No Wake Lake??

[ishoot308]

How much higher can the water go before a lake wide no wake restriction is mandated?? The water levels have really risen and with more rain expected this week I have a feeling it won't be long! :(

Dan

[BroadHopper]

This happened back in 1998. I will see if I can find out how high the lake was.

[Bear Islander]

In the past my dock being underwater coincided perfectly with the lake wide restriction. I don't think my dock is the official determining factor... But I am watching the Bearcam to see if it works a third time. We still have a few inches to go.

[woodynh]

The lake certainly is high but at this point looking at my dock not much higher then it usally gets at somepoint every year. I have seen it about 4 to 5 inches higher on my dock without the lake being no wake.

Again that is just judging by my dock.

[Coastal Laker]

FYI that I went under the Weirs bridge yesterday around 4pm and the water level was exactly at the full lake mark. It was a full foot or more higher just two-three years ago and only had a no-wake restriction for a set distance from shore (I don't recall what the MPs set it at). That year, the water was over the doc by a few inches, easily 12-16 inches from what it is now.

[Senter Cove Guy]

I like the lake height right now. I'd like to see it stay at this height until mid-late September.

[LIforrelaxin]

Before the lake goes no wake the water has always been over my dock..... currently as of yesterday, we have about 6 inches before that happens..... When the lake has gone no wake I believe the level has usually been about 505 feet with full lake being 504.32 which says that the lake is about 8.4 inches above full lake.............(interestingly enough this is just about the top of my dock)

Not that this is a hard fast rule but that is what I have noted from the past.

[hazelnut]

The Channel was pretty fun on Saturday. I believe we were flying through at 10 MPH with the boat in neutral!!!!! :laugh::laugh:

The challenge was coming back against the current! Seems the Dam is opened up pretty big right now.

[robmac]

I remember back in 98 I had a slip at Thurstons and I can tell you it was no picnic getting in and out when the Channel was really flowing. It was one of the main resons for moving and not an easy decision for me.

[BroadHopper]

The Channel was pretty fun on Saturday. I believe we were flying through at 10 MPH with the boat in neutral!!!!! :laugh::laugh:

The challenge was coming back against the current! Seems the Dam is opened up pretty big right now.

Be careful! That is a headway speed zone! It's against the law to go more than 6 mph! :emb:

[SIKSUKR]

Be careful! That is a headway speed zone! It's against the law to go more than 6 mph! :emb:

Yup, you should have been in reverse. :laugh: I think the 6 mph would be relative to the water and not the land. :confused:

[Resident 2B]

Although the water is high, we are only at 504.56' which is only 3" over full lake. They are dumping water at a reasonable level at the dam, matching the input, so the lake is stead at the 504.56' level.

Although it is raining some, it is not pouring. Therefore, it looks like the lake will stay at this level, then recede as the good weather comes in later this week. Hopefully, this keeps us out of the "No Wake" rules that usually come at about 505'.

The 1600 cfs release level is resulting in a good current in the Weirs Channel making it tough to hold control heading south at 6MPH GPS. Remember, GPS is relative to the land, not the current. The boat could care less how fast it is going relative to the land as far as control is concerned. It is speed relative to the current that gives control.

R2B

[Dave R]

Yup, you should have been in reverse. :laugh: I think the 6 mph would be relative to the water and not the land. :confused:

It is (though it is not worded that way), but with MP trained in the use of RADAR and LIDAR, and equipped with said hardware, how long before the same officer who forces people into headway speed situations in tight areas figures out a way to use RADAR or LIDAR to start writing tickets for going faster than 6 MPH in a no wake zone?

[jeffk]

Although the water is high, we are only at 504.56' which is only 3" over full lake. They are dumping water at a reasonable level at the dam, matching the input, so the lake is stead at the 504.56' level.

Although it is raining some, it is not pouring. Therefore, it looks like the lake will stay at this level, then recede as the good weather comes in later this week. Hopefully, this keeps us out of the "No Wake" rules that usually come at about 505'.

The 1600 cfs release level is resulting in a good current in the Weirs Channel making it tough to hold control heading south at 6MPH GPS. Remember, GPS is relative to the land, not the current. The boat could care less how fast it is going relative to the land as far as control is concerned. It is speed relative to the current that gives control.

R2B

I think this is a good summary of the current conditions. It would need to go up almost 4 -6 inches before a serious consideration for a no wake over the lake based on similar conditions in 2005,6, and 7. Of course a really strong system could drop 3 to 4 inches over a day and that would change things considerably but that is unlikely.

[wifi]

.... how long before the same officer who forces people into headway speed situations in tight areas figures out a way to use RADAR or LIDAR to start writing tickets for going faster than 6 MPH in a no wake zone?

It would be much easier to just claim you did something when in reality you did something else totally reasonable. Then it would be your word against theirs, who do you think would win in court? You would have to prove yourself innocent..... wait a minute, isnt this America, innocent until proven, without a reasonable doubt, you are guilty?

Seriously tho, I have a friend who was a MPO, and quit over the brotherhood scorning him because he refused to participate in these entrapment antics.

Despite all the recent chant for 'change', I hope the reasonableness and personal honor of the past will return return to those who rule and have control over us. Is this too much to hope for?

/rant off

[Rattlesnake Gal]

http://des.nh.gov/organization/divisions/water/dam/winni_levels/graphics/graph2009.jpg

Lake Winnipesaukee Hydrograph (http://des.nh.gov/organization/divisions/water/dam/winni_levels/index.htm)

Through Bizer's website (http://www.bizer.com/), you can access another graph, which I cannot figure out how to access through DES. Click on Bizer's Lake Level. Above the graph click the - Click here for NH DES graph of the last two weeks.

[Rattlesnake Guy]

2000 cubic feet per second is a lot of water. Did you ever wonder, like I did, how much the lake drops if the dam releases 2000 cubic feet per second for 1 day? My rough calculation is about 1.03 inches per day.

[Island Girl]

According to Bizer, 1920 CFS yields 1.24 billion gallons, or enough water to lower the level of Lake Winnipesaukee one inch.. Which makes you right on, RGuy.

Here is the lake level chart.
http://www2.des.state.nh.us/rti_data/wein3_TABLE.HTML

You can always find the lake level charts at www.rattlesnakecam.com/watch.htm (http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/watch.htm) along with a lot of other lake information.

[Cobalt 25]

I must be missing something when I look at the chart posted by Rattlesnake Gal. It seems to indicate that May and June have had LESS rainfall than the 10 year average. It sure doesn't seem like that. Where is my misinterpretation?

Peter

[ishoot308]

Even though the rain has not stopped, the lake level is slightly lower than last weekend. I notice this weekend that my docks are slightly exposed more.

Now all we need is SUN!!

Dan

[NHskier]

According to their chart, the Lakeport dam has been wide open for the past few days.

http://www2.des.state.nh.us/RTi_Home/station_information_display.asp?ID=LKPN3&NAME=Lakeport+Dam

[meredith weekender]

According to the chart in the channel, we are 2"below a full lake. This is as of this morning.