Official 2017 Ice Out Thread

[Island Girl]

This is the Official 2017 Ice-Out Thread. If you reply to this thread all of the information about this year's ice-out will be easily accessible to our forum friends.

I thought this thread was early last year on March 1 and here we are on February 27 watching the ice go out. The ice in front of my house on the broad side of Rattlesnake Island looks uneven and punky.

Post your observations, concerns, pictures and whatever else comes to mind re: ice-out. We love your pictures!

The Ice-Out page is up at http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/watch.htm.

There you will find all of the Winnipesaukee WebCams to watch the ice melt as well as links to special ice out features such as Saunder's Bay daily picture with information about previous year's ice out. (I will post link when it is available.)

Ice-out has occurred in recent years when the lake temperature is from 39-41 degrees as reported by the Winnipesaukee Dataphone at the Lakeport Dam. Today the temp is 35 degrees. (it was 38 on March 1 last year)

Let's get on with our favorite activity ... Ice-Out!
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Island Girl

[ishoot308]

Tomorrow and Thursday should cause some serious damage to the ice on the lake. Between the rain, the 60 degree temperature and the high winds, this is a perfect recipe to erase a lot of ice! Lets just hope the winds don't raise havoc with anyone's dock!

Dan

[Island Girl]

The ice is getting gray, a sure sign of ice out coming early this year.

[Slickcraft]

View today from Scenic Road, near Ellacoya. Looking toward Welch. A bit less ice than seen in ishoot's photo from 2 days ago.
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21717

Alan

[Island Girl]

There must be damage done to the ice with all of this fog today. Just a beautiful picture.

[Merrymeeting]

Anyone have a reliable way to get the water temperature? In the past, the water temperature has been a good indicator of impending ice-out. Once it went over 38 degrees, ice-out was usually shortly thereafter.

[Slickcraft]

Ice and whitecaps, view today from Belknap Point.

[Island Girl]

I call the Winnipesaukee Data Phone. They report several data points including the Lake Temperature. I post that from time to time at www.rattlesnakecam.com/watch.htm (http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/watch.htm).

I use this because it is what has been used for many years. Yesterday and todays temp was 37. The previous two days were 35, then 36. My recollection is that ice out happens at 39 or warmer.

603-527-0071 The lake temp is the last data point he reads right after the precipitaition.

IG

[CAVU]

I would say we should be thickening the ice up over the next few days especially Fri-Sun highs teens/twenties, lows near zero.. The bays must still have good ice, it was definitely much better than last year

[Island Girl]

Here is from Melvin Village

[Island Girl]

Things have opened up a bit this afternoon.

12762

[Island Girl]

From Bear Island.. this opened up a lot today.

[WIS]

Looking towards Rattlesnake and Sleepers:

[Prestige Worldwide]

Long Island yesterday.12765

[draintheswamp Jim]

I was very bored so I took a look at the 130 ice out dates and I came up with some interesting observations.
Not in any particular order
Over the 130 years the average ice out is April 19th.
The earliest ice out was in 2016 which occurred on March 18th
The latest ice out was on 12 May in 1888
Ice out has occurred in March 5 times ( three of them in the last 7 years)
Ice out has occurred in May 13 times, the most recent was in 2001
Ice out normally occurs in April, 112 times
The latest ice out average for any ten-year period was the first ten years’ records were kept when it averaged ice out on April 26th.
The earliest ice out average for any ten-year period is the last ten years when it has averaged ice out on April 11th.
The latest ice out average for any twenty-year period was the first twenty years’ records were kept when it averaged ice out on April 23rd
The earliest ice out average for any twenty-year period is the last twenty years when it has averaged ice out on April 13th.
The all-time average ice out over 130 year is 19 April
From 1888 to 1959 ice out average was on 19 April
Since 1950 the ice out average is on 18 april
Since 1960 the ice out average was on 18 April
Since 1970 ice out average was on 17 April
Since 1980 ice out average was on 15 April
Since 1990 ice out average was on 14 April
Since 2000 ice out average was on 13 April
Since 2010 out ice average was on 8 April
2 times in the last 3 years, ice out has been later than the 19th of April the 130 year average. The other year was the earliest ice out ever.
Not that it has anything to do with Lake Winne, but the ice on my farm pond in Northern Mass went out on Feb 27th last year which was the earliest I ever remember in the last 6o years This year it was out on Feb 26th

[Slickcraft]

Welcome to the forum Jim. I guess that is was a slow day.:D

[ishoot308]

The wind for the past few days has really been brutal! I have been watching these giant ice sheets go flying across the broads on a daily basis. These ice chunks have to end up somewhere. I hope everyone's docks downwind don't get too beat up!

Dan

[Slickcraft]

In spite of the cold, there is more open water visible form Belknap Point than 3 days ago. The wind won out.

[Blue Thunder]

Beautiful crystal clear shot today...

[Flyfisha]

http://https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12770&stc=1&d=1488755015

Took a ride to check out Rattlesnake today and this is what we found!!

[HellRaZoR004]

http://https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12770&stc=1&d=1488755015

Took a ride to check out Rattlesnake today and this is what we found!!

Looks like the wind is breaking up the ice fast!

[COW ISL TIME]

Looking Northeast, Shaw peak, Today 10:30

[MAXUM]

Looking across to Bear/Pine from Sheps, on Saturday.

[pontoonbarge]

Picture from broads side of Rattlesnake...I see more water out there in the distance!

[HomeWood]

It looks like there is still a bob house off Long Island almost straight out from the lighthouse. See Trexler's webcam. I wonder if whatever is out there can even be retrieved at this point.

[rsmlp]

The recent ice outs definitely suggest a warming trend-and this year will be no exception. Winters here have turned into a kind of blah more inconvenient mess than fun winter activities. NOT a political opinion just an objective dispassionate observation.

[Island Girl]

Now the icebergs begin on the very windy day. Pray for no damage out three

[JMR]

This is the view from the top of Gunstock Mountain yesterday afternoon. Not shown, the south end of Rattlesnake was open all the way to Ship and Moose Islands. The south side of the peninsula was open. As you can see the Broads were wide open. North side of Rattlesnake peninsula was cracking, as was Alton Bay.
In spite of weather forecast this weekend, it won't be long!

[Island Girl]

Here is the broads going out this morning from 7-9 am.

http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/IceOut2017-TheBroads.mp4

You can't stop Mother Nature!

IG

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[DRH]

Great video, IG! The winds are fierce here today out of the northwest, as your video certainly shows.

[Slickcraft]

A lot more water showing off of Belknap Point today. Cold and very windy so I was a wimp and took the photo sitting in my truck. Looks like the wind caused the lake to tilt:D

[ishoot308]

Almost all slush on the West side of Welch!!!

https://video.nest.com/clip/0dfe203245f1464584909a6fc036682a.mp4

Dan

[Safe Harbor]

What ice?! From Long Island this afternoon...

[jeffatsquam]

What ice?! From Long Island this afternoon...

Recognized that awesome view almost immediately, :) thanks for posting.

[JMR]

My friends are launching a pontoon boat at Ames Farm as I type this and heading to Rattlesnake Island, Broad side. Watch for them on the web cams. They will be waving. Unfortunately, I could not go. We have always been on the island prior to official Ice Out, but not this year for me.


Looking forward to a long season on the lake.

[ishoot308]

My friends are launching a pontoon boat at Ames Farm as I type this and heading to Rattlesnake Island, Broad side. Watch for them on the web cams. They will be waving. Unfortunately, I could not go. We have always been on the island prior to official Ice Out, but not this year for me.


Looking forward to a long season on the lake.

In my humble opinion, that is crazy as there is still a ton of ice west of rattlesnake that could very easily and will eventually get blown in that direction possibly locking them in. I have been watching the ice flows all week from my home heading east some are huge!

To each their own I guess.....

Dan

[Island Girl]

No boat has gone my my cams yet. The saving grace today is it is dead calm. There are a lot of iceberg floating around. I hope they are very careful.

IG

[SIKSUKR]

Here is the broads going out this morning from 7-9 am.

http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/IceOut2017-TheBroads.mp4

You can't stop Mother Nature!

IG

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That is one incredible video that really shows what happens. Where did it all end up? Wow!

[Pricestavern]

That is one incredible video thet really shows what happens.Where did it all end up?Wow!

If history is any indication: Right thru my dock

[JMR]

They made it out and sent a pic. No ice in sight. They would love to be stuck out there. They would crank up the fire and hunker down. It has happened to them before.

[flyguy]

WOW! That time lapse you posted on YouTube is awesome! Guess we'll have to do a flyover- don't see it refreezing soon.

Thanks again!

[Loub52]

3/10/17 @5:10p. Ice as far as the eye can see.

[DRH]

It's only +1 deg. here this morning but we have very strong, gusty wind out of the northwest. We're beginning to see some small areas of open water between the mainland (between Minge Cove and Smalls Cove) and Sleepers Island. Even those small areas of open water have whitecaps today, which eat away at the ice. Today's wind is no doubt putting intense pressure on the ice in this area. If that results in some major stress cracks, the wind could push it all to the southeast as we saw in Island Girl's excellent video of the ice going out on the Broads a few days ago.

You can watch this area of the lake change on the Echo Shores Webcam: http://echoshorescam.com/

[Mink Islander]

My lake cam took an unplanned vacation at the end of the year. But yesterday it surprised me by waking up and sending pics again.

Looks a long way from ice out from this view....

[chasedawg]

My lake cam took an unplanned vacation at the end of the year. But yesterday it surprised me by waking up and sending pics again.

Looks a long way from ice out from this view....

Agreed. Ice out is a long way off for the coves. Even the coves are not in Mt Washington's cruise there are important to those who would like to get to there properties in a early ice out.

For example, it was reported by local neighbors in 19 Mile Bay that there is still 18" of ice. And what happens with the ice when a major Northeaster dumps 2' of snow. I would expect it would be very difficult to snowmobile or even walk on the ice with water and slush below the snow. Our prediction for Ice out at 19 mile bay will be later than April 5th Reporting from Sarasota Florida.

[ishoot308]

Broads and all around Welch are actually starting to refreeze over the past couple cold days. I think at this point a March ice out probably will not happen...

Dan

[flyguy]

We shot a bunch yesterday (3/13/17) that will surprise you! Ice-Out.com (http://www.ice-out.com)

http://photos.smugmug.com/BONUS-PHOTOS-2017/i-HDjT4Dc/0/M/IceOut_1335s30-M.jpg

[Island Girl]

Thanks, Bill for the aerials. Definitely confirms what I saw happening yesterday. I have a time lapse that I need to upload which shows lots of icebergs float by my house, then it all jammed up.

Pretty cool! :liplick:

IG

[welch-time]

The ice is locked in between Welch and Fish (NW side). Open water farther North.
My lakeside camera is working again after being "reset" by the power outage yesterday.
It's been AWOL since December. Really nice having it back (camera date and time is wrong).
http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/mschmitz57/lake-freeze-1_zpsljlya3av.jpg

[Island Girl]

That looks like Stan's dock.

[Island Girl]

Thanks, Bill for the aerials. Definitely confirms what I saw happening yesterday. I have a time lapse that I need to upload which shows lots of icebergs float by my house, then it all jammed up.

Pretty cool! :liplick:

IG

Here is a timelapse on Monday the 13th of the ice going back in. Compare with flyguy's aerial and you will see how that happened. If you go to flyguys site for more pictures you will find one that shows more of the lake and the ice all piled up in a line past Rattlesnake Island.

http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/IceBackIn3-13-2017.mp4

www.rattlesnakecam.com/3-13-2017-IceBackIn.mp4 (http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/3-13-2017-IceBackIn.mp4) (faster version)

[welch-time]

That looks like Stan's dock.

It is. We I bought this camp last year (my wifes family owns the camp 4 houses down).
Sadly Stan passed a couple months ago.

[Island Girl]

I am so sorry to hear about Stan. My late husband and I stayed at that camp in 1999 and 2000 before buying the place on Rattlesnake Island. Stan introduced us to the island in 1998. I met Stan in 1986. Great guy.

IG

[welch-time]

I am so sorry to hear about Stan. My late husband and I stayed at that camp in 1999 and 2000 before buying the place on Rattlesnake Island. Stan introduced us to the island in 1998. I met Stan in 1986. Great guy.

IG

Yes he was. I always enjoyed his sense of humor. My wife introduced me to the island back in the 80's. She shared many a summer with Stan's daughters.

[phoenix]

will likely move ice out into April

[Bayview Girl]

The wind for the past few days has really been brutal! I have been watching these giant ice sheets go flying across the broads on a daily basis. These ice chunks have to end up somewhere. I hope everyone's docks downwind don't get too beat up!



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[RUGMAN]

my view from Methodist cihttps://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12813&stc=1&d=1489838176rcle.

[MDoug]

Anyone hazard a new guess at ice-out ?

The last cold snap seems to have locked up the lake again.

[COW ISL TIME]

No changes this week

[Prestige Worldwide]

The Broads have skimmed over again.


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[Merrymeeting]

Based on the current forecast, it's looking to me like it will be a fairly "normal" ice-out. I.e., early to mid-April, slow and steady.

Solar gain at this time of year is strong, and temps during the days are usually above freezing. But the nights still drop into the 20's. So you get some melting during the day, and some cool down at night. But the water temp continues to slowly rise, and when it reaches 38-39, the melting from below takes over and it all breaks up.

Baring a drastic change in the weather pattern, about 3 more weeks.

[MikeF-NH]

I've noticed we no longer have any cams in Alton Bay (one of the first areas to break up) and the Pine Island cams (which showed ice breaking up a few weeks back) all seem to be either off line, redirected or no longer on this site. Does anybody have any cams or recent pictures from these areas?

We had so much open water on the Broads and that seemed to slip back into winter with another ice coating. Hoping for warmer weather, rain and wind....

[MAXUM]

Power is out on the north end of Bear so the bear cam is not working at the moment. That was a good vantage point that won't be back till power is restored. NHEC won't send guys out over the ice in it's current condition. I'm sure they will be out there soon as the ice is out.

[Blue Thunder]

I've noticed we no longer have any cams in Alton Bay (one of the first areas to break up) and the Pine Island cams (which showed ice breaking up a few weeks back) all seem to be either off line, redirected or no longer on this site. Does anybody have any cams or recent pictures from these areas?

We had so much open water on the Broads and that seemed to slip back into winter with another ice coating. Hoping for warmer weather, rain and wind....

This is the view from space as of Saturday. Quite a bit of difference from 2 weeks ago...in the wrong direction!

[ishoot308]

This is the view from space as of Saturday. Quite a bit of difference from 2 weeks ago...in the wrong direction!

One thing about that photo...the area in the broads that looks like open water is actually black ice which formed after the big snowstorm. The lake is almost completely frozen over at the moment....

Dan

[Mink Islander]

From Yesterday. Mount Washington very white in the distance.

[Pine Island Guy]

I've noticed we no longer have any cams in Alton Bay (one of the first areas to break up) and the Pine Island cams (which showed ice breaking up a few weeks back) all seem to be either off line, redirected or no longer on this site. Does anybody have any cams or recent pictures from these areas?

We had so much open water on the Broads and that seemed to slip back into winter with another ice coating. Hoping for warmer weather, rain and wind....

Unfortunately my webcam that posts to the website every minute slipped off the perch I put it on to watch ice-out... but here's a shot looking down the Bear/Pine channel from this morning... what was water a week ago is now ice...

Happy first day of spring, let the melting proceed! -PIG

[MAXUM]

Unfortunately my webcam that posts to the website every minute slipped off the perch I put it on to watch ice-out... but here's a shot looking down the Bear/Pine channel from this morning... what was water a week ago is now ice...

Happy first day of spring, let the melting proceed! -PIG

Awh man that's depressing to look at!

[Island Girl]

This is one scary ice ridge. I have never seen anything quite like this. Melt please!

[flyguy]

Help fund more Ice-Out aerial photos this year! (http://www.gofundme.com/ICE-OUT)

Thanks

[Wolfe-man]

Happy to help flyguy! Thanks for your time and all the great ice-out photos.

[flyguy]

Happy to help flyguy! Thanks for your time and all the great ice-out photos.

Thanks Mike! :) We never even break even on this series of photos, so any little bit helps to pay for fuel, insurance, web site,etc.! I sincerely appreciate your donation. Stay tuned!

[welch-time]

Strong wind pushing ice out from between Welch and Fish this morning, getting swept out into the Broads.
I expect it to be clear up to the breakwater by noon.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/mschmitz57/ice-out-1_zpsydmvoiki.jpg

some video here:
https://youtu.be/NBxBFCNGqS4

[Mink Islander]

This is looking north with the tip of Bear on the left. The wind hasn't had any impact on the ice here.

[ishoot308]

The wind opened up the broads quite a bit today. That's Welch island on the left....

[welch-time]

And just like that...

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/mschmitz57/ice-out-7_zpsnjufhpe3.jpg

[JMR]

I took this shot last yesterday afternoon from the top of Gunstock. Broads re-opening and, although I didn't take a picture of it, there appears to be a hole opening south end of Rattlesnake Island.

[WJT2]

Lily Pond usually goes out about a week ahead of Winnie. Anyone know the status there? Great pictures and video's. Keep them coming.
Thanks
WJT2

[upthesaukee]

Just went by Lily Pond. Still ice covered.

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[chipj29]

I guess my ice out prediction of March 24 is toast. :(

[8gv]

I guess my ice out prediction of March 24 is toast. :(

It could happen, though what is required to make it happen would be pretty bad.
:eek:

[SIKSUKR]

It could happen, though what is required to make it happen would be pretty bad.
:eek:

Like this?

[rsmlp]

I guess my ice out prediction of March 24 is toast. :(

Don't feel too bad, chipj29 I guessed earlier!:confused:

[smith point boater]

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[smith point boater]

I think it's gonna be awhile



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[Wiezy]

Here's a photo from 380 feet in the air from above Rattlesnake toward Diamond and Welch at 12:30pm today (Saturday March 25th). Sorry for the water on the lens, it started sprinkling once I was out. I see what looks like open water by Welch.

[MDoug]

Here's a photo from 380 feet in the air from above Rattlesnake toward Diamond and Welch at 12:30pm today (Saturday March 25th). Sorry for the water on the lens, it started sprinkling once I was out. I see what looks like open water by Welch.

How did you get to Rattlesnake?

[Wiezy]

How did you get to Rattlesnake?

Hey Doug, I flew my DJI Phantom 3 Pro (3 mile range) from the Rattlesnake launch (Glidden Cove) over to Rattlesnake and got the photo from there. I wanted to see how the broads were over there, lots of big cracks but not much open water there!

[MDoug]

That's just awesome!

[JMR]

I didn't take a photo yesterday, but the Broads were open north of Rattlesnake as of about 1 PM. some cracking around the peninsula on the island. We'll see what today brings.

[Pine Island Guy]

Unfortunately not much change from our vantage point...

Need Sun, Warm, and Wind -PIG

[upthesaukee]

Tear up your March ice-out guesses; Lily Pond in Gilford is still iced in. 😁

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[MDoug]

Tear up your March ice-out guesses; Lily Pond in Gilford is still iced in. 😁

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I just changed my reservation with JetBlue to May 13 from April 29. I hope that will give NHEC enough time to restore power to Bear Island and our camp.

[flyguy]

We flew Ice Patrol again today- no matter what it looks like from the shore, there is still a LOT of ice- and much of it where it re-froze. We'll have a full report as well as many new photos on our Ice-Out.com site by the weekend.

Also had fun doing a Facebook LIVE video broadcast from the plane! Pretty sure that's never been done before. While it did not come out great, it showed that there may be the possibility of a LIVE Ice-Out announcement when it happens!:eek:

http://https://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/data/515/thumbs/IceOut_1367As30.jpg (https://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=19565)

[CAVU]

watching WGME, forecast is for 10-16" Fri-Sat, that should insulate the snow pack nicely.

[upthesaukee]

NWS shows 6-8 inches for Laconia.

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[MDoug]

NWS shows 6-8 inches for Laconia.

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Will that hinder ice out more?

[codeman671]

Will that hinder ice out more?

I doubt it. The next week is going to be in the 40s every day with some rain. As the snow on top melts it's just going to drop more water on top of the ice. The top will get slushy, it probably won't be cold long enough for it to add more frozen surface to the top.

We do have some wind coming with the storm. That will also get stuff moving. We have a few weeks to go with or without the storm.

[ishoot308]

Here's a quick 30 second clip looking from the west side of Welch. As you can see everything still locked up tight all the way to Belknap Point, Lockes Island, Witches, Governors Island, Timber Island, Round Island. There are still people ice fishing Sanders Bay!

Going to be a while yet!

https://video.nest.com/clip/0cb5eb43d5cb44aeb5f7c6f1e62b35c3.mp4

Dan

[flyguy]

Three dozen new aerial photos - taken yesterday- just posted to http://www.ice-out.com. Much of the lake that had thawed refroze over the last two weeks. Coves & harbors are still solid. Looking like the third week in April???

[Blue Thunder]

Today's MODIS view...

[Hillcountry]

Wow! My guess would be sometime in early May!
Ever been that late?

[RUGMAN]

This time last year Boat was in the Water?
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12850&stc=1&d=1491139471

[Slickcraft]

I did see a boat in the water today; between Ellacoya and Welch. Also saw two kayaks off of Ellacolya. Still a lot of ice just out of the photo to the left; NW.

[ishoot308]

Most likely fishermen as fishing opened yesterday.

A lot of icebergs going through that area also.

Dan

[Pine Island Guy]

with the temps today and warmer this coming week... couple that with some rain and wind on Tuesday and Thursday... things should be looking pretty good by the weekend or early next week!

Today looking down the Pine/Bear channel... PIG

[MDoug]

with the temps today and warmer this coming week... couple that with some rain and wind on Tuesday and Thursday... things should be looking pretty good by the weekend or early next week!

Today looking down the Pine/Bear channel... PIG

Report from Y Landing is that they have ice in their cove but that NHEC crew and tree cutters have managed to get to Bear. NHEC restored power a few days ago

[welch-time]

Ice behind dock melting nicely today. Lots of open water on North side of Welch. Water temp must be rising or maybe the onshore wind pushing warmer surface water into Welch. Yesterday's snow melting quickly too. We need some 40-50 degree days.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/mschmitz57/ice-out-2_zpsvzwwzxdv.jpg

[bclaker]

I am reading 72 on my thermometer in the sun at 5:00. That should speed up the melt.

[Merrymeeting]

Water temp must be rising.

Anyone have a recent water temp reading?

[kawishiwi]

Anyone have a recent water temp reading?

Scroll down in this link:
http://www.trexlers.com/lake-winnipesaukee-live-feed.html

[mattmass]

It was nice to see the fishing boat out near Welch. Where could one launch a boat currently to get out to that large piece of fishable open water??? I am coming up next weekend with a group of guys to try and fish, how do we get in that open water???

[ishoot308]

It was nice to see the fishing boat out near Welch. Where could one launch a boat currently to get out to that large piece of fishable open water??? I am coming up next weekend with a group of guys to try and fish, how do we get in that open water???

Possibly, as long as recent snowstorm did not block access, Ellacoya State Park...small boats only, very shallow launch. Could get iced in quickly from moving ice from the West so be aware and careful!!....

Dan

[Mink Islander]

Ice Ice Go Away, I want my boat in before Memorial Day!

[Slickcraft]

Possibly, as long as recent snowstorm did not block access, Ellacoya State Park...small boats only, very shallow launch. Could get iced in quickly from moving ice from the West so be aware and careful!!....

Dan

Yes it looked like the 2 fishermen launched the small boat at Ellacoya. There were a few pickups parked down at the end of the lane.

[Pine Island Guy]

Report from Y Landing is that they have ice in their cove but that NHEC crew and tree cutters have managed to get to Bear. NHEC restored power a few days ago

Here's a shot from Y-Landing yesterday looking across the channel to Pine Island... it is going quickly, today should help a lot!

To quote the Wicked Witch of the West... "I'm melting, I'm melting..." -PIG

[Flyfishnh]

Does anyone have pics of Alton?

[Pine Island Guy]

Does anyone have pics of Alton?

Drove down Route 11 the length of Alton Bay yesterday and it is still frozen up pretty solid, although in many spots the ice was turning a nice shade of gray... The only open water was around the docks...

Hoping melting progresses nicely this week! -PIG

[webmaster]

Does anyone have pics of Alton?There are some aerial shots from 3/29 here:

http://www.ice-out.com/BONUS-PHOTOS-2017/

[Flyfishnh]

Thank you, hopefully in the next few weeks the bay will be open!:eek: Getting anxious to get the boat in the water!

[Slickcraft]

Yes it looked like the 2 fishermen launched the small boat at Ellacoya. There were a few pickups parked down at the end of the lane.


Well maybe not, drove in today and there were no tracks in the snow indicating a boat launch since the April fools day snow. There is a small circle at the end where a 4WD vehicle could turn with a short trailer and back to the water. Then pulling away from the water maybe parking for four vehicles with short trailers or park out on the road.

[Hillcountry]

Well maybe not, drove in today and there were no tracks in the snow indicating a boat launch since the April fools day snow. There is a small circle at the end where a 4WD vehicle could turn with a short trailer and back to the water. Then pulling away from the water maybe parking for four vehicles with short trailers or park out on the road.

I used to "cartop" years ago in my younger days...one could manage a small aluminum or Jon boat and a couple of fly rods and troll by rowing...maybe that's what happened here??
Thanks for the pic!

[ishoot308]

Looking at the ice tonight between Welch, Belknap Point, Lockes Island, Round Island and Timber island, it is ready to go! One day of rain and a little wind and it will be gone!

Keeping fingers crossed!

Dan

[Mink Islander]

North of Mink Island the ice is starting to get very gray. Weather this week should accelerate things. Sounds like a lot of progress is happening south of Mink too.

[WJT2]

The view shows West end of Jolly and Birch Islands , East Side of Bear with Six Mile , Little Six Mile and Far Ozone to the North. Is that correct? Thanks for your many photo's

[Descant]

I recall anecdotal history that Winni is ice-out 10 days after Crystal Lake in Gilmanton and about the same for Lily Pond in Gilford.
How are these two indicators doing this year?

[Mink Islander]

The view shows West end of Jolly and Birch Islands , East Side of Bear with Six Mile , Little Six Mile and Far Ozone to the North. Is that correct? Thanks for your many photo's

You're welcome!

[SIKSUKR]

The blowtorch is coming. Heavy rain on Thursday and then next week could get in the 70's. It will come.

[ishoot308]

Just went by Lily pond and there is very very small spot of open water in the center can't be more than 5' in diameter but...In my finest Scottish accent.... "She's breaking up Captain!"

[MDoug]

Just went by Lily pond and there is very very small spot of open water in the center can't be more than 5' in diameter but...In my finest Scottish accent.... "She's breaking up Captain!"

Beam me up!

[dippasan]

Beam me up!

Sprinkle some Dilithium crystals on it. That'll break it up!!:D

[Chaos]

Hi Island Girl, any idea when the Silver Sands page will be online? It's getting to be that time :)

Thanks,
Mike

[MikeF-NH]

The cams from pine island and bear seem to show no ice in the area but the bear cam pointing a sheps makes the entire area look iced in. Is that last cam updating or does anyone know if you can launch out of sheps and get to the open water between the islands?

For extra credit does anyone have updates on how Alton bay is looking or west Alton marina areas?

[Pine Island Guy]

The cams from pine island and bear seem to show no ice in the area but the bear cam pointing a sheps makes the entire area look iced in. Is that last cam updating or does anyone know if you can launch out of sheps and get to the open water between the islands?

For extra credit does anyone have updates on how Alton bay is looking or west Alton marina areas?

Hi Mike - all cams are in working order but it has been a very odd ice-out around Bear/Pine. It is still ice between Shep's and Bear, but definitely softening and with the pouring rain tonight it should be going quickly... The channel between Y-Landing and Pine is mostly open, and you could possibly scoot around the south side of Pine to open water on the north side of Bear...

As of last Sunday Alton Bay was still completely iced-over with melting around the shoreline/docks.

I have been doing my "melt dance", it's not pretty but it's working! -PIG

[DRH]

For extra credit does anyone have updates on how Alton bay is looking or west Alton marina areas?Here's the link to the Morin Insurance Agency's webcam in Alton Bay:

http://www.morinagency.com/webcam/live.aspx

[MikeF-NH]

thank you both for the response. Looks like another weekend before trying to float the boat....unless something crazy happens today around Sheps. I did notice that the Broads side of rattesnake opened up completely over night even though the west side is still locked up.

[CaptT820]

This is the link to the Echo Shores cam in West Alton showing a nice view from the mainland from left to right of Sleepers, Rattlesnake, Cub, and Treasure Islands.

http://www.echoshorescam.com/

It sure looks a lot different than last year at this time when I was already out at the island.

[MAXUM]

I have it on first hand intel from this morning not yet between Sheps and Bear.. still to much in the way but the ice is looking real punky and likely will change dramatically over the next few days.

[Pine Island Guy]

Ice-out officially declared on Pine Island... we can get to all our ports-of-call... both Y-Landing and Pine Island hahaha...

The remainder of the lake to follow soon! -PIG

[allhansondeck]

Thanks for this valuable info

[codeman671]

I wish Marine Patrol would put up a camera looking out of Glendale. It would be helpful for the many islanders that use the public facility, as well as give people a look at weather conditions, available dock space, etc.

[MAXUM]

I wish Marine Patrol would put up a camera looking out of Glendale. It would be helpful for the many islanders that use the public facility, as well as give people a look at weather conditions, available dock space, etc.

That would be nice except it would cost the tax payers 50x's what it should and it'd never work right.

[Slickcraft]

I wish Marine Patrol would put up a camera looking out of Glendale. It would be helpful for the many islanders that use the public facility, as well as give people a look at weather conditions, available dock space, etc.

That is a good idea. In the spring (whenever that is) the Gilford Islands Association is supposed to get a tour of the new digs. If that actually happens and I am there, I will make that suggestion.

[mattmass]

First off for codeman: Glendale is locked up pretty solid, I think it's going to be another 10 days in there.

We launched our fishing boat from Ellacoya this morning and fished the broads and up and around the east side of Welch. Mostly all open water in this area. Lots of ice blowing and moving so you do need to be careful of getting locked in. No fish boated but it was great to get out on the big lake! We are going to hit it again Saturday and Sunday weather permitting.

[ishoot308]

Wow, what a difference a day makes! The broads are wide open this morning! From Lockes island to as far as I can see to the south which should be past rattlesnake. There is still some ice on the North side of Welch and North from there.

I'll post some pics later on of certain areas around the lake between Gilford and Meredith as I have some errands to run in that direction.

Won't be long now!

Dan

[smith point boater]

Still plenty of ice from Diamond Is. and thru the area between Rattlesnake and Smith Point and out past Sleepers. This wind today will help but until the ice starts moving its here for several more days

[smith point boater]

I'll correct myself - this wind has already pushed the ice line between Diamond and Rattlesnake

[ishoot308]

Update:

Weirs is still fully iced in. Channel is open

Meredith bay, fully iced in

Sanders Bay, iced in.

Smith cove, iced in.

Glendale, iced in but ice line is at the point and shouldn't be long before it's gone. See attached pic.

Broads are fully open from Lockes island to Rattlesnake.

[Jtin333]

Is everyone thinking that with 60 degrees tomorrow, 75 on Monday, 78 Tuesday, and 62 Wednesday that we will have ice out by Wednesday or Thursday?

[Pine Island Guy]

For extra credit does anyone have updates on how Alton bay is looking or west Alton marina areas?

This is the view of Alton Bay yesterday afternoon from the 'scenic overlook' on Route 11 looking out the mouth of the bay, the other downtown to the Bandstand.

Today, Monday, and Tuesday should free things up if we can get a little wind to help the warm temps and sunshine! -PIG

[Barney Bear]

Folks whose places are on wide open locations hope that the pack ice melts away on calm days thus avoiding damage to their in-the-water docks. Last year, we suffered severe damage from wind blown ice to our exposed dock on East Bear Island. 😱

[ishoot308]

There are a few boats fishing in the broads this morning! All must have launched at Ellacoya. Wish I was one of them!

Dan

[welch-time]

There must have been a lot of ice breaking up yesterday because a huge raft of broken brash ice floated past our place heading out into the broads. Most of it has cleared by this morning but our shoreline and breakwater is surrounded by chunks, slush, etc. I suspect this was some of the remaining ice on the West side of Welch. Sunny and warm today. Should see more progress.

[Slickcraft]

There are a few boats fishing in the broads this morning! All must have launched at Ellacoya. Wish I was one of them!

Dan

There are several pickups with small trailers parked at Ellacoya.

[Descant]

Is everyone thinking that with 60 degrees tomorrow, 75 on Monday, 78 Tuesday, and 62 Wednesday that we will have ice out by Wednesday or Thursday?

Welcome to the Forum.
Ice-out is complicated. Not just a matter of warm days. In this case, you may be right. My guess, made months ago, is for the 16th.
I still haven't heard about Lily Pond and Crystal Lake which I think of as 10 day Canarys.

[Slickcraft]

View from Belknap Point today.

Smith cove is iced in however at Glendale it is almost open to the Marine Patrol.

[mattmass]

Landed a beautiful 22" 4lb. Salmon yesterday just off Welch. Launched from Ellacoya.

[Slickcraft]

At 8 am today Lily pond was still 80 to 90% ice albeit very dark in color. There should be a lot less at the end of the day.

[Hillcountry]

Landed a beautiful 22" 4lb. Salmon yesterday just off Welch. Launched from Ellacoya.

That's a fatty! Nice!

[rsmlp]

Very warm temps this week and wind picks up TH. Ice out 4/13?

[MikeF-NH]

Very warm temps this week and wind picks up TH. Ice out 4/13?

I don't know about official ice out by the 13th. While large stretches of the Borads are wide open. Alton Bay is still covered in ice the before the gazebo and that sheet ice has to clear for The Mount to reach AB. Wolfboro also looks locked up as well as the view from Weirs...locking in merideth. I'm sure at least one of those bays will still be locked in...possibly even Center Harbor

[codeman671]

I don't know about official ice out by the 13th. While large stretches of the Borads are wide open. Alton Bay is still covered in ice the before the gazebo and that sheet ice has to clear for The Mount to reach AB. Wolfboro also looks locked up as well as the view from Weirs...locking in merideth. I'm sure at least one of those bays will still be locked in...possibly even Center Harbor

I agree, the 13th is pretty optimistic. Lily Pond is historically a solid indicator, and someone already updated on that situation.

[Island Girl]

I keep checking, but it is not up yet.

IG


Hi Island Girl, any idea when the Silver Sands page will be online? It's getting to be that time :)

Thanks,
Mike

[MDoug]

Landed a beautiful 22" 4lb. Salmon yesterday just off Welch. Launched from Ellacoya.
What were you using?
Trolling?

Apology for fish thread but I gotta know!

[kawishiwi]

Water @ 11 ft @ Trexlers/Quayside hit 40 today. Thats gonna start rising through the water column and do serious damage to the ice.





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[Slickcraft]

Update on Lily Pond at the end of the day it's more than half Open Water.

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[Meredith_Resident]

I bet Meredith bay will be clear of ice by the end of this week! It has that dark, granulated appearance today and it'll be in the upper 70s again tomorrow!! :)

[CaptT820]

Courtesy of www.echoshorescam.com. Happy to see this, since we live on Sleepers.
12876

[Slickcraft]

Lily Pond is 80% out will be gone by the end of the day

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[Lakeboater]

I guess you don't have to wait for ice out!

[sum-r breeze]

My guess was today at 11:00 .......4/11 at 11 Whatever ;0)

[MAXUM]

Nope sure don't, but you do need to be careful doing this!!!!

Being the only idiot on Bear Island on a beautiful 85 degree day, PRICELESS!

Ice report, what I went through had no structure to it, just ice tubes and maybe 2-3 inches in length. Ice line as I was leaving was as follows, to the north between 3 mile and the beavers then to black cat. All clear to right about six mile blocking access to the LI bridge then from what I could see opens back up 3/4 the way down LI and over towards Welch. Between Pine and shore was clear to where it opens up between bear and shore. What ice is there (what I pushed through) just needs wind to clear it out. Ice has receded about 1/4 the way out from Bear and there are large breaks here and there of open water. About half way between sheps and cattle it opens up again all the way down past cattle and into the open area beyond the narrows there.

It won't be long however some areas do look like there is still even after all this warmth still bright white ice.

Meredith bay looks ready to go at least the first 1/3 of it very dark almost black, the ice does turn to a lighter grey looking down towards weirs.

Water temp on the fish finder was 38 degrees.

[WJT2]

Thanks for the update. Be a good day for a Steelcraft!

[Blue Thunder]

Nope sure don't, but you do need to be careful doing this!!!!

Being the only idiot on Bear Island on a beautiful 85 degree day, PRICELESS!

Ice report, what I went through had no structure to it, just ice tubes and maybe 2-3 inches in length. Ice line as I was leaving was as follows, to the north between 3 mile and the beavers then to black cat. All clear to right about six mile blocking access to the LI bridge then from what I could see opens back up 3/4 the way down LI and over towards Welch. Between Pine and shore was clear to where it opens up between bear and shore. What ice is there (what I pushed through) just needs wind to clear it out. Ice has receded about 1/4 the way out from Bear and there are large breaks here and there of open water. About half way between sheps and cattle it opens up again all the way down past cattle and into the open area beyond the narrows there.

It won't be long however some areas do look like there is still even after all this warmth still bright white ice.

Meredith bay looks ready to go at least the first 1/3 of it very dark almost black, the ice does turn to a lighter grey looking down towards weirs.

Water temp on the fish finder was 38 degrees.

A little tidbit...the condition of the ice you describe is called "Candle Ice" as it looks like thousands of little candles vertically stacked together. In a slight breeze they rub together making a tinkling sound. It's cool to actually hear it happen.

BT

[MikeF-NH]

Nope sure don't, but you do need to be careful doing this!!!!

Being the only idiot on Bear Island on a beautiful 85 degree day, PRICELESS!

Ice report, what I went through had no structure to it, just ice tubes and maybe 2-3 inches in length. Ice line as I was leaving was as follows, to the north between 3 mile and the beavers then to black cat. All clear to right about six mile blocking access to the LI bridge then from what I could see opens back up 3/4 the way down LI and over towards Welch. Between Pine and shore was clear to where it opens up between bear and shore. What ice is there (what I pushed through) just needs wind to clear it out. Ice has receded about 1/4 the way out from Bear and there are large breaks here and there of open water. About half way between sheps and cattle it opens up again all the way down past cattle and into the open area beyond the narrows there.

It won't be long however some areas do look like there is still even after all this warmth still bright white ice.

Meredith bay looks ready to go at least the first 1/3 of it very dark almost black, the ice does turn to a lighter grey looking down towards weirs.

Water temp on the fish finder was 38 degrees.

Based on the pictures and great report....it seems "marginally safe" to launch from Sheps as of yesterday (is that accurate)? I am hoping to launch my 1875 Lund on Friday morning. Please provide any updates if anyone else is in the area today or tomorrow.

Of course if ice blows in from the south....it could lock everything up quickly with drifting ice. I'm hoping winds from the north will blow ice out toward Cattle Landing.

[Formula260SS]

Planning to hit Rattlesnake Saturday, does anyone know how the landing or minge looks? We've busted through ice before and we'll do it again :D

Here's to getting back to some lake time !!!

[MAXUM]

Based on the pictures and great report....it seems "marginally safe" to launch from Sheps as of yesterday (is that accurate)? I am hoping to launch my 1875 Lund on Friday morning. Please provide any updates if anyone else is in the area today or tomorrow.

Of course if ice blows in from the south....it could lock everything up quickly with drifting ice. I'm hoping winds from the north will blow ice out toward Cattle Landing.

Yes that's accurate....hard to predict exactly what you'll find I was lucky yesterday in that there wasn't much in the way of wind so coming back after being out on the island all day conditions didn't really change from an ice flow perspective a whole lot so the return trip was easy enough but I will admit I was prepared to be marooned for a few days if need be.

If I were you I'd say go for it even if there is some ice out there it's disappearing fast. If you find the need to push through any ice pick your path carefully and creep through it. I had no problem going as fast as my outboard idles in gear occasionally using my paddle to push a solid piece out of the way. I do agree wind from the SE could be a far bigger problem than from the NW.

Good luck and I hope you get out there.

[flyguy]

Made this while editing our newest set of aerials- available at http://www.ice-out.com

[flyguy]

If I were you I'd say go for it even if there is some ice out there it's disappearing fast.


Here ya go! (taken 4/11)

[Island Girl]

Minge is still somewhat iced in. A lot has melted today all around the lake. We plan on putting the boat in the water Saturday if that ice you see melts. I do not want the wind to pick up and have icebergs crash into my boat. There is a lot of ice at the southern end of the lake. Once that breaks up, if there is a wind from the SE give or take a few degrees, that will come rushing past Rattlesnake and smash into anything in its way. We are hoping for an overnight, but not if there is the chance of damage to the boat. Andrew's Marine Service website has a new image every day. This is from April 12. That is a thick chunk of ice there!

http://www.andrewsmarineservice.com/image/122894355_scaled_302x537.jpg

Planning to hit Rattlesnake Saturday, does anyone know how the landing or minge looks? We've busted through ice before and we'll do it again :D

Here's to getting back to some lake time !!!

[Hillcountry]

Ice out caller, Emerson Aviation, just had an interview a minute ago with Mike Haddad of WMUR and he predicted "official" ice out would be on Wednesday or Thursday of next week...

[Barney Bear]

Nice piece on the 6:00 news on WMUR today. Interview with pilot Dave with views and discussion about this special anticipated event. ��

http://www.wmur.com/article/monday-may-4th-ice-out/4982756

[MAXUM]

Here ya go! (taken 4/11)

Surprised you didn't catch me out there picking my way through all that in the boat. Probably would have had to add the caption, look at that knucklehead!

Looks a lot more ominous from the air.

;)

Awesome shot!

[Island Girl]

Flyguy's aerials are important to seeing what parts of the lake are still iced in as well as the color of the ice. Please go to his site to donate money so he can go up more often. Airplane fuel is not cheap. flyguy, what does the fuel cost for each flight? This would help our generous viewers understand how much to donate.

I am always amazed how much the lake changes in a day and would love more frequent images.

IG





Here ya go! (taken 4/11)

[mattmass]

Trolling with sinking tip fly line and a #4 tandem streamer.

What were you using?
Trolling?





Apology for fish thread but I gotta know!

[smith point boater]

All open water from Smith Point to south side of Rattlesnake except in the 2 corners on either side of the "thumb". Cannot see the landing but it was almost out Tuesday so with the wind today should be clear by weekend

[JMR]

Drove to lake today and took some pics. hopefully they attach. Having difficulty with Explorer

[Pine Island Guy]

Based on the pictures and great report....it seems "marginally safe" to launch from Sheps as of yesterday (is that accurate)? I am hoping to launch my 1875 Lund on Friday morning. Please provide any updates if anyone else is in the area today or tomorrow.

Of course if ice blows in from the south....it could lock everything up quickly with drifting ice. I'm hoping winds from the north will blow ice out toward Cattle Landing.

Wide open at Shep's today thanks to a strong wind blowing down the channel from the north. Could see ice further south, guessing about the end of Bear.

Nice to be out on the island! PIG

[Pine Island Guy]

Wide open at Shep's today thanks to a strong wind blowing down the channel from the north. Could see ice further south, guessing about the end of Bear.

As MAXUM pointed out a south wind could change things, and sure enough the ice has blown back in. However just saw a fishing boat plow through it easily, so assume it is "candle ice".

-PIG

[upthesaukee]

Lily Pond is open.

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[phoenix]

based on this usually how much later is ice out

[Island Girl]

Did Lily Pond just go out or earlier in the week?

IG

[Kerk]

I went to Cow Is. yesterday in A.M. .Orchard ove was still ied in so walked the shore to 110 --112--113 area and all was good with no damage to my place and neighbors either. Good Day and Dock is together. Hope water level does not come way up so decking floats away a it did many years ago.. Seems to be almost full lake!. Enjoy the weather. Kerk

[Slickcraft]

Did Lily Pond just go out or earlier in the week?

IG

It was out late in the day of 4/11.

[CAVU]

Here is the latest shot from space.

[CAVU]

Huh? No image, wonder what I did wrong..

[Island Girl]

Here is my crop from today's MODIS image. It shows Squam, Winnisquam and Wentworth along with Winnipesaukee.

[Slickcraft]

We finally got out to Welch late yesterday when the ice in the end of Smith Cove finally gave way. Great to be here, very nice calm morning today prior to the wind kicking up a bit. Riding around Welch no sign of ice except in the small cove by Winter Harbor Yacht club. I was surprised that we saw no floating debris however we keep a lookout at modest speed.

[LadyJane]

My Ice Out guess is for tomorrow, 4/17 @ 9:42 am. I think I'll be close !! And better yet......I'm coming up to the lake tomorrow !! YES !!!!

[MAXUM]

We finally got out to Welch late yesterday when the ice in the end of Smith Cove finally gave way. Great to be here, very nice calm morning today prior to the wind kicking up a bit. Riding around Welch no sign of ice except in the small cove by Winter Harbor Yacht club. I was surprised that we saw no floating debris however we keep a lookout at modest speed.

That is an awesome island boat!

[Slickcraft]

That is an awesome island boat!

Thanks, we like it a lot. Dave Ewing found it for us. Of course we had been looking at ishoot308's boat some 300' away for a while prior to that. An Eastern makes a great island boat.

'

[KTO]

Drone video from the Meredith/Center Harbor line.. it's coming!!

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[Gatto Nero]

From my vantage point this morning the remaining ice in that clip is gone.

[Merrymeeting]

As of yesterday morning, Merrymeeting is completely ice free.

[bostonjd]

Last night Wolfeboro harbor opened up completely. That port of call is wide open.

[SteveO123]

Opechee iced out this morning!

[HellRaZoR004]

Ice Out Declared on Winni @ 08:31...

https://www.facebook.com/Emerson-Aviation-131847876851023/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

[MDoug]

Ice Out Declared @ 08:31...

https://www.facebook.com/Emerson-Aviation-131847876851023/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

Ice Out on Winni?:)

[Island Girl]

If you look at the photos on Emerson's Facebook page you will see there is still some ice in coves should you want to venture out today.

2017 - Here we come!!!

IG

[HellRaZoR004]

Ice Out on Winni?:)

Yes, updated the post. Thanks.

[MikeF-NH]

I started in Alton Bay this morning but was champing at the bit to check out the area from the six pack down to barber pole. Went past barber pole only about 1/2 mile before I could see the entire bay there to Hole in the Wall was still iced in. I will probably be clear by next weekend though.

[steve c]

The ice currently in the area of the Grave Yard and 19 Mile Bay will prevent the Mt from making her little known port of Lees Mills

[Dave M]

Anybody know if Morrison Cove(near Long Island) is clear.

Thanks Dave M

[DickR]

Anybody know if Morrison Cove(near Long Island) is clear.

I can't see all the way in, but from across the way the south end is clear, as is the whole area between the bridge and six-pack, which went out yesterday in the breeze. Today is breezy, coming more or less into the cove, so I can't imagine there is anything left further in. HTH

[MikeF-NH]

Has anyone tried travelling from Barbers Pole to Melvin. Is it still iced in?