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LakeTimes 05-31-2017 10:56 AM

Towing a boat with beam over 8' 6"
 
Serious contemplating getting a boat that has a beam of 9' (28 ft bow rider). From what I understand the law only allows you to tow a boat with a beam of 8' 6" without a permit (no matter the size of the towing vehicle).

Do people do this often and have you had any issues towing without a permit?

I will only probably put it in Newfound, Winnisquam, Squam and Sunapee outside of Winnipesaukee maybe a combined total of 5 times a year...

Other general boating forums online seem to give a consensus that they will only really hunt you down if you're over 11 ft or so, but wasn't sure people's experience on here.

My concern with the permit is that you then have certain hours you can and can't tow - for example can't' tow on holidays, tow at night etc. (again, read this in forums, but not sure how accurate it is). Secondly, any idea to the cost f a permit (believe it's annual).

Any and all thoughts welcomed. Thanks!

Ms Molly McKever 05-31-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jc19 (Post 279350)
serious contemplating getting a boat that has a beam of 9' (28 ft bow rider). From what i understand the law only allows you to tow a boat with a beam of 8' 6" without a permit (no matter the size of the towing vehicle).

Do people do this often and have you had any issues towing without a permit?

I will only probably put it in newfound, winnisquam, squam and sunapee outside of winnipesaukee maybe a combined total of 5 times a year...

Other general boating forums online seem to give a consensus that they will only really hunt you down if you're over 11 ft or so, but wasn't sure people's experience on here.

My concern with the permit is that you then have certain hours you can and can't tow - for example can't' tow on holidays, tow at night etc. (again, read this in forums, but not sure how accurate it is). Secondly, any idea to the cost f a permit (believe it's annual).

Any and all thoughts welcomed. Thanks!

what if you get in a fender bender with out a permit ? You won't be going anyplace with out licence.

Biggd 05-31-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC19 (Post 279350)
Serious contemplating getting a boat that has a beam of 9' (28 ft bow rider). From what I understand the law only allows you to tow a boat with a beam of 8' 6" without a permit (no matter the size of the towing vehicle).

Do people do this often and have you had any issues towing without a permit?

I will only probably put it in Newfound, Winnisquam, Squam and Sunapee outside of Winnipesaukee maybe a combined total of 5 times a year...

Other general boating forums online seem to give a consensus that they will only really hunt you down if you're over 11 ft or so, but wasn't sure people's experience on here.

My concern with the permit is that you then have certain hours you can and can't tow - for example can't' tow on holidays, tow at night etc. (again, read this in forums, but not sure how accurate it is). Secondly, any idea to the cost f a permit (believe it's annual).

Any and all thoughts welcomed. Thanks!

It's only a problem if you're caught. We could all tell go ahead and do it but as they say "we have no skin in the game". Personally I might risk it if it was once in and once out a season. What you're suggesting is 5 times the risk.

thinkxingu 05-31-2017 01:42 PM

Just get the permit--as someone else mentioned, it's a risk without it.

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brk-lnt 05-31-2017 01:59 PM

Many people tow boats that are technically over-width all the time. Odds are in your favor, but you do run the (slight) risk of a ticket, so beware of that.

Woodsy 05-31-2017 02:00 PM

My advice would be to pull the permit..... or just rent a boat on the other lakes.

If you fail to pull the permit and something bad happens.. your fault or not, you can find yourself in serious trouble and open to liability. I wouldn't want the SP/DOT climbing up my ass for lack of a simple permit. Tow vehicle not rated for the GVW, improper trailer brakes, failure to display proper signage... etc etc

Woodsy

SAB1 05-31-2017 02:21 PM

Agree with Woodsy here. Especially in todays "I'll Sue" world we live in. Get in an accident and a party in the other vehicle is seriously hurt or worse yet dies and I think the DOT could be the least of worries..........

LakeTimes 05-31-2017 03:47 PM

Agree with everyone's comments. I'm always one to buy the insurance as I just don't want to deal with the risk and time needed if something was to happen.

That being said, does anyone have the rules and regulations as to when you can or can't tow a boat? Heard there are parameters like - can't tow on holiday and holiday weekends, etc. etc. etc. Cant' seem to find it anywhere online....

Outdoorsman 05-31-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JC19 (Post 279364)
Agree with everyone's comments. I'm always one to buy the insurance as I just don't want to deal with the risk and time needed if something was to happen.

That being said, does anyone have the rules and regulations as to when you can or can't tow a boat? Heard there are parameters like - can't tow on holiday and holiday weekends, etc. etc. etc. Cant' seem to find it anywhere online....

Specific to the question from the OP
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...266/266-12.htm

And an unofficial page that may help..

http://wideloadshipping.com/new-hamp...g-regulations/

tis 05-31-2017 05:27 PM

What???? Can't tow a boat on holidays or holiday weekends? I think somebody is giving you a hard time.

LakeTimes 05-31-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 279368)
What???? Can't tow a boat on holidays or holiday weekends? I think somebody is giving you a hard time.

I never asked the question - was just doing research. It was called out that the reasoning was because of congested weekends / holidays and they want to minimize 'oversized' loads during peak times. Again, just for boats that require a permit, not a boat that has an 8' 6" beam.

Update: Thanks Outdoorsman for the link. Here it is calling out the times you are allowed and not allowed to tow and weekends / holidays = can't tow:

http://wideloadshipping.com/new-hamp...g-regulations/

Hours or operations and travel restrictions.
Travel times that are permitted by the NH DOT:
Movement of over-dimensional loads shall be restricted to daylight hours. Daylight hours are considered to be the period one-half hour before sunrise and one-half hour after sunset. Permits are void during periods of slippery pavement conditions or inclement weather (e.g. fog, haze, heavy rain, freezing rain, snow) creating hazardous driving conditions. Permits are also void during weekends and the following holidays: New Year’s Day, Martin Luther King Civil Rights Day, Washington’s Birthday, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Day. If a holiday falls on Sunday, the following Monday shall be also restricted as a holiday. If a holiday falls on Saturday, the previous Friday shall restricted as holiday. The permit supervisor shall further restrict movement of over-dimension vehicles as traffic volumes or highway conditions warrant such action in the interest of public safety. Although subject to requirements for permits, vehicles which are overweight only and which are operated at normal traffic speeds shall not be restricted as to time of movement.
Note: Travel through Manchester is restricted during the hours of 7 AM until 9:00 AM and 3:00 AM until 6:00 PM. Toll road requirements are the same as other highways.

Bandrews7 05-31-2017 07:06 PM

I towed mine from Georgia. 8'9" beam. I know it's not over by much but it's still over sized. Because of the tow vehicle, I had to stop in every weigh station from Georgia to NH and not once was it questioned.


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21 LBL 06-01-2017 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 279368)
What???? Can't tow a boat on holidays or holiday weekends? I think somebody is giving you a hard time.

Can't tow oversize (9' beam constitutes oversize) nights/weekends/holidays/ sometimes inclement weather. That is a few of the parameters.

http://www.nh.gov/dot/org/operations...haul/index.htm

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tis 06-01-2017 02:31 PM

Oh sorry. You were talking OVERSIZE. When he said tow a boat, I didn't realize he was still talking about oversize.


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