Nasty Boat Registration Surprise!

[Old Sarge]

I just registered my the boat I purchased last year and found that the boat fee has quadrupled this year from $19.84 to $79.36. Thanks Maggie Hassan! I guess boating is like the wedding business, take anything (Cake, dress, invitations etc.) and put the word wedding in front of it and you can jack the price through the roof. So the total to register my boat this year went from $88.34 to $147.88. Outrageous!!!

[NHskier]

While I'm not sure of the reason for your increase, my total registration fee is exactly the same as last year.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Originally Posted by NHskier

While I'm not sure of the reason for your increase, my total registration fee is exactly the same as last year.

Mine was also

[Donzi Minx]

Hmmmmmm......

Is Hassan originally from Massataxus?

I did not pay too much attention, but I think my registration stayed the same as well.

[rsmlp]

Not sure if mine went up but if it did it was incremental. More to the point, NH has NO income tax, NO sales tax and pretty damn low property tax at least relative to other states. They have to get money from somewhere!

[Slickcraft]

If you buy an auto partway into the year, the reg fees are prorated that 1st time. Maybe the same is true for boat reg fees.

[Winnisquamer]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

Not sure if mine went up but if it did it was incremental. More to the point, NH has NO income tax, NO sales tax and pretty damn low property tax at least relative to other states. They have to get money from somewhere!

NH has low property tax? That is new news to me. Last I read NH was like top 5 for highest property tax in the country.

[Merrymeeting]

Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

NH has low property tax? That is new news to me. Last I read NH was like top 5 for highest property tax in the country.

My property taxes in NH are one third higher than what they were in MA

[rsmlp]

Originally Posted by Winnisquamer

NH has low property tax? That is new news to me. Last I read NH was like top 5 for highest property tax in the country.

I live in Moultonboro on the lake and I can tell you that my property tax is 75%
LESS per thousand of assessed value than our house was when we sold it in 2014 in a suburb of Albany, NY.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Slickcraft

If you buy an auto partway into the year, the reg fees are prorated that 1st time. Maybe the same is true for boat reg fees.

Good thinking!! Agreed

[nhboat61]

Registered all 3 vessles, same cost as last year.

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Slickcraft

If you buy an auto partway into the year, the reg fees are prorated that 1st time. Maybe the same is true for boat reg fees.

We bought Upthesaukee Too in July, and the registration was prorated. Nearly doubled the following year! :O

I live here... I am always Upthesaukee.

[DRH]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

Not sure if mine went up but if it did it was incremental. More to the point, NH has NO income tax, NO sales tax and pretty damn low property tax at least relative to other states. They have to get money from somewhere!

NH does have an "income tax" if your income is from interest and/or dividends. That income is taxed at 5.0% every year, which hits people who have tried to put away a nest egg for retirement.

[Dad sold the C * C]

We bought ours in August last year and registration was prorated, the bill was higher this year.

[Sunbeam lodge]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

Not sure if mine went up but if it did it was incremental. More to the point, NH has NO income tax, NO sales tax and pretty damn low property tax at least relative to other states. They have to get money from somewhere!

They get it from lake front owners property tax

[Woodsy]

Property tax is based on property values... X amount per $1000 of value. Different towns have different values depending on how the town votes to spend tax $$.

Anyway, the more valuable the property, the higher the bill. But be assured, I pay the same amount per thousand as everyone else in Laconia....

Woodsy

[neckdweller]

Originally Posted by rsmlp

I live in Moultonboro on the lake and I can tell you that my property tax is 75%
LESS per thousand of assessed value than our house was when we sold it in 2014 in a suburb of Albany, NY.

Moultonborough is in a class of their own when looking at property taxes because of the huge tax base from lakefront properties. My Moultonborough house is worth roughly twice as much as my house in southern NH but the taxes are slightly less.

The Moultonborough tax rate is the reason the town spends like drunken sailors - they love to quote that tax rate and it provides a great smokescreen to have a bloated infrastructure.

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by Old Sarge

I just registered my the boat I purchased last year and found that the boat fee has quadrupled this year from $19.84 to $79.36. Thanks Maggie Hassan! I guess boating is like the wedding business, take anything (Cake, dress, invitations etc.) and put the word wedding in front of it and you can jack the price through the roof. So the total to register my boat this year went from $88.34 to $147.88. Outrageous!!!

Here are the official numbers from the state in regards to boat fees:

TITLE V
TAXATION


CHAPTER 72-A
BOAT FEE


Section 72-A:3
72-A:3 Amount of Fee. –
I. The boat fee shall be as indicated in the following chart: Age of Boat

Length in Motor New 1 yr old 2 yr old 3 yr old 4 yr old or
feet older
(a) Cruisers
Up to 24 Single $ 112.80 $ 75.20 $ 56.40 $ 37.60 $ 18.80
Up to 24 Twin $ 139.20 $ 92.80 $ 69.60 $ 46.40 $ 23.20
24.1-28 Single $ 154.08 $ 102.72 $ 77.40 $ 51.36 $ 25.68
24.1-28 Twin $ 235.20 $ 156.80 $ 117.60 $ 78.40 $ 39.20
28.1-32 Single $ 265.44 $ 176.96 $ 132.72 $ 88.48 $ 44.24
28.1-32 Twin $ 336.48 $ 224.32 $ 168.24 $ 112.16 $ 56.08
32.1-36 Twin $ 471.36 $ 314.25 $ 235.68 $ 157.12 $ 78.56
36.1-40 Twin $ 617.76 $ 411.84 $ 308.88 $ 205.92 $ 102.96
40.1-44 Gas $ 783.84 $ 522.56 $ 391.92 $ 261.28 $ 130.64
40.1-44 Diesel $ 971.52 $ 647.68 $ 485.76 $ 323.84 $ 161.92
44.1-48 Gas $ 1047.36 $ 698.24 $ 523.68 $ 349.12 $ 174.56
44.1-48 Diesel $ 1324.32 $ 882.88 $ 662.16 $ 441.44 $ 220.72
48.1-52 Diesel $ 1543.20 $ 1028.80 $ 771.60 $ 514.40 $ 257.20
52.1 or Diesel $ 1761.40 $ 1174.40 $ 880.80 $ 587.20 $ 293.60
over
(b) Inboard Runabouts
10-17 $ 49.44 $ 32.96 $ 24.72 $ 16.48 $ 10.00
17.1-20 $ 75.84 $ 50.56 $ 37.92 $ 25.28 $ 12.64
20.1-24 $ 119.04 $ 79.36 $ 59.52 $ 39.68 $ 19.84
24.1-28 $ 188.64 $ 125.76 $ 94.32 $ 62.88 $ 31.44
28.1-32 $ 320.16 $ 213.44 $ 160.08 $ 106.72 $ 53.56
32.1-36 $ 526.08 $ 350.72 $ 263.04 $ 175.36 $ 87.68
36.1-40 $ 610.56 $ 407.04 $ 305.28 $ 203.52 $ 101.76
40.1 or $ 701.28 $ 467.52 $ 350.64 $ 233.76 $ 116.88
over
(c) Outboard with Motor
10-12 Up to 10 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
HP
10-12 10.1-20 HP $ 10.80 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
10-12 20.1 or $ 18.48 $ 12.32 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
over
12.1-16 Up to 10 $ 10.56 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
HP
12.1-16 10.1-50 HP $ 19.44 $ 12.96 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
12.1-16 50.1 or $ 45.36 $ 30.24 $ 22.68 $ 15.12 $ 10.00
over
16.1-18 Up to 10 $ 14.88 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
HP
16.1-18 10.1-50 HP $ 23.76 $ 15.84 $ 11.88 $ 10.00 $ 10.00
16.1-18 50.1-100 $ 34.08 $ 22.72 $ 17.04 $ 11.36 $ 10.00
HP
16.1-18 100.1 or $ 60.00 $ 40.00 $ 30.00 $ 20.00 $ 10.00
over
18.1-22 Up to 100 $ 78.24 $ 52.16 $ 39.12 $ 26.08 $ 13.04
HP
18.1-22 100.1-175 $ 88.80 $ 59.20 $ 44.40 $ 29.60 $ 14.80
18.1-22 175.1 or $ 107.76 $ 71.84 $ 53.88 $ 35.92 $ 17.96
over
22.1-26 Up to 175 $ 128.64 $ 85.76 $ 64.32 $ 42.88 $ 21.44
HP
22.1-26 175.1-300 $ 147.84 $ 98.56 $ 73.92 $ 49.28 $ 24.64
22.1-26 300.1 or $ 182.40 $ 121.60 $ 91.20 $ 60.80 $ 30.40
over
26.1-30 Up to 175 $ 165.60 $ 110.40 $ 82.80 $ 55.20 $ 27.60
HP
26.1-30 175.1-300 $ 182.40 $ 121.60 $ 91.20 $ 60.80 $ 30.40
26.1-30 300.1 or $ 202.56 $ 135.04 $ 101.28 $ 67.52 $ 33.76
over
30.1-over Up to 300 $ 221.76 $ 147.84 $ 110.88 $ 73.92 $ 36.96
30.1-over 300.1-500 $ 262.08 $ 174.72 $ 131.04 $ 87.36 $ 43.68
30.1-over 500.1 or $ 344.10 $ 229.40 $ 172.05 $ 114.70 $ 57.35
over
(d) Pontoon and Houseboats
10-18 O/B $ 32.63 $ 21.75 $ 16.31 $ 10.88 $ 10.00
10-18 I/B or I/O $ 68.26 $ 45.50 $ 34.13 $ 22.75 $ 11.38
18.1-22 O/B $ 44.64 $ 29.76 $ 22.32 $ 14.88 $ 10.00
18.1-22 I/B or I/O $ 78.72 $ 52.48 $ 39.36 $ 26.24 $ 13.12
22.1-26 O/B $ 49.20 $ 32.80 $ 24.60 $ 16.40 $ 10.00
22.1-26 I/B or I/O $ 81.60 $ 54.40 $ 40.80 $ 27.20 $ 13.60
26.1-30 O/B $ 72.72 $ 48.40 $ 36.36 $ 24.24 $ 12.12
26.1-30 I/B or I/O $ 86.40 $ 57.60 $ 43.20 $ 28.80 $ 14.40
30.1 or O/B $ 98.16 $ 65.44 $ 49.08 $ 32.72 $ 16.36
over
30.1-36 I/O $ 125.76 $ 83.84 $ 62.88 $ 41.92 $ 20.96
36.1-40 I/O $ 257.52 $ 171.76 $ 128.76 $ 85.84 $ 42.92
40.1-46 I/O $ 468.72 $ 312.48 $ 234.36 $ 156.24 $ 78.12
46.1-50 I/O $ 628.56 $ 419.04 $ 314.28 $ 209.52 $ 104.76
50.1 or I/O $ 724.32 $ 482.88 $ 362.16 $ 241.44 $ 120.72
over
(e) Sailboats
20.1-24 O/B Aux or $ 62.88 $ 41.92 $ 31.44 $ 29.96 $ 10.48
none
24.1-28 O/B Aux or $ 127.68 $ 85.12 $ 63.84 $ 42.56 $ 21.28
none
24.1-28 I/B Aux $ 138.72 $ 92.48 $ 69.36 $ 46.24 $ 23.12
28.1-32 O/B Aux or $ 222.24 $ 148.16 $ 111.12 $ 74.08 $ 37.04
none
32.1-36 I/B Aux $ 273.12 $ 182.08 $ 136.56 $ 91.04 $ 45.52
36.1-40 I/B Aux $ 411.36 $ 274.24 $ 205.68 $ 137.12 $ 68.56
40.1-44 I/B Aux $ 568.56 $ 379.04 $ 284.28 $ 189.52 $ 94.76
44.1-48 I/B Aux $ 630.00 $ 420.00 $ 315.00 $ 210.00 $ 105.00
48.1-or I/B Aux $ 783.84 $ 522.56 $ 391.92 $ 261.28 $ 130.64
over


II. The minimum boat fee shall be $10.
III. The model year shall be the base year in determining the age of a boat pursuant to this section.
IV. Where reference is made in this section to horsepower (HP), it shall be considered to be shaft horsepower.
V. The designation I/B shall stand for inboard motor, O/B for outboard motor and I/O for inboard/outboard motor as used in this section.
Source. 1978, 12:1. 1979, 484:2. 1981, 323:2, 3. 1988, 198:2. 1990, 229:4, eff. Jan. 1, 1991.

[Major]

My boat registration was the same this year as well.

[chillininnh]

Originally Posted by Old Sarge

I just registered my the boat I purchased last year and found that the boat fee has quadrupled this year from $19.84 to $79.36. Thanks Maggie Hassan! I guess boating is like the wedding business, take anything (Cake, dress, invitations etc.) and put the word wedding in front of it and you can jack the price through the roof. So the total to register my boat this year went from $88.34 to $147.88. Outrageous!!!

I register boats at my place of employment. There must be an error, they don't get more expensive. Boat registration fees actually go down as the boat ages for 5 years (from new) after which the fees remains stagnant unless legislation changes the fee schedule.

[chillininnh]

Originally Posted by Dad sold the C * C

We bought ours in August last year and registration was prorated, the bill was higher this year.

This doesn't happen actually, the state doesn't prorate boat registrations like automobiles. You most likely transferred the credit from your previous boat which would have lowered the cost of last years registration. Whether you register your boat in March or October, you pay the same amount.

[V ger]

The fee schedule posted by MAXUM along with RSA 270-A:1 is very interesting.

RSA 270-A:1 defines a houseboat as "any ship, boat, raft, float, catamaran, or marine craft of any description upon or within which are located sleeping and toilet facilities,....."

Sample registration fees for 1 year old vessels per MAXUM's post

30' House Boat OB $72.72 30' Twin Cruiser $336.48
30' House Boat IB $86.40

It appears that if you were to register your 30' boat equipped as above as a "cruiser" you would be in violation of RSA 270-A:1 as well as paying an extra $250.40 to $263.76.

It is laughable that N.H. thinks an aircraft carrier and the Q.E. II are houseboats but no more so than many of the states other misconstrued definitions of marine terminology and regulations that often increase the danger to N.H's boaters.

[garysanfran]

Never, ever think your government doesn't have enough money!!!

[Ms Molly McKever]

Originally Posted by Major

My boat registration was the same this year as well.

2015 & 2016 the same price
extc aqtc plants $4.00
boat fee $39.20
milfoil fee $5.50
tax coll fee $1.00
registration fee $52.00
srch resc fee $1.00
public acc fee $5.00
-----------
total $107.70

Maxum your numbers are correct right down to penny. Good job

[HellRaZoR004]

So, is any of that fee tax deductible?

[wifi]

Originally Posted by Old Sarge

I just ..... found that the boat fee has quadrupled this year from $19.84 to $79.36. Thanks Maggie Hassan!.....

The Dems have to pay for everyone's "free stuff" with money from someone.

[P-3 Guy]

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004

So, is any of that fee tax deductible?

No, because no part of the registration fee is based on the value of the property.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by wifi

The Dems have to pay for everyone's "free stuff" with money from someone.

Right, and the GOP needs to pay their corporate welfare. Must everything be politicized?

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[Dave R]

Originally Posted by TMI Guy

No, because no part of the registration fee is based on the value of the property.

The "boat fee" portion is based on the size, number of engines, HP and age. The "registration fee" is based on the length and then has fixed add-on charges.

Since the "boat fee" has an age and HP factor, one could easily argue that it is value based, so that portion could be deducted.

See: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...2-A/72-A-3.htm

[ITD]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Right, and the GOP needs to pay their corporate welfare. Must everything be politicized?

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You lose all credibility when you retort with a worn out political meme and then criticize someone for politicization.

[JasonG]

Just did mine, same as last year, too.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ITD

You lose all credibility when you retort with a worn out political meme and then criticize someone for politicization.

But the original "free" comment isn't worn out? Gotcha. And, yes, I called someone out for politicizing a situation that doesn't exist. The fees haven't changed.

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[noreast]

Originally Posted by Old Sarge

I just registered my the boat I purchased last year and found that the boat fee has quadrupled this year from $19.84 to $79.36. Thanks Maggie Hassan! I guess boating is like the wedding business, take anything (Cake, dress, invitations etc.) and put the word wedding in front of it and you can jack the price through the roof. So the total to register my boat this year went from $88.34 to $147.88. Outrageous!!!

Someone owes Maggie an apology.

[Old Sarge]

According to "Americans for Prosperity", Maggie Hassan has raised taxes and fees in the state by $100 million dollars-so no apology. However, I will apologize to the members for interjecting politics into this forum. It should only focus on our love of boating!

[noreast]

Originally Posted by Old Sarge

According to "Americans for Prosperity", Maggie Hassan has raised taxes and fees in the state by $100 million dollars-so no apology. However, I will apologize to the members for interjecting politics into this forum. It should only focus on our love of boating!

Just for the record, I wouldn't apologize either.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

But the original "free" comment isn't worn out? Gotcha. And, yes, I called someone out for politicizing a situation that doesn't exist. The fees haven't changed.

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I said nothing about the "original" comment. I just pointed out the hypocrisy in your post, sorry it irritated you.