I am jealous.... I have friend on the arm of Rattlesnake and for the races we used to climb the mountain to see the entire field... It was fun but you couldn't see anything up close obviously. Your vantage point must have been AWESOME!

Powerboat Races Must Have Been Cool!
 

The races must have been very cool from our spot. Sadly they stopped just before we arrived. :emb:

The closest I've come to a race our various poker runs. This year it was quite fantastic seeing so many boats coming down The Broads all at once. I snapped a few pictures, but didn't the best vantage point - need to get higher next time. :D

As far as the 45 mph speed limit goes this year, it seems that many of us, especially me, cannot judge what 45 mph looks like. Case in point; just after the Dozi Poker Run, a thread popped up; Where was the Marine Patrol? Lots of people thought they were exceeding the speed limit, but they weren't. Scroll down to post 11 - they were all traveling at 45 mph.

Don’t get me wrong, there are definitely some speeders out there, but I don't think there's as many as perceived. I definitely believe there is far less speeders on the lake than there are captain boneheads. Is there law of common sense? :laugh:

Well Rattlesnake Gal... If the poker run is not held the same time as last year, and I don't have a full boat you are welcome to join me in mine... I can't guarentee it won't break the barrier but will do my best :D

This boat is AWESOME!!!!!!

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...1-09_045-2.jpg


It is dead quiet and barely creates a wake...

He made me feel real small and real slow a few weeks back...

Of course we were well under the 45mph speed limit :devil:

Yes definately under 45 with only the last 1/6 of the boat in the water... :eek::D

Exactly!!!

Aha
 

I knew it could be done right. OCD, does that boat have some sort of proper muffler systems on it? I'd like to find out.

Speaking of Rattlesnake...
 

I only discovered the event was taking place because my cottage began shaking. :eek:

They were very cool, but it was more of a parade than "a race", and were quite distant from "your" side of Rattlesnake Island. To watch, I chose NOT to anchor, but floated next to a one anchored boat and a Lake amphibian aircraft. :coolsm:

The very best vantage point is where I snapped a few pictures four years ago—stopped—and right in the middle of 'em! :cool:

I had taken my smallest powerboat, and elected to row the ¼-mile home for the exercise. The MP made a stop—of me! :confused: :o :confused: :eek2:

I'd agree. Those who speak of "rampant" sales of properties around the lake need to look again at those properties most effected by the SL.

Right in the middle of the lake—Rattlesnake Island—has many fewer "For Sale" signs than in previous years. :look:

Aps
 

APS,

I am not sure why there are fewer “For Sale” signs on Rattlesnake, but I do know for sure…The speed limit is NOT the reason.

They must have been reading your posts on here... LOL!! :D

J/K

Need for speed
 

As a longtime (49 yrs) user of Winni, and an avid fisherman, the speed limit is bull. And, if you talk to the MP off the record, they think it's a waste of time. Over the years, the biggest issue has been the morons who don't have a clue about boating safety and booze. The best thing that ever happened was the madatory safety training. While it will NEVER save us from all the morons, at least it has educated the majority. The past couple of years on the lake has shown a great improvement, that has nothing to do with the speed limit. By the way, when I'm not trolling for salmon or lakers, I will take a 60mph ride around the lake but it's done safely. The only thing the speed limit does is make people so paranoid that they don't get their boats up on plane and that is tearing appart the shoreline with large wakes. I live in NH and have a home on Alton Bay. It doesn't get much busier than that and the sound of a well tuned "go fast" is great!

And this is related to the speed limit, less performance boats or the lack of offshore powerboat racing? :confused:

Did you ever think that maybe it has to do with the economy and real estate market? Rattlesnake has a history of having a lot of lower priced island properties which make it more affordable for the average consumer. In general there are not a lot of island properties for sale anywhere, far less than a normal season.

The lesser amount of island properties for sale everywhere has NO correlation to your dream that performance boats are the root of all evil and are scaring residents off the lake...

RG and I took a ride around the island Saturday and counted 12 places for sale. I don't have official statistics on what the 10 year average is but this actually seems higher than usual to us.

Speed Limit is a Waste of Resources
 

I have been on the lake in many different ways since 1968. I have looked at the speed limit from my perspective as a boater, waterfront homeowner, condo slip owner, commercial property owner and marina owner.
Nothing that the speed limit has done has changed the lake one bit.
First, remember that the marine patrol did not write one speeding ticket all season.
Second, bear in mind that the economy is so far down that a significant number of boats were never put inthe water and a large number of people cut way back on the amount of boating that they did.
Third, the weather in June and July also had a major impact on the amount of boats on the lake for half the summer. I live on a very open part of the lake and I agree that the lake was very quiet this year, but guess what "it's the economy stupid"
As so many on this forum have said: The boaters who do not abide by all of the other rules (especially safe passage) are the problem. It is too bad that the uninformed and cluless continue to cite the speed limit as some great solution, when the enforcement of it would actually use valuable resources needlessly and create more problems than it solves.
Thankfully, the marine patrol had better things to do this year.

Clarification...
 

Rattlesnake Island's NE shore is the former site of Rattlesnake Island's "measured mile", and is the longest "straight" along Winnipesaukee's shorelines where offenders can get a sense (and the thrill) of top speed operation. Another straight one mile stretch is directly off my shoreline; fortunately, large swim rafts keep most offenders at a distance.

I don't recall seeing Rattlesnake Island's NE shore having any large swim rafts. (At least not for very long! :emb: )

To clarify, there are fewer homes for sale on Rattlesnake Island's Broads-side than in recent years—fewer "official" signs, and fewer "home-made" signs.

The Broads NE shoreline has the largest concentration of offenders in my usual area of fair-weather boating. I'd expect that most islanders who must boat off that shore previously had to look both ways as though they were trying to cross I-93—on foot! :eek:

And your point is???? :confused:

Trying to correlate a smaller amount of properties for sale on Rattlesnake today compared to years past to a newly imposed speed limit is ludicrous. The two have NOTHING in common. If I lived on the broads side of Rattlesnake, speeding boats would be the least of my concerns.

On THE BROADS Side...
 

And the better reason is? :confused: :confused:

For sale signs are down (perhaps by half) on the Broads side of Rattlesnake.

I watch there carefully because I get a charge out of watching wind-driven waves and spray and consider the idea of owning there someday. It can be like living on the exciting ocean—without low tide! :eek: Yet one can enjoy a quick ride to nearly anywhere else on the lake when it's not rough. I scan that shore on nearly every outing, which I've been doing for as long as I've been afloat.

That blue Fountain "fun-boat" only thinks he has the lake to himself. (Check again). :cool:

1) But where would speeding boats NOT be the least of your concerns? :confused:

2) But maybe you're right:

Broad-side Rattlesnake Island residents have very steep shorelines and are unlikely to be victims of collision injury, damage or fatality: plus, Rattlesnake is an easily-seen island.

Nearby Parker Island is small, yet has a disproportionate number of collisions onto it—one involving a fatality.

3) Why are all these names so readily-linked to tragedy among the speed crowd...on the inland-waters we all wish to protect...?

deTourillon
Cody
Colann
Cameron
Rush
Frisbie
Mastronardi
Gibson
Mineo
Littlefield
Blizzard

Yet all we can recall is "Thorndike" when it comes to non-fatal misadventures with Winnipesaukee's performance boats? :confused:

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...76IM000702.JPG

This photo is just one example of serial "Broads" crashes since 2002, has an unknown, un-named "driver", and is not Mr. Thorndike's boat—which is a similar boat that ran onto Parker Island. The scenery includes Mt. Shaw in the background.

Case of Recklessness
 

Accident on the Broads ~ flipped off shore boat. July 3, 2004

A speed limit wouldn't have made a difference in this case. This guy was just being reckless.
The Accident on The Broads can be seen here, scroll down to posts #4 and #6.

For those who haven't been on the Forum long enough, Acres Per Second used to post under madrasahs. :D

Should I show a picture of my kayak or canoe in a similar prone position and what would we deduce from that?

There was also a similar "bow up" picture of an older MFG boat being attended to in aAlton bay that was attributed to a "big wave" in one article.

Thanks to RSG's technical response we can probably show this was a BONEHEAD move......

Well the boat is layed up for the winter....:(

I can report that I operated in a safe manner all season long. I was respectful of my fellow boaters..even those in kayaks and sailboats :D

On occasion I gave my big block Mercruiser a workout while all alone in the broads and even convinced my wife this year that it is safe to do so and the speed limit is not necessary.

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Now I cant wait until the snow and ice so I can blast across the lake at 100mph+ on my sled :banana:


Have a safe winter everyone...

Glad to hear she is away safe and sound for her long slumber. Do you drain the engine? or do you fill with antifreeze?

I guess those in the broads won't be tormented by your rath anymore:eek::laugh:

See you out there next year...

Yes
 

We will be there with you!! My son is chomping at the bit already

Ummmm excuse me but I do believe there are limits for snowmobiles... I am calling the fish and game. Don't you know you will be terrorizing the ice fisherman? This could severly damage their well being and ruin the peace and tranquility! It isn't like you won't see them coming from 3 miles out.... I think I should start a poll that is designed only to come out in my favor because safety may be compromised.. :D:laugh:

Example:

Q: Mr. Smith, have you ever snowmobiled?
A: No
Q: have you ever been to lake winnipesaukee?
A: No
Q: Don't you think traveling over 40 mph in a congested walmart parking lot could be considered dangerous to the general public because you may hit children.
A: Of course
Q: Do you think that this should also apply to snowmobilers on a lake?
A: Yes
Q: So I can assume you would be in favor of speed limits
A: Yes

Thank you for your time.

:laugh::eek::laugh:

Thanks OCD, just inhaled coffee up my nose.:laugh:

I am not sure but I thought there was no speed limit on the lake for sleds. Althought there is a 150 rule for bob-houses..10 mph I think.

[QUOTE=Kracken;110198]I am not sure but I thought there was no speed limit on the lake [QUOTE]

I are you sure? I thought there was a state wide one? My god the chaos this could bring!!!! Lets start a group called the Snowfabs! We can not have this. I can not believe that there is a part of the world that is unregulated. I don't know what we could end up doing with our lives! Anarchy I tell you! Anarchy!!! Thank god there are no penguins! but oh my! what about those seagulls that I see in the winter! or the squirrls! They need protection!

Call the NH house as we speak! :D:laugh::eek:

:laugh:....good laugh...

re my 496HO..it has a closed anti-freeze system

There is a 45 MPH snowmobile speed limit on trails. There is no speed limit on lakes/ponds, with a couple exceptions.

The speed limit on state trails is 45. There is no speed limit on frozen water.

This needs to change.

How can we just let these SnowCowboys ride at unlimited speeds.

I can't believe that nice Senator from Belmont failed to see that this frozen water is unregulated!!!!!!

We need to make the snow/ice of our lake more tranquil and peacefull than it has been in recent years. We need to make sure people on ice skates and flying saucer sleds feel safe without having noisy quater ton machines of death flying by them at speeds not seen since…….

Wait a second, as I was typing this I realized some people might actually think it’s a good idea and start sending letters to the Laconia Sun.

I'm sure that once a few entrepreneurs recognize the highly profitable but yet untapped "winter cowboy" market and start designing ever-faster, ever-louder, and ever-larger snowmobiles to attract them, then when those cowboys start getting sucked into the "need-for-speed" marketing program for these vehicles and start buying them in larger and larger numbers and start operating them (often while drinking) more and more recklessly on the ice during the more crowded winter events, and we have a few fatal accidents, we will then need to start talking about speed limits for them too....of course. It only makes sense that as environments change and risks increase, safety laws need to evolve to keep up. How can anyone with even a modicum of common sense not understand and agree with this logic? Oh wait...
Besides, don't snowmobiles at least have brakes?

Good Call Kracken... Next thing they will do is try to install tolls on trails to service them. :laugh:

Ooops there we go again throwing out ideas that they might actually use...

We have to stop that.. ;)

Boater in fatal crash was traveling at high speed
 

Good thing that accidents like this don't happen on Winnipesaukee anymore since we got the SL;

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/n...1.1501898?qr=1

Kracken.. A friend of mine in alton.... her father just bought a brand new formula. I believe Fastech with twins... I am trying to get the details for you so you can look for him. Hoping to meet up with him a shibleys at some point. you should join us!

I agree with you OCD, tolls on trails are in order!!! :laugh:

Maybe they can set them up in the broads to cut back on the cowboyesq attitude. :eek:

Trolls on Trails? :laugh:

Ooops you said Tolls on trails. I can see it now E-Z Pass for my sled! :D

How about hover crafts and air boats, they can go pretty fast as well, perhaps laws need to be passed to slow them down as well. :D

Careful. they may start timing you between tolls to figure your speed. LOL :eek::laugh:

EZ pass on sleds, now that is a great way to generate revenue for the State.:) Perhaps you should contact the Governor with that suggestion. :D