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Sal 09-12-2014 05:50 PM

Fishing without a license question
 
Assume I'm boating with a friend who wants to fish. He has no license.
I drive the boat. He fishes.

I have no fishing license either.

The fishing cops stop us.

My friend is obviously in violation of the law.

Am I ?

wynndog 09-12-2014 06:07 PM

Isn't the law FISHING W/O A LICENSE?

Happy Gourmand 09-12-2014 07:16 PM

Are you fishing too?

jrc 09-12-2014 09:33 PM

They will watch with binoculars, if you touch the pole you are fishing. Pretty much impossible to fight.

topwater 09-12-2014 09:41 PM

x10 with what jrc said.. They will know the answer to anything they ask you. If they come to your boat..equals.. they have been watching you for the last 15 minutes.

upthesaukee 09-13-2014 02:55 AM

And if you are trolling, you very well may be in violation too, as the operator involved in a fishing operation. First question in my mind was that given the relatively inexpensive cost of a short term license, why are we even having this discussion? Tell your friend "no license, no fishing from my boat. " I doubt you would lose a friend over this, and if you did, then you wouldn't have been losing much of a friend. Oh, and I have told my adult son "no license, no fishing". Good luck with your decision, I hope it is the "right" one.

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Reilly 09-13-2014 04:27 AM

Stupid
 
You can't fix it

chachee52 09-13-2014 07:15 AM

I'd aslo think that as the operator of the boat, you'd be responsable for everyone on your boat obeying the law. Not sure, but one would think.

MeredithMan 09-13-2014 08:17 AM

Tell your friend to buy the darn license, otherwise, if you guys get caught, all the fishing gear will be confiscated, (true), and your boat will be impounded, (don't know, but sounds nice and threatening to someone looking to avoid paying for a fishing license :eek:)

PS: if you friend is under 16, he does not need a license to fish.

SAMIAM 09-13-2014 08:23 AM

We got stopped trolling with two lines in the water......I have a license and my friend didn't.
I showed my license and he didn't question it since I'm allowed two lines

fatlazyless 09-13-2014 08:42 AM

....curiosity?
 
So how much does the fishing violation cost? Anyone know? And, how much does it cost if one gets caught with an unregistered boat......like a ten foot rowboat that now has a little electric trolling motor? What's the price, and does it go onto one's car driving record and effect one's insurance rates?

Just being curious here???

MikeF-NH 09-13-2014 12:02 PM

bottom line is "buy a fishing license". If your friend is fishing off your boat, tell him "I will let it slide this time but next time you are on my boat and want to fish...please have a fishing license or I will ask you not to fish." That is about as polite as it gets. By the way, I think even you starting your motor to move your friend to a different spot to fish would be considered assisting him/her in fishing if a Conservation Officer thought you needed the point to be made more forcefully.

If he/she only wants to fish a day or two all summer...they have 1 and 3 day licenses for about the same money as a days worth of bait.

Rich 09-13-2014 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeredithMan (Post 233290)
PS: if you friend is under 16, he does not need a license to fish.

So if you have a friend with a child (well under 16), and the child wants to fish, but no adult is interested in fishing.

The child catches something and cries for some help. Some adult comes to see what's up and grabs the pole, perhaps the kid hooked the bottom or has a tangle, or perhaps the child even hooks a fish.

Now the adult is fishing without a license and all equipment and boat can be confiscated, fines levied, etc? All because a child wanted a little fun?

I don't fish, so I don't know the laws. Can a child under 16 fish without a license at all times, or only with the supervision of an adult that has his own license?

upthesaukee 09-13-2014 02:12 PM

Here you go...
 
License requirement in NH from the F&G website:

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Lice...quirements.htm

and the fees are:

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Lice...nse_prices.htm

PaugusBayFireFighter 09-13-2014 06:20 PM

No license is a $93. fine. The F&G like to say "consider it a 'donation' to maintaining the lake".

wynndog 09-13-2014 07:53 PM

fishing tales
 
First of all SAL said HE was driving the boat. He never said He was fishing.
Then we go to binoculars?? I suppose Nh Police use them too, waiting for people to leave a bar??
Then you can't help a kid snagged!!
Maybe if the kid falls in and drowns, the NH law requires the undertaker
to pay the fishing fine for you.

wynndog 09-13-2014 08:19 PM

Maybe there should be a VIEW TAX when you use binoculars.
Could the binocs give me a fine because a passenger changed
into a bathing suit in my boat;(indecent exposure)?
I don't remember about the fishing license responsibility being on the
boat owner at my Boating safety class.
I guess the next time someone gives me a car ride anywhere, the DMV
should want me to see their drivers license.

wynndog 09-13-2014 08:27 PM

Thanks for the F&G website, but I can't find the regulation that a person NOT FISHING, can be fined,
but nobody has said Sal did get a fine.

WELL; DID YA SAL?????

ishoot308 09-14-2014 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wynndog (Post 233326)
Thanks for the F&G website, but I can't find the regulation that a person NOT FISHING, can be fined,
but nobody has said Sal did get a fine.

WELL; DID YA SAL?????

If your not fishing you can't be fined, period.

I have also never heard of anyone getting a fine for helping a child fish. Any officer who would give a ticket for that would be a heartless fool. Every fish and game officer I have run into has been courteous, and professional.

Tell your buddy to get a license and enjoy your day without worries..

Dan

Kamper 09-14-2014 10:54 AM

:laugh:


Quote:

Originally Posted by wynndog (Post 233324)
...
Maybe if the kid falls in and drowns, the NH law requires the undertaker
to pay the fishing fine for you.

Imagine see -that- on an itemized bill!

jrc 09-14-2014 05:23 PM

This is where I heard about the F&G watching before ticketing, I thought I remembered binoculars but they actually filmed them.

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ad.php?t=10032

AC2717 09-15-2014 08:02 AM

I was wacked three years ago, because I was stupid and said first day of the year wanted to get out on the lake(stupid move). Myself, and two cousins on the boat, my cousins boat. All three of us were wacked, thy did observe us from a distance, and once all three had lines in the water they came over. It was stupid of us, and I now have the license. We were respectful and they were to, we took our fines, felt stupid and continued the day because they said we could. We also catch and release though, nothing was confiscated and we have nothing on the boat. I am sure they could do that if you had fish in the well, and you were being a jerk, I am sure they could take everything

Sal 09-16-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wynndog (Post 233326)
Thanks for the F&G website, but I can't find the regulation that a person NOT FISHING, can be fined,
but nobody has said Sal did get a fine.

WELL; DID YA SAL?????

No. It really is a hypothetical question and a practical question as well . . .
a friend who likes to fish IS visiting soon. (just before the end of the fishing season)

I didn't mean to provoke, but the question has obviously done so.
Thank you ALL for the responses.

AC2717 09-16-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sal (Post 233409)
No. It really is a hypothetical question and a practical question as well . . .
a friend who likes to fish IS visiting soon. (just before the end of the fishing season)

I didn't mean to provoke, but the question has obviously done so.
Thank you ALL for the responses.

Only the people that have been witnessed with holding a line in the water are deemed to be fishing, if trolling it is the owner of the boat and those operating it

Rusty 09-16-2014 12:21 PM

I have a free permanent NH Combination Hunting & Fishing license. :D

Anyone know why I have that?

HomeWood 09-16-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 233415)
I have a free permanent NH Combination Hunting & Fishing license. :D

Anyone know why I have that?

You're over 68, Ol' timer. ;)

Rusty 09-16-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomeWood (Post 233417)
You're over 68, Ol' timer. ;)

YUP! Hence the forum user name "Rusty". :D

Happy Gourmand 09-16-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 233415)
I have a free permanent NH Combination Hunting & Fishing license. :D

Anyone know why I have that?

I wonder if I could get one if I can dig up an old hunting license from the 60's? :laugh::laugh:

MDoug 09-16-2014 01:32 PM

Fishing license
 
I am 70, have camp on Bear and stay six months each season but am a resident of Georgia. Wonder if I qualify for free permanent license.

upthesaukee 09-16-2014 08:39 PM

Sorry MDoug...NH residents only.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoug (Post 233421)
I am 70, have camp on Bear and stay six months each season but am a resident of Georgia. Wonder if I qualify for free permanent license.

From the NH F& G website:

Over Age 68 Permanent License are issued free to residents of New Hampshire who are 68 years of age or older. This permanent license is not available online or at Wal Mart, but can be obtained at traditional license agents throughout the state. Over-age-68 permanent license applicants must be a New Hampshire resident for at least 2 years before application and present a valid New Hampshire drivers license or state-issued non-drivers photo identification card. The following permanent license types are available for over-age-68 applicants: Combination Hunting & Fishing, Fishing only, Muzzleloader, Archery, Clam and Oyster. To qualify for the hunting or archery licenses, one of the following must be presented: a previously held hunting license or hunter education card; a previously held archery license or bow education card, issued from any U.S. state or Canadian province. Since the issued license is permanent, over-age-68 license holders must create their own deer tags or they may use the generic tag in the back of the hunting digest. Any other license types not listed above would have to be purchased annually. The Over-Age-68 Permanent License is not valid if the license holder moves out of state. The Over-Age-68 Permanent License does not include Saltwater Fishing.

Treerider 09-27-2014 07:09 AM

I have fished winni (all over the world too) for nearly 50 years, I have never been cited for any infraction, nor have I ever broken any fish and game laws and have never stolen any of the "kings fish" but I am tired of being treated as GUILTY by the green jackets that check us every yr. generally while ice fishing! I will never give them the time of day !
Several years ago while standing on the ice during derby weekend four or five green jackets screamed up to our bob-house on sno mobiles as we stood around, they asked if we had caught any then got around to asking for fishing licenses, my buddy had on a jumpsuit and had big handful of peanuts in the shell in his hand, he struggled with the zipper and handed the co the p nuts while he fished out his license, while all were watching he stopped and said with a grin how he'd have a good story on Monday morning about how the game warden had his nuts in his hand over the weekend!
Even the other green jackets had a rare smile on their faces as we fell down laughing!


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