Well...Where's the owners comments on this one? I find it interesting how he/they selectively respond to the post's they want. And the car ads are what make a lot of people think it's a sleazy industry. Carefully read the ads on TV (if you have the time to) they state "starting at $18,600, price as shown $26,800" Huh????? Oh I forgot the car mfg made 16 at $18,600