Garmin LakeVue Ultra Maps

[motionxxusxx]

We are looking to pick up a garmin 53DV echomap for our boat. We plan to purchase the lakevue ultra maps. Does anyone have experience with these maps? Are all bouys marked? How's the autorouting? I've got some positive feedback on the maps from a few people on this board. Currently I'm just using my iPhone with navionics+. Thanks for any info.


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by motionxxusxx

We are looking to pick up a garmin 53DV echomap for our boat. We plan to purchase the lakevue ultra maps. Does anyone have experience with these maps? Are all bouys marked? How's the autorouting? I've got some positive feedback on the maps from a few people on this board. Currently I'm just using my iPhone with navionics+. Thanks for any info.


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The maps are very good.

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[Dave R]

I just bought a 741XS that came loaded with LakeVu standard charts last month. If yours does too, try them before you drop coin on the ultra. The standard LakeVu charts are excellent and show the preferred route around the markers, so auto routing is not really needed. Also, if the 53DV is anything like my 741XS, creating a route on it is incredibly easy and intuitive. I made some 100+ mile routes on mine in about 5 minutes. You just pick a destination on the chart, click "route to" and it draws a straight line from your boat to that point. You then simply drag the straight line around obstacles and add turns, working from the destination back to your boat. I cannot think of a route on Winni that would take more than 2 or 3 minutes to create.

Regarding missing markers, the red topped spar at Umbrella Point is not on the LakeVu chart. That's the only one I've noticed missing. Two other things to note, if there's an FL, LakeVu does not show the corresponding spar with it on my GPS, but that might be due to the level of detail setting I use. LakeVu does not show rocks like the Bizer chart. You must be very careful exploring the wrong side of markers with LakeVu. This is a non-issue for me.

[motionxxusxx]

Originally Posted by Dave R

I just bought a 741XS that came loaded with LakeVu standard charts last month. If yours does too, try them before you drop coin on the ultra. The standard LakeVu charts are excellent and show the preferred route around the markers, so auto routing is not really needed. Also, if the 53DV is anything like my 741XS, creating a route on it is incredibly easy and intuitive. I made some 100+ mile routes on mine in about 5 minutes. You just pick a destination on the chart, click "route to" and it draws a straight line from your boat to that point. You then simply drag the straight line around obstacles and add turns, working from the destination back to your boat. I cannot think of a route on Winni that would take more than 2 or 3 minutes to create.



Regarding missing markers, the red topped spar at Umbrella Point is not on the LakeVu chart. That's the only one I've noticed missing. Two other things to note, if there's an FL, LakeVu does not show the corresponding spar with it on my GPS, but that might be due to the level of detail setting I use. LakeVu does not show rocks like the Bizer chart. You must be very careful exploring the wrong side of markers with LakeVu. This is a non-issue for me.

That's great to know. I'm curious if the lakeVu ultra shows the rocks like Bizer. I know navionics + shows the rocks. Anybody know?


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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by motionxxusxx

That's great to know. I'm curious if the lakeVu ultra shows the rocks like Bizer. I know navionics + shows the rocks. Anybody know?


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I use both--since the Bizer map doesn't show rocks within 150 feet of shore, there's very, very few places that it matters.

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[Rattletrap]

I have that exact set up. Still new to boating but, I've only seen one or two markers that weren't on it...sorry don't remember where they were. The Auto Guidance works really well there are a few places it will avoid like the GI bridge for height restrictions. But being that we've been all over the lake and I still have all my prop blades attached I'd say it works excellent especially if your new to the lake. I really liked the compass feature which gives true E/W N/S in relation to your heading.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Rattletrap

I have that exact set up. Still new to boating but, I've only seen one or two markers that weren't on it...sorry don't remember where they were. The Auto Guidance works really well there are a few places it will avoid like the GI bridge for height restrictions. But being that we've been all over the lake and I still have all my prop blades attached I'd say it works excellent especially if your new to the lake. I really liked the compass feature which gives true E/W N/S in relation to your heading.

You should be able to adjust your boat's air draft in the GPS settings so that it will allow routes to pass under bridges that you can fit under.

[DesertDweller]

Might just want to try the unit with the standard built in maps first and see if that is sufficient. I have the Ultra chip but have only tinkered with it as I find the standard stuff to be sufficient for what I do. With that said, you can get the Ultra chips for $130 or so now a days.

[Rattletrap]

Originally Posted by DesertDweller

Might just want to try the unit with the standard built in maps first and see if that is sufficient. I have the Ultra chip but have only tinkered with it as I find the standard stuff to be sufficient for what I do. With that said, you can get the Ultra chips for $130 or so now a days.

FYI The Auto Guidance will only work with the upgraded maps

[DesertDweller]

Originally Posted by Rattletrap

FYI The Auto Guidance will only work with the upgraded maps

Yep. The Ultra chip also has a bunch of other enhancements as well such as dynamic lake level, high resolution shading, and enhanced sonar images.

[motionxxusxx]

Originally Posted by DesertDweller

Yep. The Ultra chip also has a bunch of other enhancements as well such as dynamic lake level, high resolution shading, and enhanced sonar images.

I noticed that if I try autorouting with navionics + from smith point to 19 mile bay it very often can't find a route and takes you over land. Can the garmin find a auto route? We are on the northeast side of the lake near Smith Point. Lots of rocks around here.


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[Rattletrap]

Originally Posted by motionxxusxx

I noticed that if I try autorouting with navionics + from smith point to 19 mile bay it very often can't find a route and takes you over land. Can the garmin find a auto route? We are on the northeast side of the lake near Smith Point. Lots of rocks around here.


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Yes it can but even when I do use it. I still make sure I'm on the right side of the buoys .....using the "compass tape" on the GPS

[Phantom]

It's great that you all can plug in a route and the GPS will "Auto Guide" you ..... makes me feel a lot safer that you all know where your truly going, Know the names of the Islands & landmarks your passing and understand Navigating the Lake !!

But where are you when the GPS craps out for some unexplained reason and your on the opposite side of the Lake at the end of one of your "Auto Guided" tours with your chart upside down in your hands trying to figure out where the heck am I and what exactly was that route back the GPS was gonna take me?

Sorry guys -- too much reliance on electronics for me ....... although I do have & love my GPS, it is used 99% of the time at night and this is as a secondary comfort that I am where I think I am.

As anyone who regularly "night rides" knows .... some moonless nights can get pretty BLACK out there and the Islands all blend together as one with no discernible passage. Ever stare at a Floating Light, off in the distance, so long that your eys go blurry trying to maintain steerage towards it? In those cases -- I admit -- the GPS is a welcome addition to my boat .......... my wife clearly feels better too and we all know the phrase -- Happy wife, ....


As an "Old Fart" on the lake ... having boated here more than 35 yrs .... I simply think people should pick their head up, look around, enjoy the beauty and as Capt. .....LEARN the lake visually. Before you know it, you'll be anticipating the red top or black top having them all subconsciously logged and filed in your head (the best GPS of all)!!

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[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Phantom

It's great that you all can plug in a route and the GPS will "Auto Guide" you ..... makes me feel a lot safer that you all know where your truly going, Know the names of the Islands & landmarks your passing and understand Navigating the Lake !!

But where are you when the GPS craps out for some unexplained reason and your on the opposite side of the Lake at the end of one of your "Auto Guided" tours with your chart upside down in your hands trying to figure out where the heck am I and what exactly was that route back the GPS was gonna take me?

Three weeks ago, I started the second day of a 400 mile, one-way cruise on unfamiliar waters with a chart plotter that had suddenly quit working. I was really glad that I had purchased paper charts and had them out and ready to use. That said, I used the paper charts to navigate to a port that had a store that sold chart plotters where I promptly exercised my credit card and roughly doubled the cost of my vacation. It's awesome to be able to navigate with paper charts, but it's vastly safer, easier and less stressful to use GPS. I use my boat solely for pleasure. Anything I can do to make it more pleasurable is a plus. I was really glad I had all the tools and supplies required to install a new chart plotter, already on board. The purchase and installation only absorbed a couple of hours at the most.

[motionxxusxx]

Originally Posted by Phantom

It's great that you all can plug in a route and the GPS will "Auto Guide" you ..... makes me feel a lot safer that you all know where your truly going, Know the names of the Islands & landmarks your passing and understand Navigating the Lake !!



But where are you when the GPS craps out for some unexplained reason and your on the opposite side of the Lake at the end of one of your "Auto Guided" tours with your chart upside down in your hands trying to figure out where the heck am I and what exactly was that route back the GPS was gonna take me?



Sorry guys -- too much reliance on electronics for me ....... although I do have & love my GPS, it is used 99% of the time at night and this is as a secondary comfort that I am where I think I am.



As anyone who regularly "night rides" knows .... some moonless nights can get pretty BLACK out there and the Islands all blend together as one with no discernible passage. Ever stare at a Floating Light, off in the distance, so long that your eys go blurry trying to maintain steerage towards it? In those cases -- I admit -- the GPS is a welcome addition to my boat .......... my wife clearly feels better too and we all know the phrase -- Happy wife, ....





As an "Old Fart" on the lake ... having boated here more than 35 yrs .... I simply think people should pick their head up, look around, enjoy the beauty and as Capt. .....LEARN the lake visually. Before you know it, you'll be anticipating the red top or black top having them all subconsciously logged and filed in your head (the best GPS of all)!!



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Got my laminated Bizer map right next to me at all times.


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