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chasedawg
12-05-2019, 02:47 PM
I have been informed that there is a new buyer for the Pier 19 store. This one seems legit. The sale may be pending waiting for permitting from Tuftonboro Plannng Board and other approvals.
As I was told, there was a meeting Monday with town officials. The person that informed me was at the meeting.
The new owners are going to renovate it bring it up to current standards. It will operate as a convenient store plus other creative ideas. Their thinking is to have it remain open year round.
If this comes to fruition let's welcome the new owners and wish them great success.
thinkxingu
12-05-2019, 02:57 PM
I have been informed that there is a new buyer for the Pier 19 store. This one seems legit. The sale may be pending waiting for permitting from Tuftonboro Plannng Board and other approvals.
As I was told, there was a meeting Monday with town officials. The person that informed me was at the meeting.
The new owners are going to renovate it bring it up to current standards. It will operate as a convenient store plus other creative ideas. Their thinking is to have it remain open year round.
If this comes to fruition let's welcome the new owners and wish them great success.This would be AWESOME! I'd have a (much) closer place to grab ice cream (on my new jetski)!
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MAXUM
12-05-2019, 03:26 PM
Must be some VERY creative ideas because I cannot see just a convenience store alone overcoming a seven figure acquisition cost, never mind the renovations... at least in this century.
The Real BigGuy
12-05-2019, 03:27 PM
Great news!! I’ve really missed it.
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Sue Doe-Nym
12-05-2019, 03:29 PM
I have been informed that there is a new buyer for the Pier 19 store. This one seems legit. The sale may be pending waiting for permitting from Tuftonboro Plannng Board and other approvals.
As I was told, there was a meeting Monday with town officials. The person that informed me was at the meeting.
The new owners are going to renovate it bring it up to current standards. It will operate as a convenient store plus other creative ideas. Their thinking is to have it remain open year round.
If this comes to fruition let's welcome the new owners and wish them great success.
That would be wonderful for those living in that area, but it’s a tough go, trying to make the numbers work for a year-round business. Hopefully, they have done their homework realistically, without stars in their eyes. They will certainly be welcome there. 🤞🤞🤞
Descant
12-05-2019, 04:52 PM
Baskin-Robbins AND KFC! What could be better?
I have been informed that there is a new buyer for the Pier 19 store. This one seems legit. The sale may be pending waiting for permitting from Tuftonboro Plannng Board and other approvals.
As I was told, there was a meeting Monday with town officials. The person that informed me was at the meeting.
The new owners are going to renovate it bring it up to current standards. It will operate as a convenient store plus other creative ideas. Their thinking is to have it remain open year round.
If this comes to fruition let's welcome the new owners and wish them great success.
I heard about the store too and was very happy. We were thinking maybe they could do something with snowmobilers in the winter-a stopping place? Would love to see it succeed.
chasedawg
12-05-2019, 08:10 PM
Baskin-Robbins AND KFC! What could be better?
Let's help the potential new owners be successful and suggest to them what you would like to see the store offer that would be to your liking. Many here on the forum and the community want them to succeed.
OK let's hear what would work for you to go to their store to purchase your favorite item to come back again.
Open forum.....suggestions Let them know!
TiltonBB
12-05-2019, 08:15 PM
Baskin-Robbins AND KFC! What could be better?
OK let's hear what would work for you to go to their store to purchase your favorite item to come back again.
Open forum.....suggestions Let them know!
I would like to buy a winning lottery ticket! That would keep me coming back!
thinkxingu
12-05-2019, 08:44 PM
I'd like ice cream and a few covered picnic tables. I also think a few benches by the docks would be keen.
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TheTimeTraveler
12-05-2019, 08:49 PM
How about Gasoline; not only for boats but also for cars.
Also, a public restroom would be a nice thing where one can wash their hands!
chasedawg
12-05-2019, 09:41 PM
I'd like ice cream and a few covered picnic tables. I also think a few benches by the docks would be keen.
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It might not be widely know beyond Tuftonboro but the town is attempting to get permitting to expand the public Union Wharf pier where the fire boat is docked. From what I understand the proposal and request from the state is to enlarge the wharf and make it more conducive to tie up to the wharf which would would make it easier to tie up even in shallow water areas. Permitting will not come easy. It is all about State controlled waters and grandfathering.
Looking for support to best approach this state project. It would benefit the store; the store customers; general public who launch at the ramp and the town.
chasedawg
12-05-2019, 09:47 PM
How about Gasoline; not only for boats but also for cars.
Also, a public restroom would be a nice thing where one can wash their hands!
Great suggestions. Marine Patrol would love that as well. Keep them coming!
Roy_Hobbs
12-05-2019, 11:05 PM
Pizza / any good takeout food would be great. If I can put reality aside, a rooftop deck with a small bar would be brilliant
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thinkxingu
12-06-2019, 03:37 AM
Pizza / any good takeout food would be great. If I can put reality aside, a rooftop deck with a small bar would be brilliant
Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=92687)GREAT idea, and a takeout runner, so docking isn't too much of an issue--remember, there are only a few spots there.
As I think about this, if they could do a Town Docks kinda thing AND find a way to capitalize on the winter snowmobiler thing, they might be able to do very well. There are some restrictions with the property, though, right? I just hope the Pier 19 association is flexible--I gotta think this would be a good thing for them (though it'll increase traffic...)
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Great suggestions. Marine Patrol would love that as well. Keep them coming!
I think the public restroom was a problem with having any business needing that. The land is very low and the septic is limited- rumor anyway. It seems they can do a lot with septic systems today, but I don't know.
ishoot308
12-06-2019, 06:56 AM
In my opinion, in order for that store to survive, gas pumps would be a must. By doing this, it would certainly bring in more customers including snowmobiles and ice fishermen during the winter. While the profit margins on gas are tight, getting people into the store to buy other things would be beneficial.
I wish them well!
Dan
Peter
12-06-2019, 08:34 AM
I heard the same background about a possible new buyer. Hopefully everything proceeds to a new store opening. Having gone to the store since I was a kid for ice cream, worms and other important summer time needs, I hope it works out. Owning a dock spot there too, makes it more convenient to pick up a few last minute items before heading home.
Since a new gas tank was installed just before they closed, I think it would be a no brainer to start up selling gas again. Tough to think how they can have a profitable business all year round but I am glad there is someone interested.
Since a new gas tank was installed just before they closed, I think it would be a no brainer to start up selling gas again. Tough to think how they can have a profitable business all year round but I am glad there is someone interested.
FYI, I believe the gas tank was repaired, not replaced with a new one.
chasedawg
12-06-2019, 07:52 PM
FYI, I believe the gas tank was repaired, not replaced with a new one.
That is correct. The gas tank was not replaced. Just the lines to the tank.
chasedawg
12-06-2019, 08:41 PM
How about Gasoline; not only for boats but also for cars.
Also, a public restroom would be a nice thing where one can wash their hands!
The new owner of the Pier 19 store may not be interested in buying the gas docks. So what becomes of them?
Cobalt 25
12-06-2019, 11:37 PM
home made chocolate chip cookies
Best of luck to the new owners!
TheTimeTraveler
12-07-2019, 01:08 AM
The new owner of the Pier 19 store may not be interested in buying the gas docks. So what becomes of them?
Interesting question..... My guess is that the "could" be sold off to a third party who would then try to make a go of just selling seasonal boat gas, but it's highly unlikely that anyone would want to buy that (not enough income).
However, it is a small draw to get people to come into the store, so it's actually best if the store owner keeps control of the gas dock and continues selling gas.
If the store doesn't want to continue with the gas dock then I would guess at some point the town (or state) would require the removal of the pump and tank in an effort to eliminate any potential lake pollution issues from the abandoned equipment.
bobkatfly
12-12-2019, 10:32 AM
I have been informed that there is a new buyer for the Pier 19 store. This one seems legit. The sale may be pending waiting for permitting from Tuftonboro Plannng Board and other approvals.
As I was told, there was a meeting Monday with town officials. The person that informed me was at the meeting.
The new owners are going to renovate it bring it up to current standards. It will operate as a convenient store plus other creative ideas. Their thinking is to have it remain open year round.
If this comes to fruition let's welcome the new owners and wish them great success.
I live fairly close to 19 mile bay and drive by the vacant building almost everyday. Like others, I would love to see it operating again (so would my granddaughter:banana:). Can't help but wonder if it's tied in someway to the Planning board subdivision approval of Farm Island in October. Are the developers involved or maybe someone with a little vision of increased traffic in the future?
The prospective buyers of the store are not affiliated with the people purchasing Farm Island.
The Real BigGuy
12-12-2019, 12:07 PM
If the new owners choose not to reopen the gas dock, I wonder if they retain the responsibility to maintain the insurances on the tank & pumps?
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The store and gas pump are owned by two different groups of people. I do not know why they did this but that is the scoop.
TheTimeTraveler
12-12-2019, 01:20 PM
If the new owners choose not to reopen the gas dock, I wonder if they retain the responsibility to maintain the insurances on the tank & pumps?
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Insurance on equipment not being utilized doesn't make a lot of sense. As such
my guess is that the tank and pumps would be 100% removed if they elect to no longer pursue the gasoline part of the business.
Years ago when the store on Moultonborough Neck became JoJo’s, one of the first things the owner did was to hire a fantastic butcher. Folks along the neck bought their meats there as the quality was high. Didn’t mind paying higher prices. I hope the new owners can find such a niche and that folks in the area will support the store through the winter.
I’m assuming gas service will be restored and that a deal will be struck with the association to allow store docking along the side dock as in the past.
I for one will welcome an opening of a “new” store there.
JTA, the woman who wants to purchase the store wants nothing to do with the gas dock or the association docks. We will have to wait and see what her plans are.
Lotta issues there with this property. Not running the gas docks would be a fatal error in my opinion. If there was good profit to be made there it would have sold long ago. I’d love to see it open since I live right there but I’m not doing cartwheels thinking it’s a go or it it survives long if it opens .
The Real BigGuy
12-13-2019, 09:53 AM
JTA, the woman who wants to purchase the store wants nothing to do with the gas dock or the association docks. We will have to wait and see what her plans are.
Seems strange! Sounds like “boat traffic” isn’t a big part of he plans. On the other hand, if her business plan is successful without boaters, adding it at a later date will only be a plus.
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chasedawg
12-13-2019, 04:49 PM
JTA, the woman who wants to purchase the store wants nothing to do with the gas dock or the association docks. We will have to wait and see what her plans are.
We should find out what are her plans are for the store this week.
Wifi-1
12-14-2019, 04:57 AM
This thread seems to be loaded with: "I know something you don't know"
thinkxingu
12-14-2019, 07:06 AM
*singing* "All I want for Christmas is...19 Mile Bay to have an ice cream stand!"
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chasedawg
12-14-2019, 08:29 AM
*singing* "All I want for Christmas is...19 Mile Bay to have an ice cream stand!"
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The ice cream stand may turn into a boutique. We shall hear more of the new owners plan this coming Thursday when she presents her application to the Tuftonboro Planning board.
thinkxingu
12-14-2019, 09:02 AM
The ice cream stand may turn into a boutique. We shall hear more of the new owners plan this coming Thursday when she presents her application to the Tuftonboro Planning board."Boutique"?
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Descant
12-14-2019, 11:25 AM
I hope "Boutique" is French for Hagen Daaz.
thinkxingu
12-14-2019, 11:34 AM
I hope "Boutique" is French for Hagen Daaz.Right?! Though I don't need no foofy ice cream, just gimme some good ol' Candy Bar Explosion!
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chasedawg
12-17-2019, 07:51 AM
We should find out what are her plans are for the store this week.
Just found out that the Tuftonboro Planning Board meeting to review the Pier 19 store has been rescheduled until January 2, 2020. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend. Talking to a friend of mine who sat next to the possible new owner said she is going to bring the store back and add a couple of twists. One would be a section of the store would have an area where local folk could bring their craft items in to sell. And the other being a boutique, but not a beauty parlor.
I would expect the Planing Board would approve the application unless there was a request to increase or change the septic system. Tuftonboro officials want the store open and become profitable.
skprbob
12-17-2019, 03:20 PM
The Tuftonboro town web site says that the PB meeting is still this Thursday, 19 Dec. Anyone know for sure?
chasedawg
12-17-2019, 03:35 PM
The Tuftonboro town web site says that the PB meeting is still this Thursday, 19 Dec. Anyone know for sure?
I will call the admin for the Planning board and let you know.
skprbob
12-17-2019, 06:54 PM
Phone call to the Tuftonboro town clerk - confirms the meeting has indeed been moved to 2 January, 7:00 PM. The town's web site was incorrect and will be updated ASAP.
chasedawg
12-20-2019, 09:35 PM
Just found out that the Tuftonboro Planning Board meeting to review the Pier 19 store has been rescheduled until January 2, 2020. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend. Talking to a friend of mine who sat next to the possible new owner said she is going to bring the store back and add a couple of twists. One would be a section of the store would have an area where local folk could bring their craft items in to sell. And the other being a boutique, but not a beauty parlor.
I would expect the Planing Board would approve the application unless there was a request to increase or change the septic system. Tuftonboro officials want the store open and become profitable.
I was fortunate to spend some time with one of the Tuftonboro ZBA board members. I was told the "hopefully" new owner stated that the store would open like it was before including opening the gas docks that has two slips. The take out window including ice cream"Sunday Explosions" in some fashion would be offered including other good items to eat. Another idea was to have sitting inside with windows providing a great view out onto the lake.
The whole store footprint would be utilized again. In the back of the store would be for outside vendors to sell items. I think that is a great idea because we have many local folks and beyond who sell items they make to sell on the internet and now locally at one spot. She is also trying to come up with other ideas that benefit all in the community and the store. So your ideas again are welcome I would think.
There was a question from the ZBA about hiring help. That was not a concern for her so she claimed. She said that many family members were willing to help.
Now why did I put in quotes:" Hopefully" new owner. One of the Tuftonboro local residents said to me that he drove past the store and the for sale sign was still up. It didn't say or have any kind of wording that "under agreement". If you go on the listing web site it still is listing as For Sale and does say anything about under agreement. So what is it...still for sale....or waiting for terms of agreement yet to be signed. All that was told me could still change. We shall see...
That sounds great. I think it will pass and I hope she succeeds. As far as the under agreement signs, I notice quite often they never put those up, it just depends. I don't think that means anything. However, in this case, maybe Frank wants to keep it out there in case this doesn't materialize.
thinkxingu
12-21-2019, 06:16 AM
About the help, thing: I've mentioned it before, but I would think connecting with the local high school would be a great way to secure help year-round. A bunch of businesses in the towns I live and work rely on late high school/college students for year-round/summer employment.
The local crafts idea is a solid one, especially if they could come up with a cool "series" like the iBoat thing a couple years ago or the 4K Reclaimed Purpose thing (https://www.facebook.com/ReclaimedPurposeNH/). Making bank!
Finally, and I think I mentioned it above, it would be nice to have some shade if the ice cream/food is on the lake side. That area gets baked in the sun.
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It might be hard for her to hire high school kids. You have to be very careful how many hours you give them and what they do.
TiltonBB
12-21-2019, 08:47 AM
A local business was using high school kids after school to clean and wax boats. The state cited them because the kids were using electric buffers and they are not allowed to "operate machinery".
Your tax dollars at work!:look:
thinkxingu
12-21-2019, 08:47 AM
It might be hard for her to hire high school kids. You have to be very careful how many hours you give them and what they do.Right, but a mix of juniors and seniors would be perfect for checkers, ice cream servers, dock attendants. Maybe even teachers?! [emoji6]
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Right, but a mix of juniors and seniors would be perfect for checkers, ice cream servers, dock attendants. Maybe even teachers?! [emoji6]
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Yes in the summer the hours aren't as much of an issue.
MAXUM
12-21-2019, 11:02 AM
A local business was using high school kids after school to clean and wax boats. The state cited them because the kids were using electric buffers and they are not allowed to "operate machinery".
Your tax dollars at work!:look:
Are you freaking kidding?!?
So does that mean you can't employ the kid down the street to cut your grass either?
I would expect that kind of stupidity in Mass but not NH.
TheTimeTraveler
12-21-2019, 11:42 AM
Are you freaking kidding?!?
So does that mean you can't employ the kid down the street to cut your grass either?
I would expect that kind of stupidity in Mass but not NH.
Sadly that is true. For example kids under 16 can't operate slicers in the Deli Section, nor can they handle a knife to cut meats.
I think it has to do with a lot of "Federal" type regulations that were set up in the depression era (to enable adults to have the jobs) as well as safety issues.
These type of laws and regulations are all over the nation (not unique to NH or MA).
Are you freaking kidding?!?
So does that mean you can't employ the kid down the street to cut your grass either?
I would expect that kind of stupidity in Mass but not NH.
Merry Christmas from MA despite the rude comment!
The Real BigGuy
12-24-2019, 06:42 PM
Are you freaking kidding?!?
So does that mean you can't employ the kid down the street to cut your grass either?
I would expect that kind of stupidity in Mass but not NH.
Wow, and a Merry Christmas to you too. I wonder why some people stereotype people from NH.
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MAXUM
12-24-2019, 08:15 PM
If y'all want to take that comment personally I guess go for it, however it was merely pointing out that MA tends to set the bar for nanny state laws is all comparatively speaking.
Merry Christmas to all ;)
garysanfran
12-24-2019, 09:29 PM
100 years from now?
Although, I'm more worried about the next 20.:eek:
Did anyone attend the planning board meeting last night regarding the application to open the store?
skprbob
01-03-2020, 01:56 PM
Planning board has approved the plan. There are still some relatively minor items involving the state, but they are evidently not an issue. The town seems very happy.
thinkxingu
01-03-2020, 02:54 PM
Any new details on what will be there?!
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Any new details on what will be there?!
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Sell groceries/convenience items, takeout food, ice cream, sell gasoline. repurpose a portion of interior space into four retail kiosks.
The Real BigGuy
01-04-2020, 08:18 AM
Happy, Happy, Happy! I hope we all patronize the store when it opens. I will be there every morning for coffee & the paper as well as buying all my boat gas there. Hope Spider Web sells fresh veggies at one of the kiosks
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bobkatfly
01-04-2020, 09:49 AM
Sell groceries/convenience items, takeout food, ice cream, sell gasoline. repurpose a portion of interior space into four retail kiosks.
So, same as before but with the addition of the kiosks?
So, same as before but with the addition of the kiosks?
What I posted was their statement on their letter of intent. Time will tell but yes it sounds similar to what was/is there now.
Janet
01-04-2020, 08:54 PM
Yay. Afternoon ice cream after a day on the boat!!!!🍦😀
Glad it reopens. Not to be negative but hope it survives. Nothing else has. They need to keep gas dock open year round to attract snowmobiles and ice fisherman. I’d put a bait tank somewhere and keep it full of shiners all winter long. Hot food and beer for the ice fisherman.
knowit
01-07-2020, 10:01 AM
I wish Skelly’s would open a second location there! Love Skelly’s!
Maxfield Real Estate had a picture on Facebook with the new owners.
thinkxingu
01-07-2020, 02:44 PM
Maxfield Real Estate had a picture on Facebook with the new owners.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3971414579551359&substory_index=0&id=132950130064509&sfnsn=mo
Gooo Pier 19!!!
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hemlock
01-07-2020, 06:06 PM
Congratulations to the new owners.
I hope they do well in their venture.
I understand also that separately the Town of Tuftonboro is in process of getting permitting for repairs of Union Wharf. Hopefully they are farsighted enough to do some dredging on the North side of the wharf which is really shallow. The Town fireboat and Fish and Games big boat use up a lot of space on the south side.
Also does anyone know if Pier 19 condos will allow the store to use the dock spaces that they used to use?
Janet
01-08-2020, 10:37 AM
I wish Skelly’s would open a second location there! Love Skelly’s!
Probably better that Skelly's doesn't have a second location that could be reached by boat. We'd all be bigger than we are now!!!!:laugh:
Congratulations to the new owners.
I hope they do well in their venture.
I understand also that separately the Town of Tuftonboro is in process of getting permitting for repairs of Union Wharf. Hopefully they are farsighted enough to do some dredging on the North side of the wharf which is really shallow. The Town fireboat and Fish and Games big boat use up a lot of space on the south side.
Also does anyone know if Pier 19 condos will allow the store to use the dock spaces that they used to use?
From what I gather, I don’t believe the Pier 19 dock owners will go back to opening up the north side of their dockage for store patrons. The gated system allows them to secure their boats, where as previously anyone could have access. I guess there have been problems of thievery in the past. .
CateP
01-09-2020, 08:34 AM
I would love to sell my water color paintings and prints there. Who can I contact?
I also think the store should be a traditional grocery store so people in that area don’t have to go all the way to Wolfeboro or Ossipee for basic needs. Sell products from local farms as much as possible.
LIforrelaxin
01-09-2020, 08:57 AM
From what I gather, I don’t believe the Pier 19 dock owners will go back to opening up the north side of their dockage for store patrons. The gated system allows them to secure their boats, where as previously anyone could have access. I guess there have been problems of thievery in the past. .
Time will tell on this. I don't think that thievery was all that much of an issue. I think that when the store closed, the yacht club took measure to ensure that the dock space didn't become a gathering point, and a means of free public dockage.... I would look for them to make some-type of financial arrangement with the new owners, and likely allow the docks to be used.
TheTimeTraveler
01-09-2020, 09:01 AM
I would love to sell my water color paintings and prints there. Who can I contact?
I also think the store should be a traditional grocery store so people in that area don’t have to go all the way to Wolfeboro or Ossipee for basic needs. Sell products from local farms as much as possible.
I would suggest you call the Tuftonboro Town Hall and speak with someone in the Planning Board.
The approval of the new owners is a public record so I would think they would provide it to you.
Another source would be the Real Estate Brokerage who sold the property. They likely want to see this deal succeed so they may be willing to steer you in the right direction. I believe it was Maxfield Real Estate.
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I would love to sell my water color paintings and prints there. Who can I contact?
I also think the store should be a traditional grocery store so people in that area don’t have to go all the way to Wolfeboro or Ossipee for basic needs. Sell products from local farms as much as possible.
It sounds like you would be a perfect fit for what she wants to do.
skprbob
01-09-2020, 10:51 PM
This afternoon, Waste Management placed a large dumpster at the rear loading dock. Looks like work is starting.
JEEPONLY
01-10-2020, 12:28 AM
This afternoon, Waste Management placed a large dumpster at the rear loading dock. Looks like work is starting.
If you've only read the last 5-6 posts, you might ask yourself if Cate's paintings/prints are being moved in/moved out!
Hope the whole store thing works out!
skprbob
01-12-2020, 10:31 PM
Friday, had a nice meeting and chat with the new owner. Apparently, the old owners left a lot of the equipment in pretty sad shape and a lot of it will need to be replaced - display racks and some of the refrigeration and freezer units. Also left some merchandise, now long past any expiration dates. There's lots to clean up to do. Stay tuned.
I would love to sell my water color paintings and prints there. Who can I contact?
I also think the store should be a traditional grocery store so people in that area don’t have to go all the way to Wolfeboro or Ossipee for basic needs. Sell products from local farms as much as possible.
The Tuftonboro Library encourages month-long displays--nicely framed.
TheTimeTraveler
03-18-2020, 12:33 PM
It's been a few months since anyone has discussed the goings on with the new ownership of Pier 19.
Does anyone see any activity or renovations currently taking place when they drive by?
Has there been any talk of an actual opening date?
They are working on renovations basically 7 days a week. They have a ways to go.
With what is going on now in the Country as a result of the virus makes opening a business scary. Let’s hope these folks can endure this and survive it. I wish them well as I’m sure they are excited.
thinkxingu
05-14-2020, 06:26 PM
Any updates on the store?! My daughter is asking for ice cream...on the jetski this weekend!
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bobkatfly
05-15-2020, 06:36 AM
Any updates on the store?! My daughter is asking for ice cream...on the jetski this weekend!
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New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.
thinkxingu
05-15-2020, 06:39 AM
New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.Thanks, friend!
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I saw a post on Facebook that Pier 19 is now selling gas again, welcome back!
WinniGas even received a price report.
If anyone knows the owner/operator of the Fuel dock, please have them contact WinniGas.com to update the details about the fuel dock, things like phone number, hours of operation, additive (if any), web page, etc. would be very helpful.
bobkatfly
05-26-2020, 02:16 PM
New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.
So, I've been by the store a number of times and haven't seen anyone outside. Seems to be primarily inside work. Drove by slow today and from what I saw through the windows, they seem far away from being finished. Also, the rooftop AC units are still on the ground in crates. Could be mid to late summer unless they open the outside service window for limited (ice cream) items. With the gas pumps open, that would make sense so as to give us all some hope while they finish. Next time I'm by I'll try talking to the pump attendant although I'm sure he's been asked already and maybe sworn to secrecy.
Bmcgov78
05-26-2020, 06:54 PM
I spoke to the young guy at the gas pumps. He was very nice and is the Son of the new owner. Their intentions were to be open this past weekend but construction delays were out of their control. They are intending on being open in the next few weeks. I wish them good luck and I am pumped up for the re-opening.
The way they are working, it should be a couple of weeks, not months.
chasedawg
05-29-2020, 09:31 PM
I saw a post on Facebook that Pier 19 is now selling gas again, welcome back!
WinniGas even received a price report.
If anyone knows the owner/operator of the Fuel dock, please have them contact WinniGas.com to update the details about the fuel dock, things like phone number, hours of operation, additive (if any), web page, etc. would be very helpful.
I talked to Moe at the gas docks. Owners son. I told him to contact you on the forum. He found your thread. Not sure if he was able to post.
I should let them speak for themselves. This is what he told me. He is the gas attendant. He arrives at 8:00 AM and is at the gas dock until 6:00 everyday. I saw the price per gallon was $2.955 including Valtec additive.
I said looks like your parents have a long way to go. He said no not really we should be good in a couple of weeks. I will update when I get more information. Moe did say he gave Rich the information today.
I made it a point to drive there this past weekend and to stop by and speak with Moe.
I let him know how to contact me and invited him to use WinniGas.com to keep his price updated for everyone to see.
They don't have an active phone, email or website yet, when they are active, I'll update their listing when the info is sent to me.
Thanks
Bmcgov78
06-12-2020, 06:49 AM
Any update on opening?
chasedawg
06-13-2020, 01:36 PM
Any update on opening?
I talked to Mahnaz the store owner and asked if she thought they would be open by the 4th of July. She rolled her eyes and said "I hope so"! They still have a long way to go. Large Air conditioning units still crated up and laying in the back parking lot. She did say they are trying to open the ice cream and snack bar take out window hopefully before the 4th.
yogi berra
06-17-2020, 04:06 PM
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.
Great first post without any factual data. The association is not opposed to the store. The owner of the store has not been sued. The locked gates have been there for 4 years, long before the new owners purchased the store. The store is currently not open due to the new owners inability to get it ready to open, nothing to do with the dock owners. The president is not someone named Hill and the association is well aware of what is going on, unlike yourself.
In the future if you want to participate in this discussion please get your facts straight.
chasedawg
06-17-2020, 09:33 PM
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.
How and where did you get this kind of information?? All of your claims are not at all factual. You are creating an issue on your own and on the forum that will not help the store succeed. Why are you posting this?
JEEPONLY
06-18-2020, 12:56 PM
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.
Your post (info/typing) makes the REAL Yogi sound like a Phd (which, maybe, he did anyway)! :eek:
Great first post without any factual data. The association is not opposed to the store. The owner of the store has not been sued. The locked gates have been there for 4 years, long before the new owners purchased the store. The store is currently not open due to the new owners inability to get it ready to open, nothing to do with the dock owners. The president is not someone named Hill and the association is well aware of what is going on, unlike yourself.
In the future if you want to participate in this discussion please get your facts straight.
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020
Possibly the prior owner but really a stretch to see this against the current owner. Guy has spent a ton of money on the place. Hope he makes it best wishes for a good start. From the sound of it he hopes to open next weekend in some capacity.
FlyingScot
06-21-2020, 08:03 PM
To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020
There was a court date on 6/17/2020, it had nothing to do with the association suing the store owners. The facts are differences between them are being worked out amicably. Please do not spread rumors. Thank you.
thinkxingu
06-22-2020, 05:03 AM
So "two" new members posting questionable, inflammatory, posts in a few days.
Is it time to institute a waiting period to post or what?!
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MBNeckguy
06-22-2020, 06:33 AM
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thinkxingu
06-22-2020, 07:49 AM
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lakewinnie
06-22-2020, 07:50 AM
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.
Yogi Berra: Besides all that, Jackie Robinson was safe at home plate!
To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.
I saw this as well. Not sure what that is about but there was an accident in that area a couple weeks ago and with the store getting ready to open wondering if they are putting in flashing lights or something? People coming down that hill from 20 Mile Bay area are often well over the speed limit by the time hit the bottom of that hill.
Just Wonderin
06-22-2020, 07:55 PM
A crosswalk is currently being considered. Maybe that's what you saw. A few years ago, the Boat Owners Association tried to get a crosswalk approved for the safety of all who crossed the road. It got down to the final stages but the vote to approve maintaining the crosswalk did not pass at the town meeting. The crosswalk is now back on the table for consideration with the full support of the boat owners and area merchants.
chasedawg
06-22-2020, 09:25 PM
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020
Oh great. Here we go again. Enough. If you feel it is necessary for you to post negative comments about the store please identify your source. Why are these first posters posting this stuff? Yes there was a hearing to make sure the parties were able to communicate any differences.
I originally started this post back sometime early 2020 to help promote the store and it's success. If one would go back and read some posts I asked all of you what would you suggest to the new store owners what would you like to see them do that would make you keep coming back. There were some great ideas.
I have been a charter member of Pier 19 condo Association. This has turned into potential damaging and negative posts from these first timer posters that can only hurt the stores success. Who and where is this coming from? It seems these posters are trying to cause issues that are not helping the stores success. The new owner told me she have never owned or operated a store no less a grocery store. She is well aware of the store past history but yet she has invested a great deal of money to make the store look great again.
Please stop this nonsense. I hope the store will open soon.
chasedawg
06-22-2020, 10:04 PM
To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.
Why are people putting a negative spin on all that is going with the store trying to open. And hopefully soon.
DOT is out surveying for a potential CROSSWALK.
FlyingScot
06-23-2020, 10:26 AM
Why are people putting a negative spin on all that is going with the store trying to open. And hopefully soon.
DOT is out surveying for a potential CROSSWALK.
I did not mean for my post to be a negative spin, and I don't read it that way now either. Nor do I think any of these posts will hurt sales at Pier 19. Nobody has said that the owner's done anything wrong or that the store is in anyway a problem. I wish the best for the new owner, and I will be there to shop soon after opening :)
chasedawg
06-23-2020, 10:46 AM
I did not mean for my post to be a negative spin, and I don't read it that way now either. Nor do I think any of these posts will hurt sales at Pier 19. Nobody has said that the owner's done anything wrong or that the store is in anyway a problem. I wish the best for the new owner, and I will be there to shop soon after opening :)
FlyingScot. No I didn't think your post was negative at all. I thought it was helpful and supportive. It's others especially the first time posters. Someone is trying to cause unnecessary confusion. Not sure why.
We all are pulling for the store.
I am amongst those strongly rooting for the store. However, I am concerned about it’s prospects without access to the dock that all previous iterations of the store had. I know the dock is owned by the association and that they installed shark diving cage style doors on the dock to limit access and protect their boats. But with that door in place and no agreement on the use of the dock how will the business be able to survive?
I know the pier is open to the public but the space not taken up by the fire boat and other permanent fixtures on the dock is very limited.
And lastly, I realize there have been multiple first time commenters on this thread and that I will appear as one as well but I want to make it clear I have no connection to any parties involved. I’ve read the forum for years without ever feeling the urge to put my two cents in. But as an islander who misses a store close by that doesn’t require getting in a car, I’m interested to see how this plays out.
CowTimes
06-24-2020, 03:14 PM
I also hope that the store is highly successful. I hope that the new owners are able to have offerings that will attract the year-round business that the store probably needs (and that are missing in that area).
I think there were posts on the forum in the past of how the gates were installed because of theft from the boats of the dock owners. I certainly don’t begrudge them for doing what they needed to do to secure their boats since that entire dock is their private property. And that was obviously known when the new store owner bought. It’s just a shame the gates were even needed.
I believe there is a project for the town-owned pier to make improvements that would increase public access. This was raised at several Tuftonboro board of Selectmen meetings, but not sure where that currently stands, as they were having issues with the state and DES over the repairs/improvements.
thinkxingu
06-24-2020, 04:58 PM
I was there a couple weeks ago, and if I remember correctly the shark cage only kept one finger protected?
Also, docking to the wharf blows. I thought the whole one side of the dock opposite the wharf was public in the past?
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CowTimes
06-24-2020, 06:11 PM
I was there a couple weeks ago, and if I remember correctly the shark cage only kept one finger protected?
Also, docking to the wharf blows. I thought the whole one side of the dock opposite the wharf was public in the past?
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The gates are on both docks where the boat slips are. The association let the public use the dock opposite the wharf for many years, and we used it often coming from the island. That changed a few years ago when it apparently became an issue when, as often happens, a few bad apples spoiled it for the rest of us who would tie up there for a quick ice cream run.
Hopefully the town will improve the wharf, as it certainly needs improvement and it seems unlikely that the association would open their docks back up for the public to use given past experiences.
Hopefully they can figure it out. The north side of the wharf (fire boat/ epo boat are on south side) seems to get pretty shallow in August. They need to somehow dredge that side. If the intention to stay open year is true (hope it is) they need to figure out a way to get sleds and Atv’s up onto that gas dock. Lot of open water due to bubblers in winter.
I definitely don’t begrudge property owners for protecting their property. I just believe the current situation could set the store up for failure.
In years of going to the store by boat, I remember busy days on the lake resulting in crowded docks on the wharf and association side. And on those crowded days around ice cream time there were usually even boats waiting for dock space. Even with those busy days the store wasn’t able to make a go of it enough to keep the owners running the business. If you take half of the dock space away from the new owners who have invested a great deal of money into their new business I don’t see how they are able to succeed.
I don’t know about everyone else, I want the place to succeed but not enough to get in the car and drive there if I can’t find open, safe dock space. Hopefully some fair agreement can be reached with the association to open the shark cage.
LIforrelaxin
06-26-2020, 12:08 PM
I don’t know about everyone else, I want the place to succeed but not enough to get in the car and drive there if I can’t find open, safe dock space. Hopefully some fair agreement can be reached with the association to open the shark cage.
Correct, I would pass to many other places with similar services on my way there by car.....
I do believe they can make a go of it. When it was operated as a Grocery Store back in the 80s, they where open year around, and I don't think had to much problem. Obviously the made their profits in the summer....
When the next owner moved to a more convenience store model, is when it seem to struggle.
Time will tell how the current owners idea's will pan out....
chasedawg
06-26-2020, 04:28 PM
Yes the store is now open! Saw people wearing masks.
Any idea what the hours are?
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chasedawg
06-26-2020, 04:41 PM
Yes the store is now open! Saw people wearing masks.
The store is open so there will be many boats heading for 19 Mile Bay. Please be careful and watch your speed. Be especially careful and keep a sharp lookout for baby Loon chicks. They are in the Chases, Farm Island area and wander into the 19 Bay area.
chasedawg
06-26-2020, 04:55 PM
Any idea what the hours are?
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No I don't know the store hours. I have not been inside to ask. You might call them and then once you find out the hours post it for others to know.
Open at 7am, not sure when they close. Moderately stocked shelves with all the basics. There is a pizza area where you can get a whole pie or a slice, can't wait for some reviews.
The Male store owner was not wearing a mask, the female owner was. Kid at the register who I think is the son did not have a mask on as well as several patrons. Overall not bad, the mask issue will most likely limit my patronage, hope that is corrected.
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skprbob
06-27-2020, 10:39 AM
Pier 19 is open, market and gas dock. They're not 100% ready, but enough to open. Hours are 6:00 AM to 9:00 PM every day. Let's keep them busy!
Susie Cougar
06-27-2020, 10:52 AM
Pier 19 is open, market and gas dock. They're not 100% ready, but enough to open. Hours are 6:00 AM to 9:00 PM every day. Let's keep them busy!
I could understand if they don’t want to require their customers to wear a mask, but why would the owners not be wearing one? After waiting all this time to open up, why would they want to limit some customers?
camp guy
06-27-2020, 11:03 AM
If the new owners of Pier 19 take the time to read the Forum they will do themselves a huge favor. Over the years there have been many substantial posts about local businesses, be they restaurants, retail stores, lodging facilities, or other, and these posts go across the spectrum from negative to extremely positive. An owner can learn a lot from the Forum; and since Pier 19 is "new", now is the time for them to start being 'Forum-followers' - at the very least it can't hurt them, and more than likely it will help them.
I wish them the best of luck.
Sue Doe-Nym
06-27-2020, 02:03 PM
We took a quick trip to Wolfeboro, and the infamous store is open, snack window and all! Enjoy!
FlyingScot
06-27-2020, 02:51 PM
We took a quick trip to Wolfeboro, and the infamous store is open, snack window and all! Enjoy!
And no report on the ice cream? Get back there! :)
TheTimeTraveler
06-27-2020, 06:20 PM
The gas on opening day is priced at $3.09 per gallon.
They did not post the price as is required, but I checked out the pump in person.
marinewife
06-27-2020, 08:53 PM
We stopped in Pier 19 around 8:30 this morning. Very friendly son, wearing a mask, told us to walk around and see what they had out so far.
There's a Luca Coffee station, an ice cream station, general groceries, beer, wine, fruits, newspapers, batteries and a bunch of other things.
This will be our 'go-to' place for a quick fill in, 1 mile away from our home when we don't want to drive into Wolfeboro. I hope they do well.
Bmcgov78
06-28-2020, 08:21 AM
The owners seem to be great people. The store looks great. Although not fully stocked has everything you need. Ice Cream is great but only a limited amount of flavors at this early stage. Pizza is also good. Pretty good beer selection as well.Going by boat with only the use of the Town Dock may get crowded. Hopefully the association and the new owners can come to an understanding for use of the North side of their Dock once again.
bobkatfly
06-28-2020, 09:34 AM
Yeah. Looked like old times again. Parking lot full yesterday afternoon when I went by, boats in line to dock, people from the beach walking over, line at the window. I really didn't expect them to open until well into July but kudos to the new owners for proving me wrong.
Lakeflier
06-30-2020, 01:01 PM
Stopped in today. The store is very nice, normal staples available though not yet fully stocked. Personnel were wearing masks and very friendly. Ice cream and other food will be available at the window. There is a substantial kitchen. Nice to have a well stocked store accessible by boat for us islanders! We plan to support them. Especially ice cream...[emoji39]
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root1
06-30-2020, 02:18 PM
Chicken, man! How about the chicken? We gotta have chicken!
TheTimeTraveler
06-30-2020, 03:58 PM
Chicken, man! How about the chicken? We gotta have chicken!
Yes, they do have the chicken, but it's not cheap.
I bought two legs for $3.00 plus tax. I think $1.50 per leg to be quite high...
On the other hand, the chicken was good!
thinkxingu
06-30-2020, 04:39 PM
Yes, they do have the chicken, but it's not cheap.
I bought two legs for $3.00 plus tax. I think $1.50 per leg to be quite high...
On the other hand, the chicken was good!Can't buy a pack of gum for $1.50 today—sign me up for $1.50 chicken!
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Hillcountry
06-30-2020, 08:07 PM
Yes, they do have the chicken, but it's not cheap.
I bought two legs for $3.00 plus tax. I think $1.50 per leg to be quite high...
On the other hand, the chicken was good!
Is this FRIED CHICKEN? I am so jonesing for great fried chicken in the lakes region...fugettabout KFC...won’t go there.
Heard about a place in Concord (Wow Fried chicken) and it was good but a bit far to travel.
TheTimeTraveler
06-30-2020, 08:24 PM
Is this FRIED CHICKEN? I am so jonesing for great fried chicken in the lakes region...fugettabout KFC...won’t go there.
Heard about a place in Concord (Wow Fried chicken) and it was good but a bit far to travel.
Definitely fried. I think it may be Chester's Fried Chicken.....
Chester Fried Chicken. Big pieces from what I have heard.
jbolty
07-01-2020, 08:26 AM
Yes, they do have the chicken, but it's not cheap.
I bought two legs for $3.00 plus tax. I think $1.50 per leg to be quite high...
On the other hand, the chicken was good!
price seems fair. any bar has wings for $8-10 for a basket of 12 and that's about as much meat as a single leg
Hillcountry
07-01-2020, 11:00 AM
Definitely fried. I think it may be Chester's Fried Chicken.....
I believe Hannaford used to have that...don’t know why they stopped?
kenwoodardpe
07-21-2020, 07:05 PM
So gas is open but a bit of a boat parking problem?
thinkxingu
07-21-2020, 07:12 PM
So gas is open but a bit of a boat parking problem?Only the wharf is open to the public, and it blows to tie up to.
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hemlock
07-22-2020, 12:40 AM
The town of Tuftonboro is working with an engineer on permitting improvements to Union Wharf. Right now the North side of the wharf is mostly unusable due to gravel and rock making it too shallow for props. I understand that it is extremely difficult to get permitting to dredge it out. Does anyone know the status of the project?
So now that the season is pretty much done what are thoughts on the first summer for this store and management? Also are they planning on trying to stay open over the winter?
I am pretty much middle of the road with my opinion, not great, not terrible. Wish them success.
I never went in due to difficult boat docking. We did buy our boat gas there however. I do hope they are successful.
I understand the town wants to make some upgrades to the town dock but have been unable to jump through State permitting hoops.
thinkxingu
10-18-2020, 05:15 PM
Heard they had awesome pizza, but never tried it as the public docks blow. I did go once with the ski and had awesome ice cream, but it's just no fun trying to dock up on the wharf.
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knowit
10-18-2020, 07:44 PM
They are doing a great job. Great sandwiches and the pizza is very good. Try the breakfast sandwiches on focaccia rolls! I wish them the best. I hope they do well this winter.
Loub52
10-18-2020, 07:46 PM
True, that there are maybe 6? transient spots. Water depth is Ok too. I wouldn’t describe it as difficult place to dock, though I haven’t done so in the past two seasons.
thinkxingu
10-19-2020, 04:23 AM
True, that there are maybe 6? transient spots. Water depth is Ok too. I wouldn’t describe it as difficult place to dock, though I haven’t done so in the past two seasons.Not difficult so much as punitive—the few times I needed to dock on the wharf finger (the public used to be able to use one of the inside, regular docks) it was impossible to use bumpers to keep the boat and ski from rubbing hard against the oversized pylons and/or concrete. They also have steel cables wrapped around them that would catch the rub rail when it floated up and down. It's also a sizable step from the boat to the land because of their thickness.
I may have been doing it wrong, but I noticed others struggling each time we've been, too.
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bobkatfly
10-19-2020, 07:13 AM
So now that the season is pretty much done what are thoughts on the first summer for this store and management? Also are they planning on trying to stay open over the winter?
I am pretty much middle of the road with my opinion, not great, not terrible. Wish them success.
I know someone that works there. Plan is to stay open through the winter. Gas pumps will stay open as well (for snowmobiles). One concern they have is sled access. There is a well traveled trail that leads to the parking area across from the town beach but not sure if there is an easy route from there to the store. I'm not a sledder so if anyone knows of easy access to the store, please post and I will pass it on. I think they run circulators around the docks so access from the lake may be limited or non-existent unless you can access the shore elsewhere and run along the road.
As far as the store itself, they are working through a learning curve with mostly young part timers so inventory has been inconsistent at times but they seem committed to making it work. Let's see how the next few seasons go.
They should look into making a ramp off the ice and up onto the town pier on the northern side of the pier. That side stays frozen and would get sleds to store and gas. They should make the gas pump a pay at pump if it isn't already.
TheTimeTraveler
10-19-2020, 08:36 AM
They should look into making a ramp off the ice and up onto the town pier on the northern side of the pier. That side stays frozen and would get sleds to store and gas. They should make the gas pump a pay at pump if it isn't already.
Pay at the pump is a good idea, but I am thinking that the existing set up is grandfathered as a full service pump.
I believe that self service pumps require far more regulations and requirements when it comes to an automatic fire suppression system and safety requirements.
Also, because of the close proximity to the water I am not sure that a gas pump without an attendant is allowed. I do not believe there is any self service gasoline dispensed at any facility on the lake at the current time (someone please correct me if I am wrong).
Hmmm. Good point. Hadn't thought of that with proximity to the water. Another challenge for them paying someone to run out and put 6 gallons in a sled
bobkatfly
10-19-2020, 11:02 AM
Hmmm. Good point. Hadn't thought of that with proximity to the water. Another challenge for them paying someone to run out and put 6 gallons in a sled
They are definitely in a learn-as-you-go mode, so gas availability this winter season may have to be re-evaluated next season (maybe just weekends). More often, from what I've seen, groups of sleds seem to gas up together so that 6 gallons could often be 20 or more. Also, depending on how school attendance works out with COVID, there may be more availability of workers during the week. I would think weekends wouldn't be affected though.
Juiced06GTO
10-19-2020, 04:23 PM
Having the store open was great since we spent a fair amount of time on the north side of the lake this year. I even ventured there solo with my 5 and 3 year old sons and my 7 year old niece for an evening cruise and ice cream! Was nice to have a place on that side of the lake to make a quick trip to so I hope they stay open for a bit and get things figured out.
fatlazyless
10-19-2020, 04:26 PM
I believe that self service pumps require far more regulations and requirements when it comes to an automatic fire suppression system ...
Looking at the Flightcraft Weirs Beach web cam, one medium fire extinguisher is all their fire fighting, and it's only outside, there, during business hours.
In New Hampshire, unlike Massachusetts, self-serve gas stations for cars and trucks just have a hand held fire extinguisher nearby, and don't have an automatic overhead system.
https://www.facebook.com/Pier-19-Country-Store-122870819547320
TheTimeTraveler
12-22-2020, 09:37 PM
So Pier 19 has been operating under the new ownership for about six months now.
This is the first time that Pier 19 has actually been open during the winter in many years; has anyone heard how their business is doing?
I know they spent a huge amount of money getting up and operating so I am hoping they'll do okay so they will be serving the community for many years to come.
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