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Just Sold
12-04-2015, 04:36 PM
Took a drive to the lake today. Construction is underway on the new Marine Patrol Headquarters and Shibley's at the Pier new deck is almost complete.

fatlazyless
12-04-2015, 07:09 PM
....and don't forget ...... by going to the walk-in window at the new MP-Hdqtrs in Gilford ......you save five dollars off on your annual boat registration fee as opposed to what you pay at your local marina, or local town hall ...because there's no local service charge at the Marine Patrol. I believe the lowest price for an annual boat registration ....... say, for a 12' sailboat without a motor, is $39 ...... so it would cost $39, as opposed to $44 at a local marina, or local town hall, and the entire $39 goes to the Marine Patrol without getting split with the local town.

www.laconiadailysun.com/newsx/local-news/83763-marine-patrol-hq

Plus, you get to see what this new 10.7-million dollar Marine Patrol Hdqtrs will look like!

Or, try googling: "A night on Winnipesaukee with the Marine Patrol" .... Concord Monitor; July 21, 2013.

TiltonBB
12-04-2015, 08:03 PM
Less, you forgot to mention that the wear and tear and gasoline in your car driving to register your boat would exceed the $5 savings. Perhaps you should have mentioned that in order to enjoy 100% of the savings you would need to walk to Marine Patrol HQ to register your boat.

Maybe WalMart will put in a discount boat registration counter!

PS. There are no sidewalks on Route 11.

fatlazyless
12-04-2015, 08:37 PM
Ok ....... well, how about getting there to the MP-HQ to re-register my boats, saving $5/boat off the local price ..... and getting there on my C&L Echo, an 11'11" sailboat, not including the rudder .....it does not need to get registered ...... and the wind is free.....and more likely to be windy now...thanks to the global warming!

Descant
12-05-2015, 04:38 PM
I like that when I register with a matina or town, the town gets some money to maintain public docks, fireboats, launch ramps, etc.

Misha888
12-07-2015, 07:34 PM
it's done. 7:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and even some nights and Saturday's are already getting old. With the amount of aggregate and huge rock removal that's been done, I'd be surprised if it was really 'sinking'.

And how much are they paying (1) person to collect fees that can be done elsewhere? My apologies, I forgot it's about job creation.

Marine Patrol
12-07-2015, 10:35 PM
it's done. 7:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and even some nights and Saturday's are already getting old. With the amount of aggregate and huge rock removal that's been done, I'd be surprised if it was really 'sinking'.

And how much are they paying (1) person to collect fees that can be done elsewhere? My apologies, I forgot it's about job creation.

Misha888-

The Marine Patrol has only approved three days outside of a typical workweek for the project since its start. The Friday after Thanksgiving which is not a day off for many, and two Saturdays for the placement of concrete forms (no heavy construction equipment except form trucks). On two occasions heavy equipment excavators and a crane were delivered on a Saturday but no construction activity was allowed.

To the best of my knowledge, aside from water pumps running after hours, no construction activity has gone beyond allowable hours. FYI, Marine Patrol must approve construction work outside of normal hours.

The Marine Patrol and its Construction Manager, Harvey Construction, have made it clear to our neighbors, island residents, and the Town of Gilford, we intend to have as little impact on them as possible during this project. We have had regular communication with those concerned, monitored dust and debris around vehicles and boats, and maintained safe access to town property. However, from your post it sounds like we are not hearing from everyone. If you have experienced construction at night or anything beyond what was described above, I would appreciate hearing from you. 603-293-2037. Thank you!

Safe Boating!!

Tim Dunleavy
Captain-Marine Patrol

Phantom
12-08-2015, 07:38 AM
Nice touch Captain - to chime in !

And shows other (newer) Forum members that the Marine Patrol actually is watching this forum and takes comments to heart !


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Slickcraft
12-08-2015, 01:44 PM
We were taking a look today after lunch at the Lyon's Den just as Capt Dunleavy arrived to take a look himself. He took the time to give us an update and said to call him should we ever have any questions. Last summer he gave the Gilford Island Assoc a detailed briefing on the project which was much appreciated.

Looks like the concrete work is done including the deep footings/walls for the waterfront and covered docking. Steel work to start in about 3 weeks.

RLW
12-19-2015, 09:09 PM
The purchase of the Downing boat ramp and renovation must be being postponed for a good length of time do to construction of the other new facility. How correct am I???

Breakwater
12-20-2015, 12:00 AM
Respectfully you are not correct at all. The Fish & Game Dept. purchased Downing's Landing and will some day renovate I'm sure. Keep in mind that project will be funded by the $5 "public access" portion of your POWER boat registration fees along with some federal funds. Because the primary project on the public access agenda is the state launch on Lake Sunapee...I don't see a lot happening in Alton too soon. Although it may not be complete, Alton is serving the public in its current state.

The Marine Patrol project falls under the Dept. of Safety. It is a capital budget project with bond payments coming from Marine Patrol's operating budget.
Different agencies, budgets, and funding.

noreast
12-20-2015, 09:48 AM
Sunapee should be there priority, It's awful.

Just Sold
12-20-2015, 09:49 AM
Because the primary project on the public access agenda is the state launch on Lake Sunapee...I don't see a lot happening in Alton too soon.

Hers is info on the new Sunapee Public Launch. http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/access/wild-goose.html

HUH
01-19-2016, 10:19 PM
Misha888-

The Marine Patrol has only approved three days outside of a typical workweek for the project since its start. The Friday after Thanksgiving which is not a day off for many, and two Saturdays for the placement of concrete forms (no heavy construction equipment except form trucks). On two occasions heavy equipment excavators and a crane were delivered on a Saturday but no construction activity was allowed.

To the best of my knowledge, aside from water pumps running after hours, no construction activity has gone beyond allowable hours. FYI, Marine Patrol must approve construction work outside of normal hours.

The Marine Patrol and its Construction Manager, Harvey Construction, have made it clear to our neighbors, island residents, and the Town of Gilford, we intend to have as little impact on them as possible during this project. We have had regular communication with those concerned, monitored dust and debris around vehicles and boats, and maintained safe access to town property. However, from your post it sounds like we are not hearing from everyone. If you have experienced construction at night or anything beyond what was described above, I would appreciate hearing from you. 603-293-2037. Thank you!

Safe Boating!!

Tim Dunleavy
Captain-Marine Patrol
LOL... BANG BANG BANG, ALL DAY LONG, WEEKENDS TOO.. It's going to be quite the country club. But it was so necessary :/ BlackBerry black bla..

Misha888
01-19-2016, 10:36 PM
Well, someone is lying to you. Yes, two (I recall three) Saturday's construction was happening. I live directly across the way, I don't imagine these things. Maybe next time I will record it.

And the Friday after Thanksgiving is not a day off for many? This is why all our seasonal neighbors were up that weekend. And in the 30 years I have been in the corporate world, Friday's usually are.

Urinating into the wind here, so have a great day! And enjoy your new office.

p.s. Is that annoying blue strobe going to be a constant?

Misha888-

The Marine Patrol has only approved three days outside of a typical workweek for the project since its start. The Friday after Thanksgiving which is not a day off for many, and two Saturdays for the placement of concrete forms (no heavy construction equipment except form trucks). On two occasions heavy equipment excavators and a crane were delivered on a Saturday but no construction activity was allowed.

To the best of my knowledge, aside from water pumps running after hours, no construction activity has gone beyond allowable hours. FYI, Marine Patrol must approve construction work outside of normal hours.

The Marine Patrol and its Construction Manager, Harvey Construction, have made it clear to our neighbors, island residents, and the Town of Gilford, we intend to have as little impact on them as possible during this project. We have had regular communication with those concerned, monitored dust and debris around vehicles and boats, and maintained safe access to town property. However, from your post it sounds like we are not hearing from everyone. If you have experienced construction at night or anything beyond what was described above, I would appreciate hearing from you. 603-293-2037. Thank you!

Safe Boating!!

Tim Dunleavy
Captain-Marine Patrol

Slickcraft
01-26-2016, 02:44 PM
The steel work has started.

Slickcraft
02-04-2016, 02:51 PM
Starting to take shape:

Slickcraft
03-10-2016, 03:52 PM
And soon a roof

Pineedles
03-10-2016, 04:39 PM
Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

Acrossamerica
03-10-2016, 05:28 PM
Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

I believe that is just the winter Bob House monitoring station. The full Administration building which is six times that size will be started in a few weeks with the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

Slickcraft
03-10-2016, 06:17 PM
Question. Is this building to house all Marine Patrol administrators for the State?

It will be the Marine Patrol operational HQ for the state. Also the main facility for MP boats maintenance and storage. And will have classrooms for boating certificates. Don't know if they will still have some admin down on Rt 106.

Glendale Girl
03-10-2016, 09:04 PM
It will also be home to the State Police,

MeredithMan
03-11-2016, 10:04 AM
When I stopped in to get the boat reg and the mooring permit a couple weeks ago, I said to the lady, "see you next year", as I was leaving. She replied, "you won't see us here...this office is closing and going to the new building"

VitaBene
03-11-2016, 03:55 PM
Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Slickcraft
03-11-2016, 04:04 PM
Slick, do you know if it has an in-water sallyport?

Yes that is one of the new features.

fatlazyless
03-12-2016, 11:07 AM
Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.


Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!


Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

TiltonBB
03-12-2016, 09:19 PM
Wow ..... looks like the State of New Hampshire has a hit a grand slam home run with this new MP-HQ ...... and to top it off .....you get to save five bucks off the price of your boat registration as well..... when you go to the walk-in service window at the new MP-HQ.


Go to your local town hall, or local marina, and you pay a five dollar service charge which is not charged by the Marine Patrol ...... so's what a steal of a deal .....a brand new building with a walk-in service window ....that saves you five!!! For me it seems like the difference between $44 and 39-dollars. Five bucks; that's like two complete lunches at the McDonald's value menu ...... omg!


Register via your town clerk or a marina, and the money gets split between the town and the state. Register with the Marine Patrol, and all the money goes to the State of New Hampshire, and not to your town.

Do not know if the money goes into the general fund, or into the Marine Patrol, or what ... but, like who really cares?

Make sure you ride your bicycle to go register your boat so you can also save that $2 worth of gas!

TiltonBB
03-12-2016, 09:21 PM
It will also be home to the State Police,

The Marine Patrol officers are the State Police.

gokart-mozart
03-14-2016, 09:38 AM
the closing of 28A until June of 2017.

Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Rusty
03-14-2016, 10:01 AM
Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

Don't get him going, he just likes to complain about something...sorta like me but a little worse. :D

chipj29
03-15-2016, 07:59 AM
Can you explain this? 28A (as I understand it) is nowhere near the location.

I believe he was being sarcastic.

MikeM
05-10-2016, 03:58 PM
And soon a roof

is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

TiltonBB
05-10-2016, 04:45 PM
The new building is pretty impressive!

Slickcraft
05-10-2016, 06:21 PM
is this where the pavilion was? I reciently heard the F&G tore down downings landing building. I ran the bait and canvas shop they throughout the 90s.

Well Mike most of this thread has been about the new Marine Patrol building in Glendale, Gilford. Hence my comment a while ago about the new roof.

However another thread did talk about the buildings at Downings Landing being taken down. They are now gone, your old shop only a memory.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20452&highlight=downings+landing
The pavilion burned several years ago and has been rebuilt, now condos and some small shops.

fatlazyless
05-11-2016, 06:45 AM
Such a useful design ........ will be in use for a hundred years or longer..... hey ...... maybe they can name the walk-in service window the 'five dollar window' because it saves you five dollars off your boat registration fee from what you pay at your town clerk or local marina?

Billy Bob
05-11-2016, 07:02 PM
Now this group covers from NewJersey north right ? Tell me this is for more then just New Hampshire !
Hold on , this also houses the casino you all wanted at the weirs !
Actually this would have improved the weirs dramatically , perhaps next winter they can move the building their .

Pine Island Guy
05-18-2016, 09:39 PM
The new building is pretty impressive!

If you judged the building by what's tied up at the docks... you'd think it was an Eastern boat dealership :)

This weather has been a real treat -PIG

Misha888
05-19-2016, 09:14 AM
Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

TiltonBB
05-19-2016, 03:31 PM
Beats being run over on a construction site!

ishoot308
05-19-2016, 03:45 PM
The building is really looking nice!! They definitely did a nice job with the design and its a nice fit for the area! Love the stonework that's going in now.

Ill try and get some pics and post them here.

Dan

NoBozo
05-19-2016, 05:54 PM
Beep, Beep, Beep ... Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

Hoping they give it a freaking break for Memorial Day weekend. Yes, that includes the Friday before.

Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep Beep, Beep, Beep

It's for the Children. Don't need no construction equipment inadvertently crushing children (on recess) under their wheels while backing up. Have a heart.

No one, complaining about the Beeps... EVER Saved a Child. :) NB

ishoot308
05-19-2016, 06:03 PM
Here's a couple pics I just took...

ishoot308
05-19-2016, 06:05 PM
Here's another.....

laketrout
05-23-2016, 11:15 AM
I am sorry. Spend, spend , spend $$ Do respect the Marine Patrol and their thankless "at times job" and all the part timers - teachers , retired folks and young folks that want to work for them.
This building looks bigger then the US Coast Station New Castle New Hampshire. I hear the State trooper just got a new barracks there too..

However Is a $10 Million building really necessary on the Lake? I guess someone pushed it through! Federal Monies and or state monies or both? Must have a nice holding pen or jail in it, education center etc.. to much just IMO.

This reminds me of my hometown of Stratham in 2006 the town voted in (close vote) a 7 million dollar fire station to this day with its 8 full double stalls front and back only 2 or 3 are occupied.

At the least the building has a water view..

Phantom
05-23-2016, 12:02 PM
I think that $10m is short money personally when you consider this is a long overdue STATE HEADQUARTER facility. This new facility (to my understanding) will have offices, training center & classrooms for Boater Ed and other purposes, holding cell(s) as well as Statewide dispatch center in addition to servicing the entire State of NH's Marine fleet.

When you look at this facility from the water, you get a different perspective. At least half (perhaps more) of the physical size of the building is "high bay" construction for boat storage and maintenance.

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Misha888
05-24-2016, 07:02 AM
Beats being run over on a construction site!

How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

TiltonBB
05-24-2016, 09:10 AM
How would they know if someone was yelling?

And you live next to it 5/6 days a week 8 hours a day of it constantly going off. At times there are two or three. Oh, weekends too even though they state they don't do construction then. Model neighbors, indeed.

If someone is running heavy equipment or driving and backing up a truck on a construction site the back up beeper, or bell, is to warn the people working around the machines who may be in the path of the machine. Generally the view to the rear is less than optimum and the back up alarm is for the workers, not the machine operator. The alarms are required by OSHA. Heavy equipment operators have their ability to hear yelling or other verbal direction limited because of the noise generated by the machine. That is why there are standard hand signals related to the operation of loaders, cranes etc.

Flyfisha
05-24-2016, 09:18 AM
Years ago before these safety interventions a flagger was run over and killed while the New London/Sunapee sewer pipeline project was being installed. The alarm noise is a small price to pay in order to keep construction workers safe!
I am sure anyone on the construction site would rather not hear it either!

Orion
05-24-2016, 09:49 AM
My car beeps to me when anything gets within 8'-10' when my car is in reverse. Just put the same sensors on equipment and make the beep loud and external. That will also keep the equipment from backing into things....maybe even add a backup camera. Cheap add-ons for what is very expensive equipment. Calmer nerves, quieter construction sites, etc. etc. etc. Do I have to invent everything? ;)

DickR
05-24-2016, 09:53 AM
While injury to someone in the path of a machine backing up certainly is something to be avoided, I have to wonder about long-term effectiveness of those hated beepers. After a worker on the site hears that loud repetitive beeping, does he tend to tune it out and just revert to normal attentiveness to the machine and what it is doing? Also, does the machine operator tend to assume that the beeping is a guarantee that the path behind is clear and just back up at will? That would be a threat to anyone who hears the beeping but can't get out of the way quickly enough. There aren't any guarantees.

I also have to wonder about whether there might be more effective solutions than typical government-imposed, one-size-fits-all legislation. I imagine the health care insurance companies that have to cough up when someone is injured on the job would be interested. I suspect the liability insurance companies don't care much, if at all, given that meeting legal compliance with the beeper regulation lets them off the hook. Any thoughts as to might be better for all?

Edit: Orion beat me to responding by four minutes, with some good ideas.

Slickcraft
05-26-2016, 08:12 AM
As Phantom has noted, half or more of the building is for boat maintenance and storage.

fltsimguy
05-26-2016, 11:52 AM
Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

PENIVISA
05-26-2016, 12:36 PM
Any plans on a open house?

Descant
05-26-2016, 02:50 PM
Is the MP boat on the left new? Seen the big one in the middle, which seems to rarely leave the dock. Anyone know why they have the larger boats, since they seem to use them very sparingly?

I'd compare it to the Police or Fire Dept. The ladder truck doesn't roll on every call, the tactical command center is not used for patrols. However, in today's world, there's a lot of finger pointing if you fail to "save just one life" because you wanted to save a few dollars. Bigger boat may need a two man crew, and probably burns more fuel, so less suitable for routine patrol.

Just Sold
05-27-2016, 06:53 AM
Had lunch at Shibley's at the Pier on their new deck yesterday. New deck is great and the food top notch! Also NECN was the taking video, but not sure if we will make it into the final cut.

TiltonBB
07-12-2016, 07:33 AM
A lot of progress and the color looks great!

ishoot308
07-12-2016, 08:10 AM
A lot of progress and the color looks great!

Great looking building and a wonderful addition to the area!!

Kudos to the Architect for his design and to Harvey Construction for having one of the cleanest and organized job sites I have ever seen. Never even saw a single piece of paper blowing around!

Dan

Patiently Watching
07-13-2016, 10:50 PM
What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

Reilly
07-14-2016, 04:33 AM
What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

It was only $11 million for the project.:eek::eek::eek::eek:Can't Believe It

Breakwater
07-17-2016, 08:37 PM
What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

Care to explain why this is a waste? Or just an opinion? As someone that looks at this building all season long, I am grateful for the state's approach to its construction. It "fits" the lake and is a tremendous improvement to the area.

As a lifetime boater on Winnipesaukee, I am impressed and proud of the building and glad the state erected a building worthy of being on the shore of our greatest natural resource.

Sure as hell beats their crumbling concrete building and the Quonset hut that was Glendale Marine (no offense to the staff of either building).

bigpatsfan
07-18-2016, 09:58 AM
What a waste of money.

We drove through Laconia, Gilford and West Alton today and it looks like the area is struggling...

Good thing MP has a fancy new building at our expense.

Just curious how you determined that the Gilford, West Alton areas are struggling? What economic data are you looking at?

I am curious as to why you didn't include the rest of the lake in you assessment as the Marine Patrol supports the entire lake. For example, how is the economy in Meridith, Wolfeboro, Alton...etc.

Basically what is your issue?

Is it where the marine patrol building is being built? Should it have been built in Meridith or Wolfeboro?
Is it the cost of the building?
Is it the fact that they are building a new building at all?

GodSmile
07-18-2016, 10:08 AM
I am not a fan of the government building oversized monuments to themselves(my experience in many Massachusetts towns). That said, the old MP building really had become obsolete and needed to be replaced. The new building is, IMHO, nicely done and blends in very well. The MP needed a new facility and I'm glad it shaped up the way it has.

Seaplane Pilot
07-18-2016, 12:35 PM
The architecture of the new Marine Patrol building belongs on Cape Cod, or somewhere else on the ocean. It does not fit the lake's Adirondack style, in my opinion.

A design similar to the Meredith Bay Condos or the Lake House in Meredith would have looked and fit in much better.

rick35
07-18-2016, 08:53 PM
Care to explain why this is a waste? Or just an opinion? As someone that looks at this building all season long, I am grateful for the state's approach to its construction. It "fits" the lake and is a tremendous improvement to the area.

As a lifetime boater on Winnipesaukee, I am impressed and proud of the building and glad the state erected a building worthy of being on the shore of our greatest natural resource.

Sure as hell beats their crumbling concrete building and the Quonset hut that was Glendale Marine (no offense to the staff of either building).

And cudo's to the state for the facelift they gave Hampton Beach a few years ago. We have facilities that we can be proud of and that contribute to the recreation economy of the state.

codeman671
07-19-2016, 10:43 AM
To some extent I have to agree with Seaplane Pilot.

I think the building is gorgeous, rather resort-looking. That being said, it does look a bit more "coastal" in design. I think a nice large Adirondack lodge look would have been more fitting.

Not sure about the other posters post about the area being depressed...The lake is busy, marinas are full, restaurants are packed, and good luck trying to find a rental on the water these days...Everything is booked up.

fatlazyless
07-19-2016, 11:37 AM
Believe this new MP-HQ building will be named in honor of the late David Barrett, MP-commander, and the colors blue, white, and gray seems very appropriate for a Winnipesaukee waterfront, state government building that will likely be in use for many, many, many years.


And don't forget, you save five bucks off the price of your boat registration when you go to the 'five dollar window' in the new MP-HQ as opposed to going to a local marina, or local town hall. Maybe install a permanent sign outside the new MP building ...... "We do registrations for less .... Save 5-bucks!"

Pricestavern
07-19-2016, 12:14 PM
Looks like any number of McMansions around the lake (for good or for bad), so I guess it 'fits in'.

Orion
07-20-2016, 10:22 AM
...
And don't forget, you save five bucks off the price of your boat registration when you go to the 'five dollar window' in the new MP-HQ as opposed to going to a local marina, or local town hall. ....

But can you get there with your [yet] unregistered/expired boat? "But officer, I was just heading to the fi-dolla window."

Just Sold
07-20-2016, 06:12 PM
The architecture of the new Marine Patrol building belongs on Cape Cod, or somewhere else on the ocean. It does not fit the lake's Adirondack style, in my opinion.

A design similar to the Meredith Bay Condos or the Lake House in Meredith would have looked and fit in much better.

I see and understand your post. Natural/stained shakes is a nice look for one's summer or year round home but I think they chose the colors for a different reason.
My observation is that the color blue is for water (or maybe their police function), the grey is the color of the patrol boats with white representing the clouds over the water. Only my opinion but I think it does fit. Also remember they are not only replacing the 2 poor condition structures that were on this site. They are also replacing the large building on Rt 106 in Belmot so everything will now be in one location.

NoBozo
07-20-2016, 06:28 PM
Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land. :look:

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing. :eek: :eek: NB

ishoot308
07-20-2016, 06:35 PM
THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing. :eek: :eek: NB

About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...

NoBozo
07-20-2016, 06:41 PM
About 50 years of construction material and labor costs...


I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

ishoot308
07-20-2016, 07:13 PM
I guess I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain if you can...NB

NB,

You can barely buy a 2000 sq ft home on shore for a million, do you really think that a building of that size and magnitude which includes the purchase of the land and adjacent Glendale Marina is only worth 1 million? Seriously?? The purchase of the adjacent land and nearly falling down Marina building alone was way more than 1 million. The contract for the site work alone would be more than a million!

You would be lucky to build a Fotomat these days for a million...

Dan

Descant
07-20-2016, 08:31 PM
Good response Ishoot308. You need a special structure to move boats around indoors, perhaps a pressurized paint room, mechanics shop, lifts / marine railway. Can't guess what the State Police operation will need, but I expect they'll have some functions in this building.
The bid specs are public information for anybody who cares to inquire.

Reilly
07-21-2016, 04:36 AM
Everyone is offering opinions on the Design of the building. HOW About the COST of the building..?? The town OR the state already owns the land. :look:

THAT building in my opinion is maybe..maybe..... a ONE Million dollar building. I think someone mentioned it cost 11 Million. WHAT Am am I missing. :eek: :eek: NB

approx 2 million was for the purchase of glendale marine.so approx. 9 million for that building sounds high ? but 1 million is the price of a house.

fatlazyless
07-21-2016, 08:25 AM
The new MP building is a super-duper design for what it is, a state government home and headquarters for the MP.

What is not so nice is the helter skelter layout of the property lots in the immediate area. For this mish mash mess of 'no town planning' the reason is there were basically no ZONING rules in Gilford until approximately 1985. Zoning rules did not exist here until it was too late, and the results are there to see.

Zoning turned out to be a solution, and not a problem, except it came too late to Gilford.

NoBozo
07-21-2016, 09:25 AM
I stand corrected. I had no idea that a marine business was bought to make more room for this complex. I assumed the property was already owned by the state or town. My Bad. :eek: NB

codeman671
07-21-2016, 12:24 PM
http://laconiadailysun.com/index.php/newsx/local-news/83763-marine-patrol-hq

This may have already been posted, but the above link gives details on the true project scope. The facility is 32k+sqft. Lots of class A office space and a complete maintenance facility with indoor crane, reconfigured drive in docking, etc.

The intangibles such as stormwater management, expanded parking, etc that one doesn't think of really jump the price as well.

Pineedles
07-21-2016, 01:01 PM
I like the design of the building. I was wondering if there was a floor plan? Any pictures of the interior?

Just Sold
08-13-2016, 03:01 PM
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08-13-2016, 04:54 PM
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fatlazyless
08-13-2016, 05:26 PM
Seems like the Town of Gilford could do a better job of landscaping around the edges and over all beautifying their islander parking lot for just a little effort so's it would not be looking so shabby ...... just to keep up with their new neighbor, the MP-HQ.

HUH
08-14-2016, 09:07 PM
All done and lit up like a holiday tree /:

Barney Bear
08-15-2016, 06:45 PM
With two stars at the top of the tree!!! 🌲 ⭐️ 🌟

GBGX2
08-16-2016, 05:20 PM
What a wonderful view! 12197

fatlazyless
08-17-2016, 06:32 AM
And, such a deal, you save five dollars, the five dollar service fee, off the price of your boat registration, compared to what you pay at your local town hall, or local marina, when you process the paper work at this new MP-HQ.

Just park your car in a designated MP visitor parking space, walk in to their walk-in service window, and check out the new 10-million dollar building .... gimme five! ....what a deal! The new MP-HQ treats you like a champion, or something!:D


Who knows .....maybe they can also raise some additional revenue by selling MP refrigerator magnets, MP bumper stickers, and MP coffee mugs....like, why k-not! ..... with pictures of different patrol boats and such? ...... people could spend the five they just saved on a small oval, bumper sticker pictured, patrol launch, or a coffee mug!

And besides, purchasing an MP coffee mug or frig magnet, helps support the MP, and is a motivator to go there to register your boat.

I want a coffee mug with a picture of a MP patrol boat on it.......!!!

Superduty1
08-17-2016, 09:06 AM
All of New Hampshire should be proud of this new facility. With so many government dollars wasted on non-performing projects, this was a long time coming. As far as I am concerned the men and woman who protect and serve us on a daily basis are under paid and at least deserve a great facility to work in. I would be proud to show my friends who visit this state the building and the dedication New Hampshire puts into it's state! Congrats on a job well done!

noreast
08-17-2016, 10:11 AM
I agree with the sentiment on the first responders but I do get a little queasy when a government building Is the nicest in an area. A little Stalinesque. My dumb question is, Can the public launch and park there? I assume the answer is yes. It is a spectacular building.

ishoot308
08-17-2016, 10:16 AM
Can the public launch and park there? I assume the answer is yes. It is a spectacular building.

No, as the launch there is owned by the town of Gilford not the State and only resident taxpayers can launch there....

Lots of other launch sites in the area however...West Alton marina, Silver sands Marina, Fays, to name just a few...

Dan

fatlazyless
08-17-2016, 10:27 AM
About maybe two years ago, the NH Fish & Game purchased the smallish Downing's Landing for 1-million dollars, located at the very southern most tip of Alton Bay which is the southern most point of Lake Winnipesaukee, and have made it a free to use, boat launch and trailer parking spot ...... free to anyone .... free to park .... free to launch.....no attendant is present. Understand the ramp dock is still very wobbly....and the parking lot gets filled up early and fast. Not sure about the launch ramp's, under water condition?

At the Gilford town docks, immediately close to the new MP-HQ building.....you need a Gilford town sticker (residents and property tax payers) to launch a boat or park your car.

The MP-HQ does have a small number of designated visitor parking spots, close to the new building, for someone going inside to register a boat with the state....plus the MP charges five dollars less for your boat registration than at a local town hall, or local marina...... known locally as the 'Gimme Five Window!'

Seaplane Pilot
08-17-2016, 01:04 PM
Look at those waterfront decks! Man, they should open a bar & restaurant there, with tables and umbrellas out on that nice deck. The State is already in the liquor business, so licensing would be a no-brainer. Dock space available at MP, as well as Glendale docks.

Seems like a win-win to me. And like FLL said, you can register your boat there as well.

GBGX2
08-17-2016, 02:08 PM
About maybe two years ago, the NH Fish & Game purchased the smallish Downing's Landing for 1-million dollars, located at the very southern most tip of Alton Bay which is the southern most point of Lake Winnipesaukee, and have made it a free to use, boat launch and trailer parking spot ...... free to anyone .... free to park .... free to launch.....no attendant is present. Understand the ramp dock is still very wobbly....and the parking lot gets filled up early and fast. Not sure about the launch ramp's, under water condition?

At the Gilford town docks, immediately close to the new MP-HQ building.....you need a Gilford town sticker (residents and property tax payers) to launch a boat or park your car.

The MP-HQ does have a small number of designated visitor parking spots, close to the new building, for someone going inside to register a boat with the state....plus the MP charges five dollars less for your boat registration than at a local town hall, or local marina...... known locally as the 'Gimme Five Window!'

See the thread here that talks about the "repairs" that were done to the Downing Site: http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20516&highlight=Alton+Boat+Launch

TiltonBB
10-08-2016, 06:21 AM
From the Laconia Sun: The new Marine Patrol will be open by the end of the month.

http://laconiadailysun.com/newsx/local-news/98615-town-will-charge-marine-patrol-for-sewer

fatlazyless
10-08-2016, 06:54 AM
So's, if the Town of Gilford decides to raise its price on the metered sewerage that comes out the new MP-HQ building, then the State of NH can raise it price on the water released by the Lakeport Dam that's used to process the sewerage at the Franklin sewerage processing facility.

One hand washes the other ...... or something like that?

BroadHopper
10-08-2016, 07:35 AM
When is the dedication ceremony for the safety building?

Patiently Watching
10-10-2016, 01:49 AM
A monument to wasteful bureaucrats.

The marine patrol should all be fired.

Descant
10-10-2016, 12:30 PM
A monument to wasteful bureaucrats.

The marine patrol should all be fired.

I think we get good value for our tax dollars. Although Marine Patrol makes proposals for what they need, they don't have direct access to funds for whatever they want. The Department of Administrative Services proposes a capital budget to the House Public Works Committee. They balance all capital (bonded) needs and submit this bill to the House, then to the Senate. In any given budget cycle, there may be $400MM in requests, and we can afford about $80MM. When that bill (HB25) passes, Admin Services puts things out to bid, not Safety or MP. When they have a suitable bid, it goes to the Executive Council for approval. There are a lot of watchful eyes in this process. Yes, some bureaucrats, but many elected officials too. You can fire them every two years. Since it's NH and we have 400 state reps, you could be one if you like.

ishoot308
10-10-2016, 12:50 PM
Someone correct if I am wrong but...I thought that the previous Head of Marine patrol David Barrett, had the insight for the need of a new building in the near future and requested from the state and had imposed a small fee on all NH boat registrations. This fee over the years eventually added up and nearly covered the cost of the new building. Unfortunately this money was put into the "general" fund where it was raided and spent by our current Governor.

So is it true that Mr Barrett did in fact raise the funds for the new building so as not to hit the people of NH with an added tax burden?? Was this money placed in the General fund and then raided??

Thanks;

Dan

Breakwater
10-10-2016, 02:56 PM
Dave Barrett had over $3 million saved in the non-lapsing Navigation Safety Fund after saving for many years. Under house speaker Bill O'Brien the legislature passed a law making the fund lapsing, and moved the balance into the general fund.

Two years later the legislature reversed the actions of the previous and the Navigation Safety Fund is again non-lapsing. It will be the source for bond payments for the new building.

Therefore, payments come from boat registration money only. No "tax payers" (unless they register a boat) are affected by the building.

Link to law change below:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...11/HB0002.html

ishoot308
10-10-2016, 04:20 PM
Dave Barrett had over $3 million saved in the non-lapsing Navigation Safety Fund after saving for many years. Under house speaker Bill O'Brien the legislature passed a law making the fund lapsing, and moved the balance into the general fund.

Two years later the legislature reversed the actions of the previous and the Navigation Safety Fund is again non-lapsing. It will be the source for bond payments for the new building.

Therefore, payments come from boat registration money only. No "tax payers" (unless they register a boat) are affected by the building.

Link to law change below:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...11/HB0002.html

Ok perfect, thank you Breakwater... so all the crap about it being a burden on the taxpayers is just that crap!!

The building was badly needed and well deserved. For heaven sake the old one was sinking in the water and in need of much structural repair. The new building is a welcome addition to the area!

Thank you Director Barrett and may you Rest In Peace!

Dan

Descant
10-10-2016, 04:42 PM
Unfortunately this money was put into the "general" fund where it was raided and spent by our current Governor.

So is it true that Mr Barrett did in fact raise the funds for the new building so as not to hit the people of NH with an added tax burden?? Was this money placed in the General fund and then raided??

Thanks;

Dan

Mostly correct. The budget in question was in 2011 (Item 79 in the budget trailer bill, HB2). John Lynch was the Governor, not our current governor.

fatlazyless
10-10-2016, 06:41 PM
Dave Barrett had over $3 million saved in the non-lapsing Navigation Safety Fund after saving for many years. Under house speaker Bill O'Brien the legislature passed a law making the fund lapsing, and moved the balance into the general fund.

Two years later the legislature reversed the actions of the previous and the Navigation Safety Fund is again non-lapsing. It will be the source for bond payments for the new building.

In about 2011 Speaker of the House Bill O'Brien and his fellow Republican state representative supporters were able to lower the fee for registering a car by about $30/ 2-year registration period. As a result of the decrease in this funding, the NH Dept of Transportation was not able to maintain their 750-miles of un-numbered state local roads, all across the state, which included the one mile long Barnard Ridge Rd, and the 4-mile long Meredith Neck Rd, both in Meredith. So, for about three years, from 2012 to October-2015, both roads were in miserable, rough, mega potholed, worn out shape courtesy of Speaker of the House Bill O'Brien and his supporting Republican state reps.

:eek:Let me tell you, that sure enough was a no-good Republican road! Dat dere road was nuth'n but potholes ...... I tell's ya!:eek:

www.concordmonitor.com/Farewell-to-Bill-Obrien-NH-politics-4347547

Concord Monitor, August 28, 2016: "Katy Burns: Buh-bye, Bill O'Brien" ...... Republican Majority Caucus unpaid $7800 office rent for Concord office .....

Considering what happened with the funding for the new MP-HQ building ..... it's very very good this new state building is almost completed, and will soon be occupied, and in use for what could be the next hundred years. It's looks to be a very attractive and functional new home for the NH Marine Patrol. Dave Barrett had a super plan!

Such a great looking building, plus you save five dollars at the walk-in window compared to what you pay to register your boat at your local town hall, or marina, plus 100% of the registration money goes to the State of NH, as opposed to 50%-town and 50%-state. No five dollar service fee at the MP-HQ walk-in window.

SIKSUKR
10-11-2016, 12:24 PM
A monument to wasteful bureaucrats.

The marine patrol should all be fired.

Do people actually read what they post before they send it?:eek:

Descant
11-18-2016, 09:55 PM
I understand the ribbon cutting/dedication is Tuesday, Nov 29. Glendale will bed swarming with State Police, locals and County. Drive carefully. The car you cut off may be a cop. Or worse, a reporter, and you'll be on the PM news.

Nevertheless, this honorarium to Safety Services Director Dave Barrett has been a long time coming. It will serve all of the Lakes Region, and it will benefit us as well as the MP. We should all be proud of our law enforcement folks. BZ. Fly the BZ flags on Tuesday, Nov. 29.

Barney Bear
11-29-2016, 08:45 AM
Dedication of the new marine patrol building is scheduled for 10.00 this morning. ⚓️

BroadHopper
11-29-2016, 08:52 AM
Been looking for the announcement on NH.GOV and other news media.

Barney Bear
11-29-2016, 09:36 AM
I heard this announcement on WMUR Channel 9 this morning. 📺

Descant
11-29-2016, 05:43 PM
It was posted here on 11/18. (#104 "Grand Opening") I'd guess there were 100 people there. Gov. Hassan spoke, but I don't know if her schedule is publicly broadcast for security purposes.

Just Sold
12-02-2016, 06:49 PM
Here are a couple of photos of the new MP building I took today. Rainbow was a freebie from the lake gods.

Scott's Yott
12-05-2016, 04:19 PM
That place cost more than the pot of gold at the end of that rainbow:laugh:

ApS
12-06-2016, 04:37 AM
That place cost more than the pot of gold at the end of that rainbow:laugh:'Seems Public Safety buildings should be simpler designs, especially as taxpayers are footing the bill.

Here's most of Miami-Dade County P.D.'s Taj Mahal, built in 1989:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/chipmunkwhisperer/Fullscreen%20capture%201232016%2022218%20AM.bmp_zp st7nxffgx.jpg

Too "out-there" for Hollywood, CSI-Miami borrowed the more modest Hawthorne California PD Building for its screen sets instead!

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/chipmunkwhisperer/Fullscreen%20capture%201232016%2023146%20AM.bmp_zp sbsyg2rzp.jpg

Yes, the sign was altered for the TV show:

http://www.seeing-stars.com/locations/CSIMiamiCrimeLab.jpg

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noreast
12-06-2016, 02:15 PM
There hoping an earth quake will straighten it out.

HUH
01-02-2017, 06:46 AM
Now that the monument to wasteful government spending is complete. Wondering if the 20 or so outside lights will ever be turned off? Glendale bay lit up like a Christmas tree 24/7 365.
Someone please give me a good reason for this :rolleye1: