History of Lake Shore Park [Archive]

mcdude

07-28-2006, 06:19 PM

Steve:
The best source (of course!) is this website. Here's some info on Lakeshore Park from the Lakeshore RR (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13180#post13180)thread.
(See the thread for "super-sized versions of the text)
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15018/medium/20scanphilbrickarticle_6.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15018/medium/20scanphilbrickarticle_7.jpg
Not to sound like a broken record, but, the best source for any Gilford historical information is Adair Mulligan's book, "The Gunstock Parish: A History of Gilford, NH. Pages 205-207 are devoted to Lakeshore Park with references found on five other pages. Photos are found of the Lakeshore Inn and the Pavilion.

Her opening words about the park goes something like this...

"The Lakeshore Inn and the Park on Belknap Pt. Road were perhaps the most extensive summer development on Gilford's Winnipesaukee shore at the turn of the nineteenth century. the property was originally known as Carr's Point after Richard Carr's early farmstead, which itself was frequented by travellers from Meredith Bridge bound for Alton or the seacoast. The Lakeshore RR under the urging of its' president, purchased the property, intending to create the most popular resort on the southern shore of the lake. The company envisioned a resort for primarily railroad employees, with an inn, pavilion, picnic area, tent platforms and a railroad station.........The Maid of the Isles stopped there twice a day and the Lady of the Lake four times a day.................."
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanlakeshorespring.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanviewatlakeshorepark.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scancabinsinthepines.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanlakeshorepavillion.jpg

upthesaukee

07-28-2006, 10:00 PM

About ten years ago it was still there and still named the "Wee Hoose". That was my first trip up to Lake Winnipesaukee back in 1946 or 1947. The Wee Hoose belonged to Jim and Millie Foster, Scottish immigrants from Andover MA, who also started with a tent platform I believe in the 1920's and then grew into a "cottage". Uncle Jim and Aunt Millie were my mom's aunt and uncle, therefore my great-aunt and great-uncle, and of course "Wee Hoose" is the Scottish dialect for wee house, small house, and small it was.

I have little recollection of the stays there, except that Uncle Jim would sleep on an "L" shaped porch in the warm weather, and my Dad & I would join him when we came up. There was a "cooler" that was built into the floor right next to Uncle Jim's cot, and there was always some ice and an eyeopener in the cooler. And an eyeopener it was...Uncle Jim would reach down into that cooler and get an eyeopener for himself and wake up my dad and get him one too. Me....I had to go inside and get milk out of the icebox (truly an ice box, not a refrigerator.).

I can barely remember the beach, and swimming, but do remember walking around the park and it seemed like everyone knew everyone else.

I know there were dances at the Pavillion on Saturday nights, with kid's dances early, and then the kids would get put to bed, and the adults would take over. Teams of parents would go around and check on the kids to make sure they were alright. (used to do the same thing in our old neighborhood in Reading MA...adults at neighborhood cookouts in the summer and sledding on the hill on our street in the winter time). Of course, if parents did that sort of thing now, it would be called neglect and the kids would be taken away:eek: !

Uncle Jim and Aunt Millie are long gone, as are all the rest of the family, so that's about it for info from this end. This is where my user name comes from, because as a toddler, I couldn't say "Winnipesaukee", so I would simply say "Up the Saukee", and that phrase stuck.

Just Sold

07-29-2006, 09:01 AM

This is where my user name comes from, because as a toddler, I couldn't say "Winnipesaukee", so I would simply say "Up the Saukee", and that phrase stuck.

Thanks for the history from your experiences at LSP and how your user name came to be. Good thing your pronunciation has improved.:eek:

Pepper

07-29-2006, 09:18 AM

.. Good thing your pronunciation has improved.:eek:

Who say's it has? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

upthesaukee

07-29-2006, 10:07 PM

Go ahead, ya live by the sword and ya die by the sword:laugh: .

My pronunciation ain't never been no better and it ain't gettin' no worser, so if I ain't misunderstood none, then it ain't never gonna matter none! Right????:eek: (Yikes, I think I contracted a Yogi Berra virus:rolleye2: )

SteveA

07-30-2006, 01:24 PM

McDude, Upthesaukke,

Thanks for the response's

If either of you ever want to get into LSP for "memories" or pictures... let me know.. I'd love to show you folks around..

the old railroad station is now a 4 unit "motel" that we let out to members families... and I would love to go see if Upthesaukke's old place is sill there.

The pavillion still looks exacly like the old postcard mcdude posted.. and we still have dances every saturday night...

SteveA

MWSP

08-01-2006, 07:30 AM

While doing research for our pageant last year, I ran across a story about a bathing beauty pageant that used to be held there. The winner was called Miss Lake Shore Park. I'm sorry but I cannot recall where I ran across this article.

SteveA

08-01-2006, 07:48 AM

MWSP,

I've been a member at LSP for thirty years... they started the contest back in the mid 60's...

It's not a "real" pagent type event... no talent or bathing suit. It's alot of fun for the young ladies... there are 2 divisions.. Miss and Jr. Miss. They get a chance to walk the runway.. and the hall is always full.

Really just a fun thing.

Thanks for the post!

MWSP

08-01-2006, 05:24 PM

MWSP,

I've been a member at LSP for thirty years... they started the contest back in the mid 60's...

That is interesting. I believe the story I saw was much older since the history I was working on at that time was the 1930's through the mid 1950's.

SteveA

08-02-2006, 08:14 AM

Well that may be correct.... I've been there since 73.... I'll ask some of the "old timers" at LSP
Thx SteveA

mcdude

08-06-2006, 07:19 PM

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/shortbeachatlakeshore.jpg

carguy

08-06-2006, 07:56 PM

Hi All,

I am the newest of the newbies in this forum. I have been visiting this web site for many years, and I finally decided to join the forum so I can share my memories of the Lakes region and Lake Shore Park.

My dad purchased a tent platform for $50 at Lake Shore Park (LSP) the year I was born, 1943. Through the years the camp was improved until my family sold it in the early 1960's. The camp was located on the main road between the Pavilion and shoreline just west of "short Beach" in the "big pier area". McDude just posted today a post card of a man standing by a tree with Short Beach in the background. Our camp was situated about 50 feet to the right from where the man is standing. Somewhere in the family archives there is a photo of me at 5 months sitting on a blanket on short beach. In the background you can see the raft with diving tower sitting on the beach. It appears that the raft was not launched that Summer, probably needing repairs. I think the raft with tower was moored just off "short beach" in the Big Pier area.

There is another picture of me sitting in our Amesbury Dory boat with a 7-1/2 HP Scott Atwater outboard motor at Short Beach. My younger brother looks to be about two years old in the photo, so the year must have been 1947.

I have so many memories of me spending my Summers when I was growing up at Lake Shore Park. There were so many kids to hang out with. We had the "Big Pier Crowd' and the "Long Beach Crowd" of kids. We spent a lot of time together on the waterfront making rafts, playing water baseball, playing hide and seek on and under the Big Pier, fishing, tubing, and later when we were teenagers, we spent a lot of time waterskiing.

In an earlier post in this thread SteveA made reference to the Miss Lake Shore Park beauty contest starting in the early 1960's. It actually started earlier than that, in the 1950's. Two winners that I can remember, Donna DeGroot and Peggy Weeks went on to win the Miss Winnipesaukee pageant held at Irwin's Winnipesaukee Gardens at the Weirs. I think Jerry Donahue's sister won the Miss Winnipesaukee Pageant prior to Donna and Peggy winning it.

We all had a lot of fun at the LSP Pavilion in the evenings. During the week we danced to the music coming from an old Seeburg Juke Box that played 78 RPM vinyl records. Later we went big time when a newer Seeburg holding 100 45 RPM records replaced the old Seeburg 78 RPM machine.

I learned to dance on the Pavilion floor. Saturday Night there was usually a live band for the adults and Johnny Coyle mc'ed the festivities for many years. He eventually became one of the first presidents of the Lake Shore Park Association.

The Jones Family owned the Park when I was young. Frank and Doris Jones ran the main part of the Park with the store and Pavilion. Frank's brother, George helped Frank run his end of the Park. Frank Jones' other brother, Harry and his wife, (I think her name was Blanche) ran the eastren end of the Park. Thet had a little restaurant in the old LSP railroad depot which was later turned into a motel in the late 1950's. my parents and older brotherused to take my brother and I to the restaurant for a coke and a hot dog.

Over the course of the next few weeks, I will post many more of my memories of growing up at LSP in the Summer.I have a couple of large reels of color 8mm home movies that my dad took in the late 1940's and early 1950's at LSP.
I should look into getting these movies preserved on to a DVD. The Gilford Historical Society would love to have these, I bet.

carguy

08-06-2006, 08:09 PM

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/shortbeachatlakeshore.jpg

My familie's camp was located about 50' to the right of where the man is standing by the tree. My dad bought it from Harold Holmes in 1943 for $50. It was a tent platform with walls at that time. I was a couple of months old when he bought the camp.

SteveA

08-06-2006, 09:16 PM

WOW!

I'm a newbie to... welcome

Carguy.... boy do I want to talk to you... I'd love to see any old pics you have of LSP...

mcdude is incredible... he has more local info to the "west side" of the big lake...

Be sure you look up his other posts on the Lake Shore railroad...

upthesaukie is another great reference for LSP... ask him about the Wee House!

Thanks for posting...

Contact me if you ever want to come into LSP to revisit old memories..

Thx SteveA

SteveA

08-07-2006, 10:44 AM

carguy,,

Some of the family names you mention... Donohue, DeGroot are still in LSP.

I sent you an e-mail with even more names of the oldtimers...

SteveA

carguy

08-07-2006, 11:39 AM

SteveA:

I can remember in the early 1950's some of the remains of the foundation of the Lake Shore Inn were hidden in the tall grass and brush just to the left of the entrance road to LSP, the leg of the road which would be closest to the present day marina.

The Spring House was still standing in the early 1950's and that would have been located about 100 yards into the woods behind where the foundation was for the Lake Shore Inn. In the 1950's everyone in the Park got their fresh drinking water from the artesian well hand pump on the side of the pavilion.

Across the street from the LSP entrance road (Rte 11, now Scenic Dr.) there was a yellow farm house and property that was part of the Lake Shore Park land owned by the Jones Family. A tenant farmer named, Burt Wadleigh, operated the farm. I can remember getting earthworms from his pig pen for fishing bait. Burt was an old character, and I remember that my dad used to walk out and shoot the bull with Burt.

The dump (landfill) for Lake Shore Park was located a few hundred yards behind this farm house. They had a dump fire there in the late 1950's which started a small forest fire. To the right of the farmhouse heading west down present day Scenic Dr. there was an old barn with a tin roof. This barn was used as storage for furniture that campers moved out of their tent platforms for the Winter months. I can't recall if the barn is still there for I have not been up to the Lakes Region in about five years. I need another nostalgia trip to Lake Shore Park to get the memory lobes in my brain regenerated. It is funny how I can remember this stuff when I cannot remember what I had for dinner last night.

In speaking of the Lake Shore Inn and the Lake Shore Park entrance there used to be a big sign at the entrance to the park. By the style of the artwork depicting a bather diving into the lake on the sign, it must have been erected in the 1920's. The sign had incandescent lights attached to it, but I cannot ever recall seeing it lit at night. The bulbs were usually broken and the lights were in a state of electrical disrepair.

On the northeast corner of the LSP entrance road and then Rte 11 was located the Butternut Lodge and Cabins. This property was eventually bought by George Spanos and Wally Rugg when they purchased the Park. I think they bought the Park in 1959, but I could be corrected on this date.

I delivered ice and picked up trash in the Park for the Ruggs during their first year of ownership. I drove a beatup old 1947 International Pickup truck with the driver's door removed for easier access. In August of 1960 Gerna Magnuson let me start working in the LSP Store, so I was done with the ice and trash removal routine. Now I was able to serve Amand's delicious coffee rolls and other baked goods, drink lots of cold "tonic" from the old spin wheel soda bottle dispenser, and make a $1.00 per hour. Armand LePage was the baker there for many years. During the off season he was the baker at Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, NH.

SteveA

08-07-2006, 01:56 PM

copied and pasted with permission from carguy...

Steve:

Our camp was located across the street from Frank Cook's camp on the shoreline side of the road. It was colored white with blue trim for many years. Yes, I know Frank passed away. We all knew him as "Buster" Cook. I hear that Jean Cook passed away before Frank.

Here is one for you. I work at Putnam Ford Mercury in Putnam, CT, www.putnamfordmercury.com, My owner’s name is Richard Place and his sister, Judy, is married to Randy Cook. Small world isn’t it.

Here is a photo of a boat that was in the forum:

I believe that this boat in later days was owned by Frank Cook. It’s name was Old Smoothie. It was a beautiful Lake Boat with a long forward deck. This has to be the boat, for there were not too many of this particular style boat on the Lake. Frank ended up selling the boat to Harrah’s Antique Car Museum in Reno, Nevada. I was able to see the boat on display at Harrah’s in September 1969 when I visited the Museum. There was a small sign on the boat which made reference to the previous owner being Frank Cook from Gilford, NH.

Frank was big into old boats. He had a Miss Winnipesaukee stored for years in his barn on Scenic Dr. I understand that his sons restored it a few years ago. This must be it here:

The only other Miss Winni that I am aware of in existence is one that Jackie Irwin owns. I have a lot to add to the forum about old classic boats. I was a member of the Antique and Classic Boat Society New England Chapter. Here is a photo of my last classic boat that I had on the Lake in the mid 1990’s. I kept it at Fay’s Boat Yard.

The above photo was taken at Wolfeboro in 1995. The boat was in the process of being restored. She was a 1952 42’ Chris-Craft Double Cabin Flying Bridge Cruiser named Grumpy Ol’ Men. I eventually sold the boat in 1999 and the new owner had it moved to Nashville, TN on the Cumberland River.

Lots of good stuff to come later.

Regards,

Bill Clarke

SteveA

08-07-2006, 02:02 PM

here are the pictures

gravy boat

08-11-2006, 04:40 PM

Sounds like we LSP alumni have much in common!

My mother (who would be 75 this year) spent her childhood summers there and remembers pitching s tent way back when. Her grandparents went there and I believe they were the ones who started the journey north for many of us.

One of my brothers (10 years my senior) told me a story about how he and some of his summer buddies went up to the Pavillion to the old water pump and had a contest -- who could drink the most Dixie Cups of water. He downed 72 -- I believe he won. ;-)

LSP has many memories for me -- we left in the late 60s
/early 70s and I still miss it, even though we are now down the road a piece. (I'm told I said my first word while in a playpen on the beach.) We were a few cabins down from Ellacoya, right on the beach.

What great childhood summers!

Gravy

carguy

08-12-2006, 07:25 AM

Gravy Boat:

I remember they had a dixie cup dispenser mounted on the wall of the pavilion front porch near the store entrance. It cost 1 cent for a dixie cup. That artesian well water from the pump was terrific tasting water, long before the days of Poland Springs bottled water.

Just this past week I sent two 6" 8mm movie reels off to get made into DVD's. One of the reels was labled Lake Shore Park 1948, and the other one was LSP 1952. I have not seen them in years. My father was the cinemaphotographer. When I get the DVD's back, I plan on editing them and getting together with SteveA for a showing, possibly at the Park.

Speaking of the pavilion front porch, that is where the phone booth was located. Back in the 1950's, that was the only phone that I can remember being in the Park besides the business phone in Doris Jone's office. Can you imagine getting along all Summer without a phone? especially these days when everyone in the family over 12 years old has a cell phone. Oh, yes those were the simple days.

In 1959 my parents bought the Hamel cabin which was located down near the waterfront in the area of the flagpole. It was one of the first cabins with a built-in toilet. Back in those days everyone "went over the hill" to the "john".

As I am writing this it is a beautiful clear cool Summer morning here in Connecticut. It reminds me of a late Summer Saturday morning at LSP. I can smell Armand LePage's coffee rolls right now. Those were the best tasting coffee rolls.

mcall9031

08-19-2006, 05:26 PM

Hi Steve

This is the only picture of the Lake Shore Park Inn I have ever seen.
Built around 1890. Burnt in 1910

Mike C. from Long Beach LSP

SteveA

08-20-2006, 09:59 AM

Mike

Thank You.... I hadn't been able to find any pictures.... that is fantastic!

Steve

carguy

08-20-2006, 10:23 AM

Mike:

Thanks for posting the picture of the Lake Shore Park Inn. My memory has been rejuvinated for I recall seeing this picture in the past. As I mentioned in an earlier posting, I recollect as a kid seeing the remains of the foundation of that inn just to the left of the Lake Shore Park entrance.

mcall9031

08-20-2006, 04:16 PM

Hi

Attached is a picture of the Pavilion pre 1900

Mike

mcall9031

08-20-2006, 04:31 PM

Hi again

I think most people have seen this one. If not enjoy.

Mike C

carguy

08-20-2006, 05:03 PM

Mike:

I had not seen the two photos of the Pavilion pre-1900. When was the Pavilion built? in the 1890's?. I sure would like to pin it down to a specific year. I spent a lot of time in that building when I was young. I worked in the store, had fun dancing and attending events, and stayed in the building using it as a haven from hurricines and big storms.

SteveA

08-20-2006, 07:40 PM

Acording to Adair Mulligan's book, "The Gunstock Parish: A History of Gilford, NH.
Mike is exactly correct. It burned down in 1910.

great pics...

Thanks SteveA

SteveA

08-20-2006, 07:44 PM

Sorry to confuse...

Lake Park Inn burned.. Pavillion is still there and looks remarkably like the old photo's... most of the trees in the picture are gone.. but the building really looks pretty much the same

SteveA

mcall9031

08-20-2006, 08:14 PM

Hi Carguy

I think the Pavilion was built in 1891

You must remember this one!!

It's long gone. Maybe Steve remembers when it closed up.
I've been here 27 years. It was gone about that time.

Mike C

carguy

08-20-2006, 08:25 PM

That picture is circa 1961-1962. It was taken at the marina store and gas dock at Lake Shore Park when the marina was first in operation. My younger brother, Conrad Clarke, and Don Smith were the attendants that ran the store and pumps. It looks like Wally and Phyllis Rugg's pontoon boat behind the Lyman. They had the first pontoon party boat at the Park.

mcall9031

08-20-2006, 08:39 PM

Carguy

Here's one before your time. Long Beach LSP
By the look of the cars its from the 1930's.
No camps at that time. Only tenters.

Mike C

carguy

08-20-2006, 08:46 PM

i remember when those old postcards of the Park were sold in the Lake Shore Park Store. They even had some panorama views. McDude would go nuts if he could get his hands on all the different cards they ofered. I must admit that I have seen many of them in this forum, mostly uploaded by McDude.

I should be receiving my DVD's this week that were made from the 8mm movies that my Dad took at the park from 1947 onward. I have the raising of the flagpolle at the Park on video. There is a brass placque on the flagpole which dates this event. Someone please check it out for me. I think the date is 1949 when they added the flag pole on the Long Beach side of the Hawes cabin.

SteveA

08-21-2006, 06:35 AM

LSP from Kimballs castle, I don't know what the buliding is in the foreground.

Barn Maybe?

876

These are front and back of an old brochure... 60's I think..

877

878

SteveA

carguy

08-21-2006, 07:12 AM

Steve:

The barn and buidling in the foreground are the old Chanticleer Inn. I don't remember the barn being there in my time, but my first job was as a dishwasher at the Inn in 1958.

The brochure is from the early 1960's. The Ruggs and Spanos' came up with the logo of the "L" with the long tail. I can't recall what year exactly the the Spanos/Ruggs team took over management of the Park. it was either 1959 or 1960. Gerna Magnuson would remember that for she managed the store at that time.

mcdude

08-21-2006, 08:13 AM

Great stuff you guys! Thanks for taking the time to scan and post. The old R.R. station card was originally posted by lakegirl (frequent contributor to photopost) but then it must have been deleted because I can't find it anywhere. I'm very surprised we haven't heard lakegirl chime in on this post as she "hangs out" somewhere near Lakeshore Park. Lakegirl?

.....and boy was the place hopping yesterday with the big Triathalon...looked like there were thousands of participants and onlookers. Quite the event.

mcall9031

08-21-2006, 04:12 PM

Hi

Another old post card from Long Beach. ( MY favorite spot a LSP )

Mike C

No-Mo-Shun

08-21-2006, 06:05 PM

That is a nice photo of Long Beach. I am a new member(today) and I have loads of old memories of LSP. I spent the first 21 Summers of my life at LSP (1934-1955). Our cabin was at the end of Long Beach near what is now Ellacoya SP. We were the 4th cabin from the fence. My parents first built a board floor, which I don't remember, and wooden walls with a canvas roof, which I do remember. Finally, my dad put a wooden roof on around 1940. I believe that all had to do with the Jones' keeping their property tax bill as low as possible. My sister won the "Miss Lake Shore Park"contest at the pavilion around 1948 and then 2nd place in the "Miss Winni" contest at Winnipesaukee Gardens. I've been living on the West Coast for 45 years, so I don't get back to NH to often. "No-Mo-Shun" was the name of my Class B stock utility racer which I kept on the beach in front of our cabin. I will be back to talk about baseball, boating and all sorts of fun times at the lake

carguy

08-21-2006, 07:37 PM

I was in the Park in 1955. Hmmm 4th cottage from Ellacoya (Minnehaha Beach)?? I had a friend that lived in that vicinity who had an older brother named Billy who liked to race hydroplanes with his Merc Super 10 Hurricane Motor. I just wonder if you might be Bill B.

Pepper

08-21-2006, 10:37 PM

I have a huge smile on my face after reading your post! Welcome, cousin! Nice to have you "virtual-visiting" our side of the country. :D Waldo and I are very much looking forward to reading the future posts you promise. (Now if we could just get that cousin in Texas to quit lurking and join up! ;) )

Note to GravyBoat - thanks for helping me get that message to the other coast. :look:

No-Mo-Shun

08-21-2006, 11:21 PM

Boy oh boy, This sure is fun. I've been enjoying your posts over tha last couple of days that I've been checking. It was fun to see you last year, Pepper. Good lobstah rolls. Carguy, you jogged my memory; Minnehaha Beach!! I had forgotten. There were a few kids from there that would come up to the pavilion most nights. Eddie and Ernie, also Sonia. They usually had to walk around the fence in the water to get on LSP property. Uncle Bud also had a place there for a year or two. Yes, I am that same Bill(y) B. you referred to. Still messing around with boats. I wonder if people are aware that land is or was an island. The stream that separates Morrill's Beach and Minnehaha had a ditch that connected it to the marina at LSP. It wasn't a marina in 1948, just a swamp; full of frogs , insects and brown water. The ditch ran along the lake side of the old RR track bed. It was overgrown, but we did take a canoe through there. Had to have a machete I think. BTW Dick is still doing great and living in So. Calif. More later.

SteveA

08-22-2006, 07:24 AM

There is a brass placque on the flagpole which dates this event. Someone please check it out for me. I think the date is 1949 when they added the flag pole on the Long Beach side of the Hawes cabin.

carguy,

The placque reads,

Dedicated to all the boys and girls of Lake Shore Park that served in World War II

Presented by "The Campers of LSP"
September 1949

Photo to follow when I find my misplaced camera :(

SteveA

SteveA

08-22-2006, 09:09 AM

carguy,

Here you go...

891

892

SteveA

carguy

08-22-2006, 09:23 AM

SteveA:

I have film video of the raising of the flagpole in 1949. I was six years old back then. This will be fun to watch. Hopefully my DVD's will be here before the weekend. They were shipped last week to me.

carguy

08-22-2006, 09:28 AM

Hi Dick:

It has been a long time since we got together. Did you also work at the Chanticleer Inn back in 1959-1960?

We had a lot of good times back then with our "crowd' at the Park. I remember going down to your house in North Plainfield, NJ for New Years, 1960 or thereabouts.

Regards,

Bill Clarke

carguy

08-22-2006, 09:36 AM

No-Mo-Shun:

I never thought about Long Beach and the old "Ball Park" tent area being an island, but come to think of it, with the swam, ditch, and creek, it is an island. We use to catch pickerel in that ditch along the old railroad bed.

I hung around your brother, Dick. He was one of my best friends at the Park. He was a year older than me, and you were quite a few years older than me.

No-Mo-Shun

08-22-2006, 11:25 AM

I was wondering if you were here. For a number of years, I could never find anything about LSP, so I forgot about looking. CarGuy, The ball field, ringed by tents must have been there until about 1950. ( I might be wrong about the year. Please correct me if that is the case). After that they moved the field across the RR bed so that it was between Rt. 11 and the tracks. We had a softball game every morning at 10 AM unless it rained. On weekends, it was the married men against the single men. There were always plenty of players available to choose up sides and often the little guys didn't get chosen. The married men had some tough players. "Tiny" Nottage could really slug the ball. The field was directly behind ( about 100 ft.) the second row of cabins at Long Beach. Inevitably, someone would hit a ball into a campers breakfast cereal. When the game was over, it was time to head for the lake and cool off:coolsm: :patriot: :laugh:

SteveA

08-22-2006, 12:43 PM

The ball park has moved... my unit is now in dead center field... (In the 70's I used to be able to hit it into the marina... bet I couldn't now!)

The new ball park is on the other side of the marina.....

SteveA

Dickie B from HB

08-22-2006, 10:42 PM

Hi Bill,
I never worked at Chanticlar. As soon as I got my drivers license, I got a job at the Park, working for Wally Rugg. Jackie Lavin had the job before me. I would pick up the garbage early in the morning throughout the whole park. Then I would take another truck to Lakeport to pick up 600 lbs. of ice, and deliver that to the campers in the afternoon. That's a whole other story about the ice house in Lakeport. There were two trucks: a 46 & a 47 International pick ups. They were pretty beat, but they ran. That was about 1959 or 60.

I think that I heard that Spanos paid the Joneses $125,000 for the park around 1959. It was after that that all the development of the marina and the area beyond the old railroad tracks took place. Remember the laundramat that was built near the park entrance? Well, they gave me the job of opening it at 8:00 AM and cleaning all the machines. All this for $8.00 a day, seven days a week. But it was good. I loved working at the park. I did it for about four summers.

The last time I saw you was at the reunion in 2000. time flys.

Best regards,
Dick B.

carguy

08-22-2006, 10:51 PM

Dick:

I think I did the Ice and Garbage after you did it, or you did it after I was the guy. I went into the store after the garbage/iceman bit. I rember that old '47 International pickup with the driver's door removed, and NO seatbelts back then.

I thought you might have been at the reunion in 2000. That was a good time, but we had rain and the reunion was too short.

I will be going up to the Park this weekend for the first time since then.

carguy

08-22-2006, 11:11 PM

Dick:

I am sure now that I did the iceman/garbage routine after you. In 1959 I was working at Chanticleer Inn during the Summer. Billy DeGroot and I shared a cabin at Chanticleer Inn. We both worked in the kitchen. Pete Shull worked there also. Now Pete is no longer with us. He died in a fire not too long after the 2000 Reunion.

You mention that the Jones's sold the park to the Spanos Group for $125,00. What do you thing that property would go for today?? Speaking of the Jones', my dad really liked Frand and Doris. Frank would sneak away from Doris and come down to our camp and have a few "pops" with my dad. I can remember visiting them at their home in Rochester, NH in the off-season. They were real nice people, the salt of the earth.

I can remember when Doris Jones won the Lyman with the 30 HP Evinrude in a charity drawing in the Lakes Region. The boat was named the "Doris V." or something like that. Doris's middle name was Victoria. They kept it in a boat lift down near the flagpole. I think I only ever saw the Jones' use that nice Lyman about one time.

carguy

08-22-2006, 11:21 PM

Dick:

I forgot to mention in the previous post the names of a couple of our predecessors as the ice and garbage men at LSP. Jimmy Mitchell is the first one that I can remember. He drove an old beat-up ford Model A, or was it a Chevy pickup? Jimmy ended up marrying the boss's daughter, Barbara Jones. After Jiimy Mitchell came Slim Byrd who was a college student from Ware, MA. You might have come along not too long after Slim.

At one time the Park harvested their own ice. Remember the ice house, the old barn, located down from the Pavilion towards Long Beach. The ice was packed in straw and it was dark inside the barn. It was always wet around that barn from the melting ice. The use to keep Barbara Jones's yellow Old Town canoe on a stand outside of the ice barn. They must have stopped ice harvesting at the Park in the early 1950's.

No-Mo-Shun

08-23-2006, 12:31 AM

I remember the Model A ice truck all through the 40's and early 50's. At least I believe it was a Model A. The Summer of 1946 was the first time I had seen water skiing. Our next door neighbor on Long Beach was Jed Cleversey from Kittery, Me. During previous Summers, Jed and his friends, the Landrys towed an aquaplane behind his boat which was a 16 ft. inboard that he built. In the Summer of 46 they all began water skiing; even little June Landry, who was only 6 years old. After watching all this great fun for about 3 weeks, I got up the nerve to ask Jed for a tow around. He agreed. I was sure I could do it. After all, I was 12 years old. The good news is that I never fell down until the 3rd ride that Summer. That's when I decided to cross the wake. He really got me hooked. :eek: One of Jed's friends came to the lake with a big Lyman and a 50 HP four cyl. WW2 landing craft motor. That was a good ski boat. I could talk boats all night, but I'm leaving early tomorrow on a one week motorcycle trip with the gang to Yellowstone Park.

Dickie B from HB

08-23-2006, 01:55 AM

Hi Bill,
I remember the Jones's as being excellent stewards of LSP. They maintained it with great care, and were particular about the development. Other than the camps that the individual families built, I don't think that the place changed much during the whole time that they owned it.

regards,
Dick B.

mcall9031

08-23-2006, 02:46 PM

Hi

Attached photo is a view of Long Beach as of today.
These are the last nine camps looking to Ellacoya.
Mine is on the far left. It is the 9th from Ellacoya today.
It was the 10th. The fifth was removed several years ago.

Mike C

( SteveA: congratulations on your hole in one !!!! )

carguy

08-23-2006, 03:37 PM

This beach along with Ellacoya Beach is the nicest stretch of beach on the Lake. It always has been. The Mount use to announce when it passed the Park, "On your left is Lake Shore Park, home of one of the finest beaches on the Lake". You coud hear this over their PA system and the rumble of those twin diesels. You could always tell the Mount was coming before seeing her due to the diesel noise.

You used to be able to set your clocks when the mount went by the Park. It used the same route for many years with a few variances. It passed the Big Pier at 12:45 PM and 5:45 PM. Mothers instructed their children to come home for lunch, and then for supper when the Mount passed the Park.

On the route variances for the two daily trips the Mount took daily, I know of two of them on the southern side of the Lake. The Mount on occasion would take the Sleeper's Island Channel between Sleeper's and the mainland instead of going around Sleeper's Island between Rattlesnake Island and Sleeper's.

The Mount on other occasions would also pass through the channel at Glendale, between Belknap Point and Locke's Island, then pass the "Witches" and Governor's Island, entering Weirs Bay between Eagle Island and Governor's Island.

In those days the Mount after leaving the Weirs would only stop at Centre Harbor, Wolfeboro, Alton Bay, then back to the Weirs. The Mount didn't start going to Meredith until sometime in the early 1990's, and then only a couple of times a week.They didn't have all the nightime cruises that they have now. Once in a great while you would see the mount come by the Park at night on a "Moonlight Cruise" all lit up. It was a magnificent site on a dark night on the "Broads".

Dickie B from HB

08-23-2006, 04:14 PM

Hi Mike,
From the looks of it, your cabin is on the site of my grand parents cabin. In an earlier post I mentioned that my grand parents, Fred and Florence Croes tented there in the twenties, and gradually built their cabin over the years as the Jones family would allow. First a board floor, then wood sides about six feet high, and finally a wood and shingled roof. The cabin was painted yellow, and was named "The Seven Birches", because of a clump of seven birch trees that was directly in front, which the front porch was built around. The cabin was sold sometime in the sixties after they had passed away.

It's great to know who has the site now. Thanks for the picture.

Best Regards,
Dick B.

gravy boat

08-23-2006, 07:44 PM

Hi Uncle Dick!

Good to see you here on the Forum! Did you by any chance have any photos from the early days at LSP? I know that Mom did and Dad has them tucked away. I'll get over there soon and see what I can find. I remember many of them with Uncle Bud, Grandma and Grandpa Croes and many family members.

Susie

carguy

08-23-2006, 09:55 PM

I received my DVD today from Home Movie Depot. The DVD contains two 6" reels of 8mm movies that my Dad, Larry Clarke, took back at LSP from 1947-1952. I was able to use my digital camera and take a picture of the old LSP entrance sign that must have sat out in front of the Park for many years. It looks like it is from the 1920's. The sign was still out there in the early 1950's in a state of disrepair. I do not remember the last year it was standing. The sign was a two part "V' style configuration facing east and west on the old Rte. 11. It had lights, but If I recall correctly, the loads were always out, possibly broken by vandalism.

Dickie B from HB

08-23-2006, 11:34 PM

Hi Bill,
The sign was removed when Spanos bought the place in about 1959. That is when Wally Rugg and all adopted the pink and green colors for the park with the long tailed "L" on the word Lake. He had a pink and green Jeep too.

regards,
Dick B.

Pepper

08-23-2006, 11:47 PM

GravyBoat - photos, you say? Grandma's got lots of 'em! At the moment she is entertaining your cousins from Florida, but when they depart on Friday I'll ask her to spend some time digging through the photos and come up with some that I can scan and post. She's having a ball hearing all the stuff that's being posted here, and I just know she'll have a good time contributing! :D

SteveA

08-27-2006, 11:44 AM

Just wanted to post a public THANK YOU to carguy...

He was in LSP with his old 8mm films. converted to a DVD... we had a good crowd at the pavillion this morning when he showed the films.. (60-70 people)

(Round of applause for carguy)

The folks at LSP are already talking about setting up a "History" group.. to record and save the History of LSP.

Thanks to Pepper, Upthesaukee, graveyboat, mcdude, mcall, for the help... you folks are wonderful...!!!

SteveA

PS... I think we got a few more members of the forum from this....

PS... mcdude... the old converted 8mm also contains some Alton Bay pavillion footage from 1948-9 and some Wolfeboro, Meridith Bay stuff.

carguy

08-27-2006, 07:10 PM

SteveA:

Thank you for the kind words and the nice job you did setting up the pavilion for the talk.

mcdude

08-28-2006, 04:12 PM

PS... mcdude... the old converted 8mm also contains some Alton Bay pavillion footage from 1948-9 and some Wolfeboro, Meridith Bay stuff.

When will the next showing be? :D I'd spend lots of raffle money if a copy were to be made available for the Forum Fest III Raffle! McD

No-Mo-Shun

08-29-2006, 12:55 AM

When I was a little kid at LSP in the 40's, I was fishing in a rowboat with my uncle. It was either Allen Matthews or Kenny Foster; I can't remember which, but we were fishing off of Morrills's Beach about a 1/4 mile out. I had a line out on a bobber and along comes Chet Fox in his 12 foot runabout and he snagged my pole and dragged it over the side and it went to the bottom. Chet was very sorry and after a little preparation, he dove to the bottom and retrieved the pole for me. Chet and his sister, Marilyn lived on old Rt.11 and they would often come to the pavilion in the evening. I remember another instance that occured in the same area. Once again we were fishing and my uncle pushed down on my shoulders to force me to the bottom of the boat. Just then, a power boat goes by on one side of us while the skiier passes by on the other side with the tow rope passing over our heads. We got an apology later on for that one when they realised how dumb that was.

Billy B.

carguy

08-30-2006, 07:34 AM

Billy B.,

Chet Fox passed away a number of years ago. His widow, Dottie, used to be the secretary of the local New England Antique and Classic Boat Society. The family has a beautifully restored Gar Wood Triple Cockpit speedboat.

Back in the late 1940's and early 1050's, the Fox family had a black garwood with a hardtop, I think Gar Wood called it the Limousine model. The boat had a red painted bottom and it was a beautiful looking boat with the black hull and red bottom. That boat or possibly their current boat was named the "Marilyn" after Marilyn Fox.

Their boats were kept in the white boathouse along the shore just west of Ellacoya State Park. I remember peeking into that boathouse many years ago and the boat that I believe is their current mahogany Gar Wood was sitting in a state of disrepair having been vandalized. I saw the boat at the last Classic Boat Show that I attended at the Weirs in 1998, and it was beautifully restored. The annual boat show is now held in Meredith, usually the last weekend of July.

I was up at Lake Shore Park this past weekend, and I gave a talk to an audience of about 50-60 people when I showed the DVD that I had made up of 8mm movies that my dad took at the Park from 1947-1952.

No-Mo-Shun

08-30-2006, 12:05 PM

Car Guy, I remember the hardtop Gar Wood. We always wanted to try to get a good look at her from up close, but it was tough to do. Do you remember a boat which was kept in a boat house down in Alton Bay? The name was "75 Special". Supposedly, the name indicated that she could do 75 MPH, but when I would see her cruising by LSP about once per Summer, the speed was usually about 30 MPH. I think it was a Gar, but could have been a HackerCraft. It was a big boat; over 30 ft. I believe. Must have drunk up the gasolene. There are loads of boats from the park to talk about. Be back later. Bill B.:banana:

Captain Bob

08-30-2006, 08:46 PM

Hi folks,

I've been following this string, and I find it very informative!

Here's some things that may be more "Nostalgia" then "History" of Lake Shore Park, but they are some topics I haven't seen anyone mention yet, like...

Artists: I've just started a "collection" of original paintings by folks that have something to do with Lake Shore park. There was "Spike Larson", and I ended up with a watercolor last year. Now I want to add Bobby Steedman (Robert Steedman, now a watercolorist out of I think Gloucester), who I remember as a kid. Then there's Ralph William Williams, the "Breck Girl" painter - a relative of Carol's - who painted some gals at Lake Shore Park including my brother's former girl friend Cheryl Bates - but I doubt if I'll ever get one of his, as the Breck collection is in the Smithsonian! Anyone remember any other artists or painters, and where I can get my hands on some pictures?

Blueberries: Does anyone else remember that the blueberries used to seem more plentiful (say 50's and 60's) - and did anyone ever bring their berries to Armand the baker to have a pie made from your very own berries? I also remember my dad ready to drive away from the park with the family, but I had to be dragged out of the woods where I was getting another cup full...

Camps: I love remembering the old camp names. Durgins used to the "The Fivuvus". Puringtons were "Five P's In a Pod". Chase's were, and still are, "Chase Lounge". Remember "Tea for Two?" Others?

Looking forward to other people's memories!

carguy

08-30-2006, 10:27 PM

carguy

08-30-2006, 10:32 PM

Captain Bob:

I remember collecting blueberries on the back side of MT. ROWE at the then Belknap Recreation Area, now referred to as Gunstock. There was a humongous wild blueberry patch on the back side of the mountain from the chairlift. We gave them to Armand LePage to make Blueberry Pies at Lake Shore Park.There were also some good blueberry picking at the point between Baby Beach and Camp Samoset.

carguy

08-30-2006, 10:39 PM

No-Mo-Shun:

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3746&si=legionaire&what=allfields

How about this photo.

Dickie B from HB

08-31-2006, 12:28 AM

No-Mo-Shun

08-31-2006, 12:57 AM

No-Mo-Shun:

I remember the big Gar Wod from Alton Bay. It was one of the Legionaire Speedboats named the "70 Special". It was supposed to be capable of 70 MPH. Another fast boat from those times was the "Wildcat".
Check out the attached pamphlet.

CarGuy, The Legionaire must be the same boat I was thinking about. Only 70 MPH!!! That is really cooking. Thanks for the photo
Bill B.:laugh:

No-Mo-Shun

08-31-2006, 01:01 AM

Hi folks,

I've been following this string, and I find it very informative!

Here's some things that may be more "Nostalgia" than "History" of Lake Shore Park, but they are some topics I haven't seen anyone mention yet, like...

Artists: I've just started a "collection" of original paintings by folks that have something to do with Lake Shore park. There was "Spike Larson", and I ended up with a watercolor last year. Now I want to add Bobby Steedman (Robert Steedman, now a watercolorist out of I think Gloucester), who I remember as a kid. Then there's Ralph William Williams, the "Breck Girl" painter - a relative of Carol's - who painted some gals at Lake Shore Park including my brother's former girl friend Cheryl Bates - but I doubt if I'll ever get one of his, as the Breck collection is in the Smithsonian! Anyone remember any other artists or painters, and where I can get my hands on some pictures?

Blueberries: Does anyone else remember that the blueberries used to seem more plentiful (say 50's and 60's) - and did anyone ever bring their berries to Armand the baker to have a pie made from your very own berries? I also remember my dad ready to drive away from the park with the family, but I had to be dragged out of the woods where I was getting another cup full...

Camps: I love remembering the old camp names. Durgins used to the "The Fivuvus". Puringtons were "Five P's In a Pod". Chase's were, and still are, "Chase Lounge". Remember "Tea for Two?" Others?

Looking forward to other people's memories!

Captain Bob, Our camp name was "Boerner's Korner". It was the 4th cabin from the fence at Minnehaha Beach.

Dickie B from HB

08-31-2006, 02:04 AM

Hi Bill,
Do you remember the fellow that cruised at LSP in that steam powered launch called the "Rum Runner"? That was a great boat. As I recall, it was a double ended hull, like a canoe, only larger. He would stand in the stern with a tiller, as the engine chugged along, going just a few knots per hour.

As kids, we wanted fast boats, but now that I'm older, I think that he had a good thing going.

regards,
Dick B.

carguy

08-31-2006, 08:34 AM

Dickie B.,

I remember a gray colored steam launch that use to come over from Wolfeboro area and dock at the Big Pier. In my DVD on Lake Shore Park, that launch is in the film taken in 1949 at the Park during a boat parade on Long Beach.

Every year on the weekend after Labor Day, there is a big steamboat meet held at Lee's Mills on Moultonboro Bay. There are photos of the meet in the Gallery Section of this forum.

Captain Bob

08-31-2006, 09:01 PM

Car Guy & Dickie B,

I just gotta make some blueberry waffles for the grandkids this weekend, since we'll be up at camp! Good memories.

No-Mo-Shun

09-01-2006, 12:23 PM

Hi Car Guy and And Captn Bob-
I remember as a kid in the forties and fifties taking the chair lift to the top of Mt. Rowe ($.25 a ride) to pick blueberries with my mother. She picked and I ate. But she was good and got a pail full. That's a lot of picking. She would bake pies, which to this day were the best I've ever had.

But, my fondest memory is the sunny mornings sitting on the bench seats that surrounded the oilcloth covered table, just inside the front of our camp on Long Beach, with the two large front windows pulled open, to reveal an uncluttered view of the lake and the Osipees (sp?) on the far side while my mother served us incredible blueberry pancakes for breakfast. :rolleye2:

Best regards,
Dick B.

Dick, Those pancakes sure were good. When breakfast was over, it was off to the ball field for me and play softball til noon. Another great thing about that cabin was going to sleep at night and hearing the waves lap up on the beach. In my later teen years, I would finish breakfast and hop in the boat, headed for "Aquavue" and work. My Summer job was helping Uncle Allen build cabins. He taught me a lot about carpentry. If we got too hot, we would jump in the lake and toss rocks to make a nice sandy bottom. That job took a couple of years. We would build one cabin a Summer. Foster's was the first and Ellie's was last. Any bent nails found in the cabins could probab:D ly be blamed on me.
Bilbo
:coolsm:

Dickie B from HB

09-01-2006, 07:19 PM

Hi All-
I have a nostalgia question. Does anyone remember the Army Duck that used to come to the Park in the late forties? It would come across the lake, and drive onto the beach at short beach or long beach. It would take campers for a ride for $.50. I can remember getting on it at the old ball field. It took us up towards Samoset and back for a half hour ride. A great thrill for a little kid.

Dick B.

carguy

09-01-2006, 07:43 PM

Dickie:

In my DVD on LSP there coverage on the Army DUKW (Duck) at LSP. I look to be about six years old, so that makes it about 1949. The DVD shows the passsengers boarding the Duck at the Pavilion, then the scene shifts to the Duck entering the Lake at Long Beach followed by the Duck exiting the Lake and returning to the Pavilion. The DVD I refer to is the one that I had made up of my dad's 8mm movies taken at the Park from 1947-1952. Other highlights are a boat parade and the raising of the flagpole along the waterfront at Lake Shore Parkin September 1949.

Here is a picture of the Duck exiting the water at Lake Shore Park on Long Beach. This photo was taken with my digital camera of my DVD video playing on my laptop computer's 14" widescreen. The quality could be better.

carguy

09-01-2006, 08:22 PM

Dickie B and N0-Mo-Shun:

Here is a photo taken from my DVD on Lake Shore Park and copied with my digital camera off my computer. The boat is a nice late 1920's Chris-Craft Triple Cockpit. The driver/owner of the boat is a man named Ray Hawkes who was married to Elsie Hermanson. This boat has to be a painted over Mahogany boat. I don't think Chris Craft made any white hulled boats in those years. After WWII, Chris Craft made some white painted cedar hulled utilities due to the shortage of mahogany.

seadoochick

09-04-2006, 09:06 AM

I am new at this. But could not resist getting my two cents in. I too spent many summers at LSP. From the time I was born until we moved down the road to Aqua Vue.

So hi to all cousins on this site!!

Many memories even after we left as my parents would go to LSP every night to play poker with aunts, uncles and grandparents,while my sister and I would go to the pavillion to dance and hang out with our friends.

We lived in the first cabin in the second row on long beach.Next to Ellocoya.
My Dad built that one.

One day we had a snapping turtle in our foot bath by the front door. Was that cousin Bill?

I have a picture some where of Ellie B pushing me in the water in a big wash tub. LSP is where I learned to swim and spent many nights staying with Grandma in the Birches cabin on Long Beach.

My Mom and AUnt once spent hours making a dress for me out of bread wrappers to wear in the costume contest they had every year. I think I won a prize.

Ah, what fun to remember!

Hope all is well on the left coast.

Judy

Dickie B from HB

09-05-2006, 02:46 AM

Welcome to this posting fest. This is becoming a real family reunion.

Bill and I were talking last week about the boat your Dad had when you and your family lived at LSP. In the 40's it was one of the few boats that was pulled up on the beach at Long Beach. I think it was the first boat that belonged to anyone in our extended family. That little light row boat, the Feather, was the first boat that allowed any of us kids to get out onto the water.

Speaking of snapping turltes, do you remember that giant snapping turtle (about 12 to 15 inches in diameter) that the men pulled out of the lake in about 48 or 49? I have a picture of it on the beach with a crowd of people standing around. It created quite a stir. After everyone was done taking pictures they put it in the swamp (now the marina).

Best Regards,
Dick B.

seadoochick

09-06-2006, 03:05 PM

Hi Dickie B.

I don't remember the snapping turtle, except the one in the foot bath.

I do remember the moose that swam up on the shore and died one year.

He swam to Ellacoya Beach.

Yes, the feather was the only boat on long beach for awhile. Mr. Bailey had the big yacht anchored off shore however.
I think the feather is now at the bottom of the lake to make a home for fish.

Sure is fun to read all the remeberances from everyone. It was a great place for kids to spend the summer. Weren't we lucky!!!!

kudo's to Steve A and all for providing all the post cards and pictures to preserve the wonderful history of LSP.

Judy:)

gravy boat

09-06-2006, 07:34 PM

Hello, Cousin! Welcome and enjoy!

Pepper

09-06-2006, 09:58 PM

Hello, Cousin! Welcome and enjoy!

I just figured out who Seadoochick is! WELCOME cousin! Now will you please speak to your neice in Texas and tell her if she doesn't get registered and start posting soon, GravyBoat and I are gonna do something desperate! :eek: :D ;)

Porch Sitter

09-07-2006, 09:58 PM

Ok…Pepper I’m in!
Add another family member to the forum/reunion!
Hi ya’ll---Seadoochick, Pepper, Gravy, Dickie B, No-Mo-Shun, your Texas connection chiming in!

My LSP memories are limited but I do remember entering a summer costume contest as the “5 Little Indians” and pumping water from the well by the pavilion. However, with all this talk of LSP, I had to confiscate some old photos from my parents, just thought I would share this one, I am guessing 1940’s? Does anyone know who it is? Pepper check with your MIL!

Enjoy!!
Debbie

Pepper

09-07-2006, 10:12 PM

It's about time PorchSitter!!!!! :D You've been lurking for far too long, living at the lake vicariously through all of us here year-round! :rolleye2: Very nice to FINALLY have you posting. ;)

Now, with regard to the above photo, I'm going to take a shot in the dark (because my MIL is asleep right now) and guess that the adorable cherub in the photo above is SeadooChick. Am I close?

John A. Birdsall

09-08-2006, 12:08 PM

While I don't recall ever staying there, we did visit it quite often as we had neighbors from Reading Mass that used to have a place there and if my memory is right it was late 50's or early 60. Their names were Basners, Lets see fathers name was Fred, Mother was Arlene, and then three boys Fred, John, and Charlie, charlie was the youngest and of the three boys he is the only one alive today. I think Arlene is in a nursing home, and Fred had died.
John Died last year I think.

My impression of LSP was a small city, but a lot of friendly people.:emb:

Dickie B from HB

09-08-2006, 04:42 PM

Hello Debbie,

That picture was probably taken in the early 40's. If I'm not mistaken it was taken in front of Charly Dick's place which was to the left of the Birches. Bill might know for sure.

If so, then that must be Joe Reagen's dock in the background. If someone has a picture of his old lake boat, I would like to see that again.

For any current residents of LSP, do they still hold the costume contest at the Pavilion? That was always a big deal, with two or three hundred kids dressed in homemade costumes of which many were extremely clever.

Best Regards,
Dick B.

Porch Sitter

09-08-2006, 09:32 PM

Hi Dickie B,

I think they do still hold that contest - I beleive that Seadoochick and my mother even judged it last year!!!

No-Mo-Shun

09-09-2006, 12:53 AM

:devil: Just got back from a trip, so some catching up to do. I don't remember the turtle in the foot bath, but I do like it, so maybe I'm guilty. The photo does look like it is in front of Charlie Dick's place. I wonder if we can come up with the names of all of the cabin owners on Long Beach, starting at Minnehaha Beach. No's 1 & 2 are blank for me, no. 3 was Jane Banks and later Bud Croes. No. 4 was Boerner's, no. 5 --Jed Cleversey, no.6--Blumstedt's, no. 7---Mather's, no.8--Bailey's, no. 9--- Austin's, no. 10--Fred and Florence Croes, no.11-- Charlie Dick, no. 12--Scott's and later Smitty. Second row was Matthews at the fence, Doc and Mickey Smith and Nelson's with Joe Reagan alongside the swamp(marina). What did I miss? There must be plenty.

gravy boat

09-13-2006, 09:47 AM

HI All,

I just found one of my Mom's scrapbooks, including Winni Pageant info/photos from 1948 and 1949 (Mom was the runner up in 1948 and 2nd runner up in 1949), and found some nice photos of LSP. There were only tents, so I'm guessing the photos are prior to 1935. I hve a photo of Mom, No-mo-shun and Henry Banks on the LSP beach, summer 1935. One of Gramma Gladys, washing some clothes in the lake; a few of the tent and camping setup.

Hope to find a scanner so I can share some photos!

Gravy

Pepper

09-13-2006, 09:59 PM

Gravy - I've got a scanner at work. Come by any time, the laptop's always there with me, and we can scan, save, burn to cd, whatever! While we're at it, I'll print some out for Grandma Adele! It'll make her day! :D

BTW - PorchSitter isn't answering me ... who's the cherub in the photo above????? :confused:

Porch Sitter

09-14-2006, 07:34 PM

Hi Pepper!

I don't know who it is ? maybe seadoochick does??
I thought about putting together a DVD/slideshow on Aqua Vue and its beginings after digging through all the old pics, but I am not sure who some of the people are and this was one of them! Thought that would be easier than a scrapbook!
I'll share when done (could be months)

Pepper

09-14-2006, 09:41 PM

Oh! Now I get it - so, I'll ask Grandma Adele to check it out next time she's here (where there's internet access) and as soon as I have an answer I'll let you know! :D

mcdude

09-15-2006, 04:36 PM

A few more postcards....
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/lakeshorepark.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15014/20scanviewfromcastle_1.jpg
A Library of Congress Photo - early 1900s. View from Kimball's Castle of Rattlesnake Island and Lakeshore Park.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanshortbeach.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanlakeshorepark2.jpg
"Hope to have fresh caught salmon that Lee caught for supper tonight. Trailer living isn't too bad.?
:look:

carguy

09-15-2006, 07:05 PM

Thanks McDude, for posting the postacards. Some clarification on what we are looking at in these photos: The top post card is of Long Beach at Lake Shore Park (LSP). The second one down is a black and wife photo of the Chanticleer Inn next to Belknap Point. In the right hand side background of the photo is Lake Shore Park (Carr's Point) followed by Diamond Island then Rattlesnake Island. The third colored postcard down is of short beach at LSP with the "Big Pier" in the background. This postcard looks to be from the 1920's. The last colored postcard labled Lake Shore Park on Lake Winnipesaukee, N.H. is a mistake. The shore line pictures are not of Lake Shore Park.

mcdude

09-17-2006, 05:15 PM

Carguy: I received those photos you sent along of the stations on the Lakeshore Railroad (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11664#post11664). Thanks! Here is the one of the Lakeshore Park Station

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15014/lakeshoreparkstation.jpg

and a few more postcards

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanbathingbeach_.jpg

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanlakeshorepark1.JPG

Captain Bob

09-20-2006, 09:38 PM

Thanks to SteveA for starting this string, and all the great input! I've always loved Lake Shore Park history. You know the wooden water tower above the rail bed? I've always wondered whether it was for camp use only (it was lake water pumped up to the tower), or if it served the trains. And here's something not too many people know - not far from the wooden water tower, on top of some boulders at a higher elevation, there are imprints from steel tower leg supports set in concrete on the boulders, if I remember right forming a square like 10' x 10' or so, that I always guessed used to be a steel water tower probably smaller and older than the wooden one that remains! Any info?

carguy

09-20-2006, 09:46 PM

Captain Bob:

Yes, I remember a second lake Shore Park Water Tower. It was smaller and painted yellow and green. If you were standing on the steps of the pavilion and looking at the big old gray water tower, the smaller water tower was situated about 75-100 feet to the left towards the LSP entrance road (the hump on the hill).

Rattlesnake Gal

09-21-2006, 07:20 AM

Does this shot (a single from a stereo view) look like it was taken from Lake Shore Park?
Thanks!

carguy

09-21-2006, 08:23 AM

RG:

That picture was taken at a higher elevation, possibly from lower elevations of Locke's Hill near where the Chanticleer Inn was located. I would say somewhere between Greystone and Chanticleer. If you look at the attached picture in this post, I would guess that the photographer in the picture you posted would have been standing in the area on the right hand side of the attached photo in this posting.

Captain Bob

09-23-2006, 08:27 AM

Captain Bob:

Yes, I remember a second lake Shore Park Water Tower.

Thank you, carguy! You are the virtual encyclopedia! After 50 years, you're the first person to tell me that my guess was correct! Yes, the spot you mention is where I found the old tower "foot" imprints.

mcdude

09-29-2006, 07:25 AM

Hi Steve

This is the only picture of the Lake Shore Park Inn I have ever seen.
Built around 1890. Burnt in 1910

Mike C. from Long Beach LSP

Available from an antique book website, at a very steep price!($85), an old 1892 Brochure for the Lakeshore Park Inn.
Book Description: Patriot Print, Concord, New Hampshire, 1892. 48mo - over 3" - 4" tall. 6 page booklet; text and illustrations; summer resort on Lake Winnipesaukee; original wrappers; slightly wrinkled; very good condition.

If interested pm me for more information. I can't give out the url of the website or RG will not be happy with me.

mcdude

02-02-2007, 05:11 PM

Old Postcard of the Lakeshore Park Pavilion - Site of Forumfest III. If you attended FFIII and saw the fine state of this building today you'd be impressed with the job of preservation done by the folks at Lakeshore Park.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/lakeshorepavilion.jpg

Funny....when I was bidding for this card on e-bay I received this pm in my winni.com mailbox.....
You're killing me! LOL
I'm XXX on e-bay ... I'm also SteveA on the forum! :)

You outbid me for the LSP Pavillion postcard! :)

Here ya go Steve!!:D

SteveA

02-02-2007, 06:08 PM

I've not seen the short beach card before. It looks like at one time there was a "covered bench" on the front right corner of Big Pier..

Thanks for posting it.

SteveA

SteveA

02-02-2007, 06:17 PM

This is a great postcard... and Thank You McDude for posting it here! :)

I've never seen this view... and yes... allot of the folks at LSP are very serious about preserving the History of LSP.

To the Victor go the Spoils :laugh:

SteveA

carguy

02-04-2007, 01:37 AM

McDude:

Nice purchase on the postcard of the pavilion. I have not seen that particular card before.

Steve A:

Take it from an old ebayer (member since 12/97), if you really want something in ebay bad enough, snipe bid it with the MAXIMUM amount that you would be willing to pay for it.

MWSP

02-17-2007, 12:14 AM

While looking for more pageant information, I came across this story in the July 10, 1947 edition of The Laconia Evening Citizen:

Sees Flying Discs At Lake Shore Park
Bill Rowlin of Providence, 17-year old youth, who is spending the summer at Lake Shore Park in Gilford reported to the Evening Citizen that he saw three flying discs at about 10:05 this morning over Lake Winnipesaukee going in the direction of Alton. He took pictures he hopes will reveal the presence of three objects about 5,000 feet up.
Earlier in the week Thomas Dale, son of the governor, reported seeing flying discs in about the same location going in the same direction.

mcall9031

02-24-2007, 01:26 PM

Here is what the Gov's son saw.

See case 733

http://mimufon.org/historical_folders/nicap_pages/ReportUFOWave1947_SectionIII.htm

Mike C

xredvette

03-31-2007, 10:48 AM

About ten years ago it was still there and still named the "Wee Hoose". That was my first trip up to Lake Winnipesaukee back in 1946 or 1947. The Wee Hoose belonged to Jim and Millie Foster, Scottish immigrants from Andover MA, who also started with a tent platform I believe in the 1920's and then grew into a "cottage". Uncle Jim and Aunt Millie were my mom's aunt and uncle, therefore my great-aunt and great-uncle, and of course "Wee Hoose" is the Scottish dialect for wee house, small house, and small it was.

The Wee Hoose is still there and has been in my family for some time. My Grandfather, also a Scottish immigrant, owned it for many years and then my Dad purchased it from them about 30 years ago. Sad to say my Dad just passed away this past December and left the Wee Hoose to myself and 4 siblings. I'm the Voting Member and the holder of the deed.

I have so many fond memories of LSP and the Wee Hoose. Spending summers running on the dirt roads barefoot. Good friends, great times! Over the years my dad and I upgraded the ole Wee Hoose, insulating, adding on as the bylaws would allow, completely redoing the interior, adding indoor plumbing and a shower!!! It turned into a year round home for my dad although my family still refers to it as "the camp". My dad loved the Wee Hoose and treasured his time there. When he got older and could not stay by himself during the winter months he couldn't wait to get back to LSP and his Wee Hoose.

We are in the process of having a head stone made for him and the family is unanimous in having an image of the Wee Hoose with mountains and lake behind sandblasted into the stone. He loved that place so much it is a fitting tribute to what he would have wanted to be remembered for.

Thanks for letting me share....

Jim

White Rook

03-31-2007, 12:38 PM

here are the pictures

Hi,

In the upstairs office of Irwin Marine, there's a photo of Jack's brother, Jim Irwin (Lord rest his soul) driving a boat called Miss Winnipesaukee. Also, wasn't Jim Irwin married to a former Miss Winnipesaukee?

As an aside, I had the pleasure to perform marine gear repairs on a lot of antique and classic boats for Irwin Marine. The boat owned by Corning Benton, owner of Eagle Island comes to mind along with a boat owned by Steve Kace of Marine Patrol. I had a 35' Chris Craft there from 1983 to 1990. Ahhhhhh....those were the days!

White Rook

SteveA

07-22-2007, 07:14 AM

Big changes at LSP. The old office at the entrance has finally been replaced.

Much of the work on the new building was done by members.. and the "new" office came in under budget!

1481

1482

SteveA

07-22-2007, 07:31 AM

In an earlier post in this thread SteveA made reference to the Miss Lake Shore Park beauty contest starting in the early 1960's. It actually started earlier than that, in the 1950's. Two winners that I can remember, Donna DeGroot and Peggy Weeks went on to win the Miss Winnipesaukee pageant held at Irwin's Winnipesaukee Gardens at the Weirs. I think Jerry Donahue's sister won the Miss Winnipesaukee Pageant prior to Donna and Peggy winning it.

CarGuy,

You'll get a kick out of this! History Repeats Itself!

http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070716/CITIZEN_01/107160160/-1/citizen0102

carguy

07-22-2007, 01:56 PM

CarGuy,

You'll get a kick out of this! History Repeats Itself!

http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070716/CITIZEN_01/107160160/-1/citizen0102

SteveA:

Thanks for sharing this news with me and the Forum. I guess good genes must run in the family. Melissa must be Bobby's and Janice's daughter?

barkerrd

03-19-2008, 09:09 PM

carguy

03-19-2008, 10:24 PM

Barkerrd:

The Amesbury Skiffs were painted white with green trim along the gunnels. They had about 10 of then parked on the boat slip by the Big Pier. Before that going back into the 1940's and earlier, the row boats were Dory type looking boats, painted yellow with gray trim on the gunnels.

Carguy

mcdude

04-24-2008, 10:06 AM

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/tothebeachlakeshore2.jpg
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http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/tothebeachlakeshorepark.jpg
.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/lakeshoreparkpanorama.jpg

CLICK HERE to enlarge this postcard (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/lakeshoreparkpanorama.jpg)

Looks like the dock at Short Beach where the Mt. Washington used to stop at one time. I think only the cement part of this dock remains. Looks like most folks camped at Lakeshore Park in these days. I'm sure SteveA or Carguy can fill us in on the details!

carguy

04-24-2008, 01:26 PM

McDude:

The store at LSP used to sell this panorama postcard when I was a kid. The photo pictures the "Big Pier" with Short Beach to the right. I estimate the time frame to be the late 1920's. Our cottage was located up behind the big tan colored tent on the right rear of the photo.

The pier still looks pretty much the same this day. It has been redone a few times since this photo was taken.

This was my favorite swimming spot when I was a kid.

Lounger

05-03-2008, 09:13 AM

Nobody has posted on here since july 2007 . Well, I have to thank Carguy , McDude , SteveA and all the others for the great photos . I was at LSP from 1954 to 1972 . Reading the different posts on here reminded me of alot of things that I had forgotten , like the ice truck , the barn for storage across Rt.11 and Ruggs pontoon boat . When I was really little , I remember there was a row of Amesbury skiffs by big pier . I think they were white and each had a number . I really enjoyed this thread ,

We need to get another string going to talk about the "old days" at Lake Shore Park. Oh, I know, we live in the present - but's it's great to remember!

Q: Our late dads wouldn't have a common first name, would they? Fourth letter "d"?

mcdude

05-10-2008, 11:13 AM

I ran across this on Google.....the history of the park from their website.

HISTORY of LAKESHORE PARK (http://lakeshorepark.org/history.aspx)

http://lakeshorepark.org/images/gasdock1.gif
The Gas Dock

barkerrd

05-13-2008, 09:51 PM

Q: Our late dads wouldn't have a common first name, would they? Fourth letter "d"?

No , my father's name is Ray and he is not "late " . We had the first camp after crossing the foot bridge heading towards Ellacoya .
In the picture titled "the gas dock" , the little kid in far left is me I think . I used to hang around there so much , they kicked me out .
Anyone have any pictures of the marina directly across from the gas pumps ? I would love to see my Dads Cris-Craft again .

SteveA

06-06-2008, 03:21 PM

Nice story from this weeks "Gilford Steamer".
See page 7 of the .PDF attached.

Nice Job by Dianne Mitton of the Thompson Ames Historical Society.
She has written a number of wonderful stories about the history of Gilford. :cheers:

http://www.gilfordsteamer.com/pdf/GIL.2008.06.05.pdf

Mr. V

07-23-2008, 08:11 PM

Here is a link to someone's Lake Shore Park home movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFyE--Y7UQQ&feature=related

SteveA

07-24-2008, 11:49 AM

That was very good. Hard to figure the date.. but if you noticed it was before the footbridge was built over the marina.

I'll bet Carguy will know when that was filmed. He has some very old footage from the 40's that I hope he'll post here sometime.

PS... Marine Patrol wouldn't be very happy with some of the shots at the very end of the film. :eek:

ljn

09-14-2008, 01:08 PM

I am a new member..don't really know how to use this forum, but here goes!

Just visited LSP after 50 years. Spent all my summers there in the 50's. Such great memories.

Does anyone remember...sleeping on the beach, big pier, big rock, the bunnyhop, costume contests, etc.

People...Janice Pinkman, Maureen Ronan, Bobby Blumsted, Johnny Blumsted, Cherry Ellis, Peggy Weeks, Billy DeGroot (my 1st boyfriend) and many others.

Boy...LSP has really changed. do the cabins now have indoor plumbing? Where are the tents?

LJN

Mr. V

09-16-2008, 10:18 PM

Remember hiking to the Pavilion every morning and pumping the well to fill your Thermos with drinking water for cabin use?

Remember the Pazoozies?

I shudder to think if the one by the Pavilion leeched into the water table for the pump.

If you look close, you can still see the graffiti carved into the Pavilion, outside the entrance to the hall.:look:

SteveA

09-17-2008, 03:52 PM

BroadHopper

09-25-2008, 09:48 AM

I use to walk across Camp Samoset on the old railroad bed from Terrace Hill Road in the late '60's, early '70's. There was a teen dance every Friday or Saturday night with live teen bands from Mass. Met my first girl friend at one of the teen dances, Ellen Butman.
My mother use to do our laundry at the landromat that was at the entrance. The family met a few LSP families that way and we were invited to a few socials at the park.
I knew the Cooks as their son Gary was in my class at LHS. I did a lot of waterskiing out front. Some of the boats in the Winnipesaukee Water Ski Racing Association were from LSP.
Does anyone know what happen to Ellen Butman and another women Dawn Daily? Often wonder how they are doing.

Mr. V

09-26-2008, 09:57 PM

My inventive engineer-uncle from California showed me as a lad how to make a flying UFO out of dry cleaner bags, cardboard strips and birthday candles.

We lit one off one night at LSP and caught holy heck from the park manager.

For some reason he feared the woods would catch fire.:devil:

BJAM

11-05-2008, 11:21 AM

This whole Lake Shore Park thread is like listening to my Mother all over again. She grew up at Lake Shore Park, and my Grand father Clinton Flanders was the section foreman from West Alton to Lakeport. My Mother was born in 1914 in a farm house across from th enterance to Ellacoya Park. She has since passed, but I have alot of info that she had. I have to take the time to find it. Thank you so much for this thread.

nj2nh

11-07-2008, 03:15 PM

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanlakeshorepavillion.jpg[/QUOTE]

Hey, my father knows Anne Carr! He worked at Union Hospital until his retirement in the late 1980's. I am sorry, but that is totally weird. I don't know what made me look!

Love this forum and the history section in particular!!!!!!

nj2nh

mcdude

01-04-2009, 11:29 AM

I'm posting this brochure in the Lakeshore Park thread since the Fairview appears to be adjacent to it and overlooking what is now Ellacoya beach. (it appears that the cabins are very close to the site of the recent allegedly illegal tree cutting (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6998)at Ellacoya). Directions advise the traveller to take the train to the Lakeshore Park stop. Perhaps SteveA or Carguy or one of our other Lakeshore Park friends can tell us if these cottages are still there?
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairviewcover.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairview1.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairview2.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairview2a.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairview3.jpg
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15143/medium/fairview4.jpg

Apples

01-04-2009, 12:47 PM

Oh my gosh.....the memories from these pictures. LSP was a frequent "hot spot" for class trips from Alton Central School, later the Girl Scouts had camping trips there. A trip down memory lane of a happier time in life. My family had a cottage near LSP and I spent many many hours walking the beach towards LSP, fishing in the brook there.........seems like there were lots of suckers in that brook. Thanks for the memories!!!!

Mr. V

07-14-2009, 11:49 PM

Oh my gosh.....the memories from these pictures. I spent many many hours walking the beach towards LSP, fishing in the brook there.........seems like there were lots of suckers in that brook. Thanks for the memories!!!!

After they built the marina at LSP, we used to catch pickerel in there.

mcdude

07-30-2009, 12:50 PM

A newly acquired postcard
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/lakeshoreparkshortbeach7-30-2009_1_30_08_PM.JPG

another rare photo of the lakeshore park inn
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15014/medium/lakeshoreinn7-30-2009_1_44_50_PM.JPG

SteveA

07-30-2009, 05:06 PM

What a find on that Pic of the Inn. The only one I've ever seen was the one posted by "mcall" earlier in the thread!

I search all the time for all things LSP. Good catch on that one..:cheers:
and thanks for sharing it.

Dickie B from HB

08-05-2009, 12:39 PM

This picture might jog some memories. It was taken at Big Pier about 1961 (give or take a year).

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/506/medium/Girls_of_LSP.JPG

I can't remember all the girls names, but in the top row starting at the third from the left is Carol Eggers, Peggy Weeks, and Wendy Shull, with Barbara Brown at the top right. Bottom row left is Cherie Ellis with Nancy Boudet (fifth from left), and Faye Brown.

There was never a shortage of girls at Lake Shore Park.

Dick B.

mcdude

08-05-2009, 04:59 PM

This picture might jog some memories. It was taken at Big Pier about 1961 (give or take a year).
Dick B.

Dickie B: That's a great photo!

.
BroadHopper "Lakeshore Park? Judging from the distance landscape, the first two pictures are scenes from North Beach. The third is from South Beach as I see Diamond Island at the very left.

SteveA:
The first two are of what is now called Short Beach.. hard to place the third, but it looks like the area just to the left of Big Pier.

Amazing to see how much that beach section has changed. The beach in the photos is wider than the beach that is there now. The second picture shows what is the opening to the present marina.. (I think)
__________________

The first two pictures were taken just east of the marina entrance at LSP. The time frame was either the late forties or early fifties. The water that you can see crossing the beach at the bottom of the second picture is probably the outlet of the creek that drained into the lake. It was converted into the marina in '58 or '59. I remember the sailboat in those pictures was always there. In twenty years I never saw it off the mooring. The third picture looks to be earlier (early forties), and appears to be the boat ramp and the rental boats to the right of big pier.

Dick B.

SIKSUKR

08-05-2009, 10:11 PM

Great stuff guys.Love this history of Winni!The girls are ok too.

SteveA

07-06-2010, 05:48 PM

Ok... this thread is where it all started for me here on Winnipesaukee.com. 1,000 posts ago. Inspired by RG's and McDudes "History" threads.

So, I decided to come back to this thread for 2 reasons, one to refresh the LSP Thread, but more importantly to say thanks to Don, and all of the great folks I've got to know here on Winni.com.

Too many to mention name by name, but I have to say to Pineneddles, Gravy Boat, Rattlesnake Gal and Guy, Pepper, WinniDixie, McDude, Upthesaukee, Island Girl, Broad Hopper, Bear Islander, Siksukr, Quilt Lady and DRH, AG, Samiam, and yes even FLL, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.

You've all made me laugh, and when all is said and done... a good laugh is priceless.

I'm sure I've missed many more.

SteveA

SteveA

07-18-2010, 06:47 PM

A very nice lady from CT contacted the office at LSP looking to find me.
She had a number of pictures and post card from the 50's.

She is actually the person Dickie B ID's in post 142 as Wendy Shull. She is now Wendy Rittweger... and here are her post cards and pictures. (She also has a copy of the same photo in post 142, and can ID several more of the ladies.)

These photo's are used with her permission.

Two postcards not previously posted. No dates on them, but notice the gas pumps in front of the Pavilion.

3997

Wendy tells me these photo's are from The Miss LSP Contest in 1957 or 56.

3998

3999

Thank You Wendy! It was a pleasure to meet you today.

Dickie B from HB

07-20-2010, 02:55 PM

Hi Steve,
Thanks to you and Wendy for those pictures. They bring back a lot of memories.
It made me think that a sub-thread for the history of the park could be memories of the pavilion. Who could imagine what life at the park would have been like without the pavilion? During my time at the park (the 40's thru the early 60's), the pavilion was the center for all that was happening.
It was the gathering place for almost everyone.
Every morning we made a trip to the pavilion, hauling our 2 gallon water jug to fill at the pump next to the store, and often buy Armand's cinnamon rolls for a nickel a piece.
I could go on for pages about the pavilion (just the evolution of the juke box is worth several paragraphs), but I'll save it for other posts.
If it isn't already, the pavilion should be dedicated as a historic landmark.

Best regards,
Dick B

SteveA

08-18-2010, 10:18 PM

This is one I haven't seen before. Postmarked from Meridith July, 1948

4110

4111

oche16

11-16-2010, 01:07 PM

Hope to revive this wonderful thread.

Im trying to get a lay of the land of our little neighborhood away from home. Although we've only jogged through LSP and Ellacoya on occasion, the place feels warm and comfortable to me and I can appreciate all these fond memories. Thanks to all for sharing them, and the terrific photos!

On my old pc, I was able to barely make out the old Inn. It's very small, though unmistakable. Im uncertain of the spot. But, looking from Scenic Dr. I believe the Inn sat at the base of the steep Route 11 incline on the outside of the curve and just to the right of the entrance into the Park. Is this correct?

Also, Did the photographer take the one and only photo from an earlier post post from Rt11?

You're all lucky people to have experienced this massive "family" atmosphere. Sounds like Walton's Mountain -on steroids. :)

Thanks in advance for the help!
Steve

oche16

11-16-2010, 01:11 PM

Hope to revive this wonderful thread.

Im trying to get a lay of the land of our little neighborhood away from home. Although we've only jogged through LSP and Ellacoya on occasion, the place feels warm and comfortable to me and I can appreciate all these fond memories. Thanks to all for sharing them, and the terrific photos!

On my old pc, I was able to barely make out the old Inn. It's very small, though unmistakable. Im uncertain of the exact setting. But, looking from Scenic Dr. I believe the Inn sat at the base of the steep Route 11 incline on the outside of the curve (east) and just to the right of the entrance into the Park. Directly on the corner... Is this correct?

Also, Did the photographer take the one and only photo from an earlier post post from Rt11?

You're all lucky people to have experienced this massive "family" atmosphere. Sounds like Walton's Mountain -on steroids. :)

Thanks in advance for the help!
Steve

SteveA

11-17-2010, 06:37 PM

On my old pc, I was able to barely make out the old Inn. It's very small, though unmistakable. Im uncertain of the exact setting. But, looking from Scenic Dr. I believe the Inn sat at the base of the steep Route 11 incline on the outside of the curve (east) and just to the right of the entrance into the Park. Directly on the corner... Is this correct?

Also, Did the photographer take the one and only photo from an earlier post post from Rt11

I've been told the hotel was to the left side of the entrance, across from the present "office building". I've also been told that there are some remains of the foundation of the hotel, but I've not been able to locate any.

The two pictures posted are the only ones I've seen.

Thanks for posting and reviving the thread. Maybe we'll get some more old pictures posted! (hint, hint) :)

Thanks for the blow up of the old postcard. I spotted the hotel in the picture, your "zoom" view is very helpful.

SteveA

11-17-2010, 06:47 PM

History of Lake Shore Park

The year was 1890 and the date was June 17, the Concord & Montreal Railroad finished a rail line from Lakeport to Alton Bay. This railroad ran through Lake Shore Park which was owned by the Boston & Maine railroad and was one of the stops along the way.
The Following is from the The Boston & Maine Bulletin Vol.XVI no.4
Heretofore the entire south shore of Lake Winnipesaukee, from Long Bay, at the outlet of the Lake, to Alton Bay, on its southeastern corner, has been practically wilderness, nearly unoccupied by villages or hamlets, or by individual homesteads or establishments, except at points very near either end of its route. Recently, however, the Concord & Montreal Railroad system has been extended by the addition of a line along its shore, or from Lake Village to Alton Bay, a distance of seventeen miles.

If nothing else had been accomplished by building of this connecting line, the opening up of a new scenic section for the Winnipesaukee neighborhood would have amply compensated for the outlay from the standpoint of the summer visitor.

About seven miles from the Lake Village terminus of the Lake Shore railroad and within the territory of Guilford township, the extreme point on the south shore of Winnipsesaukee juts out on the Lake. This is known as “Carr’s Point,” a beautiful, sightly, finely situated promontory in miniature, commanding in outlooks and winsome in every grace and attraction of coast and landscape scenery. The neighborhood of Carr’s Point has been seized upon as the foundation of a public park, known as Lake Shore Park, a reservation of about twenty acres on the shore front of a two-hundred-acre tract, all included within the park establishment. Here is one of the most beautiful spots imaginable. The views, multiplies indefinitely by every change standpoint within the grounds, are simply magnificent, and include the finest of lake sections, with shore and island accessories, and the glorious successions of mountain scenery in the north. An observatory on Carr’s Point will also afford peculiar emphasis and character for these outlooks. Along the lake shore, in front of and contiguous to the park, a white sandy beach extends for a half mile or more, fully equal in all its features to the beach at Old Orchard or any of the well known seashore localities. Off this beach, and in various localities in view from its expanse, are fishing grounds for bass, pickerel, perch, trout, etc.; in short, for all varieties of the fish with which the great lake abounds. Indeed, it may be claimed for this neighborhood that it furnishes the best brook-trout fishing in the country.
Through these park grounds the Lake Shore railroad runs, dividing the park proper, on the water-front from the park community establishment, which occupies the remainder of the tract, on the south side if iron highway.
These grounds slope gradually from the shore to the upland in their rear, thus enhancing continually the situation with regard to the views of the lake and its northern boundaries. The park is to be fitted with a pavilion one hundred by forty feet measurement and with an “annex” thirty by thirty feet. The provision is for every kind of excursion and picnic parties, and social organizations assemblages. Within the annex are boilers for cooking coffee, chowders, etc., and in larger room tables may be readily set for gathering of almost any size. The hall is fitted with a stage and siderooms, for concert performances and the like; and bowling-alleys, music and dancing, and all pastimes and employment’s usual in such establishments, will be amply provided for. The observatory on the point will be fitted for the accommodation of band while performing, and every attention has been given to the preparation of the park and its vicinity as a resort for ladies and children. Yachts (steam and sailing), fishing boats, rowing boats, etc., are to be in full supply. A veranda twelve feet wide extends along the north and east fronts of the great hall building.
The park grounds, south of the railroad, have been laid out in streets and avenues, perfect squares resulting from the intersections, upon which may be erected cottages, residences, and the like, corresponding with the usage of summer communities generally. In the midst of all will be a fine hotel building complete in design and finish for all purposes of a first-class caravansary for a popular resort. It is expected that this hotel will be ready for occupancy in the summer of 1891.

oche16

11-18-2010, 02:23 PM

Hi Steve A,

Thanks for the info. It's strengthened my geography of Guilford's shore. We'll be exploring this hood in late spring, to try to tie up a few loose ends.

I'm also interested in Scenic Drive, Gilford. Of all the spots on the Lake, I believe this road has the sweetest views of old LSP, Ellacoya and Long Beach.

I will attempt to start a thread ref the Greystone and the Scenic Drive area in general. If it just a fraction of interest that this thread receives, I'll be happy. Please have a look!

Best,
Steve F

rse2

01-10-2012, 10:14 AM

I have some aerial photos that I believe were take by Lewis E. Weeks (or Marion C. Weeks (his wife) while Lewis piloted), father of Peggy Weeks.
I don't know when they were taken or if they are specific to Lake Shore Park.

If anyone is interested I'll email a link.

They are too big to simply upload. I did upload one to the "aerial photo" section and that maxed out my allotment. (Fixed the problem see subsequent posts)

PM me.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/515/medium/Lake_Shore_Park_Pic_10001.jpg (http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=18273)

webmaster

01-10-2012, 11:13 AM

They are too big to simply upload. I did upload one to the "aerial photo" section and that maxed out my allotment.
You are not maxed out. You only posted one picture. There is plenty of room left.

You can also attach pictures to your post. There is no quota for attached pictures.

rse2

01-10-2012, 11:25 AM

You are not maxed out. You only posted one picture. There is plenty of room left.

You can also attach pictures to your post. There is no quota for attached pictures.

OK I'll give that a try.

rse2

01-10-2012, 01:14 PM

Hope this worked and I hope you find these interesting/useful.

I believe these were all taken by my father in-law Lewis E. Weeks who passed some years ago.

I was married to his daughter Margaret (Peggy Weeks) for 30 years until here untimely death this last August.

I found these photos when going through some boxes.

Lewis' wife Marion is still living at 97.

Just Sold

01-10-2012, 04:19 PM

rse2, Thank you for some great photos. It looks to me that these were taken in the early 50's or maybe late 40's based on the cars I can identify.
The top 3 are of Lake Shore park. I believe the bottom photo is of Barton's Motel in Laconia on Paugus Bay with the cemetery on the right. There is one of the Lakes Region Playhouse next to what is today Mountain View Yatch Club and where the Fireside Inn and Suites and the old Bea Mae's is today.

I am guessing but I think pictures 5 & 6 are of the Christmas Island Motel. Anyone agree?

Can anyone else identify the locations in these pictures.

SteveA

01-10-2012, 04:57 PM

Can anyone else identify the locations in these pictures.

I think you got it all Just Sold.

BroadHopper

01-10-2012, 04:59 PM

I believe Just Sold is spot on! The picture below Christmas island Motel looks like the old Shangra La aka Brickyard Mountain Inn.

The picture below has what appears to be K C on the barn. Not sure at all where that is although the house looks familiar from the Rte 3 bypass in Gilford near the airport.

My dad was one of the builders for Phil Roux's Christmas Island project.

mcdude

01-10-2012, 05:32 PM

JustSold: You are "wicked smaht!" Here's a shot for comparison purposes of the Shangri-La vs. photo #7
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/15014/medium/604Shangri-La1.jpg

and here's Christmas Island.....compare to #5 & 6
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanchristmasislandresort.jpg

SteveA

01-10-2012, 06:18 PM

rse2, Thank you for some great photos. It looks to me that these were taken in the early 50's or maybe late 40's based on the cars I can identify.

Very late 40's, more likely early 50's. In picture # 1, of LSP you can see the flagpole, it was put up in 1949. It looks like Long Beach has no cottages "right" on the beach, which would date it in the 50's.

Thanks again for posting RSE2, welcome to the Forum!

rse2

01-11-2012, 08:57 AM

I just uploaded full size versions of the Weeks aerials to the "Gallery" Historical photo section. Much more detail is available if you're interested.

rse2

01-18-2012, 06:31 PM

Dickie B from HB

01-25-2012, 03:36 AM

Hi rse2,
I'm sorry to hear about the passing of all of the Weeks family members. Peggy and I were friends at LSP when we were teenagers in the 50's. There is a good picture of her at post 142 on this thread. Please accept my condolances.
Her mother always struck me as a very elegant lady.
I remember her dad as quite a good horseshoe player. You would often see him playing horseshoes where the men had set up a pit behind the Shull's cabin near Big Pier. Lew always made lots of ringers.

DB

carguy

01-30-2012, 11:10 PM

I too was sorry to hear of the passing of all the Weeks Family members. I had a crush on Peggy when we were kids growing up in LSP. Peggy never made it to some of the reunions that we had ten years ago or thereabouts. I had not seen her since about 1960. The family was from Metuchen, NJ.

Bill C.
Norwich, CT 06360

carguy

01-30-2012, 11:26 PM

The fourth picture is of Chanticleer Inn & Cabins that was located next to the Old Belknap Point Railroad Station in Gilford on then Rte. 11. I worked there in the Summers of 1959 and 1960.

Lewis Weeks used to rent a private plane on occasion at the Laconia Airport and fly over LSP. Lew was a great horseshoe player and softball player. He loved life and his time spent at LSP.

mcdude

01-31-2012, 07:57 AM

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20scanchanticleer.jpg
Thanks for jogging my memory carguy....I knew that pic looked familiar but could not think of the name of the place for the life of me!
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/531/medium/20chanticleer.jpg
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http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5717&stc=1&d=1326218901

SteveA

01-31-2012, 09:14 AM

Jonas Pilot

01-31-2012, 09:17 AM

McDude, You have amazed me once again. You are a bottomless pit of Winnipesaukee imagery. Thanks again.

Just Sold

01-31-2012, 09:44 AM

Carguy...thanks for clearing that one up and like McDude it jogged my memory too. I do remember having dinner there as a child and the view from the restaurant was spectacular. I even remember my meal, trout.

BTW I figured out where the 10th photo is. It is Lilly Pond Road and Sanborn Road where they meet at Rt 11B, Weirs Rd and looking out at the end of Governors Island. The house with 2 dormers and the barn can still be seen on google maps today.

LakeSnake

01-31-2012, 12:23 PM

Gee - those in the second picture have a striking resemblance to the one at Horse & Bugy in Alton. Just wondering if there is a conection such as same builder or if some where moved to Alton at some point.

mcdude

01-31-2012, 12:53 PM

McDude, You have amazed me once again. You are a bottomless pit of Winnipesaukee imagery. Thanks again.
Well thanks Jonas Pilot....I think....although I have never been called a pit before!!!
:D:laugh:

ishoot308

01-31-2012, 04:21 PM

Wow McDude! Does that bring back memories! When I was a kid we stayed at the Chanticleer many a summer night! What a great place that was! It had a great game room in the main office building for us kids also!

I believe the owners last name at that time was Ryan... first name Bill maybe?? Anyone know whatever happened to him after he sold the place?

Thanks for bringing back great memories!!

Dan

mcdude

01-31-2012, 05:52 PM

Here's another one....
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/520/medium/chanticleerdining.jpg

ghfromaltonbay

01-31-2012, 09:06 PM

BTW I figured out where the 10th photo is. It is Lilly Pond Road and Sanborn Road where they meet at Rt 11B, Weirs Rd and looking out at the end of Governors Island. The house with 2 dormers and the barn can still be seen on google maps today.

I recognize the Cape Cod house with the full shed dormer on the extreme left. It still stands at the 11B & 11C intersection but it is now bright red with a green metal roof. You can't miss it on your left as you head towards the Weirs on 11B.

BroadHopper

02-01-2012, 03:00 PM

I recognize the Cape Cod house with the full shed dormer on the extreme left. It still stands at the 11B & 11C intersection but it is now bright red with a green metal roof. You can't miss it on your left as you head towards the Weirs on 11B.

You nailed it! The K on the barn in the middle of the picture is King and the C is G for Grant. If you look at the King's Grant main house and barn you can see a close resemblance.

BTW, I use to teach alpine skiing with Mike Hickey at the King's Grant rope tow back in the 60's

http://www.cardcow.com/130027/horseback-riding-at-kings-grant-inn-gilford/

SIKSUKR

02-02-2012, 02:01 PM

BTW, I use to teach alpine skiing with Mike Hickey at the King's Grant rope tow back in the 60's

That surely must be a different Mike Hickey than I grew up with.He broke both his legs skiing at the mighty Mcintyre ski area in Manchester.:laugh:

BroadHopper

02-02-2012, 02:13 PM

Yes. Different Mike Hickey. If you google Mike Hickey you will see he became president of the PSIA. He was also the head of the PSIA demonstration team. When I was certified PSIA at Wachusetts, Mike flew out from Mammoth Mountain CA to personally hand me the certificate.

chattypatty

02-06-2012, 01:43 PM

Ishoot308:
Jim Ryan was at the very least the manager of Chanticleer Shores. He might have been the owner, I am not really sure. My ex-husbands grandparents & parents were long time LSP residents who moved over to Chanticleer Shores when it opened up to new cottages. They built one right on the water & I spent many happy times at the lake at their camp. My mother in law sold it about 5 years ago to someone who had admired it for years. I still miss being up there. :(

LittleMiss61

02-11-2012, 09:33 AM

Jim Ryan was my uncle. He, my Dad, Paul Greeley, and Vic Hatem, Joe Mahoney, John Ronan bought Chanticleer circa 1960. They sold lots and ran it for many years... Jim was the general manager and they all worked on weekends. I started cleaning cottages very young... Those were great days.

My nana, Margaret Greeley ran the Inn. She was awesome.

chattypatty

02-20-2012, 06:52 PM

All of those names are so familiar to me. I spent 15 summers going up on weekends & vacations with my husband & my daughter. She wanted so badly to purchase the camp from her grandmother, but it didn't work out that way. My daughter would say that her happiest summer days were spent up there. She played with the Hatem boys & all of the other kids up there. I am going to send her the link to these posts & pictures, I know she will be happy going down memory lane. :)

Mr. V

08-12-2013, 11:20 PM

Jim Ryan was my uncle. He, my Dad, Paul Greeley, and Vic Hatem, Joe Mahoney, John Ronan bought Chanticleer circa 1960.

I can't recall what led to the exodus of several families from Lake Shore Park to Chanticleer.

Were they angry at Spanos / Rugg and some of their policies for LSP?

Dickie B from HB

09-02-2013, 06:35 PM

Hi John,
Absolutely. Spanos and the Ruggs became very intrusive. I don't know if all of the families felt that way, but I know that quite a few of them were upset by the management policies.
regards,
Dick

RAY WHALER

11-05-2013, 09:41 PM

I'm sad to report that Marion C. Weeks, wife of Lewis E. Weeks (also deceased), mother of Margaret (Peggy Weeks) Estey (deceased August 2011) and Stacy Weeks (also deceased), passed away last week at 97 years old.

The all loved LSP and talked about their wonderful summers there often.

I too would like to give my condolences to you, I have had many memorable moments with Peggy and Stacey that I shall never forget ,Mr.and Mrs.Weeks were an extremely respected mother and father and loved by all. They were very much missed when they sold and left LSP.It is hard to believe that they are not now with us.
RAY WHALER,

dml01532

11-27-2013, 07:36 PM

New here..not sure if this message is going where i want it to, or going anywhere. I got curious when mr v mentioned the "ufo" message. Someone called mr v, john. I believe I know him from the summer of '68 and that he was from NJ..(Borman?). My parents were members of the LSPA until the summer of '69. The "room" brought back great memories. I see a few families are still members. I remember mentioned names like the Mercandantes and the Degroots...friends of my parents and older brothers. We had Mercandantes old site next to Degroots. Just want to know what the park is like today. I haven't been there since the summer of '70.

RLW

11-28-2013, 03:15 PM

http://i52.tinypic.com/vsn94z.jpg dml01532, I just noticed that you are fairly new to posting on the forum and glad you have joined us. Have fun and enjoy the Winni Forum while making many new friends.

Happy Thanksgiving and it sounds as if you may of heard of some of the residence up here. You keep looking and asking question and I'm sure you will get answers.:)

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e56yqf.gif

MeredithMan

12-01-2013, 05:15 PM

I have found this entire thread to be very interesting and fascinating. The Lake has been an important part of my family's life, and it all began on Labor Day Weekend, 1973. We went away for the weekend and ended up at The MaryKay Cottage on the shores of LSP. I was just a 12 year old boy at the time, but it is probably one of the best childhood memories I have...playing ball in the water with my parents, a folk mass on Saturday evening in The Pavillion, and some older gent at the cottage next to The MaryKay who talked my father's ear off and began every sentence with, "Well anywho...."

The MaryKay was for sale at the time, I believe for $5,000.00. My parents were very tempted, but as I remember, you could only buy the cottage and not the land....not sure if that is accurate or not, but that is what I remember my parents saying. As a result, they didn't buy it, but eventually did find a place that brought them great joy the rest of their lives.

Now, as an adult with my own kids, the lake is our home-away-from-home and we owe it all to that weekend at LSP and the MaryKay cottage.

MM

SteveA

12-04-2013, 05:54 AM

The MaryKay was for sale at the time, I believe for $5,000.00. My parents were very tempted, but as I remember, you could only buy the cottage and not the land....not sure if that is accurate or not, but that is what I remember my parents saying. As a result, they didn't buy it, but eventually did find a place that brought them great joy the rest of their lives.

MM

Yes.. LSP is still the same. Members own their cottage/mobilhome, but they don't own any "land" Instead they hold a VMC (Voting Member Certificate) that makes them 1/310th owner/member of the LSP Association.

This setup was the result of a long court battle that went all the way to the NH Supreme Court. The Town of Gilford wanted the land and buildings to conform with the town zoning laws. End result was a settlement that set the outside measurement of all cottages and mobilhomes, and restricted the addition of any "new" sites. At the time of the settlement there was 310 "Members" and that number can never me increased.
Bottom line was the court decided that LSP Assc. Had enough land to cover the 310 member sites, (LSP owns a whole lot of land on the other side of rt 11)

The coolest part of the ruling from the court was ' (paraphrased) "LSP is like a chicken farm, the town can control the number of chicken coops, but not where they are located" result was that we can't add any more coops.

I was 23 years old, and bought in for $800! Best investment I ever made!

Mr. V

12-13-2013, 10:09 PM

I got curious when mr v mentioned the "ufo" message. Someone called mr v, john. I believe I know him from the summer of '68 and that he was from NJ..(Borman?).

Yes D.L. (originally from Worcester, IIRC), it's me, John.

I moved to the west coast many years ago, but manage to get back to the lake occasionally to see family and just relax.

My family left the park many years ago; we still have a place near Ames Farm.

I wonder what ever happened to Paul?

Those UFOs were cool (thanks Dickie B from HB for showing me how!); we're lucky we didn't cause a forest fire with the danged things.

Dickie B from HB

09-01-2014, 04:28 AM

Well another Labor Day has come, and even though I haven't spent a summer at Lake Shore Park in over 50 years, Labor Day always brings back the memory leaving LSP and heading back down the road to New Jersey.
We had a cabin on Long Beach, four spots away from MiniHaHa (now Ellacoya).
We would leave New Jersey around the end of June and head to the lake, spend all summer there, and return home on Labor Day.
Nothing was more depressing than going back to New Jersey on Labor Day!!!
What made it even worse was that school would start the following day.
My parents would pack up the old Oldsmobile (no luggage, just laid all the clothes out in the trunk), while I would be out saying goodbye to all my friends, sometimes leaving a summer girlfriend behind.
We would close up the cabin, put the shutters on the windows, and lock the door. Then it was one last ride out through the ball field and over the bridge at the swamp and up to the pavilion to fill up on gas. Then out the bumpy dirt road past big rock (giving my father a final opportunity to curse at all the potholes) to the end and past the old Lake Shore Park sign and onto route 11.
Nothing was more painful then the ride from New Hampshire to New Jersey. Going from the pristine air of New England to the choking haze that hung over New York and northern Jersey is a memory that I would like to forget.
But, Labor Day always brings it back.

RailroadJoe

09-01-2014, 11:57 AM

The first photo on this post was of the railroad station by McDude. I am curious to know if the gentleman who had the sign on top "LAKE SHORE PARK" ever gave it to the association? Last time I went by his pl;ace it seems he has moved on, not sure. Name of Roger

mcdude

08-11-2015, 11:07 AM

“Lake Shore Park-an Historical Cruise”, Featuring Gerrie McKenna
(Weirs, NH – Wednesday, August 19th, 7 p.m.)
Lake Winnipesaukee Museum is hosting a presentation, “Lakeshore Park-an Historical Cruise, Featuring Gerrie McKenna

The year was 1890 and the date was June 17, the Concord & Montreal Railroad finished a rail line from Lakeport to Alton Bay. This railroad ran through Lake Shore Park which was owned by the Boston & Maine railroad and was one of the stops along the way.

Through these park grounds the Lake Shore railroad runs, dividing the park proper, on the water-front from the park community establishment, which occupies the remainder of the tract, on the south side if iron highway.

Gerrie has been a resident of Lake Shore Park for over 80 years. She will present the history of Lake Shore Park with historical photographs and documents. She will bring the history from when Lake Shore Park began up to the current day.

This event is free for Lake Winnipesaukee Historical Society members, for non members there is a $5 fee with all proceeds going to benefit the Historical Society’s ongoing renovations. We are located on Route 3 in Weirs Beach, next to Funspot. Please RSVP to 366-5950.

Mr. V

06-22-2017, 09:09 AM

I recall walking to the Pavillion every morning, container in hand, to hand pump drinking water from the well: it was the only potable water source.

I also recall how the well was very close to a pazoozy (sic), i.e. a communal bathroom.

The toilets drained into a septic system, not sewers.

My questions: was there regular testing of the well water to detect contaminants such as bacteria?

Any known incidents of people getting ill from contaminated well water?

SIKSUKR

06-22-2017, 10:14 AM

Just ab fyi. I thought most setbacks from septic to wells were only mandated to be more than 100 ft. Doesn't sound like much but I dont think the bacteria get far from your system

gravy boat

07-12-2017, 07:00 PM

Love these old pics from my great grandparents. Before the cabins....

Doobs41378

07-13-2017, 11:53 AM

Dickie B from HB

07-14-2017, 11:04 AM

Dickie B from HB

07-14-2017, 11:08 AM

My grandparents camp is in the area shown in the second to last picture (4 up from the foot bridge). Obviously looks much different now. Was the marina there at this time or was that put in afterwards?

The marina was built by Spanos and Rugg in 1960 shortly after they bought the park from the Jones family. Those pictures were taken in the 30's.

That first picture is of my mother washing clothes on the dock in front of our cabin (them days are long gone LOL. We used to wash in the lake too with a bar of soap). Back then it wasn't much of a cabin. It was a board floor with wood sides that went up about four feet. The rest of it was a tent top that was put up each summer. Jones allowed the campers to store all their equipment for the winter in the barn on the other side of route 11 outside the park.

upthesaukee

07-14-2017, 11:19 AM

My mom's aunt and uncle were Jim and Millie Foster. They were Scottish immigrants that lived in Andover MA. On a trip up to the lake by train, they saw the lake and the mountains, and Uncle Jim said that this area was the closest he would get to Scotland without traveling back there. Initially he had a platform with a wall tent and eventually built a cabin which he called the "Wee Hoose", Scottish dialect for little house. It was 71 years ago that I first came the lake as an infant. Since 1946, I have only missed a couple of years at the lake while I was I the military. Lots of memories of dances for the little kids, then being put to bed, and a group of parents would make the rounds of the camps to make sure the kids were ok. (Try doing that today!)(Of course, once you were put to bed, you stayed there. ) Don't know if the Wee Hoose is still there.

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Dickie B from HB

07-14-2017, 11:36 AM

Doobs41378

07-14-2017, 07:38 PM

The marina was built by Spanos and Rugg in 1960 shortly after they bought the park from the Jones family. Those pictures were taken in the 30's.

That first picture is of my mother washing clothes on the dock in front of our cabin (them days are long gone LOL. We used to wash in the lake too with a bar of soap). Back then it wasn't much of a cabin. It was a board floor with wood sides that went up about four feet. The rest of it was a tent top that was put up each summer. Jones allowed the campers to store all their equipment for the winter in the barn on the other side of route 11 outside the park.

Did/Do you know Ray and Anne Todd? Those are my grandparents.

Dickie B from HB

07-15-2017, 12:48 PM

Did/Do you know Ray and Anne Todd? Those are my grandparents.

You know I don't remember them, but I am sure that I must have said hello to them as I passed their camp. It's been a long time since I left the park, which was in 1963. There were so many people that I knew back then, but have faded from memory.

Mr. V

07-17-2017, 01:53 AM

When did the Mount stop docking at Big Pier?

Must have been long ago.

chachee52

07-18-2017, 07:34 AM

Did/Do you know Ray and Anne Todd? Those are my grandparents.

Ma and Pa! Ma still sits on the porch and keeps track of me and what I'm up to. Miss Pa's daily swim in the lake to "test the water".

Doobs41378

07-19-2017, 09:55 AM

Ma and Pa! Ma still sits on the porch and keeps track of me and what I'm up to. Miss Pa's daily swim in the lake to "test the water".

Is that you Todd?

chachee52

07-19-2017, 06:26 PM

Is that you Todd?

The one and only :D
I've taken over my grandfather's spot on his porch listening to the Red Sox games and watching people walk by now.

Doobs41378

07-19-2017, 06:27 PM

Very nice. I think we are going there sometime in August. I will look for you.

KennyB

11-11-2017, 07:12 AM

Good Morning. Found this forum yesterday searching for - wait for lt - history of Lake Shore Park. What a treasure. Both LSP and the forum.

My grandfather Clarence Lyons and grandmother Angie purchased a small trailer, airstream type, with porch when I was a baby, probably 1958ish. He had a huge wooden boat that was parked on rail road during the winters and fought to get into and out of the marina next to the gas station which was pictured. It was an arch. My parents rebuilt in 1980 when the sewer collector was installed and enjoy LSP to this very year.

Dad was on the board of directors for a term, to include chairman. Dave Berry continues to be a LSP figure with his walking stick and big hats. Loved to sail until he couldn’t any longer.

As a child, mom would bring us up to the lake for the summer and homestead until Labor Day. Sylvia, or Sally, brings children, grandchildren, and now greatgrand children to the lake at every opportunity. It’s a safe and nurchering place to be.

Can anyone tell me when LSP Association purchased the park?

SIKSUKR

11-14-2017, 03:31 PM

Forum member SteveA here seemed to be the expert on LSP. Have not see much activity from him lately.

chachee52

12-20-2018, 10:04 PM

LSP was bought by the members in 1975.
And last winter was a sad time in the park when SteveA passed away.

Major

12-24-2018, 09:15 AM

LSP was bought by the members in 1975.
And last winter was a sad time in the park when SteveA passed away.

I just read that a classmate of mine at WPI, Susan Lindberg Shanahan, passed away recently. It said that she owned a home at LSP. Hadn't seen her since 1987, but she was a very nice person. Very sad.

strum

01-10-2019, 12:53 PM

"Major" yes she did own a home in LSP with her family. Her grandparents vincent and Isabell Mercadante also lived in LSP for many many years..

chachee52

02-17-2020, 09:30 PM

It is amazing that the Pier is still about the same (some alteration have been made through the years to hold off ice damage) but that beach part is significantly smaller now, there are a couple cottages in that area.

RAY WHALER

03-05-2020, 05:10 PM

sawyerpoint

11-04-2020, 08:08 AM

Hi All,
We have just joined the Forum. I am writing a history of Sawyer Point in Tuftonboro for a book celebrating the area and the 50th anniversary of our Sawyer Point Road Association in 2021.
I'm interested in the Caverly, Piper, Edgerly and Sawyer families who owned property on Sawyer Point. Also any other information or anecdotes about the area would be welcome.
Thank you,
Sawyer Point

Descant

11-04-2020, 11:55 AM

Welcome to the Forum. I sent you a PM.

Soaringeagle

08-17-2022, 05:06 PM

cyberz51

03-26-2024, 02:58 PM

many memories from 60's and on in front of baby beach

dad's cousin Ralph William Williams painted many of the Breck Girls portraits that were used in Breck shampoo advertising. He used to work on these portraits while looking out at baby beach on Lake Winnipesaukee. They were on the back of better homes and gardens and many others

BroadHopper

03-27-2024, 06:46 AM

BJM; HAVE YOU FOUND PICTURES OF LAKESHORE PARK?
any pictures of terrance hill across from Samoset?

My family had a cottage on Terrace Hill. From the late 50s to 1998 when taxes skyrocketed. Before that the cottage had been in the family since the 1890s.

Before the Laconia bypass, it was quite the trip taking backroads through Laconia and Gilford to get to the 'camp'.

Sorry I don't have pictures of Terrace Hill. Up until the early 70s, it was a seasonal dirt road covered with used crankcase oil to mitigate dust. Almost all the camps were owned by middle class residents, firemen and policemen from Mass, RI and New York. There were two cabin colonies with seasonal rental, one was owned by Ellie Donnelly and the other was by Kitty her sister. Both of Irish origin.

The residents would have neighborhood block parties where the families would get together to socialize and the kids would get to know each other. Gone are the days I cherished on the lake.