Ethanol Vs Water

Kamper · 10-16-2007, 06:16 AM

(I'm not sure if this is better suited to "General Discusson" or the "Boating" forum but I'm sure boaters are interested in ethanol related materials so I am starting this in "Boating" and will rely on our Moderator's judgment.)

http://www8.nationalacademies.org/on...RecordID=12039

(From: "NEWS." Published by the National Academy of Sciences)

Date: Oct. 10, 2007

...

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Increase in Ethanol Production From Corn Could Significantly Impact
Water Quality and Availability if New Practices and Techniques Are Not Employed

WASHINGTON -- If projected increases in the use of corn for ethanol production occur, the harm to water quality could be considerable, and water supply problems at the regional and local levels could also arise, says a new report from the National Research Council. The committee that wrote the report examined policy options and identified opportunities for new agricultural techniques and technologies to help minimize effects of biofuel production on water resources. ...

ApS · 10-16-2007, 08:58 AM

I don't think there's any concern for corn production in the Winnipesaukee Basin affecting the Big Lake's water quality. Most local corn is grown for local consumption, not for bio-fuels.

What happens to Mid-West waters—already a problem—is cause for concern.

ossipeeboater · 10-17-2007, 02:59 PM

i think the point that get's missed is ethonol is not the savior many greenies make it out to be. It can't replace our reliance on foreign oil, it's not good for the enviroment and it costs prices of all types of food to rise because you have competing crops and an increase in food costs for animals.

Ethanol is a farce being pushed by the politicians of both parties so they can say they are doing something while really nothing is happening. Wind turbines and increase nuclear powerplants would be a better place to spend the 50 cent a gallon fed subsidy on ethanol.

Kamper · 10-17-2007, 05:27 PM

I threw this out as a "Big Picture" piece. I've noticed some of our members are smart enough to be interested in that type of information.

chipj29 · 10-18-2007, 07:06 AM

Not to mention the damage that ethanol is causing to some of our motors. It is destroying carbs faster than ever.

wifi · 10-18-2007, 07:50 AM

Another curious thing is to think about a gasoline spill in the lake. Gasoline floats on the water and could be contained. Ethanol combines with the water. Maybe, someday, we can heat our homes on lake water?

SIKSUKR · 10-18-2007, 02:21 PM

Ossippee is right on.I also believe it it's not really green because of the energy it takes to produce it.Maybe Al Gore should give back his Peace Prize.

10-16-2007, 06:16 AM	#1
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 67 Thanked 166 Times in 126 Posts	Ethanol Vs Water (I'm not sure if this is better suited to "General Discusson" or the "Boating" forum but I'm sure boaters are interested in ethanol related materials so I am starting this in "Boating" and will rely on our Moderator's judgment.) http://www8.nationalacademies.org/on...RecordID=12039 (From: "NEWS." Published by the National Academy of Sciences) Date: Oct. 10, 2007 ... FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Increase in Ethanol Production From Corn Could Significantly Impact Water Quality and Availability if New Practices and Techniques Are Not Employed WASHINGTON -- If projected increases in the use of corn for ethanol production occur, the harm to water quality could be considerable, and water supply problems at the regional and local levels could also arise, says a new report from the National Research Council. The committee that wrote the report examined policy options and identified opportunities for new agricultural techniques and technologies to help minimize effects of biofuel production on water resources. ...

10-16-2007, 08:58 AM	#2
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,788 Thanks: 2,084 Thanked 742 Times in 532 Posts	I don't think there's any concern for corn production in the Winnipesaukee Basin affecting the Big Lake's water quality. Most local corn is grown for local consumption, not for bio-fuels. What happens to Mid-West waters—already a problem—is cause for concern. __________________ Every MP who enters Winter Harbor will pass by my porch of 67 years...

10-18-2007, 02:21 PM	#7
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Ossippee is right on.I also believe it it's not really green because of the energy it takes to produce it.Maybe Al Gore should give back his Peace Prize. __________________ SIKSUKR

10-17-2007, 02:59 PM	#3
ossipeeboater Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 157 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	i think the point that get's missed is ethonol is not the savior many greenies make it out to be. It can't replace our reliance on foreign oil, it's not good for the enviroment and it costs prices of all types of food to rise because you have competing crops and an increase in food costs for animals. Ethanol is a farce being pushed by the politicians of both parties so they can say they are doing something while really nothing is happening. Wind turbines and increase nuclear powerplants would be a better place to spend the 50 cent a gallon fed subsidy on ethanol.

10-17-2007, 05:27 PM	#4
Kamper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Thornton's Ferry Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 67 Thanked 166 Times in 126 Posts	I threw this out as a "Big Picture" piece. I've noticed some of our members are smart enough to be interested in that type of information.

10-18-2007, 07:06 AM	#5
chipj29 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bow Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 521 Thanked 308 Times in 162 Posts	Not to mention the damage that ethanol is causing to some of our motors. It is destroying carbs faster than ever.

10-18-2007, 07:50 AM	#6
wifi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 1,321 Thanks: 282 Thanked 287 Times in 169 Posts	Another curious thing is to think about a gasoline spill in the lake. Gasoline floats on the water and could be contained. Ethanol combines with the water. Maybe, someday, we can heat our homes on lake water?