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Hello all,
Just a quick question about registrations for trailers in NH. I own a seasonal property in NH. Can I register a trailer in NH (small landscape trailer)? If so... how do I do it, documentation requirements etc? thanks |
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See RSA 261 and in particular 261:46.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...61/261-mrg.htm |
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If your vehicles are not registered in NH, it might make sense to check with your insurance agent to see if there's any problem with an out-of-state trailer.
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While my tow vehicle is registered in Mass, my boat trailer is registered in NH (do it through the town clerks office where you own property in NH).
Before I registered the trailer in NH I checked with my auto insurance company and they say it is covered re: liability via my tow vehicle insurance however it is not covered for replacement cost. Yes, the trailer stays in NH and has only crossed into Mass once in 4 years. |
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Airwaves.... Before I head on down to the NH DMV, anything I should know about what docs. might be required for NH Registration.
Currently have Mass Registration, but boat in NH like yourself. Have just become the newest NH taxpayer-property owner, so I'd like to register boat trailer in NH. Boat Trailer currently has Mass. Registration, and is listed as being less than 3000lb max. That being said, no owner Title is required under NH law. BTW, clear-out your messages, you're maxed out, and nobody can send you any PM's. Thanks, Bigdog |
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Welcome to the "Live Free or Die State" .......to register a car or a trailer you need to go to your local town clerk probably located in the local town hall who will figure the fee and give you a trailer plate and a registration. Just bring every document you think you'll need, as making a return trip is no big deal, since you are only going to the nearby town hall.
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Bring your old registrations and at least a utility bill showing you own property then off to more than likely town hall.
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Thanks everyone for the info. Will bring old Registration, origianl Bill of Sale, and Utility bill to Town Hall.
Somewhat surprised that the Town Hall can issue a trailer plate & Registration? That would never happen in Mass. That would be stealing a State job at the RMV ! ![]() While I'm at the Town Hall, going to get my 'voter registration card'. I hear this is one of the legal steps to be regarded as a Resdent of N.H. After that, I'll be going to the RMV to register all 3 cars ! Boat is already registered in NH, and has been for years. Thanks again. BD |
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If you own a seasonal property in NH, but live in Ma., I would not register your cars in NH. You will have to sign a document saying that your vehicles are used primarily in NH, I think it was something like 95% of the time. You will be declined any claim if you have one. Check for the form at your local NH insurance agency. With a seasonal property, you are asking for trouble. As far as a boat? No problem.
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Don't forget -- you have to get your trailer inspected every year. Just like a car. Or so they say.
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You do? How/where is that documented? I have had a camper since 1999, a boat trailer since 2002, and a snowmobile trailer since 2004. None has ever been inspected, nor have I ever been informed of the requirement.
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Trailer Inspection ? Huh ? Are you serious? An inspection for a boat trailer ? Never heard of such a thing in Mass. If you ever saw the home-made rig trailers running around the state in Mass..... And they have no inspections. So exactly who would do that trailer inspection, my local repair garage or some State facility ? I'm talking a boat trailer for a 20' bowrider. PM203 Will be in NH on a permanant basis, returning to Mass. maybe every 2 wks for a day or two, to check on property, cut grass, and run errands down there. Not planning to spend much time down there, but who's checking? Just my word I guess.. Will check with a NH insurance agency about this question. Thanks, BD |
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Haven't you ever noticed that when shopping for a trailer they are either just under 3000lbs or just under 10,000lbs. Don't believe me check it out, it because of inspection requirements, most states have them, but like I said, not many people have it done. Joe homeowner would probably be fine, Johny landscaper would not, better have your health card, cause this is going to get expensive!!!! http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rule...saf-c3200.html Sorry tons of reading there, here is the part about trailers. PART Saf-C 3227 TRAILERS AND SEMI-TRAILERS Saf-C 3227.01 Inspection Required. (a) All trailers, semi-trailers and full trailers with a registered weight of 3,000 pounds or more shall be inspected. (b) Trailers shall comply with the provisions of RSA 266:30 pertaining to brakes, and RSA 266:63 pertaining to safety chains or cables. (c) Pursuant to RSA 266:60-a and Saf-C 3226.20, all motor home trailers that have a motor vehicle registration shall be equipped with a fire extinguisher that is in good working condition, securely mounted and in a readily accessible location to the driver. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.02 Inspection Period. (a) All trailers required to be inspected shall be inspected annually during the owner's month of birth or the month set forth in Saf-C 3203.03, for a corporation. (b) Any newly registered trailer shall be inspected within 10 days from the date of registration. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.03 Trailer, Semi-Trailer and Full Trailer Brakes. (a) A trailer, semi-trailer or full trailer shall be rejected if: (1) The brakes do not adequately control and stop the trailer; (2) The brakes do not automatically apply and hold the trailer on a 20 percent grade for at least 15 minutes, in the event of a breakaway; (3) The brakes do not apply at the same time as the service brake of the towing vehicle, or are adjusted so as to start braking prior to the service brake of the towing vehicle; (4) The brakes do not apply at a faster rate than the service brake of the towing vehicle; (5) The brakes do not prevent side-sway of the trailer, semi-trailer or full trailer during braking; (6) The brake linings are worn below 2/32 inch for a trailer with a gross vehicle weight of 10,000 pounds or less, or 4/32 inch for a trailer with a gross vehicle weight in excess of 10,000 pounds; or (7) Any brake line, hose or electrical component is defective. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.04 Trailer or Semi-Trailer Parking Brake (Air Brakes Only). (a) A trailer with air brakes shall be rejected if: (1) The trailer brakes do not fully apply and release when the driver control is operated; (2) The trailer brakes do not automatically apply when the air pressure is 45 psi or less; (3) The trailer brakes automatically apply when the air pressure is in excess of 45 psi; (4) The trailer brakes do not automatically apply when the connecting hoses of the trailer are disconnected; or (5) There is detectable leakage back through the trailer when the connecting hoses of the trailer are disconnected. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.05 Anti-Lock System. A trailer shall be rejected if the anti-lock device does not light momentarily when the ignition is on or during cranking, or if the light stays on for more than one minute after the vehicle is started. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.06 Air Disc Brakes - Tractor/Trailer. (a) A vehicle with heavy duty air-activated disc brakes shall be rejected if: (1) The slack adjustment or air chamber stroke does not fall within the manufacturer's recommended tolerance; or (2) The brakes are worn. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.07 Emergency Brakes. (a) A trailer shall be rejected if: (1) The emergency brakes do not automatically apply when the breakaway safety mechanism is operated; or (2) The emergency brakes do not release when the breakaway safety mechanism is returned to the normal position. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.08 Taillamps, Clearance Lamps, Reflectors. (a) A trailer shall be rejected if: (1) It does not comply with the tail lamp and reflector requirements of RSA 266:43 through RSA 266:45; (2) It does not comply with the clearance lamp requirements of RSA 266:40; or (3) The lenses are broken, obscured or improperly mounted. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.09 Brake Wiring Connections. (a) A trailer shall be rejected if: (1) The wiring connections are not made through matched connectors; or (2) The wiring is worn, not in good condition, improperly installed or in a location which could cause damage. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.10 Tire Flaps and Guards. A trailer shall be rejected if it does not comply with the requirements of RSA 266:57. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.11 Tires. A trailer shall be rejected if any tire does not comply with the requirements of RSA 266:47 through 266:53. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.12 Stop Lights and Turn Signals. A trailer shall be rejected if it is not equipped with stop lights and turn signals. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.13 Landing Gear. A semi-trailer or full trailer shall be rejected if any landing gear parts are broken or missing, or the landing gear does not work properly. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.14 Rear End Protection. A semi-trailer or full trailer shall be equipped with a bumper or rear end protection which shall be no more than 30 inches above the ground and within at least 18 inches of each side. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.15 Body and Frame. A trailer shall be rejected if the flooring and floor beds are not able to support occupants and cargo, or the frame is not solid. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.16 Dimensions, Requirements. (a) All trailers shall comply with the height, length and width requirements of RSA 266:11 and RSA 266:12. (b) A semi-trailer or full trailer shall be rejected if it exceeds 13 feet 6 inches in height and 102 inches in width, unless the owner displays a valid over dimension permit issued by the department of transportation. (c) A semi-trailer shall be rejected if it exceeds 53 feet in length and a full trailer shall be rejected if it exceeds 28 feet in length, unless the owner displays a valid over dimension permit by the department of transportation. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 Saf-C 3227.17 Trailer Towing Equipment. (a) Any vehicle used to tow a trailer shall be rejected if it does not have a solid, permanent coupling device attached to its frame which does not have any wear, and which is of a locking type, if possible. (b) A trailer shall be rejected if it is not equipped with safety chains pursuant to RSA 266:63. Source. (See Revision Notes at chapter heading Saf-C 3200) #8915, eff 6-22-07 |
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The key words in the law quoted above is "registered weight". You can take a trailer that's rated for 7000 lbs and register it at any weight you want. Just don't get caught carrying a load above your registered weight.
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Most likely, all those trailer laws are federal laws which get enforced by all 50-states. Trailers over maybe 10,000 or 12,000 gvw, not sure which, need to be inspected once/year, and trucks wih a gvw over 12000-lbs get inspected once/6-months & need a cdl driver's license.
For registering a Massachusetts boat trailer in NH, all you need to do is put on a clean shirt, bring your last NH property tax bill, a check book, and go visit the town clerk, and assume it will probably take two trips. She will treat you like a valued customer.
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The Florida Keys just had a double-fatality involving a trailer with unknown problems. From the photographs, I can't identify the towing vehicle, said to be too small. The rig involved is owned by the State, so you'd expect it would be subject to Federal inspection requirements.
In the link's slides below, the boat is still headed in the original direction (north) after the towing SUV spun 180°. (Taking out the white van). The boat left the trailer and collided with still another car. Traffic was closed for nearly five hours. http://www.abc-7.com/Global/story.asp?S=12012165 Additional commentary: http://keysnews.com/node/20961 And I just bought a boat trailer Sunday. ![]() |
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I've never had any trailer I've owned in 30 years inspected.However,they would fall below 3000#.
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Someone mentioned requirements for a CDL for "trailers" over 10-12,000 pounds. CDL stands for: "Commercial Drivers Licence". How would a privately owned boat trailer fit the Commercial category..?? Commercially owned trucks over a certain weight require a CDL. Privately owned Motor Homes ...the larger ones are well over 25,000 pounds and don't require a Special Licence as far as I know. So much to get confused about......... ![]() |
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I did not see any mention of the tow vehicle being to small either. Surely you are not reading the comments that people post anonomously in the news article, and repeating them here, right? ![]()
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My analogy above between the home owner and the contractor was that a commercial driver is held to a higher standard than non-commercial, so you better have all the required items on you or DOT will throw the book at you. The entire RSA is in the link above, the trailer section is in my post, it does not descriminate between happy homeowners and commercial applications, its all on weight. |
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Go to your local town clerk and bring your old registration. You will have to get the local police to verify your VIN number on your trailer. Then go back to the town clerks office with the VIN number verification form. They will then issue you your new registration. This is what I had to do in Sanbornton to resister my boat trailer in NH.
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One day while waiting in line down at the Hazen Drive, Concord, RMV, there was a pretty irate & outspoken guy nearby who was there to pay a driving fine .....he got busted for driving a commercial truck with a standard class-3 license.
His loud argument to a buddy was " I can legally drive an RV that's just as big or bigger than the truck with a class-3, so why the heck do I need a cdl to drive the truck!" I have no real clue, but the RV driving policy could originate with the RV industry in Indiana, lobbyists and the power-politics of that business.
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When you go to the town hall in NH you will need two checks. One for the Town and one for the State. The town actually gets to keep a significant portion for local use. Keep your taxes local.
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AGAIN: I think the Keyword here is Commercial....Check this link to PREVOST..perhaps the #1 Motorhome builder. See FAQ number two.
http://www.prevostcar.com/cgi-bin/pa...t_motorhomefaq I am still looking for weights for a typical 45 foot Prevost. How many Slide outs..how many flat screen TVs....yada yada. One of the For Sale ads I saw showed a slide out from the baggage area (under the bus) with a 42" flat screen TV that you can watch while you are sitting outside the bus on your little patio under the awning. I presume, since every Prevost is Totally Custom Built...Who Knows what one would weigh..? I learn something new every day. My guess was a Prevost would be +/- $500,000.. Nah. Try 1.9 Million Dollars. OMG. ![]() PS: I totally apologize for certainly getting off topic....but I've always admired the PREVOST. |
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My property is located in Golford. That being said, not sure how Town Hall manages boat trailer Registrations ? Will call tomorrow for details.
I have original Bill of Sale, latest Registration from Mass. Hope that is all needed besides my Checkbook ! If I need VIN Form completed, and VIN to be verified by Gilford Police, that will have to wait until I haul boat up to Lake in the Spring. Thanks, BD |
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You should be fine if you have your latest registration and BOS.
Regarding the trailer inspection, it is true that trailers are supposed to be inspected. I had our 9990GVW enclosed trailer inspected last year. It is pretty stringent and I doubt many people have it done. It is strange because there is no special sticker that is applied to the trailer or plate. They give you a sticker to carry with the registration. I am not sure if I will pursue it again this year. Best of luck registering. The town clerks in NH are good at it, they act as RMV agents and as noted above receive fees for doing so. |
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Bigdog, That should be just fine, trailer registrations are not that expensive, so it should not hurt to much. Before I sold my last boat I think that trailer reg was around $19 dollars, my utility was $22 and the bigger trailers are around $35 (car haulers). And yes bring two checks.
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My response? Yeah, right. No way I'm going to spend money on yet another inspection. |
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I hope there isn't any NH Democrats in here thinking that this will be an excellent way of adding revenue. Trailer registrsation increase, boat registration increase and hopefully not adding this! Enough is enough!
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Here's what NH law says regarding trailer inspection:
PART Saf-C 3227 TRAILERS AND SEMI-TRAILERS Saf-C 3227.01 Inspection Required. (a) All trailers, semi-trailers and full trailers with a registered weight of 3,000 pounds or more shall be inspected.
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The registered owner needs to maintain all of the safety requirements of any towed vehicle. If you're sorry tire blows out or the brake lights or directional lights don't work, you will be ticketed and or if found in any way
or situation to be negligent and or to cause an accident from any of the above deficiencies. Also check you're auto insurance policy to make sure that any towed vehicle is covered through the tow vehicle policy. Use to be automatic, but they are cutting costs and transferring them to you. Read The Fine Print in you're policy or ask you're agent. Some require a flyer to tow a trailer.
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My horse trailer required inspection due to it's weight and max hauling weight. Call town hall, they can tell you the specifics of the weight issues.
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Went to Town Hall today to do 3 things: 1. Register Boat Trailer 2. Estatblish Residency in Town/NH - Had to fill-out a form for this 3. Register as a Voter - Filled out a form, and showed Passport for Identification Boat Registration was a little different and did not go smoothly.... Presented Bill of Sale, Current Mass. Registraion Was asked what trailer GVW was, and indicated 2950 lbs. THis is specified on my Mass Reg. Town Hall office worker then went on Internet, and apparently they have communication to Mass. RMV, and looked up my trailer Registration and found that previous owner, based upon the VIN#. The trailer was actually registered to previous owner, as being 3685 lbs GVW. I was shocked, and somewhat embarrassed..... Anyway, they provided me a 'Verification of Vehicle Identification' form, which must be completed and returned. When they have this, they can issue the trailer plate. Has to be filled out either by an NH Inspection Station, Auto Dealer, or Police Dept. This may have to wait another month, as boat/triler are in Mass., and I have no place to currently store at NH property location. BTW, cost to register boat and get new plate in NH will be about $60. Town will get $11.50 State of NH will get: $49.33 Total: $60.83 Where they came up with these odd amounts was not given? BTW, my Mass. Trailer Registration is $60. If I do the math, Looks like I'll pay .83 cents more in N.H. ! Go figure that one ? Will keep all updated on how things progress. Thanks, BD Last edited by bigdog; 03-01-2010 at 10:31 PM. Reason: spelling |
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OK, I have a Catch-22 situation to present to Forum and want your feedback.
Current trailer registration in Mass. but expired at end of 2009. Need to register boat trailer in N.H., however cannot because my NH Town Clerk is requiring me to get 'Verification of Vehicle Identification' form completed by NH Police, NH Dealer, NH Inspection Station, before they will issue me a NH Trailer Registration and Plate. Trailer was never Titled in Mass, but Registered or over 5 yrs. They will not accept my current Mass Reg. for Vin#, go figure ? So only way I can have trailer Vin# verified, would be to pull boat up to N.H. with my expired Mass. Registration, and get verified by town police dept. See where I'm going here? If I ahuled boat up to NH, on I-93, that expired Mass.Reg. Plate would stick out like a sore thumb, as it has a 2009 sitcker on the top tight of the plate. I can hear the sirens and see the blue lights in my rear view mirror now ! ![]() Suggestions ? And legal ones.... ![]() BD Last edited by bigdog; 03-07-2010 at 10:17 PM. Reason: Typo |
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What I have done when buying cars out of state, is to go to a state DMV agency (ie Tamworth, Concord...) and get a temporary plate. You have to swear out an affidavit ref VIN, but its no big deal.
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Are you sure you can't get a Mass. Dept. to verify the VIN for you? I know some states want the verification from the state it is in. |
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I would call Concord and find an alternative. I had an issue with a 65 Mustang I sold that didn't have a title ( been in storage 35 years ) and they made me bring it for vin verification but I don't know if thats true on a trailer reg. I hope you have better luck.
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