View Full Version : Another Cap'n Bonehead stunt
AC2717
08-27-2007, 07:38 AM
SO yesterday I was out on the lake, little disappointed in the weather because they said 80's, it was but no sun, so it was chilly with the wind, I am heading from Gov's towards diamond, I came through the Weirs, and I an heading at about 3/4 speed, and looking around me and no one around, then all of a sudden off to my starboard side there is, I think about a 26-28 foot cuddy cabin, must have came out from on of the coves or that area along the road from Gilford to Alton. They driver stand up starts screaming, of course I could not hear him under way, he was maybe 400 feet away from me, obviously I was the stand on vessel, and he continues on his way flaring his hat at me and gestures and all of that and he had a full boat. I slowed down because he was not and he was crossing right in front of me and my wife was like what is this all about, if you are the stand on vessel why is he yelling at you, if he is over taking my from say about 5 o'clock on the clock, (i looked back to see his wake path, why is he yelling at you and cutting you off, he is give way and should go around me correct? man it made me so mad!
Weekend Pundit
08-28-2007, 12:44 PM
I was out for a quick one hour jaunt on the lake with my son yesterday afternoon. The weather was great and the boat traffic was minimal. All in all, it was a great time for boating.
We'd finished our run out and back and were at headway speed as we enetred Glendale. There were three other boats near us - two power boats and a sailboat - and we were all within 100 feet of each other or less. The sailboat was outbound and had just raised sail, the other two boats were inbound just like me.
A Bayliner piloted by a Cap'n Bonehead coming from the direction of Welch's Island decided that, rather than dropping to headway speed to pass among us on his way to the passage between Pig and Locke's Island, he'd stay up on full plane and passed between us all at between 25 and 50 feet.
The sail boat was damn near swamped, one of the bowriders shipped some water over his port side, and the other boat and I laid on our horns as the jerk passed between us. It wasn't until he was actually through the passage between Pig and Locke's that he slowed down...until he passed the buoy to the west end of the passage and got right back up on the throttle.
Talk about friggin' clueless.
KonaChick
08-28-2007, 01:05 PM
What a great opportunity to take bow numbers and report him to MP...especially with him being that close and with 3 witnesses!!
.........then all of a sudden off to my starboard side there is, I think about a 26-28 foot cuddy cabin, must have came out from on of the coves or that area along the road from Gilford to Alton. .... obviously I was the stand on vessel, and he continues on his way flaring his hat at me and gestures and all of that and he had a full boat. I slowed down because he was not and he was crossing right in front of me and my wife was like what is this all about, if you are the stand on vessel why is he yelling at you, if he is over taking my from say about 5 o'clock on the clock, (i looked back to see his wake path, why is he yelling at you and cutting you off, he is give way and should go around me correct? man it made me so mad!
If he was on your starboard (right) side then he was the stand on and you were the give way. He had the right of way, you were wrong.
GWC...
08-28-2007, 02:15 PM
If he was on your starboard (right) side then he was the stand on and you were the give way. He had the right of way, you were wrong.
if he is over taking my from say about 5 o'clock on the clock, (i looked back to see his wake path
Seems a bit out of the zone at five o'clock.
The vessel that is overtaking another vessel is the give-way vessel (http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/course/glossary.htm#GIVEWAYBOAT). The vessel being overtaken is the stand-on vessel (http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/course/glossary.htm#STANDONBOAT).
URL Link:http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/course/p3-3_encounteringothers.htm#Overtaking
sa meredith
08-28-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm a bit new to boating (on lake Winni 3 years), so correct me if I'm wrong, but with all due respect AC2717, if he was approaching from the starboard side, HE WAS INDEED THE STAND ON VESSEL. You should have backed off (given way). I believe I am correct in this matter.
AC2717
08-28-2007, 02:46 PM
I'm a bit new to boating (on lake Winni 3 years), so correct me if I'm wrong, but with all due respect AC2717, if he was approaching from the starboard side, HE WAS INDEED THE STAND ON VESSEL. You should have backed off (given way). I believe I am correct in this matter.
You are correct if he was coming from my starboard side by originally he was behind me at my 5 o'clock, meaning he was over taking me and pull ed up to my starboard, the overtaking rule applies not the starboard rule. because of where he originated from when approaching me from behind.
Do not disagree with you if he was comign from 1,2,3 even maybe 4 o'clock but not a 5 o'clock, that is overtaking.
good discussion point here though what does the rest of the forum think?
AC2717
08-28-2007, 02:48 PM
Seems a bit out of the zone at five o'clock.
URL Link:http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/course/p3-3_encounteringothers.htm#Overtaking
Thank you for thje clarification, with this he was the give way vessel as he was not coming from the starboard side originally
The magic line is about 3:45. That's 22.5 degrees abaft of your starboard beam. Behind that he's passing you and you are stand-on. In front of that he's crossing from the starboard and you are give-way.
Most people assume passing only applies from directly astern, so in this situation I aways prepare to take evasive action. I've also made this mistake, it's really hard to judge that angle perfectly.
sa meredith
08-28-2007, 03:42 PM
OK...I stand corrected. I guess I would describe the same situation as
"he approached me from the starboard side of my stern"....
If he approaches from 5 he would have to be behind you.
I missed the 5 o'clock part in your post.
OK...I stand corrected. I guess I would describe the same situation as
"he approached me from the starboard side of my stern"....
If he approaches from 5 he would have to be behind you.
I missed the 5 o'clock part in your post.
Ditto, I missed the 5 o'clock portion also, sorry, you sure it wasn't 3:30?:laugh:
AC2717
08-29-2007, 09:06 AM
Ditto, I missed the 5 o'clock portion also, sorry, you sure it wasn't 3:30?:laugh:
WAs sure:emb:
Even like I aid my wife who rarely drive the boat was commenting, if she does then I know I was not going nuts :laugh:
Anyhoo got on with my day but was bothersome in my mind, Wish I caught a better description so I could tell you folks who to look out for and to make sure you actually stand down because he will not.
See you all this weekend for what looks like might be the last hooraaah
Island Life
08-30-2007, 09:58 PM
We'd finished our run out and back and were at headway speed as we enetred Glendale. There were three other boats near us - two power boats and a sailboat - and we were all within 100 feet of each other or less. The sailboat was outbound and had just raised sail, the other two boats were inbound just like me.
A Bayliner piloted by a Cap'n Bonehead coming from the direction of Welch's Island decided that, rather than dropping to headway speed to pass among us on his way to the passage between Pig and Locke's Island, he'd stay up on full plane and passed between us all at between 25 and 50 feet.
I had a similar situation in the same spot just the other day (maybe i was one of the other boats, in fact). What upset me was that Marine Patrol was right there and did nothing!!!! Must have been looking in another direction!
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