When was Lake Winnipesaukee "Established"

JasonG · 11-04-2014, 05:04 PM

Is there an official date that Lake Winnipesaukee was "established"?
Similar to a town's incorporation date, I am wondering if the lake has something like that?

Sal · 11-04-2014, 05:09 PM

Right after the glacier melted . . . .

Pine Island Guy · 11-04-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonG

Is there an official date that Lake Winnipesaukee was "established"?
Similar to a town's incorporation date, I am wondering if the lake has something like that?

Misty Blue and another Lake Brother and I were just talking about that this past weekend after seeing this t-shirt...

"Established 1632"...

We agreed that it should read "Established 13,000 BC" when the last glacier retreated...

.--. .. --.

Slickcraft · 11-04-2014, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sal

Right after the glacier melted . . . .

Right your are. The only human enhancements were 1st the native Americans that added weirs and stone steps and then later a dam was built to add a few feet to the depth. The lake is 99 44/100 Mother Nature. Now let's don't spoil it!

fatlazyless · 11-05-2014, 07:16 PM

Didn't the Lakeport Dam add 18' of depth when first built at its' present location in 1822, and before that, Lake Winnipesaukee was seven different smaller water bodies interconnected by a stream outflow that fluctuated seasonally and with any rain......sure that's correctimondo....and that's the way it was!

SIKSUKR · 11-06-2014, 10:58 AM

In this thread you state the same info.http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...d.php?p=142795

Here is Bizers response which I totally agree with.

While possible, that seems unlikely. It may have raised the level of Paugus Bay by 18 feet, but not the entire lake. The Weirs channel (which extends from Weirs Beach to Naswa) is about four feet deep. Hence, the main part of the lake could only drop by four feet at most. At that level (and lower) there is no way for water to exit the lake.

Billy Bob · 11-06-2014, 12:57 PM

It was a Tuesday , I forget the year

RLW · 11-06-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Bob

It was a Tuesday , I forget the year

I beg to differ with you. It was on a Sunday just before noon as I was standing by one of the signers of the document. The year you are thinking it was, is correct.

Misty Blue · 11-14-2014, 04:45 PM

Call Emerson Aviation. If Dave can figure out ice out.....

Misty Blue

Lakegeezer · 11-14-2014, 05:05 PM

The Laconia Citizen had an article about the spelling, in 2008. It referenced an article from 1933 that claims that 1877 was the first establishment of the Winnipesaukee spelling. However, the Carroll County map by H.F. Walling, published in 1861 by Smith and Peavey, has Winnipesaukee spelled out as we know it today.

tis · 11-14-2014, 06:15 PM

I do know that my mother said her parents and grandparent's could just as well have done without the lake. They used to refer to it as the pond and they really didn't have an awful lot of use for it. However, my mother did learn to swim in the lake. So they must have done some enjoyable things with the lake.

We had some old letters in my parent's house (not the same where my mother grew up) that a Dr friend from Boston had written back and forth discussing whether they should build a camp -if there would be a market to rent it. I think the Doctor's letters were dated early 1900s. So I would guess before 1900 the lake was not really used much recreationally if they had to have a discussion if it would be successful or not.

The house where we grew up had once been a boarding house I guess you would call it. The people often came from Boston to Alton Bay by train and took a boat to Wolfeboro. So the lake was used for transportation. And of course houses were moved all over the lake on the ice.

JasonG · 11-16-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

The Laconia Citizen had an article about the spelling, in 2008. It referenced an article from 1933 that claims that 1877 was the first establishment of the Winnipesaukee spelling. However, the Carroll County map by H.F. Walling, published in 1961 by Smith and Peavey, has Winnipesaukee spelled out as we know it today.

So as far as the spelling goes, Lake Winnipesaukee was established in 1898

Lakegeezer · 11-16-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonG

So as far as the spelling goes, Lake Winnipesaukee was established in 1898

oops - I added 100 years to the date of that Walling map from 1861. Here is the link to the map, zoomed in so you can see the spelling.

11-04-2014, 05:04 PM	#1
JasonG Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 310 Thanks: 48 Thanked 45 Times in 33 Posts	When was Lake Winnipesaukee "Established" Is there an official date that Lake Winnipesaukee was "established"? Similar to a town's incorporation date, I am wondering if the lake has something like that?

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Didn't the Lakeport Dam add 18' of depth when first built at its' present location in 1822, and before that, Lake Winnipesaukee was seven different smaller water bodies interconnected by a stream outflow that fluctuated seasonally and with any rain......sure that's correctimondo....and that's the way it was! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

11-06-2014, 10:58 AM	#6
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	You have a short memory In this thread you state the same info.http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...d.php?p=142795 Here is Bizers response which I totally agree with. While possible, that seems unlikely. It may have raised the level of Paugus Bay by 18 feet, but not the entire lake. The Weirs channel (which extends from Weirs Beach to Naswa) is about four feet deep. Hence, the main part of the lake could only drop by four feet at most. At that level (and lower) there is no way for water to exit the lake. __________________ SIKSUKR

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Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	Ask Emerson... Call Emerson Aviation. If Dave can figure out ice out..... Misty Blue

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Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Perhaps Winnipesaukee spelling "established" in 1861 The Laconia Citizen had an article about the spelling, in 2008. It referenced an article from 1933 that claims that 1877 was the first establishment of the Winnipesaukee spelling. However, the Carroll County map by H.F. Walling, published in 1861 by Smith and Peavey, has Winnipesaukee spelled out as we know it today. __________________ -lg Last edited by Lakegeezer; 11-16-2014 at 03:50 PM. Reason: Correct date from 1961 to 1861 - oops

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Sal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 311 Thanks: 103 Thanked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Right after the glacier melted . . . .

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tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,404 Thanks: 719 Thanked 1,379 Times in 955 Posts	I do know that my mother said her parents and grandparent's could just as well have done without the lake. They used to refer to it as the pond and they really didn't have an awful lot of use for it. However, my mother did learn to swim in the lake. So they must have done some enjoyable things with the lake. We had some old letters in my parent's house (not the same where my mother grew up) that a Dr friend from Boston had written back and forth discussing whether they should build a camp -if there would be a market to rent it. I think the Doctor's letters were dated early 1900s. So I would guess before 1900 the lake was not really used much recreationally if they had to have a discussion if it would be successful or not. The house where we grew up had once been a boarding house I guess you would call it. The people often came from Boston to Alton Bay by train and took a boat to Wolfeboro. So the lake was used for transportation. And of course houses were moved all over the lake on the ice.

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