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Jimbo
03-26-2004, 09:43 PM
Has everyone applied for there Personal Watercraft Lift Permit? A new law since 1/1/04. WOW!!

Jimbo

Permit By Notification Project #10 INSTALLATION OF A SEASONAL PERSONAL WATERCRAFT LIFT DOES YOUR PROJECT QUALIFY FOR PBN? A project involving the installation of a seasonal personal watercraft lift will qualify for PBN only if it meets all of the requirements outlined in Rule Wt 303.04 (ad): Installation of a seasonal personal watercraft lift, provided the personal watercraft lift is: 1. Installed immediately adjacent to a dock, in a legally existing boat slip, or if there are no other personal watercraft lifts on the frontage, a maximum of 2 lifts installed immediately adjacent to one another and along the owner’s shoreline. 2. Removed during the non-boating season. 3. Located at least 20 feet from an abutting property line or the imaginary extension of the property line over the water. 4. Installed in a manner that creates no impacts that would require further permit action; and 5. Located on a parcel of land that has at least 75 feet of shoreline frontage. If your project does not meet all of the criteria of this rule, the project does not qualify for PBN. Please contact DES for additional guidance relative to appropriate permitting process. By signing the PBN form you are certifying that your project meets all of these criteria. The removal, repair or replacement, and re-installation of a legally existing seasonal structures do not require a DES permit provided there is no change in size, location or configuration. SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS In addition to the general attachments required on the PBN form the following information is required for projects involving installation of seasonal personal watercraft lifts. Failure to provide this information may result in the disqualification of your project from the PBN process. Please contact DES at (603) 271-2147 if you need clarification regarding any of this. Example plans may be available for your project type. ý Setback waiver: If any portion of the boatlift will be located within 20 feet of a property line your project does not comply with requirement # 3 in “Does Your Project Qualify for PBN?” and is therefore disqualified from the PBN process. You may apply for a permit using a Minimum Impact Expedited application.
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v.12/12/2003
NOTIFICATION CONDITIONS FOR PBN PROJECT #10
Installation of Seasonal Personal Watercraft Lift
If you are not able to comply with all of the conditions listed below, your project does not qualify for the PBN process. We strongly recommend that you discuss this information with your contractor. By signing the PBN form you are certifying that you understand all of these conditions and will adhere to them. Failure to adhere to these conditions may result in DES pursuing enforcement against you and/or your contractor. If you need clarification, please contact DES at (603) 271-2147. 1. The completed and signed PBN form shall be posted at the site prior to commencement of the project. 2. All work shall be conducted in accordance with plans dated ___/___/___*, submitted with the PBN Form (*Record the date of the plan here for future reference). 3. This permit shall not be effective until it has been recorded with the county Registry of Deeds Office by the Permittee. A copy of the registered permit shall be submitted to the DES Wetlands Bureau prior to construction. 4. Machinery shall not be located within surface waters. All work must be conducted from the top of the bank. 5. Work shall not cause violations (sedimentation and turbidity) of surface water quality standards, in accordance with Env-Ws 1700. 6. Work authorized shall be carried out such that discharges in spawning or nursery areas during spawning seasons shall be avoided, and impacts to such areas shall be avoided or minimized to the maximum extent practicable during all times of the year. 7. Work shall be carried out in a time and manner such that disturbance to migratory waterfowl breeding areas and fish spawning areas shall be avoided. 8. These shall be the only structures on this water frontage and all portions of the structures shall be at least 20 feet from abutting property lines or the imaginary extension of those lines into the water. 9. All seasonal structures shall be removed from the lake for the non-boating season (a minimum of 5 months for seasonal structures). 10. No portion of the lift shall be located more than 30 feet from the shoreline at full lake elevation if the lift will be installed on a river or lake or pond less than 1,000 acres in size, or more than 40 feet from the shoreline at full lake elevation if the lift will be installed on a lake or pond greater than 1,000 acres in size. 11. Appropriate turbidity controls shall be installed prior to construction, shall be maintained during construction such that no turbidity escapes the immediate work area, and shall remain until suspended particles have settled and the water at the work site has returned to normal clarity. 12. Any further alteration of areas on this property that are within the jurisdiction of the DES Wetlands Bureau will require a new application and further permitting by the Bureau. 13. All activity shall be in accordance with the Comprehensive Shoreland Protection Act, RSA 483-B. 14. Within 10 calendar days following the completion of the project, you shall submit photographs to DES, which depict the areas where the impact occurred. Mount or print dated and labeled photos on 8-1/2” x 11” sheets of paper and mail or send electronically to the DES Wetlands Bureau (a Confirmation of Project Completion form is included for your use).
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Treerider
03-27-2004, 07:44 AM
LOL what next? I think all these years of NH being next to the Peoples Republik of Mass is starting to rub off...

jhr
03-27-2004, 11:49 AM
Soon, there will be no political division between MA and NH. I hate the liberal thinking in MA ... and I live here. More & more of these jokers are migrating north.

Lift permits? Thats nothing. Just you wait ... within 10 years there is going to be a horsepower/boat length restriction on the lake ..... I'd put money on it.

Fortunately, I use a jetdock, not a lift. But, I'm sure the wannabees will find a way to screw that up, too.

Treerider
03-27-2004, 01:28 PM
Remember tho, the NH legislators are the ones passing this FOOLISHNESS, NOT people in MAss. What is wrong with the NH people that they would allow foolishness like these laws???

Treerider
03-27-2004, 01:33 PM
Re your comment re HP/length restrictions, I agree it is only a matter of time B4 this is suggested....if it has not already, of course it'll be "for the safety of the children". ALL boat owners MUST fight this together, the canoeists must support off shore power boaters as well as the bow riders, otherwise divided they will all fall. Funny, the argument could parallel the gun rights/banners debate...
stick together or lose it all....

Bear Islander
03-27-2004, 01:53 PM
jhr

Bad news, a Jet Dock is considered a PWC lift. And even if it wasn't, it is still a dock and requires a permit.

The only thing that doesn't require a permit is a swim raft and they are trying to change that.

GP1200R
03-27-2004, 02:26 PM
You commented that you have a jetdock. I also have one, and was wondering if you need a permit, or if it was already acceptible to secure a jetdock to an already existing mooring and use it as sort of a floating dock for a PWC. It would be basically an extension of the mooring that I already use to tie PWCs to. I am wondering because I am not planning on putting my wooden docks out this year.

nightrider
03-27-2004, 07:51 PM
It's all about the fees they can squeeze out of the lake front owners. It won't be long before you'll need a permit to use a 6' inflatable raft...extra if it has a beverage holder. How about a swimming entrance and exit fee to cover shoreline damage caused by the raised water level after you dive in and to cover the lake's water loss due to what water remains on your body/bathing suit as you exit. How about a fee for every time you start your boat and for every hour it's running. In addition to the hour-meter, you'd need a start-o-meter. Fees..fees..fees. Time to change the state motto to "Live Fee or Die". Lets get creative here. Anyone else have any ideas on new and creative ways the state can charge fees to lake front property owners??

jolleyroger
03-28-2004, 02:59 PM
money is what drives this foolishness (permits = money)

Tony
03-28-2004, 04:44 PM
How about a view tax, NO WAIT they already have that :(*

lRaven
03-28-2004, 06:42 PM
This does seem like "overkill". In reading the PBN booklet it states that if your "project" is already completed you do not qualify for a PBN. How does this apply to someone who meets all the criteria but has had their PWC Lift for five years?
As to the "project" - this consists of moving the lift from the land into the lake adjacent to the dock come summer and removing it to land in Sept. Not sure what form or permit is required.
Does anyone have any info on this?
Thanks for the posting as we had not heard of this new law.

loudon resident
03-29-2004, 10:50 AM
This is not a new law/requirement. There are no new fees required. All seasonal structures (except swim rafts, lines, and moorings) have required permits from the NH Department of Environmental Services since 1978. I'm not aware of any push to require permits for swim rafts. Would the individual who insinuated that this may be a possibility please explain where they had heard this. It's only a new form and process. What your looking at is the text only, from the PWC project specific sheet for use with the new Permit by Notification Form provided by the DES Wetlands Bureau. When you read the formatted version it isn't quite as hard to understand. It is one option available to people seeking permits for minimum impact projects. The previously existing Minimum Impact Expedited and Standard Dredge and Fill form are still valid ways to obtain a permit for the same thing for the same fee. The only differences are potential hold over time locally before its is filed with the state and whether or not you actually receive a hard copy permit in the mail. As for the use of the Permit by Notification process with after the fact installation of seasonal watercraft lifts. If you take the lift out for the winter, and then file the form during the off season while isn't in the water, it isn't considered after the fact.

Bear Islander
03-30-2004, 12:00 AM
Loudon Resident

Last summer I was talking to the person at the Marine Patrol that takes care of Mooring Permits. She told me they were writing up a proposal for swim raft permits.

loudon resident
03-30-2004, 08:01 AM