View Full Version : Nh sb 11....
Lakesrider
05-20-2013, 07:01 AM
Hope you're ready.....:rolleye1:
http://www.nhliberty.org/bills/view/2013/SB11
This includes....EVERYONE! Not just those on a water and sewer system......EVERYONE.
Lakegeezer
05-20-2013, 07:20 AM
I don't get it. What do you mean by everyone? The bill is long, so perhaps I missed the legal loophole, but it seems that voters need to define the water and sewer district and only users in the district are responsible for the costs. What's new?
HellRaZoR004
05-20-2013, 08:02 AM
cliff notes version?
Pineedles
05-20-2013, 08:12 AM
Unless the municipalities are establishing districts that are presently not being served by a water or sewer system, it would appear that someone using well/lake water and a septic system would not be affected.
"The assessments and fees shall be made against the owners or users, or both, of properties in the water and/or sewer utility district and shall be based upon a formula determined by the municipality to be in relative proportion to benefits received by each property owner or user, or both, in the water and/or sewer utility district."
Lakesrider
05-20-2013, 08:30 AM
What the bill says is that a town can have a committee that would be responsible for the development of a sewage system, or water system and bill the land owners for the service provided by the system. The collection of that money will go toward installing a sewage system or water system. I can only imagine that the only way to get enough money to build such a system is to bill people now and collect money for several years to build up the fund.
They want to protect the water sources and to insure that the water stays clean and protected you are going to pay for it. Septic/well or not.
I. For the purposes of this subdivision, the legislative body of any city or town shall have the authority by a majority vote to establish one or more water and/or sewer utility districts and designate a water and/or sewer utility commission to be the governing body to manage the activities of the district.
ANY CITY OR TOWN. (Moultonborough does not have a sewer plant, or water system.)
Read some of the comments here...
http://moultonborospeaks.blogspot.com/2013/05/nh-local-government-center-response-to.html?showComment=1368995612279
Slickcraft
05-20-2013, 09:25 AM
I would take a town meeting vote to create a district in any given town. That would be a long process with public hearings and lots of debate along the way. As this is the standard way that NH towns implement the democratic process at the local level, I don't see what the problem is with this bill.
LIforrelaxin
05-20-2013, 09:39 AM
Ok let me say this, the Moultonborough blog site is taking to much liberty with its comments on this legislation. Now mind you I only skimmed the bill, but really there is nothing in it that really changes anything. I think this legislation was really putting into writing what has been done for years... Someone in some affluent community probably tried to sue water / sewer district because they felt as though they didn't need to be part of it. And in the process pointed at that the fat that there was no legislation giving anyone the right to create a water/sewer district..
Lakesrider
05-20-2013, 10:10 AM
Exactly, and now the first step is in the process. I think people forget that things get passed in legislation sometimes in small steps....and before you know it your rights are gone. This is simply the first step. Remember Agenda 21 is not dead either.....People who do not see what is coming for this Country have their heads in the sand and it is the children of tomorrow that will pay for it.
Just my opinion and millions of others as well....You can think what you want. Just remember I told you so......;)
Bear Islander
05-20-2013, 10:18 AM
Unless the municipalities are establishing districts that are presently not being served by a water or sewer system, it would appear that someone using well/lake water and a septic system would not be affected.
"The assessments and fees shall be made against the owners or users, or both, of properties in the water and/or sewer utility district and shall be based upon a formula determined by the municipality to be in relative proportion to benefits received by each property owner or user, or both, in the water and/or sewer utility district."
I think most of you are missing the point.
When a municipality puts in water or sewer systems and runs it down your street you must pay a large fee. Usually thousands of dollars. You must pay the assessment even if you don't want it, and don't connect to it. It is a "betterment" to you property. In the long run you will be forced to pay it.
You can save a little money by not paying to have the water or sewer connected from the street to you home.
They can also assess this fee to empty lots. In some cases the assessment could be more than the value of the property.
fatlazyless
05-20-2013, 10:32 AM
About six miles away, is the distance from my place to the closest fire hydrant at Pleasant St and Meredith Neck Rd.....oh please please please....will the town please run some town water down by my way....it would be so much easier that buying water at 25-cents/gallon over at the Gilford Hannaford...plus it would be one less reason why it does not qualify for a reverse mortgage!
If not possible....then maybe the Meredith Hannaford could install a water vending machine?
And, as long as they is building a water line, maybe they could throw in a sewer line too, and repave the state-owned Meredith Neck Rd which is all falling apart? With all the new money to be soon rolling in from gambling casinos.....it all will soon get done.....dontcha-u-just-a-know-it-buddy!
75-billion gallons of water in the Big Lake, all waving around out there....and not-a-one-drop-a town water-to-a-drinka! ...which is probably a very good thing! Who do u trust? ... the town water system or the Hannafords vending machine that is hooked up to town water?
BroadHopper
05-20-2013, 11:16 AM
I think most of you are missing the point.
When a municipality puts in water or sewer systems and runs it down your street you must pay a large fee. Usually thousands of dollars. You must pay the assessment even if you don't want it, and don't connect to it. It is a "betterment" to you property. In the long run you will be forced to pay it.
You can save a little money by not paying to have the water or sewer connected from the street to you home.
They can also assess this fee to empty lots. In some cases the assessment could be more than the value of the property.
I found this out the hard way. I was a homeowner in Dracut, Mass when the town decided to run both water and sewer up my street. Everyone was accessed almost $10,000 to hook up to sewer and water. This does not include the $thousands of dollars to pay an independent contractor to hook up to the town pipes!
To top this all off, septic tank owners were told to replace their septic a few years earlier when the state pass new laws governing drainage.
The frosting on the cake was I had to fill the artesian well with stone dust when I wanted to use it for irrigation!
I hope NH does not follow the same path.
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