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Sunset Bob
11-10-2008, 11:07 AM
These pictures are from the internet.
Make sure your stern tie downs are tight.
brk-lnt
11-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Might also want to remember to raise the outdrive...
Resident 2B
11-10-2008, 11:37 AM
...and to avoid crashing into well-anchored traffic signal poles. :) :rolleye1:
Skipper of the Sea Que
11-10-2008, 11:45 AM
Just a comment:
This probably would not have happened if the boat was going slower. :laugh:
Let's hope that the airbags and seat belts kept everyone safe.
Obviously an abrupt stop to cause inertia to propel the boat forward like that. Looks like the passenger cabin stayed essentially intact, which is pretty good after hitting a pole and getting what looks to be a ~3000 lb boat on the roof. But there doesn't appear to be an airbag deployment...
I wonder if this was an unoccupied "run-away"?
Merrymeeting
11-10-2008, 02:09 PM
I don't understand why you are all talking about towing and tie-down straps.
This is clearly a case of ignorance of the boating laws. The boat was the overtaking vessel. Did it signal correctly with 1 or 2 short horn blasts before overtaking? Did the stand-on vessel change course drastically? It appears that both vessels are within 150' of a marker.
I'm guessing the Marine Patrol is going to have to rule on who was at fault here.
brk-lnt
11-10-2008, 02:50 PM
I heard a rumor that Brunswick and Dodge were working on a new amphibious vehicle. Perhaps these are spy photos?
BroadHopper
11-10-2008, 03:05 PM
Did you know......
By law in the state of NH, you cannot exceed 45 mph when towing a trailer with a noncommercial license? Yeap. Let's keep this quiet as the smokies have not been enforcing it.
chipj29
11-10-2008, 03:19 PM
If he had used a tie down strap on the stern, if he hit the light post fast enough, the whole trailer/boat combo could have flipped right over the truck! :eek:
brk-lnt
11-10-2008, 03:27 PM
Did you know......
By law in the state of NH, you cannot exceed 45 mph when towing a trailer with a noncommercial license? Yeap. Let's keep this quiet as the smokies have not been enforcing it.
So you're saying he put the boat in the bed of the truck because he was in a hurry and didn't want to violate speed limit laws?
Pricestavern
11-11-2008, 09:55 PM
Just a comment:
This probably would not have happened if the boat was going slower. :laugh:
Oh no! Are we going to discuss the inertial outcomes at +/- 45mph? ;)
SIKSUKR
11-12-2008, 09:24 AM
Maybe the trucks tail lights were not working.Sadly,it looks sort of like the Littlefield reconstruction.
jeffk
11-12-2008, 10:59 AM
I wonder if he hit the pole and the resultant mess happened
OR
He started to stop for the light, the boat started to shift forward because it wasn't tied down, he saw the boat moving, panicked, and hit the pole making it worse.
Senter Cove Guy
11-12-2008, 12:30 PM
The trailer looks a little skimpy for the size of the boat.
The trailer looks a little skimpy for the size of the boat.
I used to have a 19' Maxum, which was made by US Marine - the same company that makes Bayliners. It came on the same single axle trailer shown in the pictures above (Escort if I recall). It didn't have any brakes, either...
That Bayliner looks to be a 19- or 20-footer and I'm sure that trailer was more than likely part of the original package when sold.
rander7823
11-13-2008, 12:40 PM
I heard a rumor that Brunswick and Dodge were working on a new amphibious vehicle. Perhaps these are spy photos?
Yup, just what you'd expect a Dodge engineer puts the boat on top of the amphibious vehicle
Audiofn
11-15-2008, 03:57 PM
tough way to try and save a few bucks at the toll boths :D
Mee-n-Mac
11-17-2008, 08:01 PM
I'd say this is about the only time I've ever seen, or heard of, Bayliner coming out on top ... well ... in anything. :eek:
brk-lnt
11-17-2008, 08:37 PM
I'd say this is about the only time I've ever seen, or heard of, Bayliner coming out on top ... well ... in anything. :eek:
Yeah, they have an undeserved bad reputation. Actually a very well built boat for the money, but I passed on buying one myself due to resale value issues.
Dave R
11-18-2008, 08:04 AM
Yeah, they have an undeserved bad reputation. Actually a very well built boat for the money, but I passed on buying one myself due to resale value issues.
They are far better built today, but they earned their bad rep in the 80s. There were some pretty sloppy building practices by most builders in those days, but Bayliner was at or near the bottom of the pile.
brk-lnt
11-18-2008, 12:06 PM
They are far better built today, but they earned their bad rep in the 80s. There were some pretty sloppy building practices by most builders in those days, but Bayliner was at or near the bottom of the pile.
I recall their bad rep well predating the 80's. Most of the 80's Bayliners have held up pretty well. A significant number of those hulls were notorious for being underpowered, but they were built to better-than-acceptable specs.
Bayliner Capri's from the mid/early 80's popularized and made boating affordable for a lot of individuals. Those boats were decently built for the most part, but many were prone to getting soft transoms and floors. IME, this is more due to neglect than shoddy building practices (for the price range).
AB_Monterey
11-24-2008, 10:46 PM
How's this for a first response from a lurker?
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/dsm/763203032.html
VitaBene
11-25-2008, 07:35 AM
AB, That is one of my favorite CL posts
I actually have them saved somewhere and use them as demo pics when discussing why: 1) you need trailer brakes that actually work, and 2) securing your boat is kind of important.
Sunset Bob
11-25-2008, 11:40 AM
How's this for a first response from a lurker?
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/dsm/763203032.html
Great first post AB_Monterey.
Welcome to the forum.
Wolfeboro_Baja
11-25-2008, 01:16 PM
How's this for a first response from a lurker?
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/dsm/763203032.html
THAT is too funny!! :laugh: :laugh:
They are far better built today, but they earned their bad rep in the 80s. There were some pretty sloppy building practices by most builders in those days, but Bayliner was at or near the bottom of the pile.
Even today, as the Bayliner 24 has failed to meet the latest international stability and buoyancy standards, the Bayliner 24 (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:NXOqy_M5yoIJ:www.soundingsonline.co m/ME2/dirmod.asp%3Fsid%3D%26nm%3D%26type%3DPublishing%26 mod%3DPublications%253A%253AArticle%26mid%3DAA11F3 E4053147B68C8B77CBE43F6C9A%26tier%3D4%26id%3D14CA6 AA7B4E640419FF32ED7E7169A2A+last-call,+maib,+recommendations&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1) will be categorized as an inshore boat only for international boaters.
tough way to try and save a few bucks at the toll boths :D
There's more than one way to do THAT! ;)
brk-lnt
12-06-2008, 09:13 AM
Even today, as the Bayliner 24 has failed to meet the latest international stability and buoyancy standards, the Bayliner 24 (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:NXOqy_M5yoIJ:www.soundingsonline.co m/ME2/dirmod.asp%3Fsid%3D%26nm%3D%26type%3DPublishing%26 mod%3DPublications%253A%253AArticle%26mid%3DAA11F3 E4053147B68C8B77CBE43F6C9A%26tier%3D4%26id%3D14CA6 AA7B4E640419FF32ED7E7169A2A+last-call,+maib,+recommendations&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1) will be categorized as an inshore boat only for international boaters.
Have you read through the standards you're referring to? The vast majority of 24ft pleasure craft would be classified the same way.
1) First, 'nothing against Bayliners—I think they're a boat made-to-a-price—and that's OK by me. ;) (It was Soundings magazine that reported that Bayliner 24 case).
While the Bayliner 24 meets inshore boat standards, the ISO complaint was that the Bayliner 24 lacked any cockpit "hand-holds". I'm not conversant with other boats of this size and their hand-holds.
2) Every day, from where I reside presently, I'm surprised to see Jet-Skis and other under-24-foot craft zipping out into the Atlantic Ocean.
One Jet-Skier famously tried to go to the Bahamas from the southeast coast of Florida, but called for rescue when he ran out of gas. :rolleye1: (I think it was actually a round-trip begun in Bimini to collect cheaper beer). :rolleye2:
The same boating attitude was present with the previously mentioned Bayliner 24, which is intended for inshore waters and shouldn't have left the harbor.
3) Last year, one highly-regarded sailboat manufacturer, Beneteau, was told to re-engineer their standing rigging based on this double-rollover incident (Case 26) (http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:I1WqxzIu6TcJ:www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/SD_2_1999.pdf+soundings,+inquiry,+beneteau,+-charter,+damaged,&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us#52). It was a 39-foot boat!
ISO boating inquiries can go on for years, as this one did. Again, Soundings magazine covered both of these discussions by the ISO investigations board.
Edited to add:
"...If he had used a tie down strap on the stern, if he hit the light post fast enough, the whole trailer/boat combo could have flipped right over the truck...!"
The other day, I followed a boat secured at the transom with two 2-inch tie down straps. I'm thinking there is way too much "mass" to restrain with 2-inch tie down straps. This particular boat even bent the trailer tongue and bow guide!
4) Photos in my computer include these two trailer shots below.
The first shows a pontoon boat which doesn't appear to have been secured well to its trailer.
The second is an interesting solution when your trailer (and boat) is excessive—just slide a large plastic garbage can on the end to protect pedestrians—and the postman!
Edited again, for another runaway trailer.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/28/article-2121384-125D260B000005DC-31_468x286.jpg
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