Missing Markers Thread

MAXUM · 05-05-2014, 01:55 PM

Just passing along a heads up to markers that are missing. Figure the MP could use the heads up so having a thread here to post any that are missing will help those guys out big time.

Blacktop north of Shep's slips is missing. It was broken off at the base just before ice out.

Blacktop and accompanying orange flasher E of Pine Island near the north entrance to the Bear Island NWZ are both missing. Make sure you pass well wide of Pine Island here, that's a really nasty spot.

One of two blacktops to the north of the YMCA girls camp on Bear Island are missing.

Both blacktops off east Bear Island just to the north of the YMCA boys camp are missing. They are usually well off shore and form a somewhat narrow passage between them and the red top off the small island (don't recall the name). That's another nasty spot so if you pass between that island and East Bear, stay close to that red top.

Be safe out there!

BroadHopper · 05-05-2014, 03:07 PM

Are missing from the Weirs Channel. Sunday there were a few boneheads that figure they can blast through the channel because the signs were not there. Where are the MPs when you need them.

Pine Island Guy · 05-05-2014, 03:46 PM

Thanks for starting this thread MAXUM. We didn't go too far in our travels this past weekend but it did seem like there were more missing markers this year than usual. I suspect it had to do with the massive and somewhat thick ice flow?

as you mentioned, FL #4 directly in front of us is missing and the high water gives people a little latitude, but there are still some rocks poking out there... it will show 20' deep and then gets nasty really fast... we've seen some lucky folks fly through there in the summer, somehow without taking out their lower unit!

Good news is we haven't seen too much debris floating, hopefully it all washed up on shore with the ice.

I believe the MP monitors this site, maybe Don will call out this thread to them and help get the markers back in place

-PIG

Tired of Waiting · 05-06-2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Are missing from the Weirs Channel. Sunday there were a few boneheads that figure they can blast through the channel because the signs were not there. Where are the MPs when you need them.

Think about it for a second. If they don't know it is a no wake zone, ie, a boater new to the area, then without markers how are they to know?

Unless of course the channel is narrow and you can't be 150 ft from both shores. Then yes a bone head move.

EBR666

Steveo · 05-06-2014, 08:22 AM

1. Red buoy off Watson point, Loon Cove, Alton Bay gone. With high water this one isn't too dangerous to miss

2. Black buoy north side of Moose Island gone - this one is dangerous because plenty of rocks near missing buoy

First Mate · 05-06-2014, 10:16 AM

Missing black top marker between Pitchwood and Eagle Island--it's the companion to FL 44 off Pitchwood. This one would be easy to hit, it is sheared off at water level in a high traffic area.

Barney Bear · 05-06-2014, 10:34 AM

The small island north of YMCA Camp Lawrence is Dollar I$sland. There is a red top spar buoy just off the west shore of Dollar. The two black top spar buoys denote ledge areas further west of the red spar towards Bear Island. The navigation route is between the red top spar and the black top spar nearer to the red top spar. The black top spar nearer to Bear is on the south edge of this ledge area [which is visible at lower water levels]. We plan to open our cottage this later this week and will report back re these spar buoys.

WelcomeToBearadise · 05-06-2014, 01:30 PM

We went over to Bear to open up our place on Saturday and called in to Marine Patrol about the two missing black spar buoys.

Lakegeezer · 05-06-2014, 06:13 PM

There is a red marker missing just east of Whaleback Island, as you come out the bay from Suissevale. Note to Bizer. It is times like this that I wish your map had all markers numbered, so I could just give the number of the marker missing.

playinghooky · 05-11-2014, 08:21 PM

I took a ride around Alton Bay over the weekend and found three missing markers. The red marker in Loon Cove (across from Echo Point) is missing. The black companion marker by the #23 lighted buoy (near Sandy Point) is missing and the red marker outside the entrance to the bay going into the conference center is missing.
It looks like the Marine Patrol will be busy this spring replacing all the missing markers.

upthesaukee · 05-11-2014, 10:18 PM

The first black channel marker, which would be on the left heading in, is displaced several yards from where it should be, and is actually next to and seemingly just the Sleeper Island side of the No Wake buoy.

MAXUM · 05-11-2014, 10:28 PM

I noticed some of the flashers have been deployed as well as the covers to the NWZ bouys near the Bear Island post office. So the MP is out and about.

When they will be able to start deploying replacements is anyone guess, they have a big job to do.

beagle · 05-12-2014, 09:03 AM

Don't have the boat in yet but looks from shore that one of the 4 markers outlining the shallows in the middle of South Wolfeboro Bay appears to be missing.

LIforrelaxin · 05-12-2014, 09:32 AM

The red and white Marker off of Long Island across from FL9 which is off of Sandy Island is missing.... in Short don't cut to close to Long Island coming up between Sandy and Long Island or there will be a price to pay.

As Mentioned some lighters marks are already out.... and the Marine Patrol was seen out and about this weekend... So hopefully we will see things getting fixed shortly....

Barney Bear · 05-21-2014, 09:00 AM

The two black-top spar buoys mentioned in #7 above have been replaced.

Papa Bear · 05-21-2014, 09:42 AM

The markers have been replaced.

Newbiesaukee · 05-21-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

The red and white Marker off of Long Island across from FL9 which is off of Sandy Island is missing.... in Short don't cut to close to Long Island coming up between Sandy and Long Island or there will be a price to pay.

As Mentioned some lighters marks are already out.... and the Marine Patrol was seen out and about this weekend... So hopefully we will see things getting fixed shortly....

Still missing as of 1 hour ago. Picked up the boat today at Irwins...what a great ride home.

MAXUM · 05-21-2014, 11:26 AM

Black Top to the N/NE of five mile island is not missing, but barely visible above water, maybe a foot at best. Being black it's hard to see it especially on a rough day. This is NOT the one that is next to the flasher.

Bizer · 05-22-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

... Note to Bizer. It is times like this that I wish your map had all markers numbered, so I could just give the number of the marker missing.

Question 6 from Bizer's FAQ page: > Why doesn't Bizer number all the buoys?

A> In an email dated 19-Apr-06, the NH Marine Patrol advised Bizer,
The MP is not numbering spar buoys. I am aware that Duncan Press numbered a Newfound Chart, however that was their doing. We have no plans to mark spars with any numbers at this time.

In an email dated 30-Apr-06, addressed to Bizer and Duncan Press, The Marine Patrol said, in part,
In addition, we are not using buoy numbers except for the flashing light buoys, and do not intend to use or mark spar buoys with numbers.

05-05-2014, 01:55 PM	#1
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Missing Markers Thread Just passing along a heads up to markers that are missing. Figure the MP could use the heads up so having a thread here to post any that are missing will help those guys out big time. Blacktop north of Shep's slips is missing. It was broken off at the base just before ice out. Blacktop and accompanying orange flasher E of Pine Island near the north entrance to the Bear Island NWZ are both missing. Make sure you pass well wide of Pine Island here, that's a really nasty spot. One of two blacktops to the north of the YMCA girls camp on Bear Island are missing. Both blacktops off east Bear Island just to the north of the YMCA boys camp are missing. They are usually well off shore and form a somewhat narrow passage between them and the red top off the small island (don't recall the name). That's another nasty spot so if you pass between that island and East Bear, stay close to that red top. Be safe out there!

05-05-2014, 03:46 PM	#3
Pine Island Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: pine island of course! Posts: 405 Thanks: 236 Thanked 233 Times in 111 Posts	great thread! Thanks for starting this thread MAXUM. We didn't go too far in our travels this past weekend but it did seem like there were more missing markers this year than usual. I suspect it had to do with the massive and somewhat thick ice flow? as you mentioned, FL #4 directly in front of us is missing and the high water gives people a little latitude, but there are still some rocks poking out there... it will show 20' deep and then gets nasty really fast... we've seen some lucky folks fly through there in the summer, somehow without taking out their lower unit! Good news is we haven't seen too much debris floating, hopefully it all washed up on shore with the ice. I believe the MP monitors this site, maybe Don will call out this thread to them and help get the markers back in place -PIG

05-06-2014, 08:22 AM	#5
Steveo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 523 Thanks: 47 Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts	Missing markers 1. Red buoy off Watson point, Loon Cove, Alton Bay gone. With high water this one isn't too dangerous to miss 2. Black buoy north side of Moose Island gone - this one is dangerous because plenty of rocks near missing buoy

05-06-2014, 01:30 PM	#8
WelcomeToBearadise Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 19 Thanked 23 Times in 5 Posts	Missing off East Bear Island We went over to Bear to open up our place on Saturday and called in to Marine Patrol about the two missing black spar buoys.

05-06-2014, 06:13 PM	#9
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Missing marker There is a red marker missing just east of Whaleback Island, as you come out the bay from Suissevale. Note to Bizer. It is times like this that I wish your map had all markers numbered, so I could just give the number of the marker missing. __________________ -lg Last edited by Lakegeezer; 05-06-2014 at 06:15 PM. Reason: clarify

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05-05-2014, 03:07 PM	#2
BroadHopper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 5,509 Thanks: 3,116 Thanked 1,089 Times in 783 Posts	No wake / headway speed markers Are missing from the Weirs Channel. Sunday there were a few boneheads that figure they can blast through the channel because the signs were not there. Where are the MPs when you need them. __________________ Someday may never be an actual day.

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05-06-2014, 10:16 AM	#6
First Mate Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 38 Thanks: 15 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Missing black top marker between Pitchwood and Eagle Island--it's the companion to FL 44 off Pitchwood. This one would be easy to hit, it is sheared off at water level in a high traffic area.

05-06-2014, 10:34 AM	#7
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts	Re: MAXUM Report The small island north of YMCA Camp Lawrence is Dollar I$sland. There is a red top spar buoy just off the west shore of Dollar. The two black top spar buoys denote ledge areas further west of the red spar towards Bear Island. The navigation route is between the red top spar and the black top spar nearer to the red top spar. The black top spar nearer to Bear is on the south edge of this ledge area [which is visible at lower water levels]. We plan to open our cottage this later this week and will report back re these spar buoys.

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05-11-2014, 08:21 PM	#10
playinghooky Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 61 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Missing Markers on Alton Bay I took a ride around Alton Bay over the weekend and found three missing markers. The red marker in Loon Cove (across from Echo Point) is missing. The black companion marker by the #23 lighted buoy (near Sandy Point) is missing and the red marker outside the entrance to the bay going into the conference center is missing. It looks like the Marine Patrol will be busy this spring replacing all the missing markers. Last edited by playinghooky; 05-14-2014 at 10:50 AM.

05-11-2014, 10:18 PM	#11
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,547 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,397 Thanked 1,918 Times in 1,061 Posts	Channel Marker at West Alton The first black channel marker, which would be on the left heading in, is displaced several yards from where it should be, and is actually next to and seemingly just the Sleeper Island side of the No Wake buoy. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

05-11-2014, 10:28 PM	#12
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	I noticed some of the flashers have been deployed as well as the covers to the NWZ bouys near the Bear Island post office. So the MP is out and about. When they will be able to start deploying replacements is anyone guess, they have a big job to do.

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05-12-2014, 09:03 AM	#13
beagle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wolfeboro Posts: 172 Thanks: 177 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts	South Wolfeboro Bay Don't have the boat in yet but looks from shore that one of the 4 markers outlining the shallows in the middle of South Wolfeboro Bay appears to be missing.

05-12-2014, 09:32 AM	#14
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, not that one, the one on Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,821 Thanks: 1,014 Thanked 880 Times in 514 Posts	The red and white Marker off of Long Island across from FL9 which is off of Sandy Island is missing.... in Short don't cut to close to Long Island coming up between Sandy and Long Island or there will be a price to pay. As Mentioned some lighters marks are already out.... and the Marine Patrol was seen out and about this weekend... So hopefully we will see things getting fixed shortly.... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

05-21-2014, 09:00 AM	#15
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts	Missing Spars Replaced The two black-top spar buoys mentioned in #7 above have been replaced.

05-21-2014, 09:42 AM	#16
Papa Bear Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Missing markers off of Dollar Island The markers have been replaced.

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05-21-2014, 11:26 AM	#18
MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	Black Top to the N/NE of five mile island is not missing, but barely visible above water, maybe a foot at best. Being black it's hard to see it especially on a rough day. This is NOT the one that is next to the flasher.