What year was the earliest ice in?

chasedawg · 12-06-2014, 09:04 PM

Drove by 19 and 20 Mile Bay. Both had ice a good ways out. I don't ever remember ice starting to form this early in Dec.

When was the earliest official Ice In?

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-06-2014, 09:43 PM

chasedawg:
We had a lot more ice here last November. By November 29 most of the coves were frozen. The water temp here was 38 this morning. We reached 38 degrees on 11/14 last year.
This year seems pretty average for temp and water height.

Here's a link from last years thread...scroll down to the end of November.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ght=Water+temp

CAVU · 12-07-2014, 08:22 AM

Its frozen up by suissevale!! Don't think I would walk on it though..

chasedawg · 12-07-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

chasedawg:
We had a lot more ice here last November. By November 29 most of the coves were frozen. The water temp here was 38 this morning. We reached 38 degrees on 11/14 last year.
This year seems pretty average for temp and water height.

Here's a link from last years thread...scroll down to the end of November.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ght=Water+temp

The older i get.....the easier it is to forget.

Thanks for the reminder.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-07-2014, 10:15 AM

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The older i get.....the easier it is to forget.

Thanks for the reminder.

If I don't write it in a journal it's hard to remember. I do remember everyone being sure it would be a record ice out last year.

RLW · 12-07-2014, 02:19 PM

Where is the listing of all the ice out dates from way back when. I have tried to located now for an hour and can't find it.
Webmaster do you hide it during the off season??

Merrymeeting · 12-07-2014, 02:38 PM

Agreed it is not posted obviously as it usually is during Spring, but a web search of "Winnipesaukee Ice Out" finds,

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/index.php?pageid=iceout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Winnipesaukee_Ice-Out

tis · 12-07-2014, 03:09 PM

It's kind of hard to say when ice in actually is anyway because the bays usually freeze over first, usually skimmed along the edges at least by Thanksgiving and it is usually the 3rd week of Jan before the broads are iced in. So if you are talking about total ice in, it is not usually until that 3rd week in Jan.

webmaster · 12-07-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RLW

Where is the listing of all the ice out dates from way back when. I have tried to located now for an hour and can't find it.
Webmaster do you hide it during the off season??

Not at all. On the Home Page of the site, in the left column under "Articles - Information", the first link is "Ice-Out Page".

Merrymeeting · 12-07-2014, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Not at all. On the Home Page of the site, in the left column under "Articles - Information", the first link is "Ice-Out Page".

Amazing how the mind/eye works sometimes. I knew I had seen the link in this area. I looked there. But in my minds eye, it was at the bottom of the links list. I looked there and never saw it...at the TOP!

DUHH!!!

Lakegeezer · 12-11-2014, 08:04 AM

Those that were thinking it would be an early ice-in can forget it. It was looking real good, but the rainstorm this week took it all away. The forecast calls for warmer than normal till Christmas, so we are back on track for a normal to new-normal (ie, January) ice-in for the parts of the lake that freeze first.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-11-2014, 09:35 AM

Temp at Lakeport was 37 this morning.

Misty Blue · 12-13-2014, 08:32 AM

We all know when Ice Out is. And Emerson makes the call.

So when is Ice IN? We have some options to choose from.

How about when the Mount can't make her run due to ice? How about when the island folks (and this hits close to home for me) can't make it to their places. That one is kind of hard to figure. How about when the islanders can make it to their places over the ice. Again, hard to figure.

My personal favorite is when all of the public ramps are closed due to ice. This can come and go due to weather daily though. Remember I said ice, not snow.

Last week I used my snow blower to clear and sand the ramp at Center Harbor so that I could pull the old Misty. I should have waited. I could have still made it!

Misty Blue

CAVU · 12-13-2014, 07:42 PM

Iced in up by suissevale. I don't think its strong enough to walk on but, its covered by thin layer of snow..

GTO · 12-15-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedawg

Drove by 19 and 20 Mile Bay. Both had ice a good ways out. I don't ever remember ice starting to form this early in Dec.

When was the earliest official Ice In?

There has been someone ice fishing out on Wicwas (right off of rte 104) for the past couple of weeks. Has a hut out there already. I don't get it....it has not been all that cold for a long period of time...its just a fish. I would wait.

Merrymeeting · 12-15-2014, 04:02 PM

I hope not too many are on the ice yet. It's weakening.

A week ago, ice had started to form along the shore on Merrymeeting. No evidence of it now. In fact there was a bass boat fishing in front of my house for most of the afternoon yesterday.

I was in Wolfeboro today. Back Bay had been almost completely covered in ice a week ago. It now has large areas open.

Similarly, Rust Pond was mostly covered last week. Now appears to be completely open.

The ice has retreated with warmer temps this week. I doubt anyone should be on what's left in most places.

GTO · 12-15-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

I hope not too many are on the ice yet. It's weakening.

A week ago, ice had started to form along the shore on Merrymeeting. No evidence of it now. In fact there was a bass boat fishing in front of my house for most of the afternoon yesterday.

I was in Wolfeboro today. Back Bay had been almost completely covered in ice a week ago. It now has large areas open.

Similarly, Rust Pond was mostly covered last week. Now appears to be completely open.

The ice has retreated with warmer temps this week. I doubt anyone should be on what's left in most places.

Isaw the guy out there fishing this past Sunday. Temp was 38 degrees If you pass the small cottages on the shore, look way out and you can see the ice hut
Like I said, it's only a fish. Hardly worth risking your life

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-17-2014, 08:03 AM

Just for comparison...

ishoot308 · 12-17-2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

It will be interesting to watch the area between Welch and Diamond this year. The "hot tub" didn't completely ice over until Feb 7th ish.

I'm glad you brought this up because I had the opportunity to watch this area closely over the summer and fall. There is definitely some kind of current or wind phenomena that goes on in this area. On perfectly calm days when the rest of the lake was like a mirror, including the broads, I noticed that this area between Lake Shore Park and Welch Island had a slight ripple effect on the top of the water that had the exact same shape as the "hot tub" area we have all seen for the past few years. I cannot tell what is causing it but I do not believe it is wind. In my opinion it is some kind of underwater current.

Dan

jeffatsquam · 12-17-2014, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

I'm glad you brought this up because I had the opportunity to watch this area closely over the summer and fall. There is definitely some kind of current or wind phenomena that goes on in this area. On perfectly calm days when the rest of the lake was like a mirror, including the broads, I noticed that this area between Lake Shore Park and Welch Island had a slight ripple effect on the top of the water that had the exact same shape as the "hot tub" area we have all seen for the past few years. I cannot tell what is causing it but I do not believe it is wind. In my opinion it is some kind of underwater current.

Dan

Could it be a spring ? If someone was to dive there would they be able to detect it?

ishoot308 · 12-17-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffatsquam

Could it be a spring ? If someone was to dive there would they be able to detect it?

Don't know much about diving but this area is well over 100' deep. Can someone dive that deep without ultra special equipment??

Merrymeeting · 12-18-2014, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffatsquam

Could it be a spring ? If someone was to dive there would they be able to detect it?

I suspect this is where the deep lair of the long sought Lake Winni Monster is located. She is most active during the winter, after the lake has iced over, thus avoiding detection and capture during open water season. Her constant hunting churns the water and keeps the ice above the lair thin.

Past divers who have ventured into the area in search of her have never been heard from again.

tis · 12-18-2014, 08:23 AM

When I was a kid, I always heard the story about how divers went down by the Broadside of Rattlesnake and would never go back again. No one knew why.

SIKSUKR · 12-18-2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter

These pictures were taken exactly 1 year apart, the latter this morning. As we learned with last years record ice out predictions, a week of weather can change this lake dramatically either way.

Hey PBFF. What the heck do you treat your lawn with? That is one green lawn.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-18-2014, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

Hey PBFF. What the heck do you treat your lawn with? That is one green lawn.

Canadian Goose cigars....

A combination of lime, irrigation and aeration with lots of TLC year round. The family business is landscaping so having a crew at your disposal makes it much easier to maintain.

That part of the property gets abused all summer. It's seeded every fall and seems to come back nicely before hibernation.

SIKSUKR · 12-18-2014, 12:55 PM

Amazing to see it that green in December!

Merrymeeting · 12-31-2014, 08:04 AM

It won't be long now. Merrymeeting Lake was wide open as of last night, no traces of ice anywhere. This morning it is mostly skimmed over as far as I can see (about 1/3rd of the lake). I suspect it won't hold if the wind comes up. But with well below freezing temps forecast for at least the next 2-3 days, I suspect things will begin to lock up.

Please stay off the ice! It still won't be strong enough in most places for a few more weeks.

PaugusBayFireFighter · 12-31-2014, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

It won't be long now. Merrymeeting Lake was wide open as of last night, no traces of ice anywhere. This morning it is mostly skimmed over as far as I can see (about 1/3rd of the lake). I suspect it won't hold if the wind comes up. But with well below freezing temps forecast for at least the next 2-3 days, I suspect things will begin to lock up.

Please stay off the ice! It still won't be strong enough in most places for a few more weeks.

This morning was the first time I used the ice aerator. The lake temp is right and the weather should cooperate with steady ice formation.

12-06-2014, 09:04 PM	#1
chasedawg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melvin village Posts: 519 Thanks: 509 Thanked 313 Times in 147 Posts	What year was the earliest ice in? Drove by 19 and 20 Mile Bay. Both had ice a good ways out. I don't ever remember ice starting to form this early in Dec. When was the earliest official Ice In?

12-06-2014, 09:43 PM	#2
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	chasedawg: We had a lot more ice here last November. By November 29 most of the coves were frozen. The water temp here was 38 this morning. We reached 38 degrees on 11/14 last year. This year seems pretty average for temp and water height. Here's a link from last years thread...scroll down to the end of November. http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ght=Water+temp Last edited by PaugusBayFireFighter; 12-07-2014 at 06:57 AM.

12-07-2014, 02:19 PM	#6
RLW Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alton Bay on the mountain by a lake Posts: 2,023 Thanks: 563 Thanked 444 Times in 311 Posts	Where is the listing of all the ice out dates from way back when. I have tried to located now for an hour and can't find it. Webmaster do you hide it during the off season?? __________________ There is nothing better than living on Alton Mountain & our grand kids visits.

12-11-2014, 08:04 AM	#11
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	No early ice-in for 2014 Those that were thinking it would be an early ice-in can forget it. It was looking real good, but the rainstorm this week took it all away. The forecast calls for warmer than normal till Christmas, so we are back on track for a normal to new-normal (ie, January) ice-in for the parts of the lake that freeze first. __________________ -lg

12-11-2014, 09:35 AM	#12
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	Temp at Lakeport was 37 this morning. Last edited by PaugusBayFireFighter; 01-09-2015 at 07:08 AM.

12-07-2014, 08:22 AM	#3
CAVU Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 41 Times in 19 Posts	Its frozen up by suissevale!! Don't think I would walk on it though..

12-07-2014, 02:38 PM	#7
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,217 Thanks: 299 Thanked 795 Times in 365 Posts	Agreed it is not posted obviously as it usually is during Spring, but a web search of "Winnipesaukee Ice Out" finds, http://www.winnipesaukee.com/index.php?pageid=iceout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Winnipesaukee_Ice-Out

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12-07-2014, 03:09 PM	#8
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,408 Thanks: 719 Thanked 1,380 Times in 956 Posts	It's kind of hard to say when ice in actually is anyway because the bays usually freeze over first, usually skimmed along the edges at least by Thanksgiving and it is usually the 3rd week of Jan before the broads are iced in. So if you are talking about total ice in, it is not usually until that 3rd week in Jan.

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12-13-2014, 08:32 AM	#13
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	Define "Ice In"... We all know when Ice Out is. And Emerson makes the call. So when is Ice IN? We have some options to choose from. How about when the Mount can't make her run due to ice? How about when the island folks (and this hits close to home for me) can't make it to their places. That one is kind of hard to figure. How about when the islanders can make it to their places over the ice. Again, hard to figure. My personal favorite is when all of the public ramps are closed due to ice. This can come and go due to weather daily though. Remember I said ice, not snow. Last week I used my snow blower to clear and sand the ramp at Center Harbor so that I could pull the old Misty. I should have waited. I could have still made it! Misty Blue

12-13-2014, 07:42 PM	#14
CAVU Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 41 Times in 19 Posts	Iced in up by suissevale. I don't think its strong enough to walk on but, its covered by thin layer of snow..

12-15-2014, 04:02 PM	#16
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,217 Thanks: 299 Thanked 795 Times in 365 Posts	I hope not too many are on the ice yet. It's weakening. A week ago, ice had started to form along the shore on Merrymeeting. No evidence of it now. In fact there was a bass boat fishing in front of my house for most of the afternoon yesterday. I was in Wolfeboro today. Back Bay had been almost completely covered in ice a week ago. It now has large areas open. Similarly, Rust Pond was mostly covered last week. Now appears to be completely open. The ice has retreated with warmer temps this week. I doubt anyone should be on what's left in most places.

12-17-2014, 08:03 AM	#18
PaugusBayFireFighter Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 837 Thanks: 361 Thanked 674 Times in 264 Posts	Just for comparison... Last edited by PaugusBayFireFighter; 01-09-2015 at 06:57 AM.

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12-18-2014, 08:23 AM	#23
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,408 Thanks: 719 Thanked 1,380 Times in 956 Posts	When I was a kid, I always heard the story about how divers went down by the Broadside of Rattlesnake and would never go back again. No one knew why.

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SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Amazing to see it that green in December! __________________ SIKSUKR

12-31-2014, 08:04 AM	#27
Merrymeeting Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Merrymeeting Lake, New Durham Posts: 2,217 Thanks: 299 Thanked 795 Times in 365 Posts	It won't be long now. Merrymeeting Lake was wide open as of last night, no traces of ice anywhere. This morning it is mostly skimmed over as far as I can see (about 1/3rd of the lake). I suspect it won't hold if the wind comes up. But with well below freezing temps forecast for at least the next 2-3 days, I suspect things will begin to lock up. Please stay off the ice! It still won't be strong enough in most places for a few more weeks.