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Old 06-30-2013, 06:09 PM   #1
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New restaurant in town. Soft opening Sunday 4pm in Gilford across from mountain view marina.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:27 PM   #2
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New restaurant in town. Soft opening Sunday 4pm in Gilford across from mountain view marina.
I was by there today and was wondering when it was going to open.

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Old 06-30-2013, 07:32 PM   #3
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Default Juniors Crush House is OPEN!

Went to the soft opening tonite! LOVE what they did with the old Cherrystones! The place is warm and inviting and the beer was cold! The menu is very reasonably priced and there is something for everyone! Great time!


Best of luck the Cangialose family!


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So when is the 'hard' opening?
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They should be open from here on out!

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Intrigued by the name. What is the significance of "Crush House"? Is it related to crushing grapes for wine?
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Not much on there yet but here's their Facebook page (you don't have to be a FB member to view):

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Junio...43638552481537
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Intrigued by the name. What is the significance of "Crush House"? Is it related to crushing grapes for wine?
I was told they offer specialty drinks using crushed ice...
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They have a number of signature fresh squeezed fruit cocktails served over crushed ice....


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tonight we tried Jrs. crush house for dinner. I understand its a fairly new place nxt. door to parafunailia. the service was excellent, the food ? a little pricey. but pretty decent. the huge drawback to this place is the horendes parking MUD lot. how they ever opened the doors before putting in a descent parking lot Is beyond me. Its way out back of the bldg. and all mud. deep mud.

wouldn't be my most favorite place. my real favorite Is patricks pub. should have gone there but wanted to try the new place.

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Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.
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Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.
That's a pretty ambitious statement. I don't think Junior or anybody else will crush Patrick's.
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Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.
Alrighty then... I don't think so!

I wish there were a Patrick's on the North side of the lake
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Okay --

You all have me intrigued.
We love a new restaurant to try just like the rest of you --
BUT SOMEONE give a little more detail ...

Type of restaurant (Pub / Ice Cream stand / Sandwich shop / (in)formal dining, etc.) ???

Typical menu items are ?

Has anyone thought to snap an iPhone pic of the menu and post as there is no website?

We'll be heading up in 10 days and we already have --along with our standard list of must eat at restaurants, yes Lauren we're coming up -- added Akwa Marine as a must try... now perhaps Junior's Crush House ?




p.s. -- Patrick's will do just fine living off the Mountain View crowd as they always have in the past
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Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.
I agree that the food at Patricks is just plain ok, but I think it would take a lot more than Juniors to "crush" Patricks.
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Alrighty then... I don't think so!

I wish there were a Patrick's on the North side of the lake
Went to Juniors Sat nite, full house inside and out.
Good service
Our crowd had Steak capresse salad w/shrimp Haddock broiled and Fried seafood.
food was great! Will be going back soon.
MVYC crowd has found another hangout! Go Jr.!
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We ate dinner there for the first timer. Thought it was pricey for the portions. Drinks could have been a little stronger. Need to improve on their mango sauce. Fish needed a little more seasoning. Little tweaks will help them be successful. Just trying to help. We will be back again.
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I agree that the food at Patricks is just plain ok, but I think it would take a lot more than Juniors to "crush" Patricks.
Patrick's has the best butternut squash in the world. Better than Ruth Chris in my opinion.

I realize squash is only a side, but it is worth the trip.

Glad to hear Junior's Crush House is doing well. I wish them the best.

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We ate at juniors Tuesday night and it was pretty good overall. The dinner menu was a bit more formal than the menu we looked at at our motel(silver sands) but they were very obliging about cooking the sandwich items we had gone there for. I had the "triple threat" which was pulled pork , smoked ham and crisp bacon on a ciabatta roll. Excellent. My wife had a burger which she liked very much. The food was hot and fresh and it all came to us in a timely manner.
The wait staff was friendly and helpful. I had one of their signature orange crush drinks and if I'm brutally honest , it was pretty lackluster. I found it watery and lacking in much fruit juice taste (or much vodka taste for that matter) and it wouldn't kill them to garnish the glass with an orange slice , either.
That quibble aside , it was nice to see the place open again after 12 years (!)
And I hope they do well. It's a great location and we love that deck.
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I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????
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Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.
I tottaly disagree Patricks has very good meals not just sandwich & apps. we eat dinner there at least once a week. & never had a bad meal In all the years we have been going there

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I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????
I suppose that if you were listing to many positive responses one would assume.
But its true, Juniors is doing a great job and I am a Patron thats all
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I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????
Do you see something I don't ? I see one post from a new user that is more critical than positive. The other 3 reviews are from members that have been members for 8+ years (regardless of # of posts), so I don't get it.......

On a different note - someone should post a menu as they don't list one on their facebook page. How a new business can decide they don't need to have a website with their info is completely beyond me.
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I think my family is pretty easy to please and have never had a good meal at Patricks. Nothing impressive and nothing our daughter liked. Usually crowded, probably more proximity than quality. Crush could do well.
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Do you see something I don't ? I see one post from a new user that is more critical than positive. The other 3 reviews are from members that have been members for 8+ years (regardless of # of posts), so I don't get it.......

BIGSTAN: Yes, I do see something you do not see. My comment was the number of posts not the years they've been members of the forum.

Fodalo = 15 posts
FranklyH500 = 2 posts
WaterBoyZGal = 5 posts

Not many posts for the number of years they've been around. That's all just noticed that.
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I tottaly disagree Patricks has very good meals not just sandwich & apps. we eat dinner there at least once a week. & never had a bad meal In all the years we have been going there

had dinner at Patricks last night again with another couple. wife had mac & cheese, I had prime rib. other couple had bonless ribs. & the other had steak tips all meals where serverd to us perfect. waitress was also perfect. It was extremely busy, we had to wait 1/2 hr. again Patricks was perfect

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For me, it is the quality of the post, and not the quantity. Nice comments made by long time members of this Forum, who for whatever reasons have chosen not to post hundreds of times on the Forum. Not for me to judge why, just whether I understand their position on their post.

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For me, it is the quality of the post, and not the quantity. Nice comments made by long time members of this Forum, who for whatever reasons have chosen not to post hundreds of times on the Forum. Not for me to judge why, just whether I understand their position on their post.

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I've been going to Patrick's off and on for 6 years. It's a pub so not everything is perfect. I do love their prime ribs, their soups and stews are great. Service for me has always been pretty good.

I had lunch at Crush on Thursday: Had to try a few things so I made a pig of myself: Chili Dog, French Fries, Hamburger, Onion Rings, and a Ruby Red Crush. My review: not bad. The Ruby Red was refreshing, the chili dog was very good. The burger was a bit overwhelmed by the massive (but tasty) bun. Onion Rings and Fries good but basic.

It was a late lunch, after 1pm and there were not too many people around. The bartender was nice. My order was taken promptly, but it took a little longer than I would have expected to bring the food. Not ridiculously long, though.

I liked Crush. I'm sure I'll go back. Is it better than Patrick's? Too early to tell for me. It's different and that's good. I'll probably bounce back and forth between them depending on my mood. I am glad Crush is there as an option.
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I certainly don't work for juniors. We stay at silver sands one week every summer. We live in newton , ma.
I thought the food was good , but I was a little disappointed in my drink , that's all.
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I certainly don't work for juniors. We stay at silver sands one week every summer. We live in newton , ma.
I thought the food was good , but I was a little disappointed in my drink , that's all.
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We were out with the kids and not by boat so we figured we would try it. We got there at 5:30 and wanted something light and the sandwich menu looked good. When we were about to be seated we asked how the shrimp poboy was, we were told that the samdwiches are not offered after 5:00 unless seated in the bar area. We said ok, we would like to sit in there, the answer was that the high tops in the bar but that the were only two so if we had four, the sandwiches were not an option.

Not wanting a full meal, we left. Maybe we will go again but we tried weathervane at weirs and we got the seafood fix we wanted and a $5 margarita, ill go back there.
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When we were about to be seated we asked how the shrimp poboy was, we were told that the samdwiches are not offered after 5:00 unless seated in the bar area. We said ok, we would like to sit in there, the answer was that the high tops in the bar but that the were only two so if we had four, the sandwiches were not an option.
This is something I don't understand.I can see if they don't want to serve those sandwiches in the dining room but if there is no room in the bar I can't understand why you wouldn't make an exception and instead let customers go elsewhere instead.
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The drinks are fantastic! They have several fresh squeezed fruit cocktails, and when I say fresh, I mean they aren't pouring the fruit from a container, Danielle (our bartender) took the time to squeeze the juice from the orange into my Tropical Crush Drink that I ordered. My husband ordered a Bloody Mary after he saw that they had jalapeno flavored vodka! Don't know any place in the Lakes Region that you can get THAT! He usually won't order it unless the restaurant stocks Peppered Vodka (usually only the fine and upscale restaurants stock that), but that was a great drink! We watched Danielle take the time to make each drink order that came in, and each was consistent and of good quality. We stopped by for lunch and had a great Cuban sandwich and my husband ordered a sausage sub. Both were excellent and the prices are WAY more reasonable than Woodland's Tavern in Alton.

Will definitely be back (our friends recommended this and we will continue to bring them as well) throughout the winter, since we are locals. So glad something finally opened in that location, renovations looks great and very clean and inviting. Go check it out, highly recommend!
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Let me start by tell any of you who might care that I am a legit customer of Juniors and I am not an employee and I don't know anyone that works there or the owners. I specifically joined the forum today just so I could post a comment about Juniors. So you'll see I've got no posts or comments in my column, but I am indeed a real person and not asked to post here.

We went to Juniors around the time they opened, July 2nd or so, and had a fantastic dining experience. We were seated promptly and the waitress (sorry can't remember her name) came & took our drink order. We found the food to be excellent, on a scale of 1:10 I'd give it a 9, maybe 9.5. Service about an 8. The only reason I'd give it an 8 is because part of my order didn't come until the end of my meal. I ordered a salad with a side of buffalo chicken and the chicken didn't come until my dining partners had finished their meals. The waitress came several times to apologize telling us that my buffalo chicken part of the order had gotten misplaced in the kitchen, which clearly wasn't her fault. Towards the end of the meal a woman came around asking if everything was ok and did we enjoy our meal and we told her about the chicken and she immediately told us that she's make sure to remove it from our tab. I found the prices to be well well well within what we expected to pay for the quality of the food.

I do agree with some of the other comments about Patrick's. They are hit or miss in our book. Some nights pretty decent, other nights not so much. I personally think they are way over rated for the price & atmosphere. It's always way too loud, the music they think they need to offer is very irritating when trying to carry on any kind of conversation. And I also think, personally, that their prices are way over priced, especially for what you get, i.e., the atmosphere (or lack thereof), and the service is sooooooooo slow it's pathetic. We've stopped there several times in the past thinking we'd grab a quick burger or club sandwich at the bar only to be in there over an hour, so we don't go there anymore if we're pressed for time.

This isn't meant to be a bash Patrick's comment really, just trying to compare Juniors to Patricks and hoping upon hope that Juniors does great and actually DOES give Patrick's a run for their money....I've made that comment many times while driving by the empty Cherrystone, "wish someone would open this again and give Patrick's some competition and a run for their money".

I think it's funny how the comments here are so diverse & all over the place, comparing Junior's to Patrick's and vice versa. In the end it's all about the experience each one of us has/had on a particular night. Our meal was great, (minus the missing buffalo chicken until the end) and the prices were very reasonable. We most definitely will return most likely again & again!!!
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Went to Juniors for a late lunch on Sunday, around 3:00.. We were seated quickly and offered drinks right away. Soup( chicken tortilla ) and sandwich special $8, all 5 of us had the special, could choose from grilled chicken, fried chicken, chicken parm, pulled pork, and meatloaf. All turned out terrific, will definitely repeat!
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Two of us dropped in at Juniors for a late lunch Sunday afternoon around 2ish. We had a couple drinks,bbq chicken wings for an app and a couple of sandwiches. Nice place and good service and all the employees were friendly. Will return their again. I wish them luck.
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I haven't been yet. It's always nice to have options. I love Lyon's den, Patrick's is okay. They're both always consistent.

You need to be accepted as a friend on Facebook which I think is odd being that it's a public place. But it's a free country as to how one wants to or not want to market themselves.

Looking forward to checking it out this coming up weekend. I will report back.
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Family ate here last weekend, for first time. A little crowded but no real wait. The host told us that they had table available, great view of marina but it was next to a party of 16 and could be a bit loud. We said fine, we'll take it.

It was a bit loud, but not bad. Great service by the host for first warning us, and then offering to move us just after we sat down. We stayed where we were and enjoyed ourselves.

The meal was very good. I had seafood Alfredo. Wife had stuffed haddock. Daughter had a steak salad and chili. I admit to having some of my daughter's steak and I would gladly get her salad for my entree. All were great. The service was top notch and friendly and the prices were reasonable. We'll be back for sure.
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What a great article in the Weirs Times today about Junior's and how they started. It's nice to know that his wife was a crucial factor while running her own business in Laconia.

I haven't been to the restaurant yet but we will have to give it a try when over that way.
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There were 4 of us who went for appetizers on Sunday at 5 p.m. A few of us had the Orange Crush. Very refreshing. We ordered the following:

Chicken fingers (plain): lightly breaded and fried to perfection. they were cooked just right and the breading has a nice taste against the honey mustard sauce. The hot sauce, was really hot so If you like hot you're in luck.

Mozz sticks: They're you're plain ole Jane sticks. Good none the less, though the marina sauce was lacking a little spice.

Potato ribbons w/ cheese and bacon: nice size basket, plenty for 4 people. Unique and I will definitely get these again!

Crab cakes: Okay, so it was one crab cake. I didn't like the fact that it was one cake but it is what is is. They were good, a little too flat and stringy for my taste. It could have been cooked a bit longer. In my opinion, and I make a mean crab cake, this cake could have been split into two (add a little more meat) and don't make them so flat. It was a complete disappointment.

The service was okay. There were few diners there, but it appeared that our waitress was a little distracted. After sitting there with our apps for a few minutes, we needed to ask for napkins and utensils. In the waitresses own admission, we were here only table. Her lack of attentiveness still puzzles me . . . I guess it's because people like us still give a full 20% tip even if the service is so, so. We are local business owners ourselves and I know that there isn't a lot of money to be made up here so I consider it giving back to the community.

The view was good. It doesn't compare to lakeside living but then again, who am I going to get to serve me drinks and apps at the house. It's always nice to get out on a deck with a slight breeze and just enjoy the sun with family. I'm looking forward to dinner or lunch there someday soon.

As you can see, I am not a professional critic but I hope it gives some insight.

p.s. In my humble opinion, they need to clean up the back of the restaurant a little bit more to make it more like a restaurant and less like an unfinished back yard.
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You all have me intrigued.
We love a new restaurant to try just like the rest of you --
BUT SOMEONE give a little more detail ...

Type of restaurant (Pub / Ice Cream stand / Sandwich shop / (in)formal dining, etc.) ???

Typical menu items are ?

Has anyone thought to snap an iPhone pic of the menu and post as there is no website?

We'll be heading up in 10 days and we already have --along with our standard list of must eat at restaurants, yes Lauren we're coming up -- added Akwa Marine as a must try... now perhaps Junior's Crush House ?




p.s. -- Patrick's will do just fine living off the Mountain View crowd as they always have in the past
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Wife and I went to dinner Saturday night at Juniors. We both felt that the service was fair since we had to get our own drinks as we waited for deck seating and from there they forgot about us until we decided to just go and sit down at a table. We had the sea food platter and shrimp dinner and we both loved the food but again the service sucked. Hope they get there stuff together since we thought it was a great place to go for dinner and a drink.
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There only about 3 cars in the parking lot. I ask the waitress that I need a quick bite to eat, she says she will take my order immediately. I ordered chili as you would think it would be quick.
I was sitting on the front deck and I swear they have forgotten me. I went inside to get the waitress and she said she will check on the order. She delivered the order and it is cold! I was in a hurry so I had the change, paid the order and left. It's been almost an hour since I pulled in.
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My yearly trek to the Lake begins this Saturday and I am looking forward to trying Junior's out. Been hoping a new restaurant would open at this location since the Cherrystone closed.
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We ate at Junior's last Monday and the food wasn't bad. Only one waitress was working so we were very skeptical of how the service would be, but since most of the patrons were at the bar and only 2 other tables were occupied she did a pretty good job. The 4 of us had no complaints about our food. I had the Sirloin, my husband had the Steak Pizziola, one daughter had the Chicken Alfredo and the other had the Haddock.

However, while we all enjoyed the food we were not very happy with what happened when my 21 year old daughter ordered a drink. Keep in mind when I tell this story that we were there as a family. I am 50, my husband is 64 and my other daughter is 24. I was the only one who ordered a drink when we arrived, a glass of wine...my husband who does not drink had a coffee and my other daughter had soda. We were obviously there as a family and not to party or allow our daughters to pass off fake ID. Anyway, as dinner did take a little while to arrive, my youngest daughter decided to try one of their "crush" drinks. She pulled out her NJ Photo license for ID and when she ordered her drink and was asked for it happily handed it to the waitress. The waitress then looked at it and when it should have then been handed back to my daughter said she would have to show it to the bartender and walked off with it. After a couple minutes she then came back and said that my daughter would have to go up to the bartender. By this time, our food had arrived at the table, but my daughter went up to the bar. As she stood there waiting, the bartender had his back to her for a couple of minutes showing my daughter's ID to one of the people at the Bar! When I saw this I went up there and told the waitress to have the bartender acknowledge that my daughter was up there as her food was getting cold and what he was doing was wrong. He finally walked over and then asked her what her middle name was and her date of birth. By now I'm pissed and my food is getting cold. I told him we were there as a family and he completely ignored me so we went back to the table.

Long story short, we will not go back there even though the food wasn't bad.
My daughter gave the waitress a legal, photo ID from the State of NJ and was eating with her family, not a table full of questionably aged youth. While I expect any establishment to ask for ID, a waitress or bartender should be able to use discretion. My daughter was embarassed and I was angry. Not one other restaurant went further than asking for ID from either of my daughters during our vacation and we will be going back to them next year.
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Most waitress' and bartenders are very cautious about serving liquor to anyone under the age of 35. Too many times it comes back to they are the ones responsible if the person drinking gets into trouble. Just common sense being ignored and people not responsible for their own acts.
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Most waitress' and bartenders are very cautious about serving liquor to anyone under the age of 35. Too many times it comes back to they are the ones responsible if the person drinking gets into trouble. Just common sense being ignored and people not responsible for their own acts.
True, but the bartender or server has no business showing the ID to patrons at the bar. It is possible that one of the ppl at the bar was a manager or owner, but we have no way of knowing that.
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Chip129 True, I never thought of that. And you are right, he should not show the ID to anyone else, except the manager.
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I agree that he shouldn't have shown the ID to anyone at the bar, but we don't know who that person was. Could have been the owner, another employee who was off shift and they were looking to confirm the validity of the ID. I realize if the daughter is actually of age and the ID is legit it would be frustrating to be refused but I commend the server and bartender for doing their job. Too many ID's look good but are actually fakes. Clearly the bartender doesn't like to refuse to sell alcohol so must have had a true concern about how valid it was. Doesn't matter if she wasn't partying and was with her parents. He serves someone under age, he loses his job, the restaurant loses their license and someone could get hurt or killed leaving him responsible. I haven't been to Juniors yet but support them in their decision to serve alcohol in a responsible manner.
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It could have been a state liquor inspector "undercover".
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While I realize that restaurants/bars have to be cautious, again, discretion can be used when going any further than actually asking for ID. If the bartender was so concerned that the ID was not real, then he should have come over to the table (we were not far from the bar), not have my daughter get up from our table when our food had already been served. Then when she gets to the bar, he is on the other side showing the ID to whoever it was, and left her standing there for a good 2 minutes until I asked the waitress to please have him acknowledge that she was standing there and I went up to be with her.

I'm sorry, the whole thing was handled wrong and I was insulted. I guess there are families who would let there daughter use a fake ID to get drinks when the family goes out for dinner (?? maybe), but I sure don't know of any and I certainly never did!!! And I was the only other person at the table having a drink, my husband and my oldest daughter weren't, so we didn't look like the "Party" family.

Anyway..... I'm letting it go and reflecting on the wonderful vacation I just came home from and looking forward to going back to the Lake next year as I have for the last 45 years or so.
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I agree that he shouldn't have shown the ID to anyone at the bar, but we don't know who that person was. Could have been the owner, another employee who was off shift and they were looking to confirm the validity of the ID. I realize if the daughter is actually of age and the ID is legit it would be frustrating to be refused but I commend the server and bartender for doing their job. Too many ID's look good but are actually fakes. Clearly the bartender doesn't like to refuse to sell alcohol so must have had a true concern about how valid it was. Doesn't matter if she wasn't partying and was with her parents. He serves someone under age, he loses his job, the restaurant loses their license and someone could get hurt or killed leaving him responsible. I haven't been to Juniors yet but support them in their decision to serve alcohol in a responsible manner.
Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.
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Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.
A couple things on this post. First, I totally agree that they should never have been showing it to other patrons. That is in my field (medical) highly illegal.
The bartender should have come over to the table instead of the other way around.
As for the "she is 21 and it was not a fake". There are places, at least in MA, where they will not serve an out of state person unless they are 24 or 25 (I forget the actual age). The sporting arenas are part of this and I've seen it a couple of bars in the Boston area.
As for the you were with family, I know a bunch of parents that would get their kids drinks before they were of age.
Like I said at the beginning, I agree it was totally handled the wrong way though.
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Unfortunately only owners and managers are to take the course and be certified. Bartenders are only required to be 21.
The theory is that the owners/managers are required to train the bartenders and wait staff responsible serving but this is not enforced. The seasonal changeover of staff makes it harder to train.
In other states, owners, managers, bartenders are certified before serving alcohol. In some states bartenders are required to 'pour' liquor correctly before getting their certificates.
So there can be confusion as to 'how to read a valid id', in this state. I notice in some restaurants the waitstaff will call the owner or manager to a table to make sure id is proper. This is the first time I heard of a watstaff bringing the id to the bar. Sounds like id theft to me.
Believe or not in NH, one can be 80 years old, and without a valid id cannot be served alcohol. This has not really been enforced, yet I have seen liquor inspectors and 'anal' LEOs uses this as a ground to evict someone they may not like.
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I agree with everyone that the bartender has to be responsible for who he serves. But - don't we all have the right to know who is looking at our IDs? Yes - it could have been the owner or an inspector... or it could have been a friend of the bartender's or another customer from New Jersey. I wouldn't want my personal information including my address passed around.
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I think you guys need a little more info....

In NH.... the buck stops with the bartender. The end. If the bartender serves a drink to an underage person (regardless of fake id or not) the bartender WILL be arrested. Not the owner, not the waitress, not the bouncer at the door.... just the bartender. The owner/business will be subject to fines and/or loss of liquor license. The Liquor enforcement in the Weirs Beach area is Draconian! The Liquor Inspector for the area (his name is Kurt) is around constantly and they run stings all the time.

The NH Liquor Commission offers TEAM (Total Education in Alcohol Management) classes for businesses and their employees. Most of the businesses I know REQUIRE their alcohol servers to take this class. It addresses ID's & how to spot a fake, the security features required in an ID, over-serving etc... When you take this class, you are taught to be extremely careful with out of state ID's. Those are the ones that are mostly faked.

In the TEAM class you are taught not to look at the situation that ID is presented. For example, if you look at WinniLuvrs story, just because your daughter although legal, (barely at 24 and likely looks younger) was having dinner with her family presented a valid out of state ID... it is still up to the bartender to do due diligence. Its their *ss on the line. They don't know who your daughter is, and they are taught to be wary of out of state ID's. perhaps they looked up NJ ID's online to verify the security features...

Bottom line is, if you are younger and you want to consume alcohol, you can bet that your ID WILL BE SCRUTINIZED.... Its not ID theft, its not harmful to you in any way.

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Winni Luvr - You mentioned (more than once) your daughter was there with her family and not a bunch of kids but that doesn't matter one bit. I do agree what they did seems wrong but they need to be careful and do the right thing. Doesn't matter if your daughter was there with her grandparents or a huge group of kids, the drinking age is what it is. I know what you mean by saying that I really do, but....................
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Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.
I was sitting at the table next to you and saw you both go to the bar I thought you were more upset that the food was already on the table and you had to get up to have the ID checked? I know your daughter said she was 24 but she did look younger and I would have carded her as well, then with an out of state license a manager or owner should have come to your table not you having to go to the bar.The bar had 4 people at that time 2 were regulars. The father was around he was outside smoking when we came in.They have a few things to learn in the restaurant business if the want to stay in business IMHO.
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So here's my take on Junior's Crush House the 2nd time around. Thursday night out, not too crowded in the dining area, although the bar was packed, sanding room only. Guess we have a lot of drinkers in town!! (joike)!! Service was so-so, they had a few specials which I think were priced pretty high but my complaint was the lack of any communication with the waitstaff or even the owner/manager??? No one came to our table at all throughout the meal to make sure we were satisfied, did we need anything, was everything cooked ok, etc. The owner (or at least I think it was, it was a guy who looked like he was someone other than a hired host) seated us, and never came back, never said enjoy, never made any conversation whatsoever. The waitress was ok, didn't really do much for the experience as well and she looked to be an older, seasoned waitress so not sure if she was just in a bad mood. The clincher was when she left the tab, still didn't ask us if everything was ok, didn't ask us about dessert, nothing. Then when we left the "guy" who I think was the owner was standing down in the entrance and never said "have a good night" "did you enjoy your meal"....nothing. So not sure we'll be returning there. Like I said, food was just so-so...I got a steak that I couldn't really chew, it was on the tough side and it was one of their specials. One other person got steak tips, he said they were delicious and
last diner got some sort of seafood Alfredo which he said was just ok. So scratch it from our list, maybe we'll try again come winter but for now it's a no go.
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You nailed it. I couldn't figure out what about my experience was uncomfortable. The place lacked actual personality. I don't need to be schmoozed, but common courtesy is needed. We are paying a premium for a service.

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So here's my take on Junior's Crush House the 2nd time around. Thursday night out, not too crowded in the dining area, although the bar was packed, sanding room only. Guess we have a lot of drinkers in town!! (joike)!! Service was so-so, they had a few specials which I think were priced pretty high but my complaint was the lack of any communication with the waitstaff or even the owner/manager??? No one came to our table at all throughout the meal to make sure we were satisfied, did we need anything, was everything cooked ok, etc. The owner (or at least I think it was, it was a guy who looked like he was someone other than a hired host) seated us, and never came back, never said enjoy, never made any conversation whatsoever. The waitress was ok, didn't really do much for the experience as well and she looked to be an older, seasoned waitress so not sure if she was just in a bad mood. The clincher was when she left the tab, still didn't ask us if everything was ok, didn't ask us about dessert, nothing. Then when we left the "guy" who I think was the owner was standing down in the entrance and never said "have a good night" "did you enjoy your meal"....nothing. So not sure we'll be returning there. Like I said, food was just so-so...I got a steak that I couldn't really chew, it was on the tough side and it was one of their specials. One other person got steak tips, he said they were delicious and
last diner got some sort of seafood Alfredo which he said was just ok. So scratch it from our list, maybe we'll try again come winter but for now it's a no go.
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Went in for lunch on 11/2 around 1pm with a friend and sat at the bar. Drinks are still tasty and served fresh! Sandwiches were served hot and tasted good (although for only having 2 other people in the entire place, they did take a bit longer than I expected, but not a complaint). I had the Cuban, friend had the Ruban, both were great. For dessert we had the tiramisu and cheesecake, both were also great. Service was fast and prompt. Second time in. Still haven't tried them for dinner, but I like them very much for lunch!
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