the owners of PBM and LLM are on good terms as are most marinas on the big lake. To bring you up to speed, read my earlier post. You may also want to read other posts from people like Bentley Boy who seem to know what has been really going on. Get informed.

...I AM informed...which is why I posted what I did...BB talks like a lawyer, so I'll "believe" some of what he says.:D...(which, so far, has been entertaining, educational, and amusing)...you 1st post guys are usually troublemakers.:laugh:...incredibly inaccurate, unfair, or totally wrong is what posts like this thrive on...lol...carry on...:cool:

The bridge(???)
 

You are quite amusing but we will soon see who knows what. You are right, Bentley Boy does act like a lawyer:laugh: There have been no problems in the twenty plus years the bridge has been there. Cheers!!

Welcome to the Forum New Guy. :D NB

OH Wait: Maybe I should have said.... Welcome aboard Cowboy.:D :D

The Lakeport RR bridge
 

An English cowboy?? I think not unless we are herding Jaguars on horse back. Not likely is it?? Cheers!!

LLM Customers?
 

I'd be interested to know if anyone who's posted on this thread is actually, currently a LLM customer?

Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
 

Bentley Boy is an employee at Lake-port Landing. Outside of being a wise guy, he does have the inside scoop.

More of the same
 

Once again, more unfounded speculation on this thread!! I, Bentley Boy, am not and never have been a Lakeport Landing Marina employee. I do have though a long time familiarity of the marine industry in N.H. Nice try though!!

My guess is that Bentley Boy used to be a fry cook at the Burger King and now passes his time hanging out at different marinas. ha ha ha :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Just having some fun BB. This thread is hilarious with speculation and misinformation.

I stand corrected
 

Your just a wise-guy.

And yet more ....
 

Sig: You are untypically correct, I am a very wise guy!!:cool:

...wize guyz keep thingz interezting...:D...

BB, since you are soooo WISE, why don't you inform us as to what is happening over at LLM and the BIG announcement that is coming up. Show us that you are in the know. :laugh::laugh:

Llm
 

I am sorry but I have been sworn to secrecy on this. I am not sure when the open house and the announcements will come but Memorial Day weekend would be my guess. The marine industry's model year changes, etc. usually occur in early July so I believe announcements will be made to coincide with that event.

I truly believe this will put to rest any question that LLM is not still considered an extremely desirable dealer to high line boat manufacturers and suppliers. LLM has an unparalleled reputation with its customers and the manufacturers they have represented. I guess that explains their great and continuing earned success. In all my years I have seen many excellent marina operations but, for more than thirty years, LLM still stands amongst the very best. But you do not need to believe me, just ask their customers and especially those that have been so loyal to LLM for decades. Actions always speak louder than words. (And do not believe everything you read - especially here.)

I am a customer of Lakeport Landing, and everything BB says in this post is absolutely accurate in my opinion. Their service and employees are the best in the business.

I have had excellent experiences with Lakeport Landing, going back to the eighties. Always treated great, and their service has been great. I would buy another boat from them without a doubt.
Just my opinion, not looking to stir the pot.

Why is this thread so inactive all of a sudden?? The silence is deafening. I was truly enjoying all the banter. Oh well. Cheers!!

I think its the fact that none of us could give a crap and think that people hiding their true relationships to LLM are a joke. I wasn't teasted/enticed in the slightest. I have no issues with the dealership, as a matter of fact I have only even been on their lot once. I spend my money elsewhere because I have chosen to buy other brands. I have never been to PBM, no reason just never been there. Both dealers are out of my way and don't have anything I need.

I could care lesss if they keep or lose Formula (although all things considered there is plenty of negative press for Formula out of this), could care less as to who owns/controls the bridge, and could care less if they get another line. None of these things will have any effect on my boating. My only gripe from the start has to do with the incident and people claiming that it was not a certain persons fault to any extent. In this case it is probably pointed more at people making claims like this.

I couldn't agree more
 

Everyone is capable of reading between the lines and seeing the true story.;)

Codeman671: Forgive me, but you are a PHONEY. I challenge anyone who reads or contributes to this thread to review your prior posts and prove otherwise. Coldman671 you are interested only in damaging someone's reputation or altering the facts. But, when proven wrong, which has happened all too frequently, you immediately proclaim it was a non issue. For example, remember the GPS debate Coldman??

And you also continue to imply that I have misled all of you in how I gained my in-depth knowledge of this matter. Let us try this again Coldman. I am involved within the N.H. marine industry which, despite what you may want to believe, is a close group that works together. We support each other largely because of the seasonality of New England summers. We share information in many areas. My only interest in this matter is that the facts be presented accurately and fairly so as to protect us from people like you.

Ms. Blizzard was found guilty based on the evidence that the state presented. She made some errors in judgement but, on the whole, I would gladly let her pilot on any boat I might be on.

Hope you will spend your idle time more positively in the future Coldman. Otherwise, you will remain a hopeless arm chair PHONEY.