Vaccinations

[songkrai]

Vaccinations.

Covid-19. When and where

Summer neighbor down the road. He and wife got first Vaccination on January 6, 2021. Winter home is in Florida. That is where they got the Vaccination.
That county/state is providing Vaccination to those 65 years old and up - the general public.

He states that he made an appointment on computer (internet) and just showed up. That county is doing those age 65 and up first. And has already started.
It was the 2 part Vaccination.

[MDoug]

We have appointments for Covid vaccinations January 11 at health department in Appling County, GA, near our winter home.

[fatlazyless]

New Hampshire vaccine allocation plan:

www.dhhs.nh.gov/dphs/cdcs/covid19/documents/covid19-vaccine-allocation-plan-summary-pdf ... January 5, 2021

As a 69-year old NH resident in Waterville Valley and Meredith, probably my best plan between now and sometime in the March-April-May vaccination estimated date is to totally self-isolate as much as possible and wear a good quality mask down at Walmart, Market Basket, and the gasoline station. If wearing one mask is good, then wearing two masks, one on top of the other, is better ... :eek:

Probably, no one thinks they will get hit with this disease until they actually get hit with this disease, and then they refuse to believe it.

If this pdf link worked and I cannot figure out why it does not work, some of what it shows ....... for the New Hampshire plan:

Phase 2 ....... March-April-May, 2021

Phase 2a ..... estimated 175,000-people
...................people 65 to 74 years old
...................K to Grade-12: school and childcare staff

Phase 2b ..... estimated 200,000-people
.................. people 50 to 64 years old

Golden View nursing home in Meredith has suffered six Covid-19 deaths including both health staff and residents - a total of 56-residents and 52-staff have tested positive - news report, Dec 31, Laconia Daily Sun

So, basically no matter how financially broke, depressed, lonely or physically ailing (C-19 excluded) you may be, waking up in the morning with two good strong healthy lungs is another very good day! .... :) .... to go for a long walk and soak up all that winter sunshine! Just remember to at least carry a mask in your pocket.

[Susie Cougar]

Vaccinations.

Covid-19. When and where

Summer neighbor down the road. He and wife got first Vaccination on January 6, 2021. Winter home is in Florida. That is where they got the Vaccination.
That county/state is providing Vaccination to those 65 years old and up - the general public.

He states that he made an appointment on computer (internet) and just showed up. That county is doing those age 65 and up first. And has already started.
It was the 2 part Vaccination.

I got my shot yesterday too. It was extremely difficult to get an appointment and if it were not for my son, I would not have gotten my shot.
So many people were mad and frustrated and afraid and some tried to even go without an appointment to the park and were turned away. The county had a special meeting yesterday and decided that this is just not working. There are too many people who are computer illiterate and don’t know what to do. So they just announced that there is going to be a lottery system. You can either go online to sign up or you can call a number and so anyone who cannot access a computer can get an appointment as well. And then they will just randomly pick the numbers each week and tell you when it’s your turn.

Unfortunately, every state is doing everything differently. Even in Florida, you may have seen some of the pictures of senior citizens camping out all night long to get a shot!

[fatlazyless]

I got my shot yesterday too. It was extremely difficult to get an appointment and if it were not for my son, I would not have gotten my shot.
So many people were mad and frustrated and afraid and some tried to even go without an appointment to the park and were turned away. The county had a special meeting yesterday and decided that this is just not working. There are too many people who are computer illiterate and don’t know what to do. So they just announced that there is going to be a lottery system. You can either go online to sign up or you can call a number and so anyone who cannot access a computer can get an appointment as well. And then they will just randomly pick the numbers each week and tell you when it’s your turn.

Unfortunately, every state is doing everything differently. Even in Florida, you may have seen some of the pictures of senior citizens camping out all night long to get a shot!


From last night's NY Times report, January 8, 2021 ...... by reporters Sheryl Stolberg and Katherine Wu ...... 'focus on getting shots into arms'

"The biggest problem so far has not been a lack of vaccine, but the difficulties that state and local governments face in distributing the doses they have. Capacity and logistics, not shortages, are keeping the vaccines from being administered."

"Our plan is going to focus on getting shots into arms, including by launching a fundamentally new approach, establishing thousands of federally run or federally supported community vaccination centers of various size located in places like high school gymnasiums and N.F.L. stadiums and mobile go-to units for remote locations."

........ sounds like a good, new plan ..... THIS vaccine will be looking for you, you, you ..... you, you, and me. Don't know about you, but I am definitely looking forward to "a little jab will do you" into my arm. Seems somewhat similar to the 1956 polio vaccinations administered all across the country to everyone. In the meantime I wear two masks, one on top of the other, when inside the food store, and await my N-95, $8.95 thick 3M-medical mask, from ebay.

[ApS]

My Florida County is in the process of vaccinating health workers. No dates have been set for Seniors yet.

'Course, the handling is precarious. Both types mandate very cold storage--or it's spoiled...

Maybe it's time to train the Boy Scouts in the giving of vaccinations! :eek:

[ApS]

From last night's NY Times report, January 8, 2021 ...... by reporters Sheryl Stolberg and Katherine Wu ...... 'focus on getting shots into arms'

"The biggest problem so far has not been a lack of vaccine, but the difficulties that state and local governments face in distributing the doses they have. Capacity and logistics, not shortages, are keeping the vaccines from being administered."

"Our plan is going to focus on getting shots into arms, including by launching a fundamentally new approach,
establishing thousands of federally run or federally supported community vaccination centers of various size located in places like high school gymnasiums and N.F.L. stadiums and mobile go-to units for remote locations."

From the same article:

“Any palooka that says we can’t vaccinate the whole shootin’ match by the Fourth of July is fulla malarkey!”

:look:

[TheTimeTraveler]

Giving the Vaccine injections into arms aren't really the issue. Dealing with supply and the paperwork (computer input) for each shot is an issue right now.

Let's hope things go smoother going forward......

[tis]

The government needs to turn it over to the private sector, only they will be able to do it.

[Newbiesaukee]

The government needs to turn it over to the private sector, only they will be able to do it.

The private sector is involved, this is a governmental/private sector joint venture and a major logistical task. As successful as Warp Speed was, this is harder.

Politics aside, Biden’s plan to release all the doses available without the certainty of second shot reserves is one of those “Go Big” ideas. It seems to be a medium risk/high reward plan. An observation, not a criticism. Way above my pay grade, but one of the early problems has been personnel and venues to put those “shots in arms” and putting all the doses out there would seem to exacerbate that bottleneck.

[tis]

The private sector is involved, this is a governmental/private sector joint venture and a major logistical task. As successful as Warp Speed was, this is harder.

Politics aside, Biden’s plan to release all the doses available without the certainty of second shot reserves is one of those “Go Big” ideas. It seems to be a medium risk/high reward plan. An observation, not a criticism. Way above my pay grade, but one of the early problems has been personnel and venues to put those “shots in arms” and putting all the doses out there would seem to exacerbate that bottleneck.

What I meant is the drug stores, etc. need to start giving out the shots. We all know government trips over their own feet.

[Newbiesaukee]

I think we are agreeing...but why aren’t the pharmacies in the Lakes Region prepared?

[TheTimeTraveler]

I think we are agreeing...but why aren’t the pharmacies in the Lakes Region prepared?

Of course one of the issues is that the vaccine availability just isn't there yet since there is such widespread distribution all over the USA.

Another issue is that many Pharmacies don't have the proper storage facilities for one of the vaccines which must be stored at a negative 94 degrees.

[Merrymeeting]

I think we are agreeing...but why aren’t the pharmacies in the Lakes Region prepared?

I have a friend who is a pharmacist in the region. The biggest issue is they want the pharmacies to take this over with no additional staff or resources.

I don't know about other places, but every time I go to the pharmacy in Wolfeboro, there is a line 3-4 deep to pick up prescriptions. How deep will it be if the existing staff is doing shots?

[Newbiesaukee]

I have a friend who is a pharmacist in the region. The biggest issue is they want the pharmacies to take this over with no additional staff or resources.

I don't know about other places, but every time I go to the pharmacy in Wolfeboro, there is a line 3-4 deep to pick up prescriptions. How deep will it be if the existing staff is doing shots?

I agree this is a legitimate comment. We have gotten our flu shots at Hannifords for years. When you first approach the pharmacy counter, the flu shot people are triaged to a separate line from the medication waiters.

But no question that personnel are a serious issue. There are no simple answers.

[gillygirl]

CVS is advertising to increase their workforce to address the staffing needed for the vaccination program.


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[TheTimeTraveler]

The Flu Vaccination programs have been around for years and there doesn't ever seem to be any issues with an effective distribution.

I wonder if anyone has numbers to show how many Vaccinations are given to folks over a three month period each year?

I would guess that 35% of the USA population gets a Flu Vaccine each year.

[FlyingScot]

I have a friend who is a pharmacist in the region. The biggest issue is they want the pharmacies to take this over with no additional staff or resources.

I don't know about other places, but every time I go to the pharmacy in Wolfeboro, there is a line 3-4 deep to pick up prescriptions. How deep will it be if the existing staff is doing shots?

Yes--private sector is much more efficient, but only the federal government is big enough to coordinate on the massive scale necessary. Appalling that they have not done this already

[fatlazyless]

Who gets vaccinated and when, here in New Hampshire?

www.concordmonitor.com/Special-Sections/Covid-19


I hope to get vaccinated in the Plymouth Walmart, in their songbird bird seed and bird feeder area, because waiting till March-April-May is strictly for the birds! .... :rolleye2::banana:

[smith point boater]

The vaccine task should have been given to Walmart, CVS and Walgreens - period. These people are logistic and distribution experts. Pending product availability we'd all be vaccinated by the Spring. I'm sure these retailers could have "hired" nurses etc looking for OT to help with shots. I've given the state of NH an 'A' on most handling of the pandemic (vs other states) but on vaccine distribution and administration C+/B-

[ApS]

Of course one of the issues is that the vaccine availability just isn't there yet since there is such widespread distribution all over the USA. Another issue is that many Pharmacies don't have the proper storage facilities for one of the vaccines which must be stored at a negative 94 degrees.
Just toss the vaccines in a Yeti cooler, and drive it up.

(Guantanamo is 99% vaccinated). :eek2:

[Merrymeeting]

"I recently attempted to come up with a plan to vaccinate the 1,200 or so highest-risk patients I care for and realized that to do this on my own, even working 12-hour days doing nothing but vaccinating, would take weeks, while neglecting the routine and urgent care of all my patients. This is not a reasonable option."
Dr. Martin P. Solomon, medical director of Brigham and Women’s Primary Care

From a column in today's Boston Globe.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/11/opinion/america-needs-an-immediate-vaccination-plan/

[Newbiesaukee]

"I recently attempted to come up with a plan to vaccinate the 1,200 or so highest-risk patients I care for and realized that to do this on my own, even working 12-hour days doing nothing but vaccinating, would take weeks, while neglecting the routine and urgent care of all my patients. This is not a reasonable option."
Dr. Martin P. Solomon, medical director of Brigham and Women’s Primary Care

From a column in today's Boston Globe.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/11/opinion/america-needs-an-immediate-vaccination-plan/

This is an excellent article and gives insight into a major part of the problem.

I am a retired physician and from my contacts I have heard of a disappointing percentage of frontline health care workers who are refusing vaccination at this time. To be clear, I would get mine today were that possible.

[WinnisquamZ]

“Disappointing percentage” those who have managed the virus on a daily basis are rejecting the vaccine. Is this bad? Not really, if you dig deeper and ask why we hear answers like “those most vulnerable must be done first”. I have been around it for a year, give it to those who need it” etc....


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[Newbiesaukee]

“Disappointing percentage” those who have managed the virus on a daily basis are rejecting the vaccine. Is this bad? Not really, if you dig deeper and ask why we hear answers like “those most vulnerable must be done first”. I have been around it for a year, give it to those who need it” etc....


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I understand what you are saying, but I look at it a little differently. First, this was FL where the governor has prioritized those over 65 as being first. Secondly, my belief about why health care providers are refusing is: health care providers include many non physicians who are younger. Their reasoning may be: I am young, my risk of dying/becoming very ill with Covid, is quite low. OTOH, the vaccines available are m-rna vaccines which technique has never been done before and may have unknown side effects. So, if I wait a few months, I’ll see if there are more side effects and I’ll get it then.

Although I do not agree with this, I see where reasonable people might make this decision.

That may, of course, not be correct. But, it is not good for anybody if the vaccine is available and not being used, regardless of cause.

[WinnisquamZ]

I understand what you are saying, but I look at it a little differently. First, this was FL where the governor has prioritized those over 65 as being first. Secondly, my belief about why health care providers are refusing is: health care providers include many non physicians who are younger. Their reasoning may be: I am young, my risk of dying/becoming very ill with Covid, is quite low. OTOH, the vaccines available are m-rna vaccines which technique has never been done before and may have unknown side effects. So, if I wait a few months, I’ll see if there are more side effects and I’ll get it then.

Although I do not agree with this, I see where reasonable people might make this decision.

That may, of course, not be correct. But, it is not good for anybody if the vaccine is available and not being used, regardless of cause.

I know here in NH the rejection rate from first responders is not as high as other states. And what has been happening here is when it is refused they just ask someone else. Nothing is wasted.


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[fatlazyless]

Here's a related report from today on CNN-January 11, 2021 by Maggie Fox:

'States increasingly dumping CDC recommendations in giving out coronavirus vaccines, analysis finds'

You will have to google that.

And, you know what, dead or alive, you is better off alive ..... and you can quote me on this ....... did I say that ..... :)

[WinnisquamZ]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/01/11/coronavirus-vaccine-hospitals-throwing-out-extra-doses-is-a-sin/


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[FlyingScot]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/01/11/coronavirus-vaccine-hospitals-throwing-out-extra-doses-is-a-sin/


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Yes--one of many messed up things that needs to be fixed. Incredible how poorly some of this stuff has (not) been thought out

[TheTimeTraveler]

The latest I've heard on the Covid Vaccines is that the entire stock of it is to be released and will go to anyone in any State who is age 65 or over.

This is supposed to begin immediately.

My guess is that this is great news for a lot of folks....

[fatlazyless]

'Federal urging to speed up vaccinations could scramble New Hampshire's plans'

www.concordmonitor.com/second-dose-covid-38282676 .... Tuesday, January 12, 6:44-pm, by Teddy Rosenbluth

"To jerk states around in the waning days of an outgoing administration doesn't feel like good policy to me, Williams said."

"This is a fitting chaotic finale to the chaotic pandemic response."

Oh well ...... chaotic or not chaotic ...... all that matters is getting a shot into my arm, and getting it done in the Plymouth Walmart bird food and bird feeder area will be just fine. It is actually very close to their Walmart Pharmacy in a spot that's between seasons right now ....... and this is definitely the pandemic season-2021! ...... I'll even buy a 13-dollar big bag of bird seed while I'm there! .... :D

[TheProfessor]

01/14/2021

State of New Hampshire government vaccination web site:

LINK (https://www.vaccines.nh.gov/)

[WinnisquamZ]

https://www.nhpr.org/post/nh-ski-patrollers-included-first-tier-vaccine-distribution
Ski Patroll before many at risk. Unacceptable by any standards


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[Lakegeezer]

https://www.nhpr.org/post/nh-ski-patrollers-included-first-tier-vaccine-distribution
Ski Patroll before many at risk. Unacceptable by any standards


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[WinnisquamZ]

You having to ask is the problem most are having with distribution of the vaccine.


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[Descant]

https://www.nhpr.org/post/nh-ski-patrollers-included-first-tier-vaccine-distribution
Ski Patroll before many at risk. Unacceptable by any standards

Ski Patrol are usually highly qualified EMT and are certainly first responders where the "client" may be from an unknown area, and unknown medical history, same as a car accident. I want to get vaccinated asap. As an elder with extras, I would be happy to step aside for a ski patroller.

[ApS]

The latest I've heard on the Covid Vaccines is that the entire stock of it is to be released and will go to anyone in any State who is age 65 or over. This is supposed to begin immediately. My guess is that this is great news for a lot of folks....
Now we've got "Vaccination Tourism"...


"Ana Rosenfeld, a 66-year-old lawyer in Buenos Aires, took advantage of a trip to visit her daughter and new grandson in Miami to get a vaccination. At a vaccination site in Tampa, she said she provided her passport as identification and proof of travel health insurance."

--WSJ

[fatlazyless]

Between vaccinating Ana from Argentina or having that dose of Covid-cure lose its' potency in that Miami heat ....... vaccinating Ana was a very correct and appropriate decision for the hard working medical people in Miami to do ....... it can be argued. ... :look:

[Susie Cougar]

Between vaccinating Ana from Argentina or having that dose of Covid-cure lose its' potency in that Miami heat ....... vaccinating Ana was a very correct and appropriate decision for the hard working medical people in Miami to do ....... it can be argued. ... :look:

Money talks.

The article states that she was able to find a vaccine in a town near Tampa. How did she find one? I live in a town near Tampa and people have been frantic to get a vaccine. Many have signed up in multiple counties, willing to drive anywhere at their chance for a vaccine. We have had seniors standing in long lines overnight. I know there are circumstances where the vaccine was being thrown out, but this was not the case certainly.

[fatlazyless]

Does Ana from Argentina play any tennis? ..... :D

Hey ANA ....... how's your TENNIS GAME???? ..... :)


Oh well ...... who knows ..... but what the heck ..... this vaccination system has had some start-up issues ..... but things will only get better and better-er ... just like Roger Federer.

You know, for $9.95, shipping included from Staten Island, I got myself what seems like a very respiratory fitting N95-3M mask on ebay. It seems like it is more protective than the very good quality Hanes cotton mask from Walmart.

So, just stay calm ...... and wear a good mask ...... or, wear two masks, one under the other for better protection.

[Susie Cougar]

I believe everyone 65 years old and older in New Hampshire will be able to sign up for the vaccine starting on January 22. Hopefully, within a month everyone should have been vaccinated.

[Lakegeezer]

I believe everyone 65 years old and older in New Hampshire will be able to sign up for the vaccine starting on January 22. Hopefully, within a month everyone should have been vaccinated.This is great news. I listened to some of the Gov's announcement yesterday and he mentioned there will be a web site to sign up for an appointment as of January 22. He also said appointments could be five weeks out. If you add the five to six weeks it takes to get the second dose and build up the immunity, we're talking mid April before the people in this phase are fully protected. Hopefully the signup process, supply and delivery into arms will flow smoothly.

[ApS]

Make mine a paper passport...:rolleye2: Maybe a tattoo? :eek2:

"A coalition of health and technology organizations are working to develop a digital COVID-19 vaccination passport to allow businesses, airlines and countries to check if people have received the vaccine.

The initiative, which includes members like Microsoft, Oracle and U.S. nonprofit Mayo Clinic, is using the work from member Commons Project’s international digital document..."

[thinkxingu]

For too many, the vaccine was too late. My mother-in-law passed away earlier this morning after testing positive just a few days ago on Wednesday.

For some, there are minimal effects. For many, it's a death sentence.

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[fatlazyless]

Holy smokes ...... that's totally terrible! ......so in a time period of five fast days, she went from relatively healthy lungs to lungs unable to inhale and exhale?

Am very sorry for your loss as it must be a very, very difficult time.

[thinkxingu]

Holy smokes ...... that's totally terrible! ......so in a time period of five fast days, she went from relatively healthy lungs to lungs unable to inhale and exhale?

Am very sorry for your loss as it must be a very, very difficult time.What many people are missing about this is the wide range of effects it can have. It appears that cardiac arrest as a result of oxygenation issues is not uncommon and, given the nature of spreading the virus, resuscitation is rarely pursued. Add a DNR and, well, coming back from cardiac arrest is very low.

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[DEJ]

For too many, the vaccine was too late. My mother-in-law passed away earlier this morning after testing positive just a few days ago on Wednesday.

For some, there are minimal effects. For many, it's a death sentence.

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Sorry for your loss Think.

[Susie Cougar]

For too many, the vaccine was too late. My mother-in-law passed away earlier this morning after testing positive just a few days ago on Wednesday.

For some, there are minimal effects. For many, it's a death sentence.

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I am so very sorry for you, think.

[Newbiesaukee]

My condolences to you and your family,

[gillygirl]

Sorry for your loss, think.


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[thinkxingu]

Thanks, friends—I've been very fortunate to not have been affected by the pandemic much beyond my classroom and a few friends who have experienced mostly minor symptoms. This being so close, and so quick, is jarring—with both my parents, I had time to say goodbye and have closure. This went from "I could use some Pedialyte" at 10 AM yesterday to cardiac arrest at 3 AM this morning.

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[FlyingScot]

For too many, the vaccine was too late. My mother-in-law passed away earlier this morning after testing positive just a few days ago on Wednesday.

For some, there are minimal effects. For many, it's a death sentence.

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So sorry for your loss, Think. Thanks for sharing this.

[TheTimeTraveler]

For too many, the vaccine was too late. My mother-in-law passed away earlier this morning after testing positive just a few days ago on Wednesday.

For some, there are minimal effects. For many, it's a death sentence.

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So sorry for your loss! Covid-19 is a very cruel disease and really shows the need for Vaccine relief all over the world.

[mswlogo]

What many people are missing about this is the wide range of effects it can have. It appears that cardiac arrest as a result of oxygenation issues is not uncommon and, given the nature of spreading the virus, resuscitation is rarely pursued. Add a DNR and, well, coming back from cardiac arrest is very low.

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Yeah, there are all sorts of problems people have. My Aunt has cardiac issues with COVID too. She had a heart attack and didn't know it, just difficult breathing at night.

Even people that have "Recovered" can also have new chronic issues.

Sorry to hear about your loss.

I heard on the radio that India is targeting 300 million vaccinated by July. It will take 2 YEARS to vaccinate their 1.5 billion population. And yes, that's a problem for us because it may mutate over such a long period and the vaccine could be no longer effective.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Think, that is very sad news about your mother in law...condolences to you and your family.

[Descant]

Condolences to you and your family, Thinkxingu. At the same time, we appreciate your sharing some detail so that we all better understand what we're up against.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Yes, thank you for demonstrating the seriousness of the disease. We are booked on a flight to Florida shortly, and my sensible side says to reschedule until we get the vaccine. Better to freeze our derrières up here than to take the chance in airports, planes, rental cars, over 75, with one lung cancer survivor. To me, it’s a no brainer, but I have to convince my other half that we should postpone.

[tis]

Think, how awful! I am very sorry!

[tummyman]

So, you could make the trip with no issues, or one or both of you could get sick in Florida away from your doctors, or one of you could really get sick in Florida, or one or both of you could end up with an even worse outcome. Agree...no brainer. Stay home, get the shot ASAP. Even after getting the shot, you need the second one and it will probably take 60 days to get full protection. Virus raging in many places, new strains popping up. What about this idea of going to Florida now makes sense? Good luck with grumpy !

[LoveLakeLife]

That’s horrible Think. Sincere condolences from all on here I’m sure.


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[Pricestavern]

So sorry to hear that, Think. Our thoughts are with you.

We just tested positive for the virus ourselves this week, even after trying to be very careful. We have headaches and fatigue but so far that's about it. We are very, very lucky. Our neighbors are having a more difficult time of it with muscle aches, chest congestion, lack of taste/smell. My uncle died of it in April.

This is no joke people. Please take care of yourselves and please care for those around you.

[TheTimeTraveler]

Yes, thank you for demonstrating the seriousness of the disease. We are booked on a flight to Florida shortly, and my sensible side says to reschedule until we get the vaccine. Better to freeze our derrières up here than to take the chance in airports, planes, rental cars, over 75, with one lung cancer survivor. To me, it’s a no brainer, but I have to convince my other half that we should postpone.

I don't think there is any question about rescheduling. Just think of all the various exposure points you'll subject yourselves to on your trip to Florida.....

Don't risk it. Get your Vaccine shots when you can, and plan to take a longer trip next time around. Think of the money you'll save this year!

[JEEPONLY]

Condolences to you and your family, Thinkxingu. At the same time, we appreciate your sharing some detail so that we all better understand what we're up against.

Well stated!

Think- condolences to you and your family.

[ApS]

You having to ask is the problem most are having with distribution of the vaccine.
New York is among the worst, but North Dakota has taken the vaccination lead among all the states:

"North Dakota has emerged as America's unlikely leader in the battle against COVID-19, leading the nation in the vaccine rollout and battling back from being the worst coronavirus hotspot in the nation with an 80 percent decline in active cases since mid-November.

"Only a little over 14 million Americans have been vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Monday morning, and only about 54 percent of vaccine doses distributed to states have been administered to people, according to data from Bloomberg.

"But while some states like California are floundering, using a meager 37 percent of doses distributed to it, North Dakota is flying through the doses sent to it by the federal government, using 78 percent of its allotted doses and vaccinating just shy of seven percent of its vaccine doses".
—The Daily Mail (excerpt)

[Pricestavern]

To rollout the vaccine to 1 million people per day, which would provide the majority of people with the shot by end of September (+/-), they will need to actually inoculate 2 MILLION people per day. If a second shot is needed, then to get a million new people vaccinated, you'll also need to be giving the other 1 million people getting their second shot at the same time as those getting their first.

This is going to be a huge effort. The planning and logistics will be something akin to a major WWII battle requiring huge amounts of state and federal resources.

Fingers crossed!

[fatlazyless]

At the speed of vaccination this country has been going, up to now, the cows ..... www.beef2live.com/story-cattle-inventory-vs-human-population-state-0-114255 ...... will get vaccinated before the humans ........ mmmooooo!


So, just remain calm and wear a good mask, or wear two masks, one under the other.

[WinnisquamZ]

Mass just dropped their stay at home order. Funny how the numbers have declined in just 24 hours. Hopefully, NH does the same this afternoon


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[gravy boat]

Mass just dropped their stay at home order. Funny how the numbers have declined in just 24 hours. Hopefully, NH does the same this afternoon


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Even Cuomo has miraculously had a change of heart... On Jan 11:

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said Monday that the state must start reopening its economy despite most New Yorkers not having received a coronavirus vaccination, saying that there will be “nothing left to open” otherwise.

“We simply cannot stay closed until the vaccine hits critical mass. The cost is too high,” Cuomo wrote in a tweet Monday morning.

“We will have nothing left to open. We must reopen the economy, but we must do it smartly and safely,” the Democratic governor added.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Mass just dropped their stay at home order. Funny how the numbers have declined in just 24 hours. Hopefully, NH does the same this afternoon


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Miraculous! And would you believe this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nasdaq.com/articles/fauci-says-coronavirus-infections-might-be-plateauing-2021-01-21%3famp


Who could have ever guessed that this would happen 1 day after inauguration day ...:rolleye2::rolleye2:

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Very frustrating....busy busy busy. We have both been going nuts, trying phone and computer. Absolutely nonsensical....you are not on hold, as advertised, but get a busy signal. We knew this would happen.

[Buffalo Gal]

It took about 10 minutes of re-loading the page but I was able to get into website. Fairly easy questions. The best part was that it allows you to add a spouse at the same time, which is VERY helpful. No appointment yet, they will notify me by email when we are scheduled. So I still have to wait....

[Sue Doe-Nym]

It took about 10 minutes of re-loading the page but I was able to get into website. Fairly easy questions. The best part was that it allows you to add a spouse at the same time, which is VERY helpful. No appointment yet, they will notify me by email when we are scheduled. So I still have to wait....

BG, what page, exactly? We have been trying and trying....doesn’t accept our info.

[GregW11]

BG, what page, exactly? We have been trying and trying....doesn’t accept our info.

I used vaccines.nh.gov successfully. The site struggled for awhile - I’m sure the traffic is immense. There’s a big button right on that page that leads you directly into the registration process.

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[Buffalo Gal]

The website is: https://vaccines.nh.gov

Or go to WMUR website and the link is also there. Good luck!

[Sue Doe-Nym]

The website is: https://vaccines.nh.gov

Or go to WMUR website and the link is also there. Good luck!

Thanks! It finally accepted our info. I need to work on “ patience “.

[upthesaukee]

Our only complaint was entering our DOB. When you click on the box, it brings up a Jan 2021 page. At least on my Samsung tablet and my wife's iPad, we then had to scroll back through up to almost 75 years of months to get to our respective month and year page(less for my bride and I'm sworn to secrecy on that) . Sure would be easier to have the box with "xx/xx/xxxx" to where you can type in the numbers.

Other than that, so far so good. We will wait a time with patience to see how the rest of the process works.

Dave

[tummyman]

We also got on but had trouble at 8am exactly. Suspect the site went "live" a little late. One thing that might really help the process is if they could also provide online the form that you need to fill out at the vaccine site. People could prefill it out at home and bring it. Might really help to speed things up.

After we got registered, message said they would get back to us in 3-5 days.

[bobkatfly]

Our only complaint was entering our DOB. When you click on the box, it brings up a Jan 2021 page. At least on my Samsung tablet and my wife's iPad, we then had to scroll back through up to almost 75 years of months to get to our respective month and year page(less for my bride and I'm sworn to secrecy on that) . Sure would be easier to have the box with "xx/xx/xxxx" to where you can type in the numbers.

Other than that, so far so good. We will wait a time with patience to see how the rest of the process works.

Dave

I was on at 8:00 with an Android tab running off a cell hotspot. Couldn't get past the reCaptcha although I got a green check mark on it. Kept getting the message "verification expired" I also had a hard time with DOB. Started scrolling back 21 years (yeah, right) when I stopped and realized you can just click in the date field and enter you DOB. Anyway, gave up on that and went to my laptop running off the same hotspot and had no problem. Go figure.

[bobkatfly]

Anyone know where the closest location is around the lake? I think I read somewhere that Tamworth, near the DMV off rt16 is the closest.

Edit. Found this. https://www.governor.nh.gov/news-and-media/13-vaccination-sites-open-first-responders-ambulatory-care-providers

Looks like Laconia, Plymouth and Tamworth unless other sites open.

[winniplayhouse]

Congrats to everyone who registered this morning! How wonderful! Keep those of us not yet eligible updated on how the process goes for you.

[Pine Island Guy]

I logged in this morning about 10am using my laptop. The website performance was fine, and the app easy to use (on a laptop). When I finished, the message was that I would receive an email in 3-5 days... 20 minutes later I had the email, went through that app (a lot of the same questions, and performance was fine).

At the end, entered my zipcode (Portsmouth), and showed me that the closest spot was the Dover bus terminal (I had assumed it would be Pease), and they had appointments starting at 11am every 10 minutes through the afternoon. I booked in at 12:40, drove up and greeted by a National Guard team, they checked my info, drove around to the other side of the building, another National Guard team greeted me, rolled down my car window, rolled up my sleeve, shot my arm, and directed my to the other side of the parking lot... they make you wait 15 minutes to ensure you're ok, and then off I drove!

It couldn't have been easier or any better handled!! -PIG

ice ice ice

[TheVoiceOfReason]

Anyone know where the closest location is around the lake? I think I read somewhere that Tamworth, near the DMV off rt16 is the closest.

Edit. Found this. https://www.governor.nh.gov/news-and-media/13-vaccination-sites-open-first-responders-ambulatory-care-providers

Looks like Laconia, Plymouth and Tamworth unless other sites open.

Fairly certain that the Laconia site will be hosted at Lakes Region Community College.

[winniplayhouse]

Pine Island Guy...

Did the email that you received to do the actual scheduling come from VAMS? My parents got that today and are trying to confirm that’s the legit registration email. Thanks!

[Newbiesaukee]

Pine Island Guy...

Did the email that you received to do the actual scheduling come from VAMS? My parents got that today and are trying to confirm that’s the legit registration email. Thanks!

I registered this am and just got my VAMS. It freaked me a little as it was from. CDC, not NH; but I filled it out and got my appointment.

OTOH, when I registered this am it said I could also register my wife, but no way to do this on VAMS so she will have to do it separately. Bummer.

[tummyman]

Newbie.....did you fill out a form for your wife this am ?? If so, call the hotline tomorrow....2-1-1 and maybe they can answer whether she can also go at the same time as you. Must be a way....I would call them first.

[Newbiesaukee]

Newbie.....did you fill out a form for your wife this am ?? If so, call the hotline tomorrow....2-1-1 and maybe they can answer whether she can also go at the same time as you. Must be a way....I would call them first.

Two hours AFTER I got my appointment, I got another email with instructions and “tips” to use to make an appointment, which I had just done. Included in these instructions was the comment that if a spouse had filled out the earlier qualifying pre registration form, then she could come with me for my appointment without filling anything else at this time.

Better late than never, so she can come with me for the vaccine. But there were a few confusing hours.

But I am impressed, so far, with the ease and speed of the process.

[DEJ]

​​​​Curious which vaccine is being administered, Pfizer or Moderna?

[Pine Island Guy]

Pine Island Guy...

Did the email that you received to do the actual scheduling come from VAMS? My parents got that today and are trying to confirm that’s the legit registration email. Thanks!

Yes, once you register at vaccines.nh.gov, the appointment is set up with VAMS

and the vaccine I received was Pfizer

Arm is a little sore this morning, but that's it!

Ice is starting to look promising -PIG

[ApS]

​​​​Curious which vaccine is being administered, Pfizer or Moderna?
Thousands of delicate Moderna vaccines have been thrown out in Maine and Massachusetts, due to handling errors.

[Lakegeezer]

Got my appt this morning too, at the Plymouth Armory. Its good to be a geezer. On the VAMs system, it had a priority category for "living with or caring for someone over 65". NH didn't have this option, so while I will be protected, my younger wife won't. That begs the question, can protected people still transmit it to others. The official word is "it could, we don't know". Time to search the internet to find out who is doing research on that question. Inquiring minds want to know.

[bobkatfly]

I registered this am and just got my VAMS. It freaked me a little as it was from. CDC, not NH; but I filled it out and got my appointment.

OTOH, when I registered this am it said I could also register my wife, but no way to do this on VAMS so she will have to do it separately. Bummer.

I registered yesterday with my wife at the same time like you did. Today I got my appointment registration from vams.cdc.gov. it was in my name only. Again, like you. I also received an e-mail from nh.gov with good directions for filling out the registration with vams. The directions clearly indicate that if you originally registered with another family member at the same time then no other appointment is needed. Just show up with the other member and you'll be all set. You must bring the scan code that they send you for identification. Here's what I received from nh.gov. See number 3.

Thank you for completing the first step and registering to receive your COVID-19 vaccine. In the coming days, you will receive another email containing a link to schedule your vaccination appointment using the federal Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) Vaccine Administration Management System (VAMS).

The next step using CDC’s scheduling system can be a bit confusing, so the following helpful tips are designed to help you prepare and simplify the process when it comes time for you to schedule your appointment:

1. Please do not use Internet Explorer – instead use Google Chrome, Firefox, Edge, or Safari only.

2. The VAMS email will contain a link to schedule your appointment. Upon clicking that link, you will be asked. “Have you already registered as a vaccine recipient with VAMS?”. Please be sure to answer “no”.

3. If you registered a qualifying household member along with yourself (ie. spouse) to receive the vaccine at the same time, additional information will not be asked for or required when you schedule your appointment. Just arrive with your qualifying family member.

Also,
• The “Date of Birth” field can only be entered in the MMM DD, YYYY format, for example: Jan 01, 1950.
• When selecting “Race”, you must move at least one of the options from the left box to the right box.
• You DO NOT need to enter any insurance information. This is an optional field and you can simply click the next button to move to the Organization section.
• When asked about “organization”, you can leave the Role/Position field empty.
• When scheduling your vaccination appointment, enter your zip code, select a radius option and click the “search” button to find the closest vaccination location.
• When it comes time to pick a location, only select a “State of NH” site. DO NOT select a clinic or closed POD unless you were specifically instructed to do so.
• Once your appointment is scheduled, you will see a confirmation page AND receive a confirmation email. Be sure to complete the pre-vaccination questionnaire before coming to the vaccination site, this will help to speed up your appointment and reduce delays.

Again, please expect to receive another email directly from the federal CDC VAMS system containing a link to schedule your appointment.

[bobkatfly]

After registering I found that Huggins hospital in Wolfeboro is also a vaccination site, however the first open slot was Feb 28. Laconia was Feb 11 so I chose that. Didn't see Tamworth as available. Not sure why.

[bobkatfly]

Two hours AFTER I got my appointment, I got another email with instructions and “tips” to use to make an appointment, which I had just done. Included in these instructions was the comment that if a spouse had filled out the earlier qualifying pre registration form, then she could come with me for my appointment without filling anything else at this time.

Better late than never, so she can come with me for the vaccine. But there were a few confusing hours.

But I am impressed, so far, with the ease and speed of the process.

Newbie, didn't see your post this morning so my last reply to you was a bit rushed as you obviously already had the info I sent.

[upthesaukee]

After registering I found that Huggins hospital in Wolfeboro is also a vaccination site, however the first open slot was Feb 28. Laconia was Feb 11 so I chose that. Didn't see Tamworth as available. Not sure why.

This morning at about 730 or so, we also scheduled for Huggins and the earliest date was Feb 19 th around noon. We both got our confirmations, and have our QR codes on our homepage on our phones. Woo hoo.

Dave

[bobkatfly]

This morning at about 730 or so, we also scheduled for Huggins and the earliest date was Feb 19 th around noon. We both got our confirmations, and have our QR codes on our homepage on our phones. Woo hoo.

Dave

Ah, so you're the one that bumped me out to the 28th.:cool:

[Steveo]

I logged in this morning about 10am using my laptop. The website performance was fine, and the app easy to use (on a laptop). When I finished, the message was that I would receive an email in 3-5 days... 20 minutes later I had the email, went through that app (a lot of the same questions, and performance was fine).

At the end, entered my zipcode (Portsmouth), and showed me that the closest spot was the Dover bus terminal (I had assumed it would be Pease), and they had appointments starting at 11am every 10 minutes through the afternoon. I booked in at 12:40, drove up and greeted by a National Guard team, they checked my info, drove around to the other side of the building, another National Guard team greeted me, rolled down my car window, rolled up my sleeve, shot my arm, and directed my to the other side of the parking lot... they make you wait 15 minutes to ensure you're ok, and then off I drove!

It couldn't have been easier or any better handled!! -PIG

ice ice ice

Did they tell you how to sign up for your second shot?

[Slickcraft]

We received the CDC email overnight and clicked on the link at about 6 am this morning. The companion email from "no-reply@onsolve.com" was very helpful in providing guidance on filling out the CDC forms. We did get appointments for Feb 3rd in Laconia which is great.

I was initially thinking that the two emails were a scam so I came here and saw Newbie's posts of last night and early morning today indicating that the CDC email was for real. I did appreciate that heads-up.

Alan

[tummyman]

For those who have already gotten a shot, please pass on he following:

Where did you get the "shot" ?

What vaccine did you get ?

What info did you get about the second "shot" and how do you schedule that appointment?

This info would be really appreciated. And folks, keep sending along your input as it will help us all.

We are scheduled for Feb.2 in Plymouth at the Nat'l Guard Armory.

[JEEPONLY]

This morning at about 730 or so, we also scheduled for Huggins and the earliest date was Feb 19 th around noon. We both got our confirmations, and have our QR codes on our homepage on our phones. Woo hoo.

Dave

So, how/where did you sign up at Huggins?

[winni83]

We have Huggins on January 28th. Got the Vams E Mail last night around 10 PM. Immediately went on line and Huggins was one of the choices. We figured that while the risk of an adverse reaction may be low, better to be at a hospital site. No idea who administers the shot.

Good Luck.

[upthesaukee]

So, how/where did you sign up at Huggins?

It's part of the sign up process. Based on our Alton Bay address, with a within 10 mile radius, we picked Huggins. Other choice was LRCC in Laconia. Too late now, but if we had gone with Laconia, we would have had an appointment within 2 weeks rather than just under a month. Oh well, it is what it is.

Dave

[tis]

Do you think it will be easier to get appointments soon or do you think it will be a long time before the supply meets the demand? Or the distribution meets the demand-----

[ApS]

Florida has cancelled my County's vaccination appointments past January 20th. :rolleye1:

A new directive limits vaccinations to Florida residents. https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/bay-county/florida-state-surgeon-general-cracks-down-on-vaccine-tourism/

"Bay County resident, William Robinson, said he had no idea people were coming in from out of state to get vaccinated.

“I think they need to get that taken care of in their own home state where the vaccines are sent to their home state and are distributed by their own state,” said Robinson. “I’ve been waiting several weeks to get an appointment and haven’t been able to thus far".

No matter. I'm going to wait for the [one] Johnson & Johnson jab next month. :)

Pfizer and Moderna are behind on their contracted deliveries, and should surge to catch up at some point. We are likely to surpass a peak rate of 2 million per day.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

[tis]

Florida has cancelled my County's vaccination appointments past January 20th. :rolleye1:

A new directive limits vaccinations to Florida residents. https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/bay-county/florida-state-surgeon-general-cracks-down-on-vaccine-tourism/



No matter. I'm going to wait for the [one] Johnson & Johnson jab next month. :)

Pfizer and Moderna are behind on their contracted deliveries, and should surge to catch up at some point. We are likely to surpass a peak rate of 2 million per day.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Is the J & J supposed be approved next month? I have been wondering.

[tummyman]

From what I read, it appears sometime in February and then followed by Astra Zeneca and Novavax in maybe March. I think both of those vaccines will also require two shots but do not hold me to that. So far, it seems only J&J is a one shot deal and even then, they are looking at whether two shots might be even better on efficacy. J&J has also been having some manufacturing problems. There is no real way to determine what vaccine you will get, unless you wait until the very end and vaccines become much more readily available. The government pre-bought a lot of doses of Moderna and Pfizer, so they will be probably pushing those out first.

[Descant]

Despite some public protestations from the press, I think Trump did a great job getting ventilators manufactured and other equipment and manpower (hospital ships, portable hospitals) operational. Warp Speed was a triumph for vaccine development. Now it seems Biden is doing a good follow up with emphasis on vaccine distribution. This is wonderful continuity. "Don't worry. Be happy." Rescheduling an appointment is easy-peasy compared to three hours in line at the DMV.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

From what I read, it appears sometime in February and then followed by Astra Zeneca and Novavax in maybe March. I think both of those vaccines will also require two shots but do not hold me to that. So far, it seems only J&J is a one shot deal and even then, they are looking at whether two shots might be even better on efficacy. J&J has also been having some manufacturing problems. There is no real way to determine what vaccine you will get, unless you wait until the very end and vaccines become much more readily available. The government pre-bought a lot of doses of Moderna and Pfizer, so they will be probably pushing those out first.

The US pre-purchased 100 million doses of the J&J vaccine, and once approved I'd expect it to be the go-to option provided the efficacy is on par with the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines due to it being a one shot and done deal. J&J has already said that they anticipate having those 100 million doses all produced by spring provided the trial is a success and is granted EUA from the FDA. If J&J is approved, the light at the end of the tunnel gets a whole lot closer/brighter.

[jeffk]

I signed up first thing Friday morning and got a reply from nh.gov later that day telling me to expect an email from the CDC in a day or two. UNFORTUNATELY, the CDC email was routed into my SPAM folder. Not expecting an immediate response, I wasn't digging around to look for it. I found it on Sunday and immediately got scheduled but at that point I was pushed to March 10. Ah well. I figure by the end of April I should have had both shots and enough time for it to build to maximum immunity. In the grand scheme of things it won't matter too much. We will still be wearing masks and not gathering. I expect that will last until the Fall at least and maybe to the end of the year.

I worry about the initial effects of COVID but, if you don't have a severe case, you can be over it in a few weeks. What I fear is the longhauler effects. Some people have continual chronic fatigue. I know one man and his wife who lost their smell and taste. Months later, he still cannot smell or taste much and his wife says some foods now taste like gasoline to her. :eek: Those types of effects could be life altering.

[Flylady]

I am in Ca. for the winter. The County of LA opened up enrollment site for 65+ a week ago. The first two days it was impossible for most to get through to the website. By the time I completed enrollment the appointment slots were already gone. I waited an hour and then returned to the site. They had just opened up more appointments. So I received my first dose yesterday and need to return in 28 days for the 2nd dose. My NH friends are mostly scheduled towards the end of February.

[JEEPONLY]

It's part of the sign up process. Based on our Alton Bay address, with a within 10 mile radius, we picked Huggins. Other choice was LRCC in Laconia. Too late now, but if we had gone with Laconia, we would have had an appointment within 2 weeks rather than just under a month. Oh well, it is what it is.

Dave

I had called Huggins before 1/22 to get information. They said they would email. What they sent was a link to the vaccines.nh.gov site- big help!?!

After reading your post, I called Huggins, again. Turned out you had to be aware of the mileage to the vaccine site you wanted- I live i nMeredith so Huggins didn't show as an opportunity. I'm conflicted, emotionally, as my primary is employed by Huggins and I didn't get any notification for the Huggins option.

I have an appointment elsewhere, but in agreeing with an earlier poster, I would rather have gone to my familiar hospital/people and gotten the vaccine.

Better days ahead!!!!!

[upthesaukee]

I had called Huggins before 1/22 to get information. They said they would email. What they sent was a link to the vaccines.nh.gov site- big help!?!

After reading your post, I called Huggins, again. Turned out you had to be aware of the mileage to the vaccine site you wanted- I live i nMeredith so Huggins didn't show as an opportunity. I'm conflicted, emotionally, as my primary is employed by Huggins and I didn't get any notification for the Huggins option.

I have an appointment elsewhere, but in agreeing with an earlier poster, I would rather have gone to my familiar hospital/people and gotten the vaccine.

Better days ahead!!!!!

When we signed up, there was a drop down menu with the "within 10 miles" option visible. Our 3 options were Huggins, Belmont, and Laconia. Belmont was at Lakes Region Community College, and Laconia was LRGH (for LRGH employees only)

We were not sure where we would be directed initially, and we were ready to expand our search criteria to find a place to offer liking. Our daughter works for Huggins and she didn't know when they would be starting the injections.

Fortunately the two options met our needs right up front. Sorry you had problems.

Dave

[smith point boater]

My wife and I got our first shot Tuesday afternoon - great. Wait until you try and get an appt for the 2nd one in the specified timeframe -IMPOSSIBLE!!. We're eligible 2/22 - nothing before mid/late March anywhere in the state - we looked at sites over 100 miles away too.

[Lakegeezer]

My wife and I got our first shot Tuesday afternoon - great. Wait until you try and get an appt for the 2nd one in the specified timeframe -IMPOSSIBLE!!. We're eligible 2/22 - nothing before mid/late March anywhere in the state - we looked at sites over 100 miles away too.How does it work that you can try to schedule the second appointment? It isn't possible before your appointment. How long after your appointment can you try? Did you have to do anything to enable it? With 300,000 people trying and a current rate of 15,000/week, it is going be chaos for a while. Hopefully the doses (and appointments) available will quickly ramp up.

[Newbiesaukee]

How does it work that you can try to schedule the second appointment? It isn't possible before your appointment. How long after your appointment can you try? Did you have to do anything to enable it? With 300,000 people trying and a current rate of 15,000/week, it is going be chaos for a while. Hopefully the doses (and appointments) available will quickly ramp up.
We had ours yesterday. By the time I got home, I had an email from VAMS telling me I was vaccinated and I could make an appointment after 4 weeks. I went on VAMS this am and the earliest appointment I could get anywhere is in Plymouth, not my original location. This is for 7 weeks from vaccination. I called 211 and eventually got Connor who said the guidance from the CDC said the 2nd vaccine could be no earlier than 4 weeks but there was no specific guideline for later than 4 weeks. Strictly speaking this is true. As a physician I knew this because the studies were done at 4 weeks and anything else is a guess. Perhaps an educated guess...but 4 weeks would have been better. In addition while the plus one for my wife worked as it should have, there was a fair amount of confusion. Nonetheless, the National Guard was great and the entire experience well done. And the 211 operators were very helpful

Sorry for the long answer but maybe it will help. So if you get your shot, make your 2nd appointment. Also, Connor confirmed that going to another NH site was perfectly OK for the second shot.

If anyone’s experience was different, let us know. Smith Point’s seems to have been similar.

[Garcia]

Not sure how they are doing it in NH, but in MA I received an email with a link to schedule the second dose; it was an easy process and the clinic was very well organized. I'm in a pretty rural area which I think helped as the system has not been overwhelmed.

[tummyman]

Fauci et al saying 42 days is max...how does that work ??

[Newbiesaukee]

Fauci et al saying 42 days is max...how does that work ??

See my comments above. My earliest appointment this morning was for 49 days. Not ideal but probably better than no vaccine. For the elderly, one shot conveys 80% immunity, but second shot is about 95% effective for Moderna

Fauci is at the NIH, the recommendation is from CDC. The real truth is no one really knows. REAL science is not exact, it is not 100% and as more is learned recommendations change. We are, in effect, guinea pigs, but I’d rather have the first dose than none.

[DEJ]

My friend registered last Friday and has not received her VAMS email yet to get scheduled. Curious if anyone else is still waiting? She checked her spam and nothing there either. Thanks.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

We did the same thing, and never received an email. Try 271-4028 (VAM) , or 271-8826. The 2nd number was the one that actually worked for getting an appointment. Hope it works for you.

[smith point boater]

I should have also mentioned that when you and a spouse/partner are arriving together the person who is the "ad -on" is not on any list. Even though you entered their name at time of registration the National Guard ha no knowledge of the 2nd person coming. Its not a problem in that they were very good at re-registering spouse but you need to have a smart phone and capable of receiving an email on site. It is the cause of most of the delays we experienced. They were 45 min behind when we arrived.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Does anyone know whether or not it’s possible to receive the second shot in another state? We have shuffled flights around and hope to have both shots by early March, but if that’s not the case, does anyone have any knowledge about this? Can you do #1 in NH, #2 elsewhere? Thanks.

[TheTimeTraveler]

Does anyone know whether or not it’s possible to receive the second shot in another state? We have shuffled flights around and hope to have both shots by early March, but if that’s not the case, does anyone have any knowledge about this? Can you do #1 in NH, #2 elsewhere? Thanks.

I can't tell you for a fact, but I believe it would be extremely difficult. It's hard enough getting the first shot in your home state, but imagine how tough it would be to obtain a second shot in a location where you didn't get your first shot.....

Some States are requiring Driver's Licenses to prove identity and qualify for their eligibility in the State in question.

[TheTimeTraveler]

By the way, Florida WAS providing Vaccine shots to anyone over 65 (which included tourists and visitors), but NO MORE. That has now stopped.

You have to either live there year 'round, or have seasonal residency and can provide Florida utility bills (mailed to your Florida address) and the Florida deed.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

I can't tell you for a fact, but I believe it would be extremely difficult. It's hard enough getting the first shot in your home state, but imagine how tough it would be to obtain a second shot in a location where you didn't get your first shot.....

Some States are requiring Driver's Licenses to prove identity and qualify for their eligibility in the State in question.

Thank you. As snowbirds who own property in FL, that might make a difference, hopefully. Otherwise, going for a later date on #2 wouldn’t be ideal, but might be better than nothing, i. e., 50-60 days between shots.

[rick35]

I should have also mentioned that when you and a spouse/partner are arriving together the person who is the "ad -on" is not on any list. Even though you entered their name at time of registration the National Guard ha no knowledge of the 2nd person coming. Its not a problem in that they were very good at re-registering spouse but you need to have a smart phone and capable of receiving an email on site. It is the cause of most of the delays we experienced. They were 45 min behind when we arrived.

I registered on Friday but my wife received her referral on Saturday so we weren't able to register together. My appointment is next week and hers is in April. She called today and was told she can get her shot with me. I would think it should be easy where she is already registered.

[Steveo]

Fortunately I am scheduled for vaccine next Tuesday, unfortunately it is suppose to snow. Does anyone know if they will cancel appointments due to weather or if they do will you have to get another appointment months out.

I don't think it was real smart making all vaccine sites outdoors.

[JEEPONLY]

When we signed up, there was a drop down menu with the "within 10 miles" option visible. Our 3 options were Huggins, Belmont, and Laconia. Belmont was at Lakes Region Community College, and Laconia was LRGH (for LRGH employees only)

We were not sure where we would be directed initially, and we were ready to expand our search criteria to find a place to offer liking. Our daughter works for Huggins and she didn't know when they would be starting the injections.

Fortunately the two options met our needs right up front. Sorry you had problems.

Dave

I don't see how Huggins, Belmont and Laconia fall into a 10 mile radius (maybe Belmont and Laconia), but I guess I missed that menu- Huggins is easily 35 miles from me (Meredith)- got directed to Belmont.

Also- is there any set-up/protocol for necessitating getting the same "maker" shot as a second dose?

[Newbiesaukee]

The current recommendation is the same vaccine for the second shot. I am certain they are set up for this.

[Slickcraft]

The current recommendation is the same vaccine for the second shot. I am certain they are set up for this.

Yes you will get a card specifying the date and which vaccine you got. That will also be entered into the CDC system. On getting the second dose the card will be updated.

[winni83]

My wife and I just received our first Covid shot at Huggins Hospital. The entire process was extremely well managed. Appointment times were spot on, even a little earlier than scheduled. A rear area of the hospital has space dedicated to the process. Everything is done inside, no waiting in your car or getting a shot in your car. Individual rooms for the administration of the shot and a separate waiting area with a staff member present for 15 minutes to make sure there is no reaction. Huggins even makes the next appointment for the second shot while you are in the waiting area. For us, it is exactly 28 days and back to Huggins. We had expected real problems getting the second dose scheduled so we were very pleasantly surprised.

[Slickcraft]

I just received both a text and an email from the state of NH (Brian Eaton) asking if I successfully obtained an appointment, yes or no. And if no, what is the best email to reach me at.
Looks like NH is trying to be proactive.

[rick35]

Fortunately I am scheduled for vaccine next Tuesday, unfortunately it is suppose to snow. Does anyone know if they will cancel appointments due to weather or if they do will you have to get another appointment months out.

I don't think it was real smart making all vaccine sites outdoors.

I don't think the National Guard gets snow days. And I think this is important enough for us to brave the elements. I was thinking how much I appreciate that they spend hours in the cold for us and when I heard snow was coming it only adds to my gratitude. We'll be there too on Tuesday. Drive carefully and make sure to say thanks and God bless!

[upthesaukee]

I just received both a text and an email from the state of NH (Brian Eaton) asking if I successfully obtained an appointment, yes or no. And if no, what is the best email to reach me at.
Looks like NH is trying to be proactive.

Same thing with us. Feeling optimistic.

Dave

[WinnisquamZ]

Boston rep tests positive after getting 2nd dose. I find it discouraging the local news outlets dropped this story before it got legs

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/01/29/rep-stephen-lynch-tests-positive-for-covid-19/


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[Sue Doe-Nym]

Interesting conversation with representative making appointments this morning. She said that it’s very important to not have the second shot before the recommended time frame, BUT it can be received well AFTER the recommended schedule as it’s basically a booster shot. I am not sure that’s a terrific idea, but if you need to wait 60-70 days between shots, maybe it’s not a big deal. Physicians?

[winni83]

Sue

I think there is significant doubt about going much more than a few days beyond the recommended time schedule. See


https://wmur.com/article/dhmc-epidemiologist-says-science-still-out-on-spacing-vaccine-doses-farther-apart/35368501

See also about new appointments for second doses on Tuesday

https://wmur.com/article/new-appointments-for-second-doses-of-covid-19-vaccine-to-be-made-available/35368012

[FlyingScot]

Boston rep tests positive after getting 2nd dose. I find it discouraging the local news outlets dropped this story before it got legs

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/01/29/rep-stephen-lynch-tests-positive-for-covid-19/


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Bummer--I hope he remains OK.

We should expect a significant number of these stories. The vaccines are only 90 or 95% effective. Those are great odds for any individual, but with millions vaccinated, we will see a significant number of vaccinated people get sick, especially during the early days while the virus is still raging

[WinnisquamZ]

As noted, the vaccines, in theory, keep you from getting very ill. It doesn’t keep you from getting it or testing positive. With that said I ask the question, will you be able to fly, go back to work or school if you have been vaccinated and test positive?


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[Newbiesaukee]

Interesting conversation with representative making appointments this morning. She said that it’s very important to not have the second shot before the recommended time frame, BUT it can be received well AFTER the recommended schedule as it’s basically a booster shot. I am not sure that’s a terrific idea, but if you need to wait 60-70 days between shots, maybe it’s not a big deal. Physicians?

Please see my post #116 and #119. Basically, the representative was correct but misleading. No one really knows what happens if your 2nd shot is given more than 4 weeks after the Moderna first shot. The rep was given a CYA script.

On the other hand, NH folks who have gotten their first shot and been given a second appointment which stretch any reasonable guidelines have gotten an email from the state stating that if you wish to reschedule your 2nd shot it can be done and you are given instructions how to do it. This is only for those who have gotten first shot.

The state is really trying to do the right thing.

[FlyingScot]

As noted, the vaccines, in theory, keep you from getting very ill. It doesn’t keep you from getting it or testing positive. With that said I ask the question, will you be able to fly, go back to work or school if you have been vaccinated and test positive?


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When you say "keep you from getting...", that's not quite how this works, except in the case of a vaccine that is 100% effective. The vaccines reduced the study participants chance of infection by 94% or so compared to a placebo. Which means you are WAY less likely to become positive than you would otherwise be. But full protection requires a huge number of people to get vaccinated along with you.

[WinnisquamZ]

Yup. Herd immunity is needed for everyone to move forward.


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[mswlogo]

Boston rep tests positive after getting 2nd dose. I find it discouraging the local news outlets dropped this story before it got legs

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/01/29/rep-stephen-lynch-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

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You do know what 95% effective means, right?

That means 1 in 20 can still get infected !!!
So why is this such shocking news?

I'm glad the story didn't get legs, because it shouldn't.

It's all about statistics. If we all get the vaccine (or most of us), the virus will burn itself out. Because the vaccine will have a lower infection rate. But it won't be zero and there are tons of infected people walking around right now. In time there won't be. You need to look at it from a population point of view. Not individual infections.

This is why you still need to still wear masks and keep your guard up before and after you get the vaccine.

[WinnisquamZ]

Excellent, we understand each other. Herd immunity is the only way we move forward. By the way the new J&J one shot vaccine only has a 66% efficacy. So you are asking to have everyone vaccinated and everyone wear a mask until when?


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[mswlogo]

Excellent, we understand each other. Herd immunity is the only way we move forward. By the way the new J&J one shot vaccine only has a 66% efficacy. So you are asking to have everyone vaccinated and everyone wear a mask until when?

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I haven't run the numbers through the supercomputer models just yet.

But 95% sure sounds a lot better than 66%, doesn't it?

BTW, India expects to vaccinate 300 million by summer. Impressive, right?
At that rate it will take them 2 years to cover their population of 1.366 Billion !!

The other risks is poor countries don't have the infrastructure to get their population vaccinated.

If the "fire" is not put out QUICKLY, WORLD WIDE, it may mutate and the vaccines become ineffective and we start all over. Which might have already started.

We still have a ways to go here.

[loonguy]

We are scheduled for Huggins Hospital February 19 and are wondering which vaccine we are likely to receive. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

[winni83]

Our first shot at Huggins on 1/28 was Moderna and the second on 2/25 will be Moderna also. Do not know if that means that they always use Moderna.

[rick35]

Weather may impact vaccine distribution if NH follows what other states are doing. Some MD and PA sites are rescheduling Monday and Tuesday appointments to Wednesday or later due to travel safety concerns. One site is telling people to arrive on Wednesday at the same time. So that means there will be twice as many people in line. Hopefully NH will make an announcement soon so we can alter plans. We'll get through it.

[rick35]

Our Tuesday appointment was rescheduled to Monday at the same time because of the bad weather. I received an email from the State which I then had to accept.

[Steveo]

Our Tuesday was also rescheduled to Monday. We got an email and a live phone call as well. NH doing it right. I think they keep each Monday open for such situations.

[bobkatfly]

Any comments about LRCC? Which vaccine and are they making follow-ups during first visit?

[tummyman]

Received our shots...wife and me...at Plymouth this am...8:10 appointment. Received teh Moderna vaccine. The National Guard had the process totally under full control. Smooth as silk. Soldier who gave us our shots was actually Air Force from Pease. They were kind, efficient, knowledgeable, and totally efficient. After a brief checkin with ID, they directed us to a numbered parking spot....about 5 people just doing traffic contol. We waited a few minutes and then teh shots arrived. Quick. Then they had us turn on our 4way flashers so they knew we had received the shot....if a car does not have the flashers on, then they know who needs the shot. Had at least 4 people doing the actual vaccinations. Waited 15 minutes, then on our way. Total elapsed time was about 30 minutes overall. Also had an EMT from a local ambulance service on site and walking around if anyone had an issue. Totally safe !!!!!! We should all be grateful to have such nice Mat'l Guard young people...neighbors helping neighbors... to help in this pandemic. Our hats off to all. Now we are supposed to get an email later today to set up the next shot. I would not expect early as I assume that until they turn in a list of recipients first. Again, our thanks to the Nat'l Guard and the entire state government for a terrific well managed experience. The rest of the country should take notice !!!

[rick35]

I read an article online today that one city reached out to the local Chick Fil A manager to fix their vaccination line. They do know how to move people along.

[tummyman]

After being very thankful yesterday,. today (Tuesday) was the day. we could sign up for a second dose appointment in VAMS, starting at 8AM. The state claimed many new appointments would be available and that we should not have to wait more than a few days after the mandatory wait times. Also, we should go back to hte same site we got the first shot. Well, all that information seems totally false. No appointments available unless 60 days out. No appointments at the site we got the first shot...Plymouth. As a mater of fact, it is not even a choice. So the whole plan has fallen apart !!!!!!

[Newbiesaukee]

Same problem trying to get 2nd shot.NH sent a subsequent email saying they are adding slots all the time so keep trying. Problem is, you need to cancel to get a new one which is later than your previous one. I understand the need to cancel but then u are tying up spots you can’t use and others could.

It is not necessary to return to first site to get your second...but nothing available in 50 mile radius to get a 2nd shot faster than 6.5 weeks after first....now I’m into April.

I guess I’ll go make another appointment for 2nd shot I can’t keep. A lose-lose proposition.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Same problem trying to get 2nd shot.NH sent a subsequent email saying they are adding slots all the time so keep trying. Problem is, you need to cancel to get a new one which is later than your previous one. I understand the need to cancel but then u are tying up spots you can’t use and others could.

It is not necessary to return to first site to get your second...but nothing available in 50 mile radius to get a 2nd shot faster than 6.5 weeks after first....now I’m into April.

I guess I’ll go make another appointment for 2nd shot I can’t keep. A lose-lose proposition.

That’s really very sad....hopefully they will fix the problems soon. It’s more than a little bit unsettling to be unable to follow CDC guidelines re 2nd shot time frame through no fault of your own. Maybe waiting 60+ days won’t make a difference, but maybe it reduces the efficacy of the first....who knows?

[winniplayhouse]

I know multiple people who cancelled and rebooked a handful of times and eventually got slots much better than their first ones. It's true that they seem to be constantly adding new slots so you have to keep checking. Which is super annoying, especially for people who are trying to work today as well.

[winniplayhouse]

Also, the system will physically allow you to book slots BEFORE the recommended wait time between doses (21 days for Pfizer and 28 for Moderna) and I know a few people who accidentally booked too early and had to rebook.

[rick35]

We received our first shots yesterday and was told to book our second shots for around March first. The vams system only shows dates beginning Apr 3rd. I called 211 and was told they're trying to fix the system and to keep trying. If that doesn't work I was told to call and they'll schedule us manually. I couldn't do that today because that system isn't working either. Sounds like NH is trying to keep with the manufacturer recommended dates but CDC says it can be longer.

[tummyman]

Finally got through on the call line after an hour on hold. Was told book anything that i could and they would get back to me with other options. Really??? Why didn't they just plug in a second appointmeny when we got the shot. The state claimed lots of slots available and most would get the shots around or slightly after the time frame. Person told me to just book anything. So instead of Plymouth, we are at Exeter NH...over 50 miles away on April 3rd....60 days after first shot vs 28 recommended. The whole process just collapsed! No answers from state. Useless web site.

[winni83]

I do not understand how the NH and VAMS systems are unable to confirm second shots within the required window when Huggins Hospital was able to give us a written confirmed appointment exactly 28 days from our first shot while we were in the waiting area for the required 15 minutes after the first shot. Now our second appointment does not show up on the VAMS website, but Huggins specifically told us that we are all set and that we SHOULD NOT try to book or confirm a second shot on the VAMS website.

[TheTimeTraveler]

It's absolutely BS how the State of New Hampshire is handling the second shot scenario! WHY do you need to make ANOTHER appointment after you struggle to make your first one?

I only say this because in Florida the Publix Supermarket chain is handling many of the Vaccinations in the State. Once you make your first appointment they AUTOMATICALLY provide you an appointment in 28 days, and tell you to return at the exact same time. Easy. Done. No more hassles!

Automatic second appointments should be the rule of the day. All 50 States should climb on board the same train.......

[tummyman]

i sent a note to WMUR reporter who had a great article yesterday on the issue. Following is her reporting just a few minutes ago via an email to me. Stand by....this is just "breaking news"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Below is from Jean Mackin, WMUR

How frustrating and you are NOT alone.
We just got an update so I wanted to pass this along right away:

State is apologizing for technical issue with the CDC VAMS website not allowing 2nd dose appointment scheduling today.
The VAMS website was not seeing NH locations. State says it’s working on issue, those locations should appear by end of today or tomorrow.

Perry Plummer says they know how many people need dose two, the state has those doses, and people will have appointments within 7 days of when they’re due.

For now, asking for patience. Everyone will be able to get on and schedule or reschedule to an appropriate time.

2-1-1 is swamped and cannot help schedule or reschedule a 2nd dose right now

Jennifer Crompton will have full reporting today - she just conducted the interview with the state.

Take care,
Jean Mackin

[JEEPONLY]

I am going through the same thing. :confused: I have been waiting since Jan. 26 to get my 2nd appointment at the Laconia state site at LRCC.

i have my 1st appointment at LRCC coming up- sorry to hear there are problems scheduling your 2nd.
Question- Is this a drive-up facility or in-building?
Thanks in advance!

[winniplayhouse]

My parents went to LRCC. You stay in your car. They said it was extremely organized!

[rick35]

We went to Nashua High on Monday. There were about 6-8 cars in the lot when we arrived and I think we were the last ones for the day. That was good as that's when the snow was really picking up and the Guard men and women already had a full day. We pulled into a parking spot and they came to us. I feared a really long line and a lot of shuffling up the line. Other than the problems with making our second appointment I have to say that it has been well planned and executed. They've committed to fixing the second appointments today or tomorrow. It could be worse. You could be in Boston having to wait in line at Gillette or Fenway. And they're only scheduling 75 and over.

[smith point boater]

Tummyman - I got the same note from Jean Mackin. Nice but its not helping. WMUR is not getting the full story

I just talked to 211 again (2/3 at 7:15 am). Very nice young man but he basically told me we're being lied to about the appointments and availibility. We need one for 2/23 and he said don't even bother looking before this weekend. Sounds to me like Perry Plummer (NHDHHS) who says on TV that everything is being fixed and there is plenty of supply is all but lying to us. Supply is arriving weekly (to be expected) but appointment piece and scheduling is not going to improve soon

[Newbiesaukee]

I tried again this morning on VAMS for the 2nd shot and succeeded in getting a later appointment than my previously too late appointment. Very frustrating and will just wait until better news although my “new appointment “ is beyond anyone’s acceptable time limits after the first shot. It’s now about 9 weeks.

[rick35]

Scheduling is offline now so I hope they're inserting the fix.

[Steveo]

Site finally opened up, was able to get March 5th in Concord (32 days after doze 1).

[Newbiesaukee]

No luck anywhere within 50 miles except 8 weeks out.

[tummyman]

Just went on at 2:50PM Wednesday Feb 3. Site may be on line, but appointment process is still a mess. Nothing available in March. We are still out 8 weeks and cannot improve things. Allegedly they were going to have sites for second shots only, but nothing. It is time for the state to stop this game and tell people by email that they should not schedule anything now until the site is fixed. Shut it down. I am sick and tired of cancelling and then trying tp reschedule. VAMS is a total pain in the a- - !!!! ALL statements from NH about fixing this mess are wrong. Sad, since the process of first shots went so smoothly, including the extremely organized Nat'l Guard folks who administered the shots.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Time Traveler, in post #165, explained how Publix in Florida is doing it, and that’s the only system that makes any sense! NH could be saving a lot of manpower and angst if they would incorporate such a simple system for scheduling and administering the vaccine. Huggins has a similar system also, as described by winni83, but we weren’t fortunate enough to obtain an appointment there. Argh! Leave it to the bureaucrats to complicate something that could be much simpler.

[rick35]

We're trying to use a broken CDC site. I think it's out NH hands at this point. Remember you don't need your second shot until the beginning or March and I hope they'll figure this out to get us back on schedule. There's plenty of time but it's still frustrating.

[gillygirl]

Time Traveler, in post #165, explained how Publix in Florida is doing it, and that’s the only system that makes any sense! NH could be saving a lot of manpower and angst if they would incorporate such a simple system for scheduling and administering the vaccine. Huggins has a similar system also, as described by winni83, but we weren’t fortunate enough to obtain an appointment there. Argh! Leave it to the bureaucrats to complicate something that could be much simpler.

To be clear, it’s only a very limited number of Publix doing this, and none anywhere near me.

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[Sue Doe-Nym]

GG, I was really pointing out the system rather than the site. We had our flu shots at Publix last year, and it was very efficiently done.

[tis]

They are having a terrible time getting appointments at Publix also.

[Newbiesaukee]

The Union Leader just reported that NH is going to trash VAMS and develop its own system for appointments. Not clear when that happens or what happens to those who have appointments. Can’t post link but Google. Sorry. I did not realize that only a few states had adopted VAMS.

[winni83]

Here is the link. I too had no idea that VAMS was not used by most states. Tragic situation for sure,

https://www.unionleader.com/news/health/coronavirus/state-vows-to-create-own-vaccine-schedule-platform/article_e537183b-7349-5181-998d-5aa0bd45220f.html

[TiltonBB]

It's absolutely BS how the State of New Hampshire is handling the second shot scenario! WHY do you need to make ANOTHER appointment after you struggle to make your first one?

I only say this because in Florida the Publix Supermarket chain is handling many of the Vaccinations in the State. Once you make your first appointment they AUTOMATICALLY provide you an appointment in 28 days, and tell you to return at the exact same time. Easy. Done. No more hassles!

Automatic second appointments should be the rule of the day. All 50 States should climb on board the same train.......
Many people in Florida are having the same problems getting in when the appointments become available. My niece in Rye, NH got a Florida Publix appointment for me on Sunday January 31, at 3:24 PM. The second shot was scheduled in the same confirmation email for 28 days out. I arrived at 3:05 PM had the shot by 3:15, and after a 10 minute waiting period I was out the door.

What I find interesting is that many Florida people are having trouble getting in on the website and my niece in Rye has now been able to get 11 Florida people appointments. I have no idea how that works!

[TheTimeTraveler]

Keep in mind that my beef with the New Hampshire rollout of the Corona Virus Vaccines is not the first injection. My question is why does New Hampshire make folks go through the hoops AGAIN in order to get a second injection? There's a better way to do it and Publix in Florida does it properly (Publix has folks return at the same time frame in 21 or 28 days for an automatic second injection WITHOUT signing up again for a second appointment).

All 50 States have sign up issues for the first injection, and sadly nothing can be done about that until the supply exceeds the demand.

Again, there is no reason to make anyone go thru a second sign up process when it can be done automatically.

[Slickcraft]

We did get our shots of Moderna yesterday afternoon. We don't have 2nd appointments yet, the earliest shown is March 31. The Governor says that a scheduling fix is in the works so we will wait to schedule the 2nd shots.

The National Guard was well organized. They did not make use of the QR codes that we had and they gave us the same list of questions that we had completed online. At the time of receiving the shot you verbally say that none of the conditions apply.

They check your ID, find you on the list and then you are directed to a parking spot. There are 3 long rows marked with cones so there is an open space on each side. I was on time for my 3:40 appointment and parked by 3:45. Then a long wait. My wife had a 4:00 time and I saw her park near the start of another row. So it looked like two time slots of cars, maybe 40 or 50 total, were in place then the vaccination staff with carts started down each row. I got the jab at 4:10 and my wife at about 4:12. Then you put your flashers on , wait 15 minutes and then leave. Flashers on, means that you have received the shot.

Just prior to the shot an assistant takes your ID and then after the shot gives the ID back along with a filled out card.

[thinkxingu]

Someone on my town forum posted not long ago that the VAMS system is up and running as s/he was able to schedule a second shot much closer to the first. YMMV.

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[Newbiesaukee]

Yes, just got 2nd shot appointment exactly when I wanted.

[smith point boater]

You have to be diligent. My wife and I have been refreshing site every 10 min - it paid off - we got an appt on our first eligible day al beit late in the day

[tummyman]

Still trying for 2nd shot, but have faith. Curiosity, has anybody had any reactions to Moderna first shot. Wife had slight fever, muscle aches, tired, no energy for about 24 hours, then it went away. Wondering if anyone else experienced any similar issues.

[JEEPONLY]

We did get our shots of Moderna yesterday afternoon. We don't have 2nd appointments yet, the earliest shown is March 31. The Governor says that a scheduling fix is in the works so we will wait to schedule the 2nd shots.

The National Guard was well organized. They did not make use of the QR codes that we had and they gave us the same list of questions that we had completed online. At the time of receiving the shot you verbally say that none of the conditions apply.

They check your ID, find you on the list and then you are directed to a parking spot. There are 3 long rows marked with cones so there is an open space on each side. I was on time for my 3:40 appointment and parked by 3:45. Then a long wait. My wife had a 4:00 time and I saw her park near the start of another row. So it looked like two time slots of cars, maybe 40 or 50 total, were in place then the vaccination staff with carts started down each row. I got the jab at 4:10 and my wife at about 4:12. Then you put your flashers on , wait 15 minutes and then leave. Flashers on, means that you have received the shot.

Just prior to the shot an assistant takes your ID and then after the shot gives the ID back along with a filled out card.

Where did this take place?
Did you and your wife apply separately and, therefore, received different times?

[rick35]

Something is very weird when I try to schedule. Some times I can't connect. Sometimes it takes me to April 3rd and other times to April 6th.

[winni83]

We had our first shot of Moderna on January 28th. I had mild soreness in my arm for a day. My wife had more significant soreness for several days. No other reactions. It seems that the second shot may produce more symptoms, but nothing too serious.

[Slickcraft]

Where did this take place?
Did you and your wife apply separately and, therefore, received different times?

Laconia; LRCC. Yes we had separate appointments, did not trust the add a person feature.

[GregW11]

Was able to finally schedule second Moderna vaccination at 6:15 this evening. Appointment is for 6 Mar (5 days late) in Plymouth.

Very, very mild reaction to first vaccination - took Tylenol and very mild headache and muscle pains went away quickly. That persisted for about two days. No big deal at all.


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[rick35]

I'm finally coming to the conclusion that this is hosed. I thought they would figure it out this week but I'm not so sure. I read the Union Leader and WMUR stories and get more confused. Am I supposed to book an April appointment or not? Will someone from the State contact me? Will my April appointment get switched to March? When I went to the NH website there's no information. I guess I'll need to call 211 tomorrow.

[JEEPONLY]

Laconia; LRCC. Yes we had separate appointments, did not trust the add a person feature.

Thank you.

I'll find out, tomorrow, if the add a person thing worked (reason foe asking!)- I hope tomorrow's coming snow won't affect things

WMUR- starting Sunday, all first vaccinations will come with a card declaring the appointment for the second shot. Also- previously set 2nd appointments should now be easy to cancel, and then go and reschedule. I don't know if this means two trips to VAMS or not- but the Governor said it was fixed!

[rick35]

I've been into VAMS a hundred times. Nothing has been fixed.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

It’s my understanding,from WMUR and Gov. Sununu, from now on, when you receive shot #1, you will be assigned the date/time/place of the 2nd shot. Therefore, there won’t be a need to engage in the frustrating exercise of trying to schedule the next. Fingers crossed.
Oops...my bad....the new system starts Sunday, 2/7.

[Lakegeezer]

Got my first jab today at the Armory in Plymouth. Great crew of soldiers, including the medic that gave the jab. When I got home an hour later, I logged into VAMS and there were plenty of appointments within 100 miles. The earliest date I found was March 20 and most appointments were in April. The folks that gave me the jab weren't scheduling appointments and so far, I haven't received an email telling me what to do next. For me, logging into my VAMS account and clicking on "schedule an appointment" worked great. Would I rather have a March 3'rd date and get the second jab right on day 28? Sure. But, two and a half weeks late is well within spec, so I am happy. So far (3 hours), the only effect I can notice is a light pressure at the injection site in my arm. About the weight of a small paper notebook resting on the arm.

[Slickcraft]

I've been into VAMS a hundred times. Nothing has been fixed.

Yes our expedience as well

[smith point boater]

Our experience is that you literally have to go in and check VAMS every 10 -15 min It changes that fast. We've been able to move up our appt to within 48hrs of our desired date. Other people are doing this because appts disappear while you are watching. Click on the time as soon as you see it or its gone!!!
The spouse/partner add on does work - we did not find it an issue at all.

Starting Sunday governor says state will start the 1st shot 2nd appt given policy. This doesn't help the thousands that have already given 1st shot and struggling to get the second timely appt

[rick35]

It took two hours on hold but I got through on 211 this morning. We're now on a call back list to schedule our second appointment. I was told i will get a call within two weeks and the second shot will be within 7 days of the recommended date.

[Newbiesaukee]

I got my perfect appointment 2 days ago.

It took 13 tries over several days. Last night I got a series of emails from VAMS each one stating that I had cancelled an appointment. The last one said I cancelled an appointment 2 days ago and have not rescheduled and need to do it.

I went on VAMS and my perfect appointment is there as well as the correct list of cancellations and rescheduling, including my correct appointment as scheduled.

This has been very disconcerting. Of course, after each cancel, reappointment I immediately got VAMS confirmation and email.

But this suggests a VAMS glitch. Not what we need right now. I did take screenshots confirming my appointment “just in case” but not comfortable with this.

Has this delayed, inaccurate VAMS communication happened to anyone else?

[smith point boater]

Newbie - Exact same experience except I didn't get an email saying I cancelled and had not rescheduled. My wife and I did go thru several days and MANY hours monitoring the VAMS site and locations looking for available appts to open on the day we wanted. Finally got it yesterday - our 2nd appt is exactly 28 days and 4 hrs from the 1st shot - perfect.
2 weeks after that we hope to have some normality back in our life - al beit still wearing masks and keeping distances to protect everyone else

[Slickcraft]

It took two hours on hold but I got through on 211 this morning. We're now on a call back list to schedule our second appointment. I was told i will get a call within two weeks and the second shot will be within 7 days of the recommended date.

We went through 2 days of checking several times per hour and the earliest we could schedule was March 27th; 3 weeks late. So we finally did that. We also talked to a 211 person yesterday and provided our contact info. We got the same promise of a call back to reschedule.

One downside of scheduling a date is that you can no longer check to see if anything earlier is available unless you cancel the appointment that you already have.

[JEEPONLY]

As some have experienced, our appointed went unflawed.

Appointment time- Friday, 2/5- 5:40pm.
As WE entered the lot, there was a lit sign saying do not arrive more than ten minutes before your appointment- well, if you didn't already know this, and were concerned about being late (long lines, etc.)- anyway, moot point.

We pulled into the lot at 5:25 (eek!- five minutes early!). By the time we went through 2-3 "stations" (courteous and professional), we were right on the dot.

A questionnaire, which did not get collected, and a separate document for me (the "add on person" (they called it the plus-one, a process that went well) which they did keep- name/address/email.

A soldier came to the car, confirmed who we are, and the "shot" was the next step.

The male nurse giving the shot arrived and explained who he was (from out of district) and assured us of his abilities.

Got the shot (Moderna)- gave us cards recording the event- 5:55, emergency blinkers on for 15 minutes while sitting in the lot- 6:10- no reactions and on our way!!! We were told 28 days for the next one.

Here's to getting the second part just done just as easily! :laugh:

[smith point boater]

Slick - what you need to do is both register (which assume you are)with a plus one. Keep searching til ONE of you gets the appt. Then the other person keeps looking until you get an earlier appt and take that one. then cancel the first one and start looking again until you get an earlier one then start the process over again My wife and I kept leap- frogging until we got what we wanted. BTW we were researching 4 sites Belmont, Concord, Hooksett, Dover - Would not have bothered us to drive to any of those. Good luck moving on up

[tummyman]

Finally had success this morning, but had to take a site in Concord on Loudon Rd. Only place that had an opening at the correct interval. So I have about a 45 mile drive to get 2nd shot. All other locations had no appointments in March except 8 weeks out from out 1st shot. Spent yesterday and made maybe 25 inquires all day long but had zero success. I am hoping this is an outdoor site like we visited in Plymouth.

So March 2nd is a "go". Now hope wife will be able to get her shot at the same time, as we did put her name down on my application. If so, we will cancel a later in the week appointment for her.

[rick35]

We were able to book March 3rd in Concord. It's farther away than we'd like but at least we're scheduled. If we get a call back to schedule in Nashua we'll cancel Concord but I'm not very trusting. And I'm not looking forward to being on hold again for two hours. I can recite the recording by heart now.

[Slickcraft]

We also just got appointments in Concord for March 3rd, our first day of eligibility.

[Woody38]

My wife and I had appointments for the vaccine on the same day at different locations. I dropped my wife off and waited for he. Then I needed to use a bathroom so I went in and asked if I could do that. The kind young lady said I could get the vaccine if I wanted. She asked if I was eligible. Yes. So she put me in line. in registering I tolk the young man I had an appt. later at another location. No problem. He cancelled that and made me one there. Done.
We both now have appt. at the same time, same place for the second dose.
They had plenty vaccine available and are anxious to vaccinate everyone.

__________________________________

I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

[TheTimeTraveler]

The recent posts indicate good news regarding the increasing ability to schedule Vaccine appointments.

It appears the supply is slowly increasing (albeit very slowly) and this is really good news for all our senior citizens.

Let's hope the vaccine supplies continue ramping up so that everyone who wants a vaccine can finally get one over the next few months.

Without a doubt, there will continue to be "glitches" along the way! Think positive.



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[Flyfisha]

Tummyman
The Concord site is in the old Sears auto service building. They pull up the huge garage doors and take 8 cars at a time. No need to leave your vehicle. I noticed a distinct improvement in their organization from my first to my second injection.

[tummyman]

Flyfisha.....perfect. Thanks so much for the great info. Really appreciate it. One last thing...I assume it is the Moderna vaccine they are issuing?

[Steveo]

Flyfisha.....perfect. Thanks so much for the great info. Really appreciate it. One last thing...I assume it is the Moderna vaccine they are issuing?

Yes Concord is giving out Moderna.

BTW: This morning, all the major sites have plenty of availability first week in March. They finally got it together.

[rick35]

I took my chances and cancelled our Concord appointment and was able to book March 2nd in Nashua. Better a 15 minute ride than 45.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

I read somewhere that it’s not suggested that a person take Tylenol or ibuprofen prior to the injection (to ward off unpleasant reactions) because doing so could/would reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. It would be helpful to hear yay or nay from our forum medical geniuses. Thanks.

[WinnisquamZ]

I read somewhere that it’s not suggested that a person take Tylenol or ibuprofen prior to the injection (to ward off unpleasant reactions) because doing so could/would reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. It would be helpful to hear yay or nay from our forum medical geniuses. Thanks.



Correct. Can affect clotting of the blood


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[Newbiesaukee]

I read somewhere that it’s not suggested that a person take Tylenol or ibuprofen prior to the injection (to ward off unpleasant reactions) because doing so could/would reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine. It would be helpful to hear yay or nay from our forum medical geniuses. Thanks.

No one really knows, but it seems prudent not to take these just to prevent vaccination discomfort. The theory behind ibuprofen is that it is anti inflammatory and you want the inflammation to aid immunity. Tylenol is not anti inflammatory and the explanation is a bit more esoteric. But this is all theoretic.

OTOH, some people take 81mg aspirin or other anti inflammatory meds daily for medical reasons and should consult the prescribing physician, not the internet.

Taking these after vaccination if you get symptoms seems OK.

I had the expected side effects from the first, but still will not take the meds before the second.

NSAIDs can interfere with clotting, Tylenol does not, but I do not believe that is part of this discussion. People on blood thinners may bleed more from an injection but, again, discuss with the prescribing physician.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Newbiesaukee, I tried a THANKS to you, but it wouldn’t let me. Thanks for your help! This information should help many here. 😎

[Newbiesaukee]

Newbiesaukee, I tried a THANKS to you, but it wouldn’t let me. Thanks for your help! This information should help many here. 😎

I had inadvertently duplicated my post, then deleted.

So many have helped me on the Forum for so many years, it’s nice to be able to help.

[gravy boat]

Our daughter is 28 and is very healthy and trim (works out and kick boxes).
She works in MA for a non-profit -- she is a mental health counselor and as such received the vaccine.
She received Moderna. First dose a few weeks ago and only a sore arm.
Second dose this past Monday and 10-12 hours later she had a horrible headache, terrible muscle aches and could barely get out of bed. That lasted about 12 hours.


I know some have few side effects.
Just sharing that it could be bad for some, even those young and healthy.
Hopefully you all have few to no side effects.

[bobkatfly]

Jeep, thanks for the detailed report. My wife and I have a 12:40 appointment today for the first shot. Going to follow your arrival time experience. Almost a hour ride for us (with our 1 year and 4 year old grandkids in tow) so have to get ready now:eek:

As some have experienced, our appointed went unflawed.
Appointment time- Friday, 2/5- 5:40pm.
As WE entered the lot, there was a lit sign saying do not arrive more than ten minutes before your appointment- well, if you didn't already know this, and were concerned about being late (long lines, etc.)- anyway, moot point.

We pulled into the lot at 5:25 (eek!- five minutes early!). By the time we went through 2-3 "stations" (courteous and professional), we were right on the dot.

A questionnaire, which did not get collected, and a separate document for me (the "add on person" (they called it the plus-one, a process that went well) which they did keep- name/address/email.

A soldier came to the car, confirmed who we are, and the "shot" was the next step.

The male nurse giving the shot arrived and explained who he was (from out of district) and assured us of his abilities.

Got the shot (Moderna)- gave us cards recording the event- 5:55, emergency blinkers on for 15 minutes while sitting in the lot- 6:10- no reactions and on our way!!! We were told 28 days for the next one.

Here's to getting the second part just done just as easily! :laugh:

[Blue Thunder]

This thread is getting pretty long in the tooth but I’ll add my experience anyway.
I am a First Responder in Mass. I got my first dose (Moderna) in Mid January and second dose exactly 28 days later. I had no discomfort with the first dose and only a sore arm for two days with the second. IMPORTANT point for me is that I had the virus in September. The speculation for now is that since I had the virus my body had already started to build the antibodies therefore the second shot didn’t give me any side effects. Not the case with many of my coworkers though. Fever, chills, fatigue etc for about 12-24 hours....

BT

[bobkatfly]

Just finished. Went smooth. Got Pfizer and second appt. one month out.

[SailinAway]

I experienced two system errors. My first registration didn't go through, but I wasn't notified of that for 9 days. There was no sign of any problem when I registered. When I reregistered, I couldn't get an appointment until April 10---10 weeks after my neighbor, who registered at the same time as me. Then the system notified me a second time that my registration didn't go through---it took an hour on the phone to figure out that wasn't true.

Warning: if you don't get the promised email within 48 hours, reregister.

This kind of system error means that older people who should have been vaccinated earlier will end up in the younger group at a later date.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

I wonder what’s going to happen with appointments that were cancelled state-wide for tomorrow due to the storm. Are those people now going to be pushed out for many weeks/months? Our first shot is scheduled for this Thursday late, and we’re hoping to beat the next storm scheduled for Thursday P.M.

[SailinAway]

I wonder what’s going to happen with appointments that were cancelled state-wide for tomorrow due to the storm. Are those people now going to be pushed out for many weeks/months? Our first shot is scheduled for this Thursday late, and we’re hoping to beat the next storm scheduled for Thursday P.M.

WMUR says that Tuesday appointments will be rescheduled for later this week and that officials will call people to reschedule.

https://www.wmur.com/article/some-new-hampshire-coronavirus-vaccine-sites-close-winter-storm/35509121

[tummyman]

We had our first shot rescheduled....was to be Feb 2, but they moved everyone to Feb 1st due to storm forecast. I had heard that they had at least one day a week set aside in case they had to make a mass cancellation. We got an email moving the date and saying that our times were exactly the same. So I suspect they already have a plan and it will be easy. But fingers crossed !!!!!!!!!!!

[ApS]

Not everyone is happy...

https://www-thestar-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thestar.com/amp/life/relationships/advice/2021/02/23/readers-speak-up-en-masse-for-neighbour-who-fled-to-florida-ask-ellie.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16141753830860&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thestar.com%2Flife%2Fre lationships%2Fadvice%2F2021%2F02%2F23%2Freaders-speak-up-en-masse-for-neighbour-who-fled-to-florida-ask-ellie.html

[smith point boater]

Wife and I both got our 2nd shots - as scheduled - on Tuesday. Again at LRCC. Process was much smoother than the first time and we were in and out in 45 min. including the 15 minute post shot wait.

FYI - Make sure you remind the shot giver that you are there for 2nd shot. They were prepared for my 2nd shot but for some reason thought my wife was her first. Quickly clarified and the person just went and got a different syringe.
There is a slight difference in the 2nd shot "formula" so make sure you get the right one

Hope you all get your shots soon!!!

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Smith Point Boater, we are wondering whether you had reactions to the 2nd shot, other than sore arm, etc? We understand the 2nd dose is stronger. We are booked on a flight about 36 hours after the shots, which is probably cutting it close. Thanks.

[Newbiesaukee]

Although, the second dose of the mRNA vaccines have been said to have more side effects, I can not find any reliable references that the second dose is in anyway different from the first. The only references I can find state they are exactly the same.

My personal experience is really of no value to answer the question but my wife and I had our second Moderna yesterday. For the first shot, my wife had a sore arm and I had a sore arm as well as a headache, weakness, nausea which lasted less than a day. With the second shot, I have a sore arm and my wife is in bed with chills, headache, fatigue and nausea. I’m certain she’ll feel better later.

We’re both happy to have had them and the National Guard, this time at Plymouth, were terrific.

[Newbiesaukee]

This is from CDC website. My wife is awake and feels much better.

[smith point boater]

Sue - As with the first shot we both had sore arms (at injection site ) about 12 hrs later. It lasted less than 24 hrs for me. On the 2nd shot my wife had some muscle pain near her hip (not a pull or strain) overnite. She took 2 Ibuprofin and it went away by mid day Wednesday.

We had heard many varying reaction stories - all true. 2 daughter in laws in their 30's (they are in the medical field) had much harsher reactions. Feel we were lucky to get away with minor issues both times. I've read the reaction is worse the younger you are. We are 66/65. Whatever it is its worth it - 2 more weeks and we'll be as protected as we can be.

FYI We waited 24hrs and are on the road to Florida for a long awaited trip

Good luck with yours

[CK5 Truck]

IDK how old most of you are here, but it seems most want the shot but seem to be nervous about when they will be able to get it. I have a customer who is a Phizer executive and this is what he has explained to me, MOST of this whole thing is political, yes people have died and that is serious, this vaccine that everyone was in a hurry to get out was actually ready 3 weeks BEFORE the election, BUT the political powers that be kept it delayed so Trump wouldnt get any positive press. Even more sinister than that is he says there are no less than 6 drug therapies available and have been available, but if your diagnosis is COVID 19 your Dr was not allowed to prescribe it, the diagnosis had to be something along the lines of upper respiratory infection. This is absolutely TRUE as I had a particularly horrible case of COVID in the beginning and and it took me describing to my Dr I think Im dying that she changed my diagnosis to upper respiratory infection where I received one of the Rx and within 48 hrs I was back to my normal self even though the Rx was 4x a day for almost a month. Ive never worn a mask throughout and I have never been sick since. If anyone reading this gets COVID (bad case) ask to have diagnosis called upper resperatory infection so you can be treated or esle get a new Dr. Playing politics with peoples lives is just plain evil.

[thinkxingu]

IDK how old most of you are here, but it seems most want the shot but seem to be nervous about when they will be able to get it. I have a customer who is a Phizer executive and this is what he has explained to me, MOST of this whole thing is political, yes people have died and that is serious, this vaccine that everyone was in a hurry to get out was actually ready 3 weeks BEFORE the election, BUT the political powers that be kept it delayed so Trump wouldnt get any positive press. Even more sinister than that is he says there are no less than 6 drug therapies available and have been available, but if your diagnosis is COVID 19 your Dr was not allowed to prescribe it, the diagnosis had to be something along the lines of upper respiratory infection. This is absolutely TRUE as I had a particularly horrible case of COVID in the beginning and and it took me describing to my Dr I think Im dying that she changed my diagnosis to upper respiratory infection where I received one of the Rx and within 48 hrs I was back to my normal self even though the Rx was 4x a day for almost a month. Ive never worn a mask throughout and I have never been sick since. If anyone reading this gets COVID (bad case) ask to have diagnosis called upper resperatory infection so you can be treated or esle get a new Dr. Playing politics with peoples lives is just plain evil.It's so weird how even the UK is in on the conspiracy since, well, they only approved it 10 days earlier with a much shorter evaluation process that was, in fact, criticized by many.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/04/how-vaccine-approval-compares-between-the-uk-europe-and-the-us

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[TiltonBB]

Sue - As with the first shot we both had sore arms (at injection site ) about 12 hrs later. It lasted less than 24 hrs for me. On the 2nd shot my wife had some muscle pain near her hip (not a pull or strain) overnite. She took 2 Ibuprofin and it went away by mid day Wednesday.

We had heard many varying reaction stories - all true. 2 daughter in laws in their 30's (they are in the medical field) had much harsher reactions. Feel we were lucky to get away with minor issues both times. I've read the reaction is worse the younger you are. We are 66/65. Whatever it is its worth it - 2 more weeks and we'll be as protected as we can be.

FYI We waited 24hrs and are on the road to Florida for a long awaited trip

Good luck with yours

Reading this does not give me that warm and fuzzy feeling! I had the first shot 28 days ago and had no reaction at all. The second shot is at noon today so we shall see........

I am picking someone up at the airport at 2:30 PM. Maybe I should tell them to take an Uber and come home and go back to bed. :eek::liplick:

[Newbiesaukee]

The warm and fuzzy feeling should come with your ability to get your second shot.

In a perfect world, it would be better, in my personal non-professional opinion, if you could make other airport arrangements for your guest.

You’ve given yourself a very tight time window. Stuff happens. Get your shot,go home and get on with your life.

[FlyingScot]

MOST of this whole thing is political

Most of this whole thing is 500,000 dead Americans.

The rest of your post is also full of misinformation and conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure everybody understands that by now.

[DEJ]

Most of this whole thing is 500,000 dead Americans.

The rest of your post is also full of misinformation and conspiracy theories, but I'm pretty sure everybody understands that by now.

So according to you the Phizer Exec. is a conspiracy spreader. Come on man. :rolleye2:

[Sue Doe-Nym]

If this discussion becomes too political, the entire thread will disappear, so tread lightly. I speak from experience.

[ApS]

It's so weird how even the UK is in on the conspiracy since, well, they only approved it 10 days earlier with a much shorter evaluation process that was, in fact, criticized by many
The US was informed on November 4th, 2020.

CDC: 1918 Spanish Flu killed an estimated 675,000.

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, then a member of the coronavirus task force and now President Biden's top medical adviser, suggested that 100,000 to 200,000 might be the total number."

If this discussion becomes too political, the entire thread will disappear, so tread lightly. I speak from experience.
Maybe not "disappear", but may be "locked".

A member posts a picture of a U.S. postage stamp? Heaven forfend! :rolleye2:

[FlyingScot]

So according to you the Phizer Exec. is a conspiracy spreader. Come on man. :rolleye2:

No--I did not say that. I said that CK5 Truck, an anonymous person with 3 posts on this forum, is spreading conspiracies.

Specifically--he called a virus that's caused 500,000 American deaths mostly political, he attributed something to an unnamed Pfizer exec that no Pfizer exec with actual knowledge would say, and he asserted that masks don't matter because he only caught COVID-19 once.

It's funny that a veteran poster such as yourself would assume that a newbie's post on a hot topic would be accurate. I could see accepting or rejecting something more quickly from another veteran based on that person's previous posts. But a new name on an anonymous forum...?

[DEJ]

My apology, I was not aware that the number of post's someone has makes them more credible than others. I also did not realize unity is a one way street. To each their own I guess.

[Kamper]

FWIW: I got a call on Friday to move my date from April 3, to yesterday, February 27. The later date was the earliest available (within 50 miles) at the time. I suspected and had it confirmed at the 'shooting gallery' that the drugstore location had only been finalized and stocked that week and the NH vaccination program was scrambling to fill the newly available slots.

If you are in a similar situation you may get a call also. If you haven't gotten a call yet you might want to call 211/social services to inquire about moving up your shot and let them know you may be available on short notice to go to a new vaccination site if one opens up near you.

Good luck!

[Newbiesaukee]

Just to clarify certain aspects of the so-called "inside" Pfizer story.

The basic idea about this "inside" information is factually flawed.

Basically, in the U.S., physicians are able to write a prescription for any medication which has been approved for any use. I can legally write a prescription for, example, hydroxychloroquine to treat toenail fungus and the pharmacist will fill it. Actually, writing a prescription does not require a diagnosis and the pharmacist will fill it. So the emphasis on the diagnosis of "upper respiratory infection" vs. Covid makes no sense on its surface and this seems to be the key to the poster's discussion. I admit to not really understanding his point.

Now, writing a prescription for hydroxychloroquine would open me up for malpractice suits, refusal of the insurance company to pay for; and any number of penalties...but not in anyway that would resemble what the poster wrote.

Certainly, I see no distinction in writing the diagnosis of Covid vs "upper respiratory infection" in any way that makes any medical; or, for that matter, any political sense. I don't understand how this would effect Pfizer in any practical way.

It's unfortunate that this helpful thread has been hijacked.

[FlyingScot]

My apology, I was not aware that the number of post's someone has makes them more credible than others. I also did not realize unity is a one way street. To each their own I guess.

A person's previous posts are critical to their credibility and understanding their bias.

If I post something, just for example, it's likely to have a liberal to moderate slant, often based on something I read in the NY Times, and likely to be true.

Similarly, if we take Garysanfran as another example, it's likely to have a conservative slant, often based on something he read in the WSJ or Forbes, and also likely to be true.

People such as Gary, me, Think, Sue, ishoot, Maxum, Newbiesaukee...all appreciate that we are leaving long electronic trails. This enables others to evaluate their posts and credibility over time

[gravy boat]

Understanding their bias? Yes.

Critical to their credibility? Negative.

This is social media. More posts do not prove someone credible on any subject or in general.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Understanding their bias? Yes.

Critical to their credibility? Negative.

This is social media. More posts do not prove someone credible on any subject or in general.

I agree with you that “more posts don’t necessarily prove someone credible on any subject” , but over time, you can get the gist of a poster’s leanings, whether conservative or liberal, and this can be helpful as you determine for yourself the credibility of position (s) they have taken. Anyhow, that’s how I interpreted Flying’s latest post.

[ApS]

A person's previous posts are critical to their credibility and understanding their bias.

If I post something, just for example, it's likely to have a liberal to moderate slant, often based on something I read in the NY Times, and likely to be true.

Similarly, if we take Garysanfran as another example, it's likely to have a conservative slant, often based on something he read in the WSJ or Forbes, and also likely to be true.

People such as Gary, me, Think, Sue, ishoot, Maxum, Newbiesaukee...all appreciate that we are leaving long electronic trails. This enables others to evaluate their posts and credibility over time

1) While "leaving long electronic trails", some don't know what country has taken control of Forbes! :eek:

2) Sky News' accounts of U.S. vaccinations strongarm U.S. "Pablum": :rolleye2:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6232939369001?id=539437

[Descant]

When DES lets too much water out of the lake and I can't use my dock is that C or L? I don't really care. I'm just upset that they, a government agency, took x weeks out of my boating season.

When I go to Town Meeting, I see a lot of friends, some Dems, some Republicans. LOTS of undeclared. We all vote on what we think is best for the town. (Budget, tax rate) We all know what we think, independently. If you listen to Bret Baer or David Muir and vote accordingly, you aren't C or L, you're an idiot. Double that if your philosophy comes from a "national" newspaper, (NYT, LA times) exception granted to the Christian Science Monitor.
Getting honest information these days is a lot harder than it was a few years ago, pre-internet, pre 24 hour cable news, which is opinion pretending to be news.
For me, the Winnipesaukee Forum should be about peeing in Braun Bay and Milfoil in Back Bay, not conservative or liberal national politics.

[DEJ]

if you listen to bret baer or david muir and vote accordingly, you aren't c or l, you're an idiot. Double that if your philosophy comes from a "national" newspaper, (nyt, la times) exception granted to the christian science monitor.
For me, the winnipesaukee forum should be about peeing in braun bay and milfoil in back bay, not conservative or liberal national politics.

bravo!!!!!

[TiltonBB]

The warm and fuzzy feeling should come with your ability to get your second shot.

In a perfect world, it would be better, in my personal non-professional opinion, if you could make other airport arrangements for your guest.

You’ve given yourself a very tight time window. Stuff happens. Get your shot,go home and get on with your life.

It's all good! I had the second shot yesterday at noon and picked up my guest at the airport. No ill effects, nothing. Up early this morning and drinking coffee. Feeling great!

However, out of an abundance of caution, I skipped going to the gym and working out yesterday. (I figured, I haven's gone for 30 years, why start now) :):D:laugh: