April boating with a trailered I/O

Hillcountry · 04-15-2016, 09:19 PM

I know there are "no stupid questions" but here's one anyway...
Brand new to the I/O world of boats...
This time of year is there any "freeze" danger in using my new TRAILERED I/O Bowrider on nice days and trailering it home to sit in my driveway until the next outing without draining the block after each use?
The salesman at the marina had the block drained after our shakedown cruise and before we left with the boat to take it home.
So, it is "basically" winterized and sitting in my yard. What are the chances the water left in the motor will do damage by freezing if I take it out for a cruise then trailer home?
Is it necessary to drain the block after each outing in April?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts...

Outdoorsman · 04-15-2016, 10:30 PM

Water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Being "trailered" has no effect one way or the other.

jeffk · 04-16-2016, 01:47 AM

Yes, there IS a danger and the cost of replacing an cracked engine block is $$OUCH.

My boat is in for maintenance and part of that process is a test drive. The initial work was done weeks ago but the water test drive wasn't done until yesterday because of the risk of freezing or the expense of re-winterizing it after the test.

Why now? Because the 10 day forecast is all above freezing and by the end of the month the average daily low is well above freezing (37). Even the record lows from that point are not a HARD freeze, only 29 or above. The engine block would retain heat and a mild and short duration of freezing air would not be enough to freeze the block.

Also, I suspect the risk is greater for a boat sitting on a trailer (like mine also) than in the water. The lake temperature is around 40. Any boat sitting in it is going to have a hard time getting to freezing. A boat on a trailer is surrounded by the air which if cold enough will cause the boat to freeze as well.

For YOUR situation, if you are parking the boat around the lake or further south you could probably put it in from this point on. If parked further north, maybe soon. Check the weather records for your area. On the other hand, to be perfectly safe and not risk $10,000+ for a engine for your new boat, you might want to wait a couple more weeks and then look at the 10 day forecast for your home.

I'm feeling pretty safe for right here because the marina is quite experienced with this issue and if they are comfortable, so am I. However, I did double check them.

BTW, NOT a stupid question at all.

jeffk · 04-16-2016, 01:54 AM

Also, if you put it in and were surprised by an unexpected hard freeze, you could probably put a tarp over the back of the boat to the ground and put a 100 watt light (not a CFL

) under it to keep it a bit warmer.

VitaBene · 04-16-2016, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Being "trailered" has no effect one way or the other.

True but a boat's engine compartment stays warmer sitting in the water than in open air. I second the drop light, but would put it in the engine compartment.

jeffk · 04-16-2016, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitaBene

True but a boat's engine compartment stays warmer sitting in the water than in open air. I second the drop light, but would put it in the engine compartment.

RE: light, I would worry about gas fumes in the closed engine compartment. I figure slightly warmer air under the boat should keep things OK on a night that drops to 25 for a few hours.

If you wanted to get fancy you could even get one of those infrared lamps like they have in bathrooms. That would keep things toasty.

Hillcountry · 04-16-2016, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Being "trailered" has no effect one way or the other.

I answered your statement before I read the later answers which confirmed the fact that a boat in the water would have less chance of freezing.

The salesman where I purchased the boat said that "actually, a boat left in the water stays somewhat insulated from the surrounding colder air" being that the water temperature is nearer to 40 degrees.

Thoughts?

Hillcountry · 04-16-2016, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffk

Yes, there IS a danger and the cost of replacing an cracked engine block is $$OUCH.

My boat is in for maintenance and part of that process is a test drive. The initial work was done weeks ago but the water test drive wasn't done until yesterday because of the risk of freezing or the expense of re-winterizing it after the test.

Why now? Because the 10 day forecast is all above freezing and by the end of the month the average daily low is well above freezing (37). Even the record lows from that point are not a HARD freeze, only 29 or above. The engine block would retain heat and a mild and short duration of freezing air would not be enough to freeze the block.

Also, I suspect the risk is greater for a boat sitting on a trailer (like mine also) than in the water. The lake temperature is around 40. Any boat sitting in it is going to have a hard time getting to freezing. A boat on a trailer is surrounded by the air which if cold enough will cause the boat to freeze as well.

For YOUR situation, if you are parking the boat around the lake or further south you could probably put it in from this point on. If parked further north, maybe soon. Check the weather records for your area. On the other hand, to be perfectly safe and not risk $10,000+ for a engine for your new boat, you might want to wait a couple more weeks and then look at the 10 day forecast for your home.

I'm feeling pretty safe for right here because the marina is quite experienced with this issue and if they are comfortable, so am I. However, I did double check them.

BTW, NOT a stupid question at all.

Thank you for the knowledgeable, answer to my question.
I live West of the big lake and at a few hundred feet higher elevation and I watch the temperature drop each time I drive up from the main road (route 3A) to my house...usually several degrees and sometimes as much as 8-10 degrees.
The temperature has been below freezing the last few nights here and the even though the extended forecast has temps generally, in the above freezing category, I do believe that it will be lower at my elevation.

I think, in the interest of not doing any harm to my new boat's motor, I will wait a couple more weeks to take her out even though the temptation is great, especially with a couple of 60-70 degree days (today and Sunday) in the making.
As much as I want to go cruising and fishing, I think I'll wait based on your knowledge and experience.

Thanks again! Great forum here!

Hillcountry · 04-16-2016, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffk

RE: light, I would worry about gas fumes in the closed engine compartment. I figure slightly warmer air under the boat should keep things OK on a night that drops to 25 for a few hours.

If you wanted to get fancy you could even get one of those infrared lamps like they have in bathrooms. That would keep things toasty.

Yup...thought of that too...we have a garage that would accommodate the boat and trailer (folding tongue) and I did think about a light bulb in the engine compartment with perhaps a small fan to move the air around.
That said, I guess the next question would be "would a light bulb be dangerous in the boat rather than beneath it? Ahhh...decisions,decisions...

jeffk · 04-16-2016, 07:21 AM

If you put the boat in a closed garage I doubt it would get down to freezing inside with the lowest temps, even in your area probably around 28. In that type of situation you could put a small space heater with a fan blowing under the boat and it would be plenty warm but again, I doubt you would need it.

Next year, having got past new boat fever, you will probably be more willing to wait for warmer temps.

thinkxingu · 04-16-2016, 10:07 PM

My attached garage almost never gets below freezing--we've had one frozen puddle in ten years, and that was in a super frigid January.

I'd be in the water tomorrow!

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dpg · 04-18-2016, 10:45 AM

I assume you don't have a garage it'll fit in? If so just put it in there.....

Hillcountry · 04-18-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

I assume you don't have a garage it'll fit in? If so just put it in there.....

I do have a garage and if I take it out early I'll back it in there...thanks!

MAXUM · 04-18-2016, 03:31 PM

The other thing to consider is it may dip below freezing but not for an extended period of time. Remember that it takes a while to get the temperature of the water cold enough to freeze even if the ambient air temps are below freezing.

At this point I would not at all be terribly concerned about it. Not unless we were to get a cold snap where temps were staying at or below freezing for a couple of days.

Outdoorsman · 04-18-2016, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitaBene

True but a boat's engine compartment stays warmer sitting in the water than in open air. I second the drop light, but would put it in the engine compartment.

Good point. I never considered that water temp. would be a factor when the boat is sitting in the water. Thank you for the insight.

dpg · 04-19-2016, 06:05 AM

If you have a garage you can utilize your out of the woods now, go for it...

04-15-2016, 09:19 PM	#1
Hillcountry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: In the hills Posts: 2,346 Thanks: 1,589 Thanked 763 Times in 457 Posts	April boating with a trailered I/O I know there are "no stupid questions" but here's one anyway... Brand new to the I/O world of boats... This time of year is there any "freeze" danger in using my new TRAILERED I/O Bowrider on nice days and trailering it home to sit in my driveway until the next outing without draining the block after each use? The salesman at the marina had the block drained after our shakedown cruise and before we left with the boat to take it home. So, it is "basically" winterized and sitting in my yard. What are the chances the water left in the motor will do damage by freezing if I take it out for a cruise then trailer home? Is it necessary to drain the block after each outing in April? Thanks in advance for your thoughts...

04-16-2016, 01:54 AM	#4
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,130 Thanks: 201 Thanked 421 Times in 239 Posts	Addendum Also, if you put it in and were surprised by an unexpected hard freeze, you could probably put a tarp over the back of the boat to the ground and put a 100 watt light (not a CFL) under it to keep it a bit warmer.

04-15-2016, 10:30 PM	#2
Outdoorsman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 815 Thanks: 113 Thanked 193 Times in 126 Posts	Water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Being "trailered" has no effect one way or the other.

04-16-2016, 01:47 AM	#3
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,130 Thanks: 201 Thanked 421 Times in 239 Posts	Yes, there IS a danger and the cost of replacing an cracked engine block is $$OUCH. My boat is in for maintenance and part of that process is a test drive. The initial work was done weeks ago but the water test drive wasn't done until yesterday because of the risk of freezing or the expense of re-winterizing it after the test. Why now? Because the 10 day forecast is all above freezing and by the end of the month the average daily low is well above freezing (37). Even the record lows from that point are not a HARD freeze, only 29 or above. The engine block would retain heat and a mild and short duration of freezing air would not be enough to freeze the block. Also, I suspect the risk is greater for a boat sitting on a trailer (like mine also) than in the water. The lake temperature is around 40. Any boat sitting in it is going to have a hard time getting to freezing. A boat on a trailer is surrounded by the air which if cold enough will cause the boat to freeze as well. For YOUR situation, if you are parking the boat around the lake or further south you could probably put it in from this point on. If parked further north, maybe soon. Check the weather records for your area. On the other hand, to be perfectly safe and not risk $10,000+ for a engine for your new boat, you might want to wait a couple more weeks and then look at the 10 day forecast for your home. I'm feeling pretty safe for right here because the marina is quite experienced with this issue and if they are comfortable, so am I. However, I did double check them. BTW, NOT a stupid question at all.

04-16-2016, 07:21 AM	#10
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,130 Thanks: 201 Thanked 421 Times in 239 Posts	If you put the boat in a closed garage I doubt it would get down to freezing inside with the lowest temps, even in your area probably around 28. In that type of situation you could put a small space heater with a fan blowing under the boat and it would be plenty warm but again, I doubt you would need it. Next year, having got past new boat fever, you will probably be more willing to wait for warmer temps.

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04-16-2016, 10:07 PM	#11
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,943 Thanks: 1,153 Thanked 1,962 Times in 1,212 Posts	My attached garage almost never gets below freezing--we've had one frozen puddle in ten years, and that was in a super frigid January. I'd be in the water tomorrow! Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk

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dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,560 Thanks: 149 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	I assume you don't have a garage it'll fit in? If so just put it in there.....

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MAXUM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kuna ID Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 246 Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts	The other thing to consider is it may dip below freezing but not for an extended period of time. Remember that it takes a while to get the temperature of the water cold enough to freeze even if the ambient air temps are below freezing. At this point I would not at all be terribly concerned about it. Not unless we were to get a cold snap where temps were staying at or below freezing for a couple of days.

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