Glendale Boat Fire

[Cal]

Heard there was some excitment in front of the Glendale MP docks. Any details??

[GWC...]

That is one hot boat!

Hope all are well.

[ApS]

Lake Winnipesaukee's answer to Michigan's "Smoke On The Waters" Poker Run?

[pmj]

Here is the story.


http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=57844

[Paugus Bay Resident]

From the Citizen (http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050717/CITIZEN0102/107170042/-1/citizen0102)

[WeirsBeachBoater]

Are you kidding me, what kind of warped sense of humor do you have? There were people on that boat!!! Luckily they all had PFD'S and got off unharmed, but to make a joke out of someone's misfortune? SHAME ON YOU!

[codeman671]

Definitely tasteless...But I am sure you'll blame it on speed...

[ApS]

Check the other boating websites. (Nobody got wet).

From the owner of the ½-million-dollar boat:

"...we need more boater attention and education"

Hmmm. Like Leaf-Halon directed fire protection?

[Paugus Bay Resident]

Why didn't you include the whole quote? :rolleye2:

Thomas also said that while they were calling for help and after they had been rescued by Marine Patrol, he saw other boaters come within 100 feet of his boat while it was on fire. "People are worried about the speed limits on the lake, but what we need is boater attention and education," Thomas said.

[Aquadeziac]

Maybe they were the ones bringin' the marshmellows :laugh:


Yeh, I know I will take heat for that one.....um, no pun intended

[Lakewinniboater]

But I will refrain from my comments. I am sure you can assume what I would have said.

Again, are some of you that JEALOUS and ENVIOUS that you wish harm on others. Or think it is ok to make jokes? I am sure that if it was YOUR kids or YOUR family on board, you wouldn't find it quite so funny.

And for others.... there was a suppression system onboard.

[Misty Blue]

Yeah, I was there.

The MP did an outstanding job of maintaining a safe perimeter around the site. As good as any Coast Guard job that I have been on. The Gilford firemen were soaked to the skin heros. Yup, HEROS.
The boat will be a total loss, I expect, but the actions of the vessel operator and the MP saved six lives. Three of them kids as I remember.

Well done.

Misty Blue

[Mink Islander]

I was doing a trash run a couple weeks ago and that boat was obnoxiously revving his engines at high decibels in his boathouse from the time I arrived at the docks until I left 10 minutes later. For the unfamiliar, the boathouse is within a hundred yards of the Glendale docks. Perhaps he was having engine problems then?? No matter, I remember thinking that he was being the perfect poster child for why so many lake residents hate those things by generating such a horrendous din in a public area on an otherwise nice quiet afternoon....I'm really glad no one was injured in either recent accident, but two performance boat fires in a week underscores the apparent other risks they bring to the lake.

[upthesaukee]

Mink Islander, the fire could happen to any of us that have any kind of flammable source on board. I have never noticed any "hi-performance" boat just get jumped into and then cranked up and driven off, unlike at least four different occasions at three different docks yesterday alone by owners of boats such as four winns, regal, searay, etc. that I personally observed.


Noise, yes, but I cannot agree with the "accident waiting to happen tone" of your post. While I usually enjoy reading your contributions, this one seems a little over the edge to me...but I agree with you, thankfully no one was injured.

Just my humble opinion.

Dave

[Mink Islander]

nada mas. As for my "tone"? Always the problem with e-mail -- often hard to know the writer's intent. I've not been one to chime in frequently on the GFBL topic given how emotional both sides tend to get but, like everyone, I do have an opinion. In this instance I had some recent first hand experience related to the boat that burned that I thought was relevant and worth sharing.

[PROPELLER]

Agreed Upthesaukee, its pure coincidence that the 2 recent boat fires were high performance boats. This could have happened to any one of us in any kind of powerboat. Just because 2 high performance boats caught fire does not mean they pose any more risk than other power boats.

There was an accident/injury that occurred over the weekend when a man was thrown from a small open aluminum boat & when the operator returned to help the man overboard he was injured by the propeller. So should we now be concerned about small open aluminum boats?

Where is the outrage from all the high performance boat haters? Its now clear that these small aluminum boats are a hazard. Where's the outrage?

P.S. I forgot about the sailboat that tipped over & dumped someone last weekend. Where is the outrage? Sailboats also are dangerous & pose many hazards. Where's the outrage high performance boat haters?

[KonaChick]

Propeller why such a need to stir the pot? :confused:

[PROPELLER]

I don't stir the pot any more than the High Performance boat haters. When there is High Performance boat bashing, why aren't you asking them why they are stirring the pot?

I think its hypocrisy when there is a negative immediate response to an incident involving a High Performance boat but all you hear is crickets when there is a boating incident involving anything other than a High Performance boat.

Konachick, you still can't get over that thread last year about using snakes to scare away the kids. More than once since my response in that thread you have tried to pick apart my posts. Give it a rest, its old, get over it.

[Mink Islander]

I offered an observation from my own experience. I've not shown an agenda on the GFBL topic on this forum, but I do have an opinion. If you want to twist the thread with silly commentary like that, go ahead. Maybe we should call them GFBF boats? Go fast burn frequently?? LOL! Other than the cabin cruisers, you don't find fire suppression systems in non-high performance boats. How can I NOT conclude there is more fire risk in those boats? It also doesn't seem to me that the fire suppression systems performed as expected in either recent fire. Talk to us about that aspect of the recent events and inform us with facts and useful insight, not sarcastic tirades. Then the forum will serve its intended purpose.

[Lakewinniboater]

I offered an observation from my own experience. I've not shown an agenda on the GFBL topic on this forum, but I do have an opinion. If you want to twist the thread with silly commentary like that, go ahead. Maybe we should call them GFBF boats? Go fast burn frequently?? LOL! Other than the cabin cruisers, you don't find fire suppression systems in non-high performance boats. How can I NOT conclude there is more fire risk in those boats? It also doesn't seem to me that the fire suppression systems performed as expected in either recent fire. Talk to us about that aspect of the recent events and inform us with facts and useful insight, not sarcastic tirades. Then the forum will serve its intended purpose.


You absolutely find fire suppression systems on other boats. INCLUDING bowriders and runabouts! Check out some of the websites. On some it is an option and some boaters can barely afford the basic model and don't choose to have it! I for one have a suppression system and I just down graded from a Cabin Cruiser to a Bow Rider.

NEITHER of those were your so dreaded Go Fast Boats.

Honestly, if everyone stopped worrying about speed and what others can afford that they can't....... we would have a more cohesive Lake society again.

Do yourselves a favor and take some notes for the rest of this summer. Who are the violators...what type of boat... is it rented... I think that you will see that MOST violators of the top 5 issue's it is the inexperienced (or ignorant) smaller FAMILY boats!

I know that I have been looking and taking notes. I wanted to make sure that I WASN'T being biased or DISCRIMINATING.

[PROPELLER]

Do you think LOL about GFBF(go fast burn frequently) is the intended purpose of this forum? Is that fact & useful insight we can all use? Do you think APS "smoke on the water" comment or Aquadeziac "bringin the marshmellows" comment are fact & useful info?

I could have made jokes about the aluminum boat incident or the sailboat incident but I didn't because its not funny. I was sincere about wheres the outrage. If the high performance boat bashers are going to pontificate about every incident involving one then they should be fair & give equal time to all the other incidents that involve other kinds of boats.

Every kind of boat can be dangerous, as evidenced last weekend, even sailboats.

[Lakewinniboater]

Also, if you read the article that had the owner and the MP quoted, he had a new muffler system put in and was having the MP's test to make sure that he passed under the decible ordinance.

So, although I do not know him personally, I am sure there was a reason for him reving the engine. I doubt that he was trying or intented to be obnoxious.

Honestly, from my observations. The type of person that can afford those boats are generally hard working business people. Work very hard all week long and then Play hard on the weekends.

Not everyone enjoys the same types of Play.... some it's quiet enjoyment, some are thrill seekers or social types.

Neither is wrong in their ways of enjoying life. That is why we live in America, the home of the free. New Hampshire "live free or die". Different Strokes for Different Folks. (alright, now I am getting carried away)

But seriously, no one is mentioning the 5 or so other boating accidents in the lakes regions last weekend. 3 of them were sail boats that tipped or were on rocks. Two were small runabouts (one with an outboard) that simply weren't operating safely.

How come?

[PROPELLER]

Because that does not fit the high performance boat bashers agenda.

[Boater]

Because that does not fit the high performance boat bashers agenda.I think it is good that the "high performance boat bashers agenda" is here to balance out the "GFBL agenda". There are 2 sides to every issue and I like to read both.

[Islander]

This "Live free or die" thing means I can like or dislike anything I want. And if I don't like GFBL I can voice my opinion and/or bash them.

Or am I only "free" if I agree that boaters can go as fast as they want and make as much noise as they want?

How does a person "live free" after a GFBL goes over their boat?