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WaterBoyzGal 06-30-2013 06:09 PM

Juniors crush house
 
New restaurant in town. Soft opening Sunday 4pm in Gilford across from mountain view marina.

ishoot308 06-30-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterBoyzGal (Post 206863)
New restaurant in town. Soft opening Sunday 4pm in Gilford across from mountain view marina.

I was by there today and was wondering when it was going to open.

Thanks!

Dan

Woodsy 06-30-2013 07:32 PM

Juniors Crush House is OPEN!
 
Went to the soft opening tonite! LOVE what they did with the old Cherrystones! The place is warm and inviting and the beer was cold! The menu is very reasonably priced and there is something for everyone! Great time!


Best of luck the Cangialose family!


Woodsy

Bigstan 07-01-2013 09:13 AM

So when is the 'hard' opening?

Woodsy 07-01-2013 09:18 AM

They should be open from here on out!

Woodsy

Little Bear 07-01-2013 09:58 AM

Intrigued by the name. What is the significance of "Crush House"? Is it related to crushing grapes for wine?

webmaster 07-01-2013 10:30 AM

Not much on there yet but here's their Facebook page (you don't have to be a FB member to view):

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Junio...43638552481537

Wood Chopper 07-01-2013 11:21 AM

Drinks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 206913)
Intrigued by the name. What is the significance of "Crush House"? Is it related to crushing grapes for wine?

I was told they offer specialty drinks using crushed ice...:cheers:

Woodsy 07-01-2013 11:26 AM

They have a number of signature fresh squeezed fruit cocktails served over crushed ice....


Woodsy

fpartri497 07-10-2013 08:10 PM

Juniors chrush house
 
tonight we tried Jrs. crush house for dinner. I understand its a fairly new place nxt. door to parafunailia. the service was excellent, the food ? a little pricey. but pretty decent. the huge drawback to this place is the horendes parking MUD lot. how they ever opened the doors before putting in a descent parking lot Is beyond me. Its way out back of the bldg. and all mud. deep mud.

wouldn't be my most favorite place. my real favorite Is patricks pub. should have gone there but wanted to try the new place.

:rolleye1:

fodalo 07-11-2013 10:43 AM

Jumiors Crush House
 
Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.

Happy Gourmand 07-11-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fodalo (Post 207711)
Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.

That's a pretty ambitious statement. I don't think Junior or anybody else will crush Patrick's.

VitaBene 07-11-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fodalo (Post 207711)
Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.

Alrighty then... I don't think so!

I wish there were a Patrick's on the North side of the lake:liplick:

Phantom 07-11-2013 11:49 AM

Okay --

You all have me intrigued.
We love a new restaurant to try just like the rest of you --
BUT SOMEONE give a little more detail ...

Type of restaurant (Pub / Ice Cream stand / Sandwich shop / (in)formal dining, etc.) ???

Typical menu items are ?

Has anyone thought to snap an iPhone pic of the menu and post as there is no website?

We'll be heading up in 10 days and we already have --along with our standard list of must eat at restaurants, yes Lauren we're coming up -- added Akwa Marine as a must try... now perhaps Junior's Crush House ?




p.s. -- Patrick's will do just fine living off the Mountain View crowd as they always have in the past
.

codeman671 07-11-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fodalo (Post 207711)
Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.

I agree that the food at Patricks is just plain ok, but I think it would take a lot more than Juniors to "crush" Patricks.

fodalo 07-15-2013 12:53 PM

Juniors Crush House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 207716)
Alrighty then... I don't think so!

I wish there were a Patrick's on the North side of the lake:liplick:

Went to Juniors Sat nite, full house inside and out.
Good service
Our crowd had Steak capresse salad w/shrimp Haddock broiled and Fried seafood.
food was great! Will be going back soon.
MVYC crowd has found another hangout! Go Jr.!:)

chunt 07-15-2013 05:27 PM

We ate dinner there for the first timer. Thought it was pricey for the portions. Drinks could have been a little stronger. Need to improve on their mango sauce. Fish needed a little more seasoning. Little tweaks will help them be successful. Just trying to help. We will be back again.

Resident 2B 07-15-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 207722)
I agree that the food at Patricks is just plain ok, but I think it would take a lot more than Juniors to "crush" Patricks.

Patrick's has the best butternut squash in the world. Better than Ruth Chris in my opinion.

I realize squash is only a side, but it is worth the trip.

Glad to hear Junior's Crush House is doing well. I wish them the best.

R2B

FranklyH500 07-17-2013 02:11 PM

We ate at juniors Tuesday night and it was pretty good overall. The dinner menu was a bit more formal than the menu we looked at at our motel(silver sands) but they were very obliging about cooking the sandwich items we had gone there for. I had the "triple threat" which was pulled pork , smoked ham and crisp bacon on a ciabatta roll. Excellent. My wife had a burger which she liked very much. The food was hot and fresh and it all came to us in a timely manner.
The wait staff was friendly and helpful. I had one of their signature orange crush drinks and if I'm brutally honest , it was pretty lackluster. I found it watery and lacking in much fruit juice taste (or much vodka taste for that matter) and it wouldn't kill them to garnish the glass with an orange slice , either.
That quibble aside , it was nice to see the place open again after 12 years (!)
And I hope they do well. It's a great location and we love that deck.

dpg 07-18-2013 05:45 AM

I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????:rolleye2:

fpartri497 07-18-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fodalo (Post 207711)
Patricks Pub is a sandwich and apps pub at best, dinner leaves a lot to be desired.
I hope junior can get its act together on the food end they will Crush Patricks.

I tottaly disagree Patricks has very good meals not just sandwich & apps. we eat dinner there at least once a week. & never had a bad meal In all the years we have been going there

:D

fodalo 07-18-2013 09:16 AM

Juniors Crush House
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dpg (Post 208183)
I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????:rolleye2:

I suppose that if you were listing to many positive responses one would assume.
But its true, Juniors is doing a great job and I am a Patron thats all:liplick:

Bigstan 07-18-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpg (Post 208183)
I find it interesting that a good number raving about the Crush House has app. 2-8 posts on the forum.........Workers from there or maybe friends?????:rolleye2:

Do you see something I don't ? I see one post from a new user that is more critical than positive. The other 3 reviews are from members that have been members for 8+ years (regardless of # of posts), so I don't get it.......

On a different note - someone should post a menu as they don't list one on their facebook page. How a new business can decide they don't need to have a website with their info is completely beyond me.

NH_boater 07-18-2013 09:50 AM

I think my family is pretty easy to please and have never had a good meal at Patricks. Nothing impressive and nothing our daughter liked. Usually crowded, probably more proximity than quality. Crush could do well.

dpg 07-19-2013 06:21 AM

Do you see something I don't ? I see one post from a new user that is more critical than positive. The other 3 reviews are from members that have been members for 8+ years (regardless of # of posts), so I don't get it.......

BIGSTAN: Yes, I do see something you do not see. My comment was the number of posts not the years they've been members of the forum.

Fodalo = 15 posts
FranklyH500 = 2 posts
WaterBoyZGal = 5 posts

Not many posts for the number of years they've been around. That's all just noticed that.

fpartri497 07-19-2013 07:47 AM

patricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpartri497 (Post 208188)
I tottaly disagree Patricks has very good meals not just sandwich & apps. we eat dinner there at least once a week. & never had a bad meal In all the years we have been going there

:D

had dinner at Patricks last night again with another couple. wife had mac & cheese, I had prime rib. other couple had bonless ribs. & the other had steak tips all meals where serverd to us perfect. waitress was also perfect. It was extremely busy, we had to wait 1/2 hr. again Patricks was perfect

:D

upthesaukee 07-19-2013 03:18 PM

Who cares how many posts...
 
For me, it is the quality of the post, and not the quantity. Nice comments made by long time members of this Forum, who for whatever reasons have chosen not to post hundreds of times on the Forum. Not for me to judge why, just whether I understand their position on their post.

Thanks for posting.

Bigstan 07-19-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee (Post 208300)
For me, it is the quality of the post, and not the quantity. Nice comments made by long time members of this Forum, who for whatever reasons have chosen not to post hundreds of times on the Forum. Not for me to judge why, just whether I understand their position on their post.

Thanks for posting.

My point exactly :)

Pricestavern 07-19-2013 04:59 PM

My 2 Cents
 
I've been going to Patrick's off and on for 6 years. It's a pub so not everything is perfect. I do love their prime ribs, their soups and stews are great. Service for me has always been pretty good.

I had lunch at Crush on Thursday: Had to try a few things so I made a pig of myself: Chili Dog, French Fries, Hamburger, Onion Rings, and a Ruby Red Crush. My review: not bad. The Ruby Red was refreshing, the chili dog was very good. The burger was a bit overwhelmed by the massive (but tasty) bun. Onion Rings and Fries good but basic.

It was a late lunch, after 1pm and there were not too many people around. The bartender was nice. My order was taken promptly, but it took a little longer than I would have expected to bring the food. Not ridiculously long, though.

I liked Crush. I'm sure I'll go back. Is it better than Patrick's? Too early to tell for me. It's different and that's good. I'll probably bounce back and forth between them depending on my mood. I am glad Crush is there as an option.

FranklyH500 07-19-2013 05:50 PM

I certainly don't work for juniors. We stay at silver sands one week every summer. We live in newton , ma.
I thought the food was good , but I was a little disappointed in my drink , that's all.

RLW 07-20-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FranklyH500 (Post 208308)
I certainly don't work for juniors. We stay at silver sands one week every summer. We live in newton , ma.
I thought the food was good , but I was a little disappointed in my drink , that's all.

http://i44.tinypic.com/1499wms.gif FranklyH500, I just noticed that you are fairly new to posting on the forum and glad you have joined us. Have fun and enjoy the Winni Forum while making many new friends.:)

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Webbsatwinni 07-21-2013 05:49 PM

Attempted to go.
 
We were out with the kids and not by boat so we figured we would try it. We got there at 5:30 and wanted something light and the sandwich menu looked good. When we were about to be seated we asked how the shrimp poboy was, we were told that the samdwiches are not offered after 5:00 unless seated in the bar area. We said ok, we would like to sit in there, the answer was that the high tops in the bar but that the were only two so if we had four, the sandwiches were not an option.

Not wanting a full meal, we left. Maybe we will go again but we tried weathervane at weirs and we got the seafood fix we wanted and a $5 margarita, ill go back there.

SIKSUKR 07-22-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Webbsatwinni (Post 208400)
When we were about to be seated we asked how the shrimp poboy was, we were told that the samdwiches are not offered after 5:00 unless seated in the bar area. We said ok, we would like to sit in there, the answer was that the high tops in the bar but that the were only two so if we had four, the sandwiches were not an option.

This is something I don't understand.I can see if they don't want to serve those sandwiches in the dining room but if there is no room in the bar I can't understand why you wouldn't make an exception and instead let customers go elsewhere instead.

Lyver 07-23-2013 01:11 PM

LOVE Juniors Crush House!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy (Post 206924)
They have a number of signature fresh squeezed fruit cocktails served over crushed ice....


Woodsy

The drinks are fantastic! They have several fresh squeezed fruit cocktails, and when I say fresh, I mean they aren't pouring the fruit from a container, Danielle (our bartender) took the time to squeeze the juice from the orange into my Tropical Crush Drink that I ordered. My husband ordered a Bloody Mary after he saw that they had jalapeno flavored vodka! Don't know any place in the Lakes Region that you can get THAT! He usually won't order it unless the restaurant stocks Peppered Vodka (usually only the fine and upscale restaurants stock that), but that was a great drink! We watched Danielle take the time to make each drink order that came in, and each was consistent and of good quality. We stopped by for lunch and had a great Cuban sandwich and my husband ordered a sausage sub. Both were excellent and the prices are WAY more reasonable than Woodland's Tavern in Alton.

Will definitely be back (our friends recommended this and we will continue to bring them as well) throughout the winter, since we are locals. So glad something finally opened in that location, renovations looks great and very clean and inviting. Go check it out, highly recommend!

localgirl 07-24-2013 04:36 PM

Love Juniors
 
Let me start by tell any of you who might care that I am a legit customer of Juniors and I am not an employee and I don't know anyone that works there or the owners. I specifically joined the forum today just so I could post a comment about Juniors. So you'll see I've got no posts or comments in my column, but I am indeed a real person and not asked to post here.

We went to Juniors around the time they opened, July 2nd or so, and had a fantastic dining experience. We were seated promptly and the waitress (sorry can't remember her name) came & took our drink order. We found the food to be excellent, on a scale of 1:10 I'd give it a 9, maybe 9.5. Service about an 8. The only reason I'd give it an 8 is because part of my order didn't come until the end of my meal. I ordered a salad with a side of buffalo chicken and the chicken didn't come until my dining partners had finished their meals. The waitress came several times to apologize telling us that my buffalo chicken part of the order had gotten misplaced in the kitchen, which clearly wasn't her fault. Towards the end of the meal a woman came around asking if everything was ok and did we enjoy our meal and we told her about the chicken and she immediately told us that she's make sure to remove it from our tab. I found the prices to be well well well within what we expected to pay for the quality of the food.

I do agree with some of the other comments about Patrick's. They are hit or miss in our book. Some nights pretty decent, other nights not so much. I personally think they are way over rated for the price & atmosphere. It's always way too loud, the music they think they need to offer is very irritating when trying to carry on any kind of conversation. And I also think, personally, that their prices are way over priced, especially for what you get, i.e., the atmosphere (or lack thereof), and the service is sooooooooo slow it's pathetic. We've stopped there several times in the past thinking we'd grab a quick burger or club sandwich at the bar only to be in there over an hour, so we don't go there anymore if we're pressed for time.

This isn't meant to be a bash Patrick's comment really, just trying to compare Juniors to Patricks and hoping upon hope that Juniors does great and actually DOES give Patrick's a run for their money....I've made that comment many times while driving by the empty Cherrystone, "wish someone would open this again and give Patrick's some competition and a run for their money".

I think it's funny how the comments here are so diverse & all over the place, comparing Junior's to Patrick's and vice versa. In the end it's all about the experience each one of us has/had on a particular night. Our meal was great, (minus the missing buffalo chicken until the end) and the prices were very reasonable. We most definitely will return most likely again & again!!!

Liquorish 08-05-2013 06:22 AM

Went to Juniors for a late lunch on Sunday, around 3:00.. We were seated quickly and offered drinks right away. Soup( chicken tortilla ) and sandwich special $8, all 5 of us had the special, could choose from grilled chicken, fried chicken, chicken parm, pulled pork, and meatloaf. All turned out terrific, will definitely repeat!

searay220 08-05-2013 04:31 PM

Two of us dropped in at Juniors for a late lunch Sunday afternoon around 2ish. We had a couple drinks,bbq chicken wings for an app and a couple of sandwiches. Nice place and good service and all the employees were friendly. Will return their again. I wish them luck.

Misha888 08-11-2013 10:35 PM

Menu from their FB page
 
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I haven't been yet. It's always nice to have options. I love Lyon's den, Patrick's is okay. They're both always consistent.

You need to be accepted as a friend on Facebook which I think is odd being that it's a public place. But it's a free country as to how one wants to or not want to market themselves.

Looking forward to checking it out this coming up weekend. I will report back.

NH_boater 08-13-2013 09:27 PM

Family ate here last weekend, for first time. A little crowded but no real wait. The host told us that they had table available, great view of marina but it was next to a party of 16 and could be a bit loud. We said fine, we'll take it.

It was a bit loud, but not bad. Great service by the host for first warning us, and then offering to move us just after we sat down. We stayed where we were and enjoyed ourselves.

The meal was very good. I had seafood Alfredo. Wife had stuffed haddock. Daughter had a steak salad and chili. I admit to having some of my daughter's steak and I would gladly get her salad for my entree. All were great. The service was top notch and friendly and the prices were reasonable. We'll be back for sure.

Lakemamma 08-15-2013 07:35 PM

What a great article in the Weirs Times today about Junior's and how they started. It's nice to know that his wife was a crucial factor while running her own business in Laconia.

I haven't been to the restaurant yet but we will have to give it a try when over that way.

Misha888 08-20-2013 09:05 AM

My mini review of Juniors Crush House 8/19/2013
 
There were 4 of us who went for appetizers on Sunday at 5 p.m. A few of us had the Orange Crush. Very refreshing. We ordered the following:

Chicken fingers (plain): lightly breaded and fried to perfection. they were cooked just right and the breading has a nice taste against the honey mustard sauce. The hot sauce, was really hot so If you like hot you're in luck.

Mozz sticks: They're you're plain ole Jane sticks. Good none the less, though the marina sauce was lacking a little spice.

Potato ribbons w/ cheese and bacon: nice size basket, plenty for 4 people. Unique and I will definitely get these again!

Crab cakes: Okay, so it was one crab cake. I didn't like the fact that it was one cake but it is what is is. They were good, a little too flat and stringy for my taste. It could have been cooked a bit longer. In my opinion, and I make a mean crab cake, this cake could have been split into two (add a little more meat) and don't make them so flat. It was a complete disappointment.

The service was okay. There were few diners there, but it appeared that our waitress was a little distracted. After sitting there with our apps for a few minutes, we needed to ask for napkins and utensils. In the waitresses own admission, we were here only table. Her lack of attentiveness still puzzles me . . . I guess it's because people like us still give a full 20% tip even if the service is so, so. We are local business owners ourselves and I know that there isn't a lot of money to be made up here so I consider it giving back to the community.

The view was good. It doesn't compare to lakeside living but then again, who am I going to get to serve me drinks and apps at the house. It's always nice to get out on a deck with a slight breeze and just enjoy the sun with family. I'm looking forward to dinner or lunch there someday soon.

As you can see, I am not a professional critic but I hope it gives some insight.

p.s. In my humble opinion, they need to clean up the back of the restaurant a little bit more to make it more like a restaurant and less like an unfinished back yard.

Misha888 08-20-2013 09:10 AM

Menu
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 207717)
Okay --

You all have me intrigued.
We love a new restaurant to try just like the rest of you --
BUT SOMEONE give a little more detail ...

Type of restaurant (Pub / Ice Cream stand / Sandwich shop / (in)formal dining, etc.) ???

Typical menu items are ?

Has anyone thought to snap an iPhone pic of the menu and post as there is no website?

We'll be heading up in 10 days and we already have --along with our standard list of must eat at restaurants, yes Lauren we're coming up -- added Akwa Marine as a must try... now perhaps Junior's Crush House ?




p.s. -- Patrick's will do just fine living off the Mountain View crowd as they always have in the past
.

I hope you can see the menu I posted on here. I took it from their FB page

sluggo 08-20-2013 10:04 AM

Wife and I went to dinner Saturday night at Juniors. We both felt that the service was fair since we had to get our own drinks as we waited for deck seating and from there they forgot about us until we decided to just go and sit down at a table. We had the sea food platter and shrimp dinner and we both loved the food but again the service sucked. Hope they get there stuff together since we thought it was a great place to go for dinner and a drink.

BroadHopper 08-20-2013 10:52 AM

Stop for lunch Sunday
 
There only about 3 cars in the parking lot. I ask the waitress that I need a quick bite to eat, she says she will take my order immediately. I ordered chili as you would think it would be quick.
I was sitting on the front deck and I swear they have forgotten me. I went inside to get the waitress and she said she will check on the order. She delivered the order and it is cold! I was in a hurry so I had the change, paid the order and left. It's been almost an hour since I pulled in.

Winni Luvr 08-21-2013 10:54 AM

Looking forward to trying it out!
 
My yearly trek to the Lake begins this Saturday :D and I am looking forward to trying Junior's out. Been hoping a new restaurant would open at this location since the Cherrystone closed. :)

Winni Luvr 09-01-2013 08:01 AM

Said I would try it
 
We ate at Junior's last Monday and the food wasn't bad. Only one waitress was working so we were very skeptical of how the service would be, but since most of the patrons were at the bar and only 2 other tables were occupied she did a pretty good job. The 4 of us had no complaints about our food. I had the Sirloin, my husband had the Steak Pizziola, one daughter had the Chicken Alfredo and the other had the Haddock.

However, while we all enjoyed the food we were not very happy with what happened when my 21 year old daughter ordered a drink. Keep in mind when I tell this story that we were there as a family. I am 50, my husband is 64 and my other daughter is 24. I was the only one who ordered a drink when we arrived, a glass of wine...my husband who does not drink had a coffee and my other daughter had soda. We were obviously there as a family and not to party or allow our daughters to pass off fake ID. Anyway, as dinner did take a little while to arrive, my youngest daughter decided to try one of their "crush" drinks. She pulled out her NJ Photo license for ID and when she ordered her drink and was asked for it happily handed it to the waitress. The waitress then looked at it and when it should have then been handed back to my daughter said she would have to show it to the bartender and walked off with it. After a couple minutes she then came back and said that my daughter would have to go up to the bartender. By this time, our food had arrived at the table, but my daughter went up to the bar. As she stood there waiting, the bartender had his back to her for a couple of minutes showing my daughter's ID to one of the people at the Bar! When I saw this I went up there and told the waitress to have the bartender acknowledge that my daughter was up there as her food was getting cold and what he was doing was wrong. He finally walked over and then asked her what her middle name was and her date of birth. By now I'm pissed and my food is getting cold. I told him we were there as a family and he completely ignored me so we went back to the table.

Long story short, we will not go back there even though the food wasn't bad.
My daughter gave the waitress a legal, photo ID from the State of NJ and was eating with her family, not a table full of questionably aged youth. While I expect any establishment to ask for ID, a waitress or bartender should be able to use discretion. My daughter was embarassed and I was angry. Not one other restaurant went further than asking for ID from either of my daughters during our vacation and we will be going back to them next year.

RailroadJoe 09-01-2013 08:37 AM

Most waitress' and bartenders are very cautious about serving liquor to anyone under the age of 35. Too many times it comes back to they are the ones responsible if the person drinking gets into trouble. Just common sense being ignored and people not responsible for their own acts.

chipj29 09-01-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe (Post 211371)
Most waitress' and bartenders are very cautious about serving liquor to anyone under the age of 35. Too many times it comes back to they are the ones responsible if the person drinking gets into trouble. Just common sense being ignored and people not responsible for their own acts.

True, but the bartender or server has no business showing the ID to patrons at the bar. It is possible that one of the ppl at the bar was a manager or owner, but we have no way of knowing that.

RailroadJoe 09-02-2013 05:22 AM

Chip129 True, I never thought of that. And you are right, he should not show the ID to anyone else, except the manager.

pats fan 09-02-2013 08:02 AM

I agree that he shouldn't have shown the ID to anyone at the bar, but we don't know who that person was. Could have been the owner, another employee who was off shift and they were looking to confirm the validity of the ID. I realize if the daughter is actually of age and the ID is legit it would be frustrating to be refused but I commend the server and bartender for doing their job. Too many ID's look good but are actually fakes. Clearly the bartender doesn't like to refuse to sell alcohol so must have had a true concern about how valid it was. Doesn't matter if she wasn't partying and was with her parents. He serves someone under age, he loses his job, the restaurant loses their license and someone could get hurt or killed leaving him responsible. I haven't been to Juniors yet but support them in their decision to serve alcohol in a responsible manner.

Seaplane Pilot 09-02-2013 12:08 PM

It could have been a state liquor inspector "undercover".

Winni Luvr 09-02-2013 12:57 PM

Junior's Crush House
 
While I realize that restaurants/bars have to be cautious, again, discretion can be used when going any further than actually asking for ID. If the bartender was so concerned that the ID was not real, then he should have come over to the table (we were not far from the bar), not have my daughter get up from our table when our food had already been served. Then when she gets to the bar, he is on the other side showing the ID to whoever it was, and left her standing there for a good 2 minutes until I asked the waitress to please have him acknowledge that she was standing there and I went up to be with her.

I'm sorry, the whole thing was handled wrong and I was insulted. I guess there are families who would let there daughter use a fake ID to get drinks when the family goes out for dinner (?? maybe), but I sure don't know of any and I certainly never did!!! And I was the only other person at the table having a drink, my husband and my oldest daughter weren't, so we didn't look like the "Party" family.

Anyway..... I'm letting it go and reflecting on the wonderful vacation I just came home from and looking forward to going back to the Lake next year as I have for the last 45 years or so.

Winni Luvr 09-02-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pats fan (Post 211429)
I agree that he shouldn't have shown the ID to anyone at the bar, but we don't know who that person was. Could have been the owner, another employee who was off shift and they were looking to confirm the validity of the ID. I realize if the daughter is actually of age and the ID is legit it would be frustrating to be refused but I commend the server and bartender for doing their job. Too many ID's look good but are actually fakes. Clearly the bartender doesn't like to refuse to sell alcohol so must have had a true concern about how valid it was. Doesn't matter if she wasn't partying and was with her parents. He serves someone under age, he loses his job, the restaurant loses their license and someone could get hurt or killed leaving him responsible. I haven't been to Juniors yet but support them in their decision to serve alcohol in a responsible manner.

Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.

chachee52 09-02-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Winni Luvr (Post 211455)
Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.

A couple things on this post. First, I totally agree that they should never have been showing it to other patrons. That is in my field (medical) highly illegal.
The bartender should have come over to the table instead of the other way around.
As for the "she is 21 and it was not a fake". There are places, at least in MA, where they will not serve an out of state person unless they are 24 or 25 (I forget the actual age). The sporting arenas are part of this and I've seen it a couple of bars in the Boston area.
As for the you were with family, I know a bunch of parents that would get their kids drinks before they were of age.
Like I said at the beginning, I agree it was totally handled the wrong way though.

BroadHopper 09-02-2013 07:14 PM

Responsible serving of alcohol certificate
 
Unfortunately only owners and managers are to take the course and be certified. Bartenders are only required to be 21.
The theory is that the owners/managers are required to train the bartenders and wait staff responsible serving but this is not enforced. The seasonal changeover of staff makes it harder to train.
In other states, owners, managers, bartenders are certified before serving alcohol. In some states bartenders are required to 'pour' liquor correctly before getting their certificates.
So there can be confusion as to 'how to read a valid id', in this state. I notice in some restaurants the waitstaff will call the owner or manager to a table to make sure id is proper. This is the first time I heard of a watstaff bringing the id to the bar. Sounds like id theft to me.
Believe or not in NH, one can be 80 years old, and without a valid id cannot be served alcohol. This has not really been enforced, yet I have seen liquor inspectors and 'anal' LEOs uses this as a ground to evict someone they may not like.

rrr 09-03-2013 07:42 AM

responsibility
 
I agree with everyone that the bartender has to be responsible for who he serves. But - don't we all have the right to know who is looking at our IDs? Yes - it could have been the owner or an inspector... or it could have been a friend of the bartender's or another customer from New Jersey. I wouldn't want my personal information including my address passed around.

Woodsy 09-03-2013 08:20 AM

I think you guys need a little more info....

In NH.... the buck stops with the bartender. The end. If the bartender serves a drink to an underage person (regardless of fake id or not) the bartender WILL be arrested. Not the owner, not the waitress, not the bouncer at the door.... just the bartender. The owner/business will be subject to fines and/or loss of liquor license. The Liquor enforcement in the Weirs Beach area is Draconian! The Liquor Inspector for the area (his name is Kurt) is around constantly and they run stings all the time.

The NH Liquor Commission offers TEAM (Total Education in Alcohol Management) classes for businesses and their employees. Most of the businesses I know REQUIRE their alcohol servers to take this class. It addresses ID's & how to spot a fake, the security features required in an ID, over-serving etc... When you take this class, you are taught to be extremely careful with out of state ID's. Those are the ones that are mostly faked.

In the TEAM class you are taught not to look at the situation that ID is presented. For example, if you look at WinniLuvrs story, just because your daughter although legal, (barely at 24 and likely looks younger) was having dinner with her family presented a valid out of state ID... it is still up to the bartender to do due diligence. Its their *ss on the line. They don't know who your daughter is, and they are taught to be wary of out of state ID's. perhaps they looked up NJ ID's online to verify the security features...

Bottom line is, if you are younger and you want to consume alcohol, you can bet that your ID WILL BE SCRUTINIZED.... Its not ID theft, its not harmful to you in any way.

Woodsy

dpg 09-05-2013 06:13 AM

Winni Luvr - You mentioned (more than once) your daughter was there with her family and not a bunch of kids but that doesn't matter one bit. I do agree what they did seems wrong but they need to be careful and do the right thing. Doesn't matter if your daughter was there with her grandparents or a huge group of kids, the drinking age is what it is. I know what you mean by saying that I really do, but....................

Winnisquamguy 09-05-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winni Luvr (Post 211455)
Just to be clear, they gave my daughter her drink after it all, she wasn't refused. Her ID was a valid NJ Photo license.

I was sitting at the table next to you and saw you both go to the bar I thought you were more upset that the food was already on the table and you had to get up to have the ID checked? I know your daughter said she was 24 but she did look younger and I would have carded her as well, then with an out of state license a manager or owner should have come to your table not you having to go to the bar.The bar had 4 people at that time 2 were regulars. The father was around he was outside smoking when we came in.They have a few things to learn in the restaurant business if the want to stay in business IMHO.

localgirl 09-19-2013 08:31 AM

2nd time not so good
 
So here's my take on Junior's Crush House the 2nd time around. Thursday night out, not too crowded in the dining area, although the bar was packed, sanding room only. Guess we have a lot of drinkers in town!! (joike)!! Service was so-so, they had a few specials which I think were priced pretty high but my complaint was the lack of any communication with the waitstaff or even the owner/manager??? No one came to our table at all throughout the meal to make sure we were satisfied, did we need anything, was everything cooked ok, etc. The owner (or at least I think it was, it was a guy who looked like he was someone other than a hired host) seated us, and never came back, never said enjoy, never made any conversation whatsoever. The waitress was ok, didn't really do much for the experience as well and she looked to be an older, seasoned waitress so not sure if she was just in a bad mood. The clincher was when she left the tab, still didn't ask us if everything was ok, didn't ask us about dessert, nothing. Then when we left the "guy" who I think was the owner was standing down in the entrance and never said "have a good night" "did you enjoy your meal"....nothing. So not sure we'll be returning there. Like I said, food was just so-so...I got a steak that I couldn't really chew, it was on the tough side and it was one of their specials. One other person got steak tips, he said they were delicious and
last diner got some sort of seafood Alfredo which he said was just ok. So scratch it from our list, maybe we'll try again come winter but for now it's a no go.

Misha888 09-23-2013 09:34 AM

You nailed it . . .
 
You nailed it. I couldn't figure out what about my experience was uncomfortable. The place lacked actual personality. I don't need to be schmoozed, but common courtesy is needed. We are paying a premium for a service.

Thank you for helping me realize this. (✿ˆ◡ˆ✿)

And, I only write these to help the owner. I hope he reads these and improves upon what could be a fabulous restaurant.

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Originally Posted by localgirl (Post 212526)
So here's my take on Junior's Crush House the 2nd time around. Thursday night out, not too crowded in the dining area, although the bar was packed, sanding room only. Guess we have a lot of drinkers in town!! (joike)!! Service was so-so, they had a few specials which I think were priced pretty high but my complaint was the lack of any communication with the waitstaff or even the owner/manager??? No one came to our table at all throughout the meal to make sure we were satisfied, did we need anything, was everything cooked ok, etc. The owner (or at least I think it was, it was a guy who looked like he was someone other than a hired host) seated us, and never came back, never said enjoy, never made any conversation whatsoever. The waitress was ok, didn't really do much for the experience as well and she looked to be an older, seasoned waitress so not sure if she was just in a bad mood. The clincher was when she left the tab, still didn't ask us if everything was ok, didn't ask us about dessert, nothing. Then when we left the "guy" who I think was the owner was standing down in the entrance and never said "have a good night" "did you enjoy your meal"....nothing. So not sure we'll be returning there. Like I said, food was just so-so...I got a steak that I couldn't really chew, it was on the tough side and it was one of their specials. One other person got steak tips, he said they were delicious and
last diner got some sort of seafood Alfredo which he said was just ok. So scratch it from our list, maybe we'll try again come winter but for now it's a no go.


Lyver 11-03-2013 08:48 PM

Another great lunch at Jr. Crush House!
 
Went in for lunch on 11/2 around 1pm with a friend and sat at the bar. Drinks are still tasty and served fresh! Sandwiches were served hot and tasted good (although for only having 2 other people in the entire place, they did take a bit longer than I expected, but not a complaint). I had the Cuban, friend had the Ruban, both were great. For dessert we had the tiramisu and cheesecake, both were also great. Service was fast and prompt. Second time in. Still haven't tried them for dinner, but I like them very much for lunch!

New laker 07-01-2014 12:18 PM

First and only trip to juniors crush house
 
My husband and I ate at this place Saturday night. Waitress was nice-menu was changing over to barbecue. I ordered just a salad-$10 for ripped iceberg, three tomato wedges, three slices of cuke, and about 6 slices of red onion on top. Got a side of chicken for $5-pre-packaged, grisly chicken that was "grilled", which made it dry and rubbery. My husband ordered steak tips-was not asked how he would like them cooked. They were okay, but tasted like vinegar. Our drinks were good, but unfortunately, the food was not good enough for us to make a return visit. I wish them luck in their barbecue adventure.

jmen24 07-01-2014 01:45 PM

Quick Question!
 
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Originally Posted by Lyver (Post 214340)
....Drinks are still tasty and served fresh!....

This line got my interest up as I have never heard it before!

Other than a flat soda mixer (which very well could be a problem with the post-mix carbonator and not have anything to do with the freshness of the post-mix syrup); what causes a drink to not be fresh?

Seaplane Pilot 07-01-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jmen24 (Post 227906)
This line got my interest up as I have never heard it before!

Other than a flat soda mixer (which very well could be a problem with the post-mix carbonator and not have anything to do with the freshness of the post-mix syrup); what causes a drink to not be fresh?

I have never been to Junior's, but they do advertise "fresh" drinks on their website: http://juniorscrushhouse.com/about-juniors/

Perhaps this ties into the "Crush" concept? They fresh-squeeze the juices or something like that?

It's hot out and I'm thirsty. :cheers:

Phantom 07-01-2014 02:20 PM

Well --

Let's start with did anyone notice that this was "New laker's" first post ! (just saying)

As it turns out, my wife & I decided to try Juniors out this past Sunday for lunch. Having never been there, yet read the reviews I must admit they have a VERY unique concept going for them.

Sofa & chair (al la Starbuck's) on the ground floor (didn't notice if there was a fireplace- which would be nice in the Fall/Winter), normal table area upstairs with a huge - well appointed bar off the dining area (two wide screen TV's), Outside tables for 4 on the porch facing MountainView Y.C. and a cool gaming area fenced in at the back of the restaurant with Adirondacks & tables.

As for the staff, they were quite engaging and attentive
As for the food, it was only lunch - but the Steak & Cheese that I had was FABULOUS with clearly fresh ground beef (not minute steak) and my wife's burger was the similarly good. But again -- a simple lunch - nothing to write a restaurant review over. Overall the menu looked quite varied and can't wait to pop in for dinner.

As we are soon to be moving to that area .... I am glad we stopped ... as now we have found a new home/haunt ..... hopefully not as packed as Patrick's seems to get

(that is NOT a knock on Patrick's -- rather a compliment -- but still typically a wait to be seated)


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birchhaven 07-01-2014 06:04 PM

Phantom,
I did notice the first post and I have been observing for years a lot of shannigans on the restaurant forum. New laker may be genuine. I did notice there is fairly new negative restaurant poster in our mist who slipped up earlier today and revealed what restaurant they actually work at /own/have interest in. Anyone else notice this?
I for one have always had a good experience at the crush house.
BHaven

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 227908)
Well --

Let's start with did anyone notice that this was "New laker's" first post ! (just saying)

As it turns out, my wife & I decided to try Juniors out this past Sunday for lunch. Having never been there, yet read the reviews I must admit they have a VERY unique concept going for them.

Sofa & chair (al la Starbuck's) on the ground floor (didn't notice if there was a fireplace- which would be nice in the Fall/Winter), normal table area upstairs with a huge - well appointed bar off the dining area (two wide screen TV's), Outside tables for 4 on the porch facing MountainView Y.C. and a cool gaming area fenced in at the back of the restaurant with Adirondacks & tables.

As for the staff, they were quite engaging and attentive
As for the food, it was only lunch - but the Steak & Cheese that I had was FABULOUS with clearly fresh ground beef (not minute steak) and my wife's burger was the similarly good. But again -- a simple lunch - nothing to write a restaurant review over. Overall the menu looked quite varied and can't wait to pop in for dinner.

As we are soon to be moving to that area .... I am glad we stopped ... as now we have found a new home/haunt ..... hopefully not as packed as Patrick's seems to get

(that is NOT a knock on Patrick's -- rather a compliment -- but still typically a wait to be seated)


.


Tackleman 07-01-2014 06:21 PM

New Laker
 
New laker is my wife and has been watching me enjoy the forum for years. I told her to be careful what you post or people will jump all over you. She was very kind in her post. When we arrived at 5:30 and we were almost the only one there that sent up the first flag. It is a forum where people are expressing their opinion which we all have one.

VitaBene 07-01-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tackleman (Post 227924)
New laker is my wife and has been watching me enjoy the forum for years. I told her to be careful what you post or people will jump all over you. She was very kind in her post. When we arrived at 5:30 and we were almost the only one there that sent up the first flag. It is a forum where people are expressing their opinion which we all have one.

Everyone has to have a first post! welcome Mrs Tackle!

jmen24 07-01-2014 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birchhaven (Post 227922)
Phantom,
I did notice the first post and I have been observing for years a lot of shannigans on the restaurant forum. New laker may be genuine. I did notice there is fairly new negative restaurant poster in our mist who slipped up earlier today and revealed what restaurant they actually work at /own/have interest in. Anyone else notice this?
I for one have always had a good experience at the crush house.
BHaven

Me, me, me, raises hand as high as I can with other arm holding it up!!! It's a type of bee, do I win a prize?

jeffatsquam 07-01-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmen24 (Post 227931)
Me, me, me, raises hand as high as I can with other arm holding it up!!! It's a type of bee, do I win a prize?

Ya lunch at the LP with a foulmouthed waitress,A belligerent manger and a sous chief that will run out and scream at you when you have a ligament ? on how little care was taken in preparing your meal

Bumble2249 07-02-2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot (Post 227907)
I have never been to Junior's, but they do advertise "fresh" drinks on their website: http://juniorscrushhouse.com/about-juniors/



Perhaps this ties into the "Crush" concept? They fresh-squeeze the juices or something like that?



It's hot out and I'm thirsty. :cheers:


That's exactly what they do! They make drinks with FRESH squeezed juices. Not something out of bag in a box or carton. Sounds pretty clear to me.


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znh 07-02-2014 11:24 AM

This is nothing specific about Junior's or Patricks or any particular place. But it seems so many of us are now 'ok' with paying for mediocre food...irks me for some reason. Also bothers me because good tasting fresh food is pretty easy to make and it seems most restaurants care more about turning tables then making a quality product.../rant

belly_button_biter 07-04-2014 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birchhaven (Post 227922)
Phantom,
I did notice the first post and I have been observing for years a lot of shannigans on the restaurant forum. New laker may be genuine. I did notice there is fairly new negative restaurant poster in our mist who slipped up earlier today and revealed what restaurant they actually work at /own/have interest in. Anyone else notice this?
I for one have always had a good experience at the crush house.
BHaven

I think that was a diversion. look deeper and look at the posts from the past

Misha888 07-13-2014 05:20 PM

It CAN be a tough crowd.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tackleman (Post 227924)
New laker is my wife and has been watching me enjoy the forum for years. I told her to be careful what you post or people will jump all over you. She was very kind in her post. When we arrived at 5:30 and we were almost the only one there that sent up the first flag. It is a forum where people are expressing their opinion which we all have one.

Hoping it doesn't shy her away from participating. The facts are the facts and some think it's contrived . . . but sometimes service and food just stink. It doesn't mean that it's that way always it just means the food wasn't that good.

I've been wanting to go back since my birthday last Aug., as it's right around the corner and we live here year round so variety is nice. It didn't blow me away, so I haven't been back. Maybe again this coming up birthday? If so, I'll be sure to report in.

loneskier 07-18-2014 06:28 PM

Went to Juniors tonight for first time. Prices are high and no children menu. Won't be going back.



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Bumble2249 07-18-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loneskier (Post 229184)
Went to Juniors tonight for first time. Prices are high and no children menu. Won't be going back.



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Lone skier....seriously? I def understand the gripe regarding the kids menu but prices are too high?? As compared to what?? What other BBQ restaurants are you comparing them too?


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RLW 07-18-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New laker (Post 227894)
My husband and I ate at this place Saturday night. Waitress was nice-menu was changing over to barbecue. I ordered just a salad-$10 for ripped iceberg, three tomato wedges, three slices of cuke, and about 6 slices of red onion on top. Got a side of chicken for $5-pre-packaged, grisly chicken that was "grilled", which made it dry and rubbery. My husband ordered steak tips-was not asked how he would like them cooked. They were okay, but tasted like vinegar. Our drinks were good, but unfortunately, the food was not good enough for us to make a return visit. I wish them luck in their barbecue adventure.

http://i44.tinypic.com/1499wms.gif New laker , I just noticed that you are fairly new to posting on the forum and glad you have joined us. Have fun and enjoy the Winni Forum while making many new friends.

Thanks for joining us and inserting your thoughts about this dinning spot. All thoughts are taken in and individuals make up there own decisions if they want to partake at this facility. :)

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Phantom 12-21-2015 08:05 AM

Another One Fails
 
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Such a Shame ........... Looks like another local establishment didn't make it

(apologies for the horrible pic)

radiocontester 12-21-2015 10:15 AM

Geez, I wonder why...?
 
Based on the comments within this legacy thread and the 2 out of 5 star Yelp rating it's of no surprise.

Lackluster food + high prices + mediocre service = out of biz

baygo 12-21-2015 12:16 PM

Hmmmmm... Just thinking

Barney Bear 12-21-2015 12:28 PM

Opportunity Knocks
 
Go for it, BayGo!!! 🍴

dpg 12-22-2015 11:26 AM

The last few (recent) posts confuse me...Apparently soared over my head as usual. :D

VitaBene 12-22-2015 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg (Post 254956)
The last few (recent) posts confuse me...Apparently soared over my head as usual. :D

I understood through Barney Bear's thread (Baygo owns Tavern 27 and has thoughts of expansion perhaps).

Not sure on outdoorsman's- the place is for lease, Phantom passed on the news. The problem with written words is that they lack inflection.

baygo 02-01-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 254958)
(Baygo owns Tavern 27 and has thoughts of expansion perhaps).
.

This was correct however I have commited to another plan. All goes well and it'll be open by May.

Major 02-01-2016 05:17 PM

Baygo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baygo (Post 256571)
This was correct however I have commited to another plan. All goes well and it'll be open by May.

Well, you need to share now. What's the plan?

garysanfran 02-02-2016 01:26 PM

The creative forces behind Tavern 27...
 
Have already done a lot to expand the culinary credentials of The Lakes Region.

I anxiously await their plans for May 2016!

jimkberry 02-02-2016 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baygo (Post 256571)
This was correct however I have commited to another plan. All goes well and it'll be open by May.

Wouldn't happen to be in Meredith, would it?

-jim

baygo 02-06-2016 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major (Post 256589)
Well, you need to share now. What's the plan?

Yes major, I should share the plan but, not quite yet. I believe there is a competitive edge to part of it. If you need something to go with; trust I'll be taking the burger and prime rib war to a new level

baygo 02-27-2016 11:45 AM

My plan may have encountered a little derailment. Sorry for any hopes I may have inflated. If anybody knows an available breakfast chef please send them my way and I'll be able to get back on track.

Pontoon Goon 02-29-2016 06:41 AM

A little scattered
 
Alright baygo I guess I will bite. In the last two posts here you promise to take the burger and prime rib war to a whole new level then write you are derailed because you can't find a breakfast chef. Sooo...what up ?

baygo 02-29-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pontoon Goon (Post 257693)
Alright baygo I guess I will bite. In the last two posts here you promise to take the burger and prime rib war to a whole new level then write you are derailed because you can't find a breakfast chef. Sooo...what up ?

The plan centers around a breakfast and lunch place to feature the ultimate $5 burger and a prime rib sandwich.

WakeboardMom 02-29-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by baygo (Post 257729)
The plan centers around a breakfast and lunch place to feature the ultimate $5 burger and a prime rib sandwich.

Is this on the corner in downtown Meredith near Bootleggers?

baygo 02-29-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WakeboardMom (Post 257733)
Is this on the corner in downtown Meredith near Bootleggers?

No that is not the location. I heard rumor that was associated with The Common Man.

WakeboardMom 03-01-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baygo (Post 257741)
No that is not the location. I heard rumor that was associated with The Common Man.

I was hoping for a pub with good food. I like the Common Man restaurants, but was hoping for something slightly less expensive and with a big bar area.

brk-lnt 03-01-2016 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baygo (Post 257642)
My plan may have encountered a little derailment. Sorry for any hopes I may have inflated. If anybody knows an available breakfast chef please send them my way and I'll be able to get back on track.

I can cook a pretty good omelette...

baygo 03-01-2016 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 257819)
I can cook a pretty good omelette...

I'll bet you can, but I'd make a bigger bet that you enjoy being served one more:)

Winnigirl83 03-01-2016 01:32 PM

The place on the corner in Meredith is going to be called The Lakeview Tavern (at least that's what the sign on the building says). From what I understand it has nothing to do with the Common Man.

upthesaukee 03-01-2016 03:51 PM

Me too....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baygo (Post 257825)
I'll bet you can, but I'd make a bigger bet that you enjoy being served one more:)

I can cook omelets as well, and always thought I would love to work in a restaurant kitchen. That is, until I started cooking omelets at our monthly breakfast buffet, and then found out the two hour prep, and flipping pan cooked omelets for about 3 and a half hours, once a month, was just about enough.

My hat (chef or ball cap ;) ) is off to all those who slave in a kitchen, whether it is breakfast, lunch or dinner.

Back to Baygo and the thread.

phoenix 03-01-2016 06:24 PM

is the place in Meredith going to be a sports bar


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