Don't be sure thos boats aren't pulled around on trailers.... they have Custom Haulers and custom built trailers...But nothing I would call specially designed.. they are far from being shipped like cargo...especially the boats that race in the Factory Classes....

Also why is it that the Racers only came up here for one year.....where people that upset over the race? I thought it was a great weekend and brought alot of business to the area. I had lunch the friday before the races with some of the participants, they were nice curtious and wanted to make sure everyone was having a great time......

LI Relaxin wrote:
Regardless of whether you call a custom hauler specially designed or not, these offshore vessels are not towed behind the family Buick with a destination of Lake Winnipesaukee as APS would have us believe.

LI Relaxin wrote:
I don't know why they didn't come back maybe money? It's an expensive sport, maybe they didn't see the fan support they expected? I didn't hear any complaints about that event. It's a question for one of the folks you had lunch with the Friday before the races.

My point in posting about this is to respond to the APS posts, in which he suddenly changed the terminology of the vessel involved in the debate.

APS has shifted the terminology from Go Fast boats, which are recreational in nature, to Ocean Racers, which are not recreational boats and aren't even on Lake Winnipesaukee!

Get the sides to start talking Ocean Racers, even though there are no Ocean Racers on Lake Winnipesaukee, and it changes the timber of the debate here and in Concord now doesn't it?

Karl Rove would be proud!

I have a question
 

I don't get it. What are you trying to say; that because 2 years ago a boat went through this area at 50mph that the kids in the rowboat are in danger or feel unsafe:confused:

lfm wrote:
I'm thinking that APS is suggesting, no not suggesting but DEMANDING! that no boats with mechanical power be allowed on these waters.

Of course looking at the photo, and given Islander's concern about the contamination of the drinking water supply as horsepower increases, there appears to be a person in the water!

People tend to do things in the water that cause e-coli bacterial contamination of the drinking water supply do they not? That would be why most drinking water supplies ban swimming or any physical contact with the water.

Have you heard any of the Speed limit/OMG the drinking water is at risk crowd suggest no swimming on Lake Winnipesaukee?

Just curious.

APS, this is probably the most lame arguement I have ever seen out of you. Come on, I've come to expect better and, according to the data collected at the six test sites, I doubt there is even one instance of a boat going 70 on the lake especially 20 feet from the shore as the rowboat is if I apply your previous photo measurement standards.:laugh:

You have no real case so now you are taking pictures of rowboats and a swimmer and making things up. Give me a break.

Warp in the Space-Time Continuum on Lake Winni
 

Yup, it sure seems like it.

I said at the start of this thread that this was not a rational discussion and APS once again proves the point. By this logic everyone should be terrified to walk across a street because over the last 2 years thousands of cars have passed over the exact spot going at speeds of 30 MPH or more. If a boat is doing 70 MPH in the Broads, canoeists in Green's Basin better watch out. Oh my Gosh, I just realized the Mt Washington goes through the Broads several times a day, in the exact spot I passed last weekend. :eek: If the rowboat in the picture gets caught in the warp it could run right over the swimmer, maybe not fatal but probably very painful.

What's more dangerous, a boat doing 70 MPH that is nowhere near you (perhaps as far as 2 years away :D ) or 5 boats going 20 MPH 50 feet or less way from you? Since I have rarely seen a boat traveling at 70 MPH on the Lake but run across boats coming too close frequently on the Lake, I have worried more about the people breaking the safe passage/150' rule.

But that was before I knew about APS's Space-Time warp. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :(

Peasant #1: We have found a witch, may we burn her?
Angry Mob: BURN HER! BUUUURN HER!!
Bedevere: How do you know she is a witch?
Peasant #2: She looks like one!
[mob roars in agreement]
Bedevere: Bring her forward.
"Witch": I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch!
Bedevere: But you are dressed as one.
"Witch": They dressed me up like this.
[Witch removes her fake nose and "witch" hat]
Peasant #1: Well, we did do the nose.
Bedevere: The nose?
Peasant #1: And the hat. But she is a witch!
[mob roars in agreement]
Bedevere: Did you dress her up like this?
Angry Mob: NO! NO!
Peasant #1: ... Yes... a bit. But she has got a wart! [Peasant #2 points at her cheek]
Bedevere: What makes you think that she is a witch?
Mr Newt: What, she turned me into a newt!
Bedevere: A newt?
[pause]
Mr Newt: I got better.
Peasant 2: BURN HER ANYWAY!!!!
[mob roars in agreement]
Bedevere: Good! So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant #1: Build a bridge out of her!
Bedevere: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
Peasant #1: Oh yeah.
Bedevere: Tell me, does wood sink in water?
Peasant #2: No, no, it floats. Floats!
Peasant #1: Throw her into the pond!
[mob roars in agreement]
Bedevere: No, no, no. What also floats in water?
Peasant #1: Bread.
Peasant #2: Apples.
Mr Newt: Very small rocks.
Peasant #1: Cider.
Peasant #2: Gravy.
Mr Newt: Cherries.
Peasant #1: Mud.
Peasant #2: Churches! Churches!
Mr Newt: Lead! Lead!
Arthur: [has been silent in the background] A duck.
[pause]
Bedevere: Exactly! So, logically...?
Peasant #1: ...If she weighs the same as a duck... then she's made of wood.
Bedevere: And therefore...?
[pause]
Peasant #2: A WITCH!
[mob roars in agreement]
Peasent #3: Here's a duck.
Bedevere: We shall use my largest scales. [Peasents 2&3 Set the duck and witch on the scale and hold up very large mallets] Remove the supports!
[Having been revealed to weigh the same as a duck, therefore proving her a witch. The crowd goes berserk.]
"Witch": It's a fair cop.
Mr. Newt: BURRRRN HER!

It certainly has turned into a "Witch hunt" alright and the longer it goes on the more rediculous it's getting. People ignoring facts and figures , posting pictures of almost ANTHING and trying to make something out of them that's not there. The more these people keep this up , the worse it makes them look.
I say , let them keep it up till they shoot themselves in the foot and get nothing:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I think it is quite clear what side I am on. I feel that a bass boat is much more dangerous at speed than an "ocean racer" traveling 70mph, and more to themselves than others. The type of boat is not the danger, it is the driver. Your team of fiction writers should stop claiming it is the boats doing the harm and focus on the drivers. A 25' Baja can be driven just as safely as a 25' pontoon, and both could also be a deadly weapon if not handled correctly. Education and enforcement of existing laws is the key to success, instead of creating a useless bill that will not stop 28mph accidents at night from happening.

And for the record, a 25' Outlaw weighs nowhere even close to 4 tons. The new Outlaw 26 weighs 4800lbs, the older 25' slightly less.